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Huinesoron · 04-02-2020, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Nice.

And speaking of those two, what is the relation between them?

(And yes, they do have one via Turgon ^_^)

Indeed they do! Lalwen is Lalaith's first cousin's great aunt by marriage, while Lalaith is Lalwen's grand-niece's husband's first cousin.

hS

Urwen · 04-02-2020, 03:59 AM

Correct.

Huinesoron · 04-02-2020, 04:59 AM

Almost all of Tolkien's family trees are exclusively among what Treebeard calls the Free Peoples, and the Eldar call the Incarnates or Mirröanwi: Elves, Dwarves, Men, and Ents.

Name three (or more!) parent-child relationships which do not meet this description.

(For the purposes of this question, petty-dwarves, Hobbits, Druