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Urwen · 05-02-2019, 08:18 AM

Gurthang then?

Nerwen · 05-02-2019, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Gurthang then?

If it were "Gurthang" I'd have accepted "Anglachel" as the answer.

Again, though, Anglachel/Gurthang is referenced, but is not the "speaker"- which is a little more obscure.

The whole thing is basically talking about a brief incident taking place at a specific point in time- so think about the meaning of future whisper. Or you could try working out who "he" and "you" might be.

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 02:16 AM

So Anglachel is referenced?

How about Nan Elmoth then? It betrayed Aredhel, and it's where Anglachel was made.

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 02:42 AM

Am at least right in thinking that 'he' is Thingol and 'you' is Beleg?

Nerwen · 05-03-2019, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

So Anglachel is referenced?

How about Nan Elmoth then? It betrayed Aredhel, and it's where Anglachel was made.

Not Nan Elmoth.

You're looking for an instance of [somebody] warning [somebody else] that "I" [not actually a person] can't be trusted. (You quoted similar advice about Anglachel itself).

Edit: missed your last post.

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Am at least right in thinking that 'he' is Thingol and 'you' is Beleg?

No... and that's the key to it. There is a passage where somebody is warned about "me" in much the same terms.

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 03:54 AM

So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really.

It's a first age thing, right?

Nerwen · 05-03-2019, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really.

It's a first age thing, right?

Yes. But Anglachel is involved and is really referenced. That is, part of the riddle is talking about it directly- but it isn't the answer.

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 04:09 AM

So the warning happens around the same time?

05-02-2019, 08:18 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Gurthang then? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-03-2019, 02:16 AM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So Anglachel is referenced? How about Nan Elmoth then? It betrayed Aredhel, and it's where Anglachel was made. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-03-2019 at 03:09 AM.

05-03-2019, 02:42 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Am at least right in thinking that 'he' is Thingol and 'you' is Beleg? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-03-2019, 03:54 AM	#6
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really. It's a first age thing, right? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-03-2019, 04:09 AM	#8
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So the warning happens around the same time? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.