One Thing in Common - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Huinesoron · 06-11-2019, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Fastred of Greenholm
Lily Brown
Bell Goodchild

... and no other named characters.

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Originally Posted by Urwen

They were all mentioned in Red Book of Westmarch?

hS

Urwen · 06-11-2019, 08:41 AM

And this document was written by Sam?

Huinesoron · 06-11-2019, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

And this document was written by Sam?

Er. Hmm.

Okay, apparently the answer is no; it (in its final form) postdates him. (And no, I don't mean 'by several thousand years because it was written by Tolkien'

)

The answer is in two parts: "They all appear in _____, and have ______."

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-13-2019, 06:34 AM

I wonder if this is something to do with founding a new surname, or bringing people into the world who do. (Fairbairn, Gardner). But I can't make it work. The same would be true of the Gaffer and Tolman Cotton.

Ah ... missed the clue.

They all appear in the Appendix of Family Trees

and

...

They all marry a descendant of someone? Someone high up the Gamwich tree?

...

No. Faramir Took does that as well.

Huinesoron · 06-13-2019, 07:10 AM

So what is the difference between these three and Faramir Took?

hS

Pervinca Took · 06-13-2019, 10:12 AM

I don't know. I think only the 10 day rule can save us on this one.

Goodchild was a surname JRRT considered for Sam.

Did he consider Brown and Fairbairn as surnames for different or more important characters as well?

Huinesoron · 06-14-2019, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

I don't know. I think only the 10 day rule can save us on this one.

I mean, if you feel like ignoring the thread for a week and a half, um... feel free? It's not actually that hard, though. There's a very specific, named document in which all three appear - which is their only appearance - and what they have in common is what visibly distinguishes them from the other people in that document.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Goodchild was a surname JRRT considered for Sam.

Did he consider Brown and Fairbairn as surnames for different or more important characters as well?

Not so far as I know.

hS

06-11-2019, 08:41 AM	#2
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	And this document was written by Sam? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-13-2019, 06:34 AM	#4
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I wonder if this is something to do with founding a new surname, or bringing people into the world who do. (Fairbairn, Gardner). But I can't make it work. The same would be true of the Gaffer and Tolman Cotton. Ah ... missed the clue. They all appear in the Appendix of Family Trees and ... They all marry a descendant of someone? Someone high up the Gamwich tree? ... No. Faramir Took does that as well. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-13-2019 at 06:47 AM.

06-13-2019, 10:12 AM	#6
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I don't know. I think only the 10 day rule can save us on this one. Goodchild was a surname JRRT considered for Sam. Did he consider Brown and Fairbairn as surnames for different or more important characters as well? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 06-13-2019 at 10:23 AM.

06-13-2019, 07:10 AM	#5
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,957	So what is the difference between these three and Faramir Took? hS