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Urwen · 05-14-2019, 10:34 AM

Could the password be ERENDIS

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 10:39 AM

No to Aredhel.

No to the theme. (That would be VERY broad!)

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 10:41 AM

No to Erendis.

MENELDUR: Repair and reign through turmoil, he does. Move along one.
2. Back number thirteen. Initially lose trust, but replace with direction. See her!
3. She reforms one long-serving prisoner.
4. A dwarf sickens, but is restored by her.
5. No ease of the womb, we hear. At sixes and sevens, he is.
6. He arranged a note of complaint.
7. Was she heard to mock or gloat at the time?

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 10:41 AM

No comment regarding this?

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Originally Posted by Urwen

There is only one Meneldur, the King of Numenor, though. There are no other people who bore that name.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 10:43 AM

Well, let's see. Since Meneldur is the only individual with that name, and he is connected to Numenor, and you said the theme has nothing to do with Numenor, and that he named himself after the sky, something tells me that the theme is individuals named after celestial objects.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 10:44 AM

I have already commented on it! It is not names only used once.

Try guessing some more clues!

EDIT: And no, not people named after celestial objects.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I have already commented on it! It is not names only used once.

Try guessing some more clues!

Okay, but my confusion stems from the fact that the theme has nothing to do with Numenor, since there is only one Meneldur, and he is connected to Numenor.....

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 10:47 AM

But guessing themes is really a thing to do when you have a few answers and can see connections, isn't it? I think it's more fun that way, anyhow.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 10:52 AM

Notes: A B C D E F G

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 10:55 AM

I'm thinking that for 2, we need to reverse number thirteen.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 11:03 AM

I had actually forgotten how that clue worked, because of being unable to access my pre-written passwords for a while and having to write new ones. But I thought for a while and then remembered.

It isn't by reversing thirteen.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 11:13 AM

Do we need to find another word for back and for thirteen? I found only one synonym for thirteen, and it's 'long dozen'. And the only names containing Z are those adunaic names, like Zimraphel. Except that the puzzle has no Numenorean connection.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 11:17 AM

No word for back needed, and not a synonym of thirteen.

Don't want to give this away just yet - try another clue, perhaps?

EDIT … or … try the second part of the clue first.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 11:20 AM

Initially lose trust means LT. If we replace that with direction, we get LD.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 11:24 AM

Elfhild? (ELHI + F + LD)

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 11:27 AM

And I would try another clue, but all of them are just as confusing as this one, except for the Meneldur clue.

And there just happens to be a Feanor-centric storytelling masterpiece that I'm rather engrossed in, so I think I will lurk about for a while and let others try.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 11:42 AM

Sure, no problem. Once one or two more are guessed, the rest will probably tumble.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 11:56 AM

So my Elfhild guess is not correct, I take it. Does the name still end with LD?

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 12:20 PM

Not LD and not Elfhild.

Not trust, but a synonym of it.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 12:25 PM

But it also says 'initially' which implies an acronym.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 12:25 PM

Also, where is everyone else?

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 01:02 PM

BELIEF as synonym for TRUST

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 01:03 PM

or FAITH?

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 01:05 PM

Also, no one else is willing to try despite the fact that I apologized in public, and having more people participating makes it more enjoyable. *makes frustrated noises*

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 01:47 PM

One of those is correct.

Maybe they just aren't around. The thread is often quiet for a while. It once stopped entirely for a whole year!

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 01:58 PM

That means that FAITH loses T, but gains D for direction.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 02:18 PM

Faith is right. The direction is not.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 02:27 PM

13 looks like LE when transmuted to letters. First letter of faith is F. First letters of four directions are N, S, E, and W. The trouble is combining these into something coherent.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 02:44 PM

Firiel

F - Faith
IE - 13 transmuted into letters
R - direction
IL - For 'Initially lost'

If you move those letters around, they spell FIRIEL

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 02:48 PM

4 is Gilmith (from GIMLI)

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 02:54 PM

And these make me think that these are all connected to people of Gondor, for Lords of Andunie were descendants of Silmarien, Meneldur's sister. And in turn, Gondorian Kings were descended from Lords of Andunie.

This means that Silmarien must be an answer to one of the clues.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 03:49 PM

2 is not Firiel. 4 is not Gilmith.

Not lords of Andunie.

13 is not LE.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 04:02 PM

Then I give up.

I can't think of anything else.

These last few passwords (with exceptions of my own) are too tough for me....sorry.....

(Unless you provide some small clues, that is)

P.S: Clues are supposed to be simple and help us solve it, not confound us further. At least that's what I believe.....

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 04:05 PM

There are too many things that fit and yet don't fit, and too many synonyms to pursue a clear line of thinking.

Can you at least tell me what 'number thirteen' means?

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 04:15 PM

But your plant fibre clue was horrendously difficult! And I couldn't solve William's last puzzle at all!

Let's see if Huey or William can work out what 13 means.

I don't want to give the answers away until others have had a chance. Otherwise there's no point in writing challenging clues.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 04:22 PM

I'm sure the others are just busy, or away for a day or two. That's one reason I don't post much in Books. I haven't time to respond in depth to the discussions. Solving individual clues takes far less time and I enjoy it anyway, and I can generally write a set of clues quickly once I get an idea.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 04:23 PM

Fine, then I will make super challenging clues when my next turn comes, and I will give no help whatsoever to any of you. Treat others how you want to be treated and all that.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I'm sure the others are just busy, or away for a day or two. That's one reason I don't post much in Books. I haven't time to respond in depth to the discussions. Solving individuals clues takes far less time and I enjoy it anyway, and I can generally write a set of clues quickly once I get an idea.

No, they are not. At least three puzzles have come and gone, and only William, me and you were around to solve them. Huinesoron and G55 have gone MIA, so I won't expect them to chime in if I were you.

Pervinca Took · 05-14-2019, 04:26 PM

Be fair. Let the others at least have a go, then I will give further help.

Urwen · 05-14-2019, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Be fair. Let the others at least have a go, then I will give further help.

It would be at least a year before Huinesoron/G55 decide to 'have a go'. What are we supposed to in the meantime? I mean, there is only so much William and I could do.....

05-14-2019, 10:34 AM	#5801
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Could the password be ERENDIS __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 10:39 AM	#5802
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No to Aredhel. No to the theme. (That would be VERY broad!) __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 10:41 AM	#5803
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No to Erendis. MENELDUR: Repair and reign through turmoil, he does. Move along one. 2. Back number thirteen. Initially lose trust, but replace with direction. See her! 3. She reforms one long-serving prisoner. 4. A dwarf sickens, but is restored by her. 5. No ease of the womb, we hear. At sixes and sevens, he is. 6. He arranged a note of complaint. 7. Was she heard to mock or gloat at the time? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 10:43 AM	#5805
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Well, let's see. Since Meneldur is the only individual with that name, and he is connected to Numenor, and you said the theme has nothing to do with Numenor, and that he named himself after the sky, something tells me that the theme is individuals named after celestial objects. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 10:44 AM	#5806
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I have already commented on it! It is not names only used once. Try guessing some more clues! EDIT: And no, not people named after celestial objects. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 10:47 AM	#5808
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	But guessing themes is really a thing to do when you have a few answers and can see connections, isn't it? I think it's more fun that way, anyhow. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 10:52 AM	#5809
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Notes: A B C D E F G __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 10:55 AM	#5810
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I'm thinking that for 2, we need to reverse number thirteen. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 11:03 AM	#5811
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I had actually forgotten how that clue worked, because of being unable to access my pre-written passwords for a while and having to write new ones. But I thought for a while and then remembered. It isn't by reversing thirteen. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 11:13 AM	#5812
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Do we need to find another word for back and for thirteen? I found only one synonym for thirteen, and it's 'long dozen'. And the only names containing Z are those adunaic names, like Zimraphel. Except that the puzzle has no Numenorean connection. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 11:17 AM	#5813
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No word for back needed, and not a synonym of thirteen. Don't want to give this away just yet - try another clue, perhaps? EDIT … or … try the second part of the clue first. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 11:20 AM	#5814
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Initially lose trust means LT. If we replace that with direction, we get LD. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 11:24 AM	#5815
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Elfhild? (ELHI + F + LD) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 11:27 AM	#5816
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	And I would try another clue, but all of them are just as confusing as this one, except for the Meneldur clue. And there just happens to be a Feanor-centric storytelling masterpiece that I'm rather engrossed in, so I think I will lurk about for a while and let others try. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-14-2019 at 11:31 AM.

05-14-2019, 11:42 AM	#5817
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Sure, no problem. Once one or two more are guessed, the rest will probably tumble. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 11:56 AM	#5818
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So my Elfhild guess is not correct, I take it. Does the name still end with LD? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 12:20 PM	#5819
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Not LD and not Elfhild. Not trust, but a synonym of it. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 12:25 PM	#5820
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	But it also says 'initially' which implies an acronym. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 12:25 PM	#5821
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Also, where is everyone else? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 01:02 PM	#5822
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	BELIEF as synonym for TRUST __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 01:03 PM	#5823
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	or FAITH? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 01:05 PM	#5824
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Also, no one else is willing to try despite the fact that I apologized in public, and having more people participating makes it more enjoyable. makes frustrated noises __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 01:47 PM	#5825
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	One of those is correct. Maybe they just aren't around. The thread is often quiet for a while. It once stopped entirely for a whole year! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 01:58 PM	#5826
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	That means that FAITH loses T, but gains D for direction. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 02:18 PM	#5827
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Faith is right. The direction is not. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 02:27 PM	#5828
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	13 looks like LE when transmuted to letters. First letter of faith is F. First letters of four directions are N, S, E, and W. The trouble is combining these into something coherent. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-14-2019 at 02:40 PM.

05-14-2019, 02:44 PM	#5829
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Firiel F - Faith IE - 13 transmuted into letters R - direction IL - For 'Initially lost' If you move those letters around, they spell FIRIEL __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 02:48 PM	#5830
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	4 is Gilmith (from GIMLI) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 02:54 PM	#5831
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	And these make me think that these are all connected to people of Gondor, for Lords of Andunie were descendants of Silmarien, Meneldur's sister. And in turn, Gondorian Kings were descended from Lords of Andunie. This means that Silmarien must be an answer to one of the clues. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 03:49 PM	#5832
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	2 is not Firiel. 4 is not Gilmith. Not lords of Andunie. 13 is not LE. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 04:02 PM	#5833
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Then I give up. I can't think of anything else. These last few passwords (with exceptions of my own) are too tough for me....sorry..... (Unless you provide some small clues, that is) P.S: Clues are supposed to be simple and help us solve it, not confound us further. At least that's what I believe..... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 04:05 PM	#5834
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	There are too many things that fit and yet don't fit, and too many synonyms to pursue a clear line of thinking. Can you at least tell me what 'number thirteen' means? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-14-2019, 04:15 PM	#5835
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	But your plant fibre clue was horrendously difficult! And I couldn't solve William's last puzzle at all! Let's see if Huey or William can work out what 13 means. I don't want to give the answers away until others have had a chance. Otherwise there's no point in writing challenging clues. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 04:22 PM	#5836
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I'm sure the others are just busy, or away for a day or two. That's one reason I don't post much in Books. I haven't time to respond in depth to the discussions. Solving individual clues takes far less time and I enjoy it anyway, and I can generally write a set of clues quickly once I get an idea. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

05-14-2019, 04:23 PM	#5837
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Fine, then I will make super challenging clues when my next turn comes, and I will give no help whatsoever to any of you. Treat others how you want to be treated and all that. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.