Of Pharazon and Miriel - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Huinesoron · 03-06-2020, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

However, the Nine had all been distributed long ere the final days of Numenor. The Nazgul had already appeared ca. SA 2250, a thousand years before

Soooo, what you're saying is that Tar-Telperien was the original Witch-Queen, but Sauron eventually got fed up with her snootiness, kicked her out, and replaced her with Miriel?

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you meant.

hS

Urwen · 03-06-2020, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Soooo, what you're saying is that Tar-Telperien was the original Witch-Queen, but Sauron eventually got fed up with her snootiness, kicked her out, and replaced her with Miriel?

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you meant.

hS

Yeah, that IS what he is saying.

Urwen · 04-08-2020, 03:15 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dprp5QptFI

Miriel isn't even mentioned here.....

My bad, she was, but only as a footnote. She is more than a footnote. This needs fixing asap.

Urwen · 05-01-2020, 11:31 AM

*gears up to write a mega fanfic about this subject.*

Urwen · 05-01-2020, 11:46 AM

Imagine, if you will, a world where Tar-Palantir was more politically savvy. Imagine a world where he entrusted his only offspring to Amandil to raise her. They spread the word that she died shortly after birth to protect her until the time is right. Imagine a world where Pharazon ascended the throne unmolested, and over time grew careless, believing that no one could challenge him. Imagine him being killed in his sleep by a Faithful loyalist. Imagine if they started clamoring on who would inherit the throne. Imagine, at that point, Amandil revealing the child of Tar-Palantir, who didn't die after all.

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-02-2020, 04:11 PM

The Faithful assassinating people in their beds feels way more Martiny than Tolkienish.

Urwen · 05-02-2020, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

The Faithful assassinating people in their beds feels way more Martiny than Tolkienish.

Tell that to Morleg.

04-08-2020, 03:15 AM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dprp5QptFI Miriel isn't even mentioned here..... My bad, she was, but only as a footnote. She is more than a footnote. This needs fixing asap. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 04-08-2020 at 03:27 AM.

05-01-2020, 11:31 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	gears up to write a mega fanfic about this subject. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-01-2020, 11:46 AM	#5
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Imagine, if you will, a world where Tar-Palantir was more politically savvy. Imagine a world where he entrusted his only offspring to Amandil to raise her. They spread the word that she died shortly after birth to protect her until the time is right. Imagine a world where Pharazon ascended the throne unmolested, and over time grew careless, believing that no one could challenge him. Imagine him being killed in his sleep by a Faithful loyalist. Imagine if they started clamoring on who would inherit the throne. Imagine, at that point, Amandil revealing the child of Tar-Palantir, who didn't die after all. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-02-2020, 04:11 PM	#6
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	The Faithful assassinating people in their beds feels way more Martiny than Tolkienish. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.