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Urwen · 07-12-2019, 03:56 AM

GOTHMOG: A dizzy insect within a palindrome? He is there.
??U??: A chaotical month surrounds a brief country, for her.
??R??: A confused gang-member reveals him.
TAR-MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a measuring unit, after a rodent. See her!
??N??: A disoriented country and returning musical symbol reveal him.

No, not Barding. There is a different synonym for a gang-member.

(Also, 2 and 3 are connected by more than just the theme.

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Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 03:59 AM

Is the gang-member simply Turin, because he was one?

Urwen · 07-12-2019, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Is the gang-member simply Turin, because he was one?

Nope. I gave you a big hint.

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 05:39 AM

DROGO, from DROOG? (Good job I like 'A Clockwork Orange!')

PRIMULA ... Yes, that has APRIL surrounding ... MU. Can't think offhand of a country that starts that way, but ....

Urwen · 07-12-2019, 06:03 AM

It's a country abbreviation for Mauritius.

Urwen · 07-12-2019, 06:08 AM

GOTHMOG: A dizzy insect within a palindrome? He is there.
PRIMULA: A chaotical month surrounds a brief country, for her.
DROGO: A confused gang-member reveals him.
TAR-MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a measuring unit, after a rodent. See her!
??N??: A disoriented country and returning musical symbol reveal him.

Can you guess the theme?

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 06:27 AM

Three are connected to water and one to fire, but I don't recall Hurin being connected to either. Unless he was in the Battle of Sudden Flame.

Urwen · 07-12-2019, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Three are connected to water and one to fire, but I don't recall Hurin being connected to either. Unless he was in the Battle of Sudden Flame.

Wrong, it has to do with manner of their deaths.

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 07:43 AM

OK. They all drowned.

I hadn't realised that Hurin and Gothmog drowned.

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 08:04 AM

I wonder if 'returning' means in the sense of being a palindrome, and the musical symbol is 'minim.'

Urwen · 07-12-2019, 09:42 AM

Nope. The musical symbol is something we used in our clues frequently.

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 12:40 PM

AMANDIL did not return. I guess he either drowned or died of thirst or starvation.

A LAND MI.

Urwen · 07-12-2019, 01:10 PM

Nope. Think! Which musical symbol do we frequently use in clues in this thread?

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 01:34 PM

Well ... notes.

Not clefs or keys or flats or sharps, as I recall.

Urwen · 07-12-2019, 02:36 PM

Exactly. You know this, so use it.

Pervinca Took · 07-12-2019, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Exactly. You know this, so use it.

I did. MI is a note. I used it in Amandil.

GORLIM has MI returning. GORL sounds like GAUL, an old name for France.

Yes, I know it's not right. He is cruelly put to death, but we are not told how.

But the only other two named males I can think of who drowned are AMROTH (no N) and AR-PHARAZON. Hang on. He has ROHAN for a country. Is ZAP musical, though?

Huinesoron · 07-13-2019, 12:32 AM

I think it might be the actual word NOTE. The clue suggests it's backwards rather than scrambled; are there any names ending with ETON?

(Isildur also drowned, but that's not much help. Arguably so did Deagol, but again...)

hS

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

I think it might be the actual word NOTE. The clue suggests it's backwards rather than scrambled; are there any names ending with ETON?

(Isildur also drowned, but that's not much help. Arguably so did Deagol, but again...)

hS

I thought of Isildur, but I thought the orc-arrows were what killed him. And of Deagol, but the culprits there were Gollum's fingers.

Does anyone drown in any of the poems or smaller/non-M-e works?

People who dare to knock on the door of the Mewlips 'sink into the slime,' but that doesn't of itself guarantee full drowning.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 04:06 AM

Here is one hint that would make it easy: 5 is 1's killer.

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 04:42 AM

Ecthelion.

Note + Chile.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 04:44 AM

GOTHMOG: A dizzy insect within a palindrome? He is there.
PRIMULA: A chaotical month surrounds a brief country, for her.
DROGO: A confused gang-member reveals him.
TAR-MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a measuring unit, after a rodent. See her!
ECTHELION: A disoriented country and returning musical symbol reveal him.

THEME: Characters who died by drowning

Over to Pervinca!

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 05:07 AM

Here we are, then:

1. ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking).
2. He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds.
3. He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially).
4. For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony.
5. French king returns – hear a word of praise for him!

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 05:12 AM

3. Underhill?

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 05:20 AM

Give me more.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 05:29 AM

Mister (sounds like 'missed her') Underhill (already explained)

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 05:50 AM

1. ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking).
2. He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds.
MR UNDERHILL: He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially).
4. For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony.
5. French king returns – hear a word of praise for him!

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 06:07 AM

Is the theme nicknames?

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 06:25 AM

No. More specific than that.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 06:28 AM

Oh, I see.

5. Iorhael (Roi backwards + Hael, which sounds like hail)

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 06:31 AM

1. ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking).
2. He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds.
MR UNDERHILL: He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially).
4. For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony.
IORHAEL: French king returns – hear a word of praise for him!

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 06:33 AM

4. Daur, from 'dour'.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 06:34 AM

And the password: Maura.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 06:37 AM

1. Master, though I don't see how ster=lettuce-draining equipment

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 07:08 AM

???M???: ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking).
DAUR: He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds.
MR UNDERHILL: He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially).
???R???: For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony.
IORHAEL: French king returns – hear a word of praise for him!

PASSWORD: MAURA
THEME: FRODO

Not master. What do you drain lettuce or boiled veg in?

Also, you need an expression of surprise for the 'Goodness me!' to begin it with ... although 'Ma' is actually right for the 'my' bit.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 07:14 AM

Colander?

