Riddles in the Downs

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Ohh, so "we" is Faramir and Turin Turambar? I was confused about what tied the characters together. They actually do share a lot of character names among related people. That's a very clever observation and riddle!

Thanks- it's really more about descriptors than names, actually, though I couldn't pass up Finduilas and the House of Húrin.

Now, as to the new riddle, I confess to not having any clear ideas yet.

These lines-

And now I realise, that at that moment
I should've done as they had asked

I'm no hero
No songs will be sung about me or mine

I am the one who started it all

and

For I've given up everything
So I could have this one thing

feel like they should hold the key to it.

I wonder is the speaker "no hero" because of obscurity, or infamy?

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Thanks- it's really more about descriptors than names, actually, though I couldn't pass up Finduilas and the House of Húrin.

Now, as to the new riddle, I confess to not having any clear ideas yet.

These lines-

And now I realise, that at that moment
I should've done as they had asked

I'm no hero
No songs will be sung about me or mine

I am the one who started it all

and

For I've given up everything
So I could have this one thing

feel like they should hold the key to it.

I wonder is the speaker "no hero" because of obscurity, or infamy?

You're correct. Those lines are the key.



(The speaker could be 'infamous', but I guess it depends on your points of view)

[Nerwen]

And the first two lines refer to a specific point in time ("that moment") when the speaker made a presumably fateful bad decision?

[Galadriel55]

Knowing your love for First Age characters, I wanna guess Maeglin.

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

And the first two lines refer to a specific point in time ("that moment") when the speaker made a presumably fateful bad decision?

Yup

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Knowing your love for First Age characters, I wanna guess Maeglin.

I already used him as the riddle answer recently. I won't do it again while he is still fresh in people's memories.

[Urwen]

It just occurred to me that this line could be slightly misleading.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

So I could have this one thing

[Galadriel55]

Cersei Lannister, as we all would like to see her end up.


Actually though, Feanor? Though can't say he's that "unsung" and infamous - his name is still honoured. But he did start preeety much the history of ME as we know it, and especially the First Age shenanigans. If he'd only listened and given the Silmarils over, and not followed Morgoth to Beleriand to get them back...

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Cersei Lannister, as we all would like to see her end up.


Actually though, Feanor? Though can't say he's that "unsung" and infamous - his name is still honoured. But he did start preeety much the history of ME as we know it, and especially the First Age shenanigans. If he'd only listened and given the Silmarils over, and not followed Morgoth to Beleriand to get them back...

Well, you're not wrong.....


And there were quite a number of people who hated him, I believe.



(And I did say that 'infamous' part would depend on your points of view.

[Urwen]

And he did do some morally questionable stuff.


Then again, maybe I should've worded it differently....

[Galadriel55]

Sooo... is that a yes or a no? Or a not quite there?

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Sooo... is that a yes or a no? Or a not quite there?

Well, that's who I had in mind, so unless I changed my mind/was replaced by an impostor, it's a yes.