Family Tree Trivia

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Nope.

I got the information I am after from Sporcle.

Are you saying nope, none of those are that type of cousin, or nope, I didn't find the one you're after?

(Maeglin is her paternal fourth cousin thrice removed, incidentally; I know because I checked that first. )

hS

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Are you saying nope, none of those are that type of cousin, or nope, I didn't find the one you're after?

(Maeglin is her paternal fourth cousin thrice removed, incidentally; I know because I checked that first. )

hS

Well, then Sporcle gave me false information.

You have failed me, Sporcle.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Well, then Sporcle gave me false information.

You have failed me, Sporcle.

Ah, but cousinness isn't reversible. The degree of cousin is based on how far back you have to go for a shared ancestor: first is a shared grandparent, second a shared Great-grandparent, etc. Maeglin's granddad was Fingolfin, who is Arwen's ancestor, but he's Arwen's great-great-great-granddad, hence fourth cousin from her side. (The remove is how many generations apart they are; that stays the same.)

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[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Ah, but cousinness isn't reversible. The degree of cousin is based on how far back you have to go for a shared ancestor: first is a shared grandparent, second a shared Great-grandparent, etc. Maeglin's granddad was Fingolfin, who is Arwen's ancestor, but he's Arwen's great-great-great-granddad, hence fourth cousin from her side. (The remove is how many generations apart they are; that stays the same.)

hS

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

So clearly they didn't know that.

hS

[Huinesoron]

And I guess it's me?

At the time of the War of the Ring, Gimli has one known living cousin at zero removes - ie, just a first, second, third etc cousin. What degree of cousin is he?

hS

[Urwen]

Zeroth cousin?