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Urwen · 05-07-2019, 02:09 PM

If it's not Pippin, then it must be Frodo, who revealed himself by putting on the Ring.

Galadriel55 · 05-07-2019, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

If it's not Pippin, then it must be Frodo, who revealed himself by putting on the Ring.

It's not Frodo.

Also, read my responses carefully, as I think you might be misinterpreting them and veering off track again.

Urwen · 05-07-2019, 02:51 PM

Wait, when you said I got one of the characters right, you meant Pippin rather than Gandalf, in which case, the bridge isn't one in Moria?

Urwen · 05-07-2019, 03:01 PM

Maybe Aragorn, who lead them across the bridge, and Pippin, who revealed them to the enemy.....

Galadriel55 · 05-07-2019, 03:13 PM

You have correctly identified Pippin in Moria as one of the characters/events, though you haven't quite tied in all the bits together (btw, do you know which one, "I" or "you"? This may help you find the second one).

Remember that the second person is also a fool of sorts, and I don't think Aragorn could be called that, definitely not in the Bridge of Khazad-dum passages you refer to.

Urwen · 05-07-2019, 03:26 PM

I think Pippin is 'I', because there is no mention of him revealing a bridge.

Unless you mean that his actions prompted Gandalf to hurry and reach the bridge, in which case, he would be 'you'.

Which further proves my theory that it could be Denethor, who tried to burn his own son alive.....

Galadriel55 · 05-07-2019, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

I think Pippin is 'I', because there is no mention of him revealing a bridge.

Umm... read the riddle carefully. You're confusing who does what. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but "I" is the one linked with revealing a bridge.

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The Elven-Brooch comes to mind, but that still points to Aragorn, for he picked it up.

Ditto. You're doing the right thing, thinking of incidences where "you" and "I" could interact in a "taking the shot from where it fell". But first figure out which end of the interaction Pippin is on, which goes back to the above part.

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Or it could be Denethor, who tried to burn his own son alive.....

I am a little confused by where this came from, but it's not the answer.

Galadriel55 · 05-07-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

I think Pippin is 'I', because there is no mention of him revealing a bridge.

Unless you mean that his actions prompted Gandalf to hurry and reach the bridge, in which case, he would be 'you'.

Which further proves my theory that it could be Denethor, who tried to burn his own son alive.....

Just saw this edited version. Still confused about why you think Denethor. Still urge you to read the riddle carefully and map out what you know about "you" and "I", cause you seem to be jumping between them within the first statement.

Let's see if you can trace the second person back from what you already know. It might help you to get the exact details that are relevant to Pippin's part in the story (e.g. what is his shot? What was revealed?); once you have that straight it will be easier to place him into a I/you role, and thus make it easier to solve the remaining one.

Galadriel55 · 05-07-2019, 03:38 PM

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I edited my post to include this:

Better?

See above, I replied to your edit.

Still not hitting the answer, and I'm not sure how you conclude Denethor from that so I can't comment on your thought process there.

05-07-2019, 02:09 PM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	If it's not Pippin, then it must be Frodo, who revealed himself by putting on the Ring. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-07-2019, 02:51 PM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Wait, when you said I got one of the characters right, you meant Pippin rather than Gandalf, in which case, the bridge isn't one in Moria? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-07-2019, 03:01 PM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Maybe Aragorn, who lead them across the bridge, and Pippin, who revealed them to the enemy..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-07-2019, 03:13 PM	#5
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,515	You have correctly identified Pippin in Moria as one of the characters/events, though you haven't quite tied in all the bits together (btw, do you know which one, "I" or "you"? This may help you find the second one). Remember that the second person is also a fool of sorts, and I don't think Aragorn could be called that, definitely not in the Bridge of Khazad-dum passages you refer to. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-07-2019, 03:26 PM	#6
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I think Pippin is 'I', because there is no mention of him revealing a bridge. Unless you mean that his actions prompted Gandalf to hurry and reach the bridge, in which case, he would be 'you'. Which further proves my theory that it could be Denethor, who tried to burn his own son alive..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-07-2019 at 03:29 PM.