Riddles in the Downs

[Urwen]

And that fits Turin better than anyone else.


Oh wait, I see.....It's not Turin, it's someone killed by Turin.

[Huinesoron]

It's nothing to do with Turin, I'm afraid. At least an Age off, if not more.

hS

[Urwen]

But there are no people nicknamed Wolf in Second or Third or Fourth age.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

But there are no people nicknamed Wolf in Second or Third or Fourth age.

I'm afraid you are wrong about that.

Well, not nicknamed. But I doubt they nicknamed Pharazon 'Gold' either (though the idea of Team Elendil using it as a codename for him amuses me now).

hS

[Urwen]

The closest I can get is Narmacil, from Narmo.

[Galadriel55]

Are you looking for Wulf, who attacked Rohan during the time of Helm Hammerhand? He had ambitions of marrying Helm's daughter and apparently had some connection to the royal line. Of course he was denied, returned with an army and stayed the winter. Both Helm's sons were killed in that war, though I'm not sure how that relates to avenging.

[Urwen]

If Galadriel55 is correct, then I think the riddle answer is 'Usurper'. In which case, the Bejewelled is Castamir, further corroborated that his name ends with elvish word for 'jewel'.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Are you looking for Wulf, who attacked Rohan during the time of Helm Hammerhand? He had ambitions of marrying Helm's daughter and apparently had some connection to the royal line. Of course he was denied, returned with an army and stayed the winter. Both Helm's sons were killed in that war, though I'm not sure how that relates to avenging.

Correct. Helm actually had Wulf's father killed, 4 years prior to his invasion. And, yes, slight mistake: Wulf was assassinated by an avenging nephew (on a stealth mission, no less). But he was still a Son of Rohan, I guess?

Originally Posted by Urwen

If Galadriel55 is correct, then I think the riddle answer is 'Usurper'. In which case, the Bejewelled is Castamir, further corroborated that his name ends with elvish word for 'jewel'.

Spot on! Castamir was Captain of Ships, hence the 'deck' thing. His name is a bit of a pain, since 'casta' isn't an attested element (the wikis suggest 'cassa', helm), but yes, that was the Bejewelled element.

The first Usurper I found didn't actually make it into the riddle: Herucalmo, husband of Tar-Vanimelde, who siezed the sceptre in his own right and reigned as Tar-Anducal for 20 years.

Well done all round, and over to Urwen!

hS