Riddles in the Downs

[Galadriel55]

You have correctly identified Pippin in Moria as one of the characters/events, though you haven't quite tied in all the bits together (btw, do you know which one, "I" or "you"? This may help you find the second one).

Remember that the second person is also a fool of sorts, and I don't think Aragorn could be called that, definitely not in the Bridge of Khazad-dum passages you refer to.

[Urwen]

I think Pippin is 'I', because there is no mention of him revealing a bridge.

Unless you mean that his actions prompted Gandalf to hurry and reach the bridge, in which case, he would be 'you'.

Which further proves my theory that it could be Denethor, who tried to burn his own son alive.....

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I think Pippin is 'I', because there is no mention of him revealing a bridge.

Umm... read the riddle carefully. You're confusing who does what. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but "I" is the one linked with revealing a bridge.

Originally Posted by Urwen

The Elven-Brooch comes to mind, but that still points to Aragorn, for he picked it up.

Ditto. You're doing the right thing, thinking of incidences where "you" and "I" could interact in a "taking the shot from where it fell". But first figure out which end of the interaction Pippin is on, which goes back to the above part.

Originally Posted by Urwen

Or it could be Denethor, who tried to burn his own son alive.....

I am a little confused by where this came from, but it's not the answer.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I think Pippin is 'I', because there is no mention of him revealing a bridge.

Unless you mean that his actions prompted Gandalf to hurry and reach the bridge, in which case, he would be 'you'.

Which further proves my theory that it could be Denethor, who tried to burn his own son alive.....

Just saw this edited version. Still confused about why you think Denethor. Still urge you to read the riddle carefully and map out what you know about "you" and "I", cause you seem to be jumping between them within the first statement.

Let's see if you can trace the second person back from what you already know. It might help you to get the exact details that are relevant to Pippin's part in the story (e.g. what is his shot? What was revealed?); once you have that straight it will be easier to place him into a I/you role, and thus make it easier to solve the remaining one.

[Urwen]

Well, if Pippin is I, then he revealed the bridge. But who did he meet that revealed themselves to the enemy.

Then again, if I am right......

Well, one of your hints said that it wasn't Aragorn during the Moria scene. You never said it isn't Aragorn, period. Therefore, it could be that 'you' is Aragorn, who revealed himself to Sauron.

If Pippin is 'you', then he revealed the Fellowship's location to the enemy, but that still leaves the problem of who revealed the bridge.....

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Well, if Pippin is I, then he revealed the bridge. But who did he meet that revealed themselves to the enemy.

Then again, if I am right......

Well, one of your hints said that it wasn't Aragorn during the Moria scene. You never said it isn't Aragorn, period. Therefore, it could be that 'you' is Aragorn, who revealed himself to Sauron.

If Pippin is 'you', then he revealed the Fellowship's location to the enemy, but that still leaves the problem of who revealed the bridge.....

You're thinking the right way, just not the right events. Some points to help your thinking:
1. It's not Aragorn, period. (but that's a great example that I haven't thought of! Kudos for coming up with that!)
2. As far as I am concerned, Pippin did not reveal the bridge of Moria. So don't use that point to determine his role and connection.
3. You did allude to something else related to Pippin that will be more useful to you.

[Urwen]

So then, the 'I' character is connected to the Elven brooch. And the only characters connected to it are Galadriel, Merry, and the Three Hunters.

You also said that the other characters is considered a 'fool' of sorts, and Merry revealed the existence of Brandywine bridge.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

So then, the 'I' character is connected to the Elven brooch. And the only characters connected to it are Galadriel, Merry, and the Three Hunters.

That's not the post I was thinking of. Read back to what you posted before. You did not name the event outright but you alluded to it.

Originally Posted by Urwen

You also said that the other characters is considered a 'fool' of sorts, and Merry revealed the existence of Brandywine bridge.

Well, Merry did some foolish things, but his foolishness is not connected to the Brandywine Bridge.

I was holding off on saying this, thinking that you'd figure it out, but I think you deserve this for your efforts. Don't fixate on the bridge. You won't be able to name it even if you search the maps for all the bridges. It will become clear when you match the right people and events, but you will not be able to find it by elimination. So, I guess my suggestion is, don't work forward from the bridge; look through your Pippin posts and work forward from him, and the bridge detail will fall in place last.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I edited my post to include this:

Better?

See above, I replied to your edit.

Still not hitting the answer, and I'm not sure how you conclude Denethor from that so I can't comment on your thought process there.