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 07:16 AM

Yes. Now put them together.

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 07:17 AM

Macolander?

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 07:18 AM

Something needed on the front.

What is Frodo known for?

Urwen · 07-13-2019, 07:28 AM

Quest of the Ring?

Pervinca Took · 07-13-2019, 07:30 AM

Yes, but what as?

07-12-2019, 03:56 AM	#7441
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	GOTHMOG: A dizzy insect within a palindrome? He is there. ??U??: A chaotical month surrounds a brief country, for her. ??R??: A confused gang-member reveals him. TAR-MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a measuring unit, after a rodent. See her! ??N??: A disoriented country and returning musical symbol reveal him. No, not Barding. There is a different synonym for a gang-member. (Also, 2 and 3 are connected by more than just the theme. ) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 07-12-2019 at 06:09 AM.

07-12-2019, 03:59 AM	#7442
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Is the gang-member simply Turin, because he was one? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-12-2019, 05:39 AM	#7444
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	DROGO, from DROOG? (Good job I like 'A Clockwork Orange!') PRIMULA ... Yes, that has APRIL surrounding ... MU. Can't think offhand of a country that starts that way, but .... __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-12-2019, 06:03 AM	#7445
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	It's a country abbreviation for Mauritius. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-12-2019, 06:08 AM	#7446
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	GOTHMOG: A dizzy insect within a palindrome? He is there. PRIMULA: A chaotical month surrounds a brief country, for her. DROGO: A confused gang-member reveals him. TAR-MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a measuring unit, after a rodent. See her! ??N??: A disoriented country and returning musical symbol reveal him. Can you guess the theme? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-12-2019, 06:27 AM	#7447
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Three are connected to water and one to fire, but I don't recall Hurin being connected to either. Unless he was in the Battle of Sudden Flame. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-12-2019, 07:43 AM	#7449
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	OK. They all drowned. I hadn't realised that Hurin and Gothmog drowned. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-12-2019, 08:04 AM	#7450
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I wonder if 'returning' means in the sense of being a palindrome, and the musical symbol is 'minim.' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-12-2019, 09:42 AM	#7451
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Nope. The musical symbol is something we used in our clues frequently. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-12-2019, 12:40 PM	#7452
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	AMANDIL did not return. I guess he either drowned or died of thirst or starvation. A LAND MI. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-12-2019, 01:10 PM	#7453
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Nope. Think! Which musical symbol do we frequently use in clues in this thread? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-12-2019, 01:34 PM	#7454
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Well ... notes. Not clefs or keys or flats or sharps, as I recall. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-12-2019, 02:36 PM	#7455
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Exactly. You know this, so use it. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 12:32 AM	#7457
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,972	I think it might be the actual word NOTE. The clue suggests it's backwards rather than scrambled; are there any names ending with ETON? (Isildur also drowned, but that's not much help. Arguably so did Deagol, but again...) hS

07-13-2019, 04:06 AM	#7459
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Here is one hint that would make it easy: 5 is 1's killer. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 04:42 AM	#7460
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Ecthelion. Note + Chile. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 04:44 AM	#7461
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	GOTHMOG: A dizzy insect within a palindrome? He is there. PRIMULA: A chaotical month surrounds a brief country, for her. DROGO: A confused gang-member reveals him. TAR-MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a measuring unit, after a rodent. See her! ECTHELION: A disoriented country and returning musical symbol reveal him. THEME: Characters who died by drowning Over to Pervinca! __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 05:07 AM	#7462
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Here we are, then: 1. ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking). 2. He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds. 3. He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially). 4. For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony. 5. French king returns – hear a word of praise for him! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 05:12 AM	#7463
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	3. Underhill? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 05:20 AM	#7464
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Give me more. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 05:29 AM	#7465
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Mister (sounds like 'missed her') Underhill (already explained) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 05:50 AM	#7466
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	1. ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking). 2. He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds. MR UNDERHILL: He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially). 4. For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony. 5. French king returns – hear a word of praise for him! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 06:07 AM	#7467
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Is the theme nicknames? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 06:25 AM	#7468
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No. More specific than that. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 06:28 AM	#7469
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Oh, I see. 5. Iorhael (Roi backwards + Hael, which sounds like hail) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 06:31 AM	#7470
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	1. ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking). 2. He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds. MR UNDERHILL: He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially). 4. For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony. IORHAEL: French king returns – hear a word of praise for him! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 06:33 AM	#7471
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	4. Daur, from 'dour'. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 06:34 AM	#7472
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	And the password: Maura. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 06:37 AM	#7473
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	1. Master, though I don't see how ster=lettuce-draining equipment __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 07:08 AM	#7474
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	???M???: ‘Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement!’ we seem to hear him cry, (roughly speaking). DAUR: He’s not nearly as stern as he sounds. MR UNDERHILL: He failed to meet her, we hear, beneath Henry Irving’s lissom larches. (Initially). ???R???: For him: an actress from ‘Alfie’ – pale warmth circulates - and a fireplace sings differently, and in disharmony. IORHAEL: French king returns – hear a word of praise for him! PASSWORD: MAURA THEME: FRODO Not master. What do you drain lettuce or boiled veg in? Also, you need an expression of surprise for the 'Goodness me!' to begin it with ... although 'Ma' is actually right for the 'my' bit. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 07-13-2019 at 07:15 AM.

07-13-2019, 07:14 AM	#7475
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Colander? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 07:16 AM	#7476
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Yes. Now put them together. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 07:17 AM	#7477
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Macolander? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-13-2019, 07:18 AM	#7478
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Something needed on the front. What is Frodo known for? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

07-13-2019, 07:28 AM	#7479
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Quest of the Ring? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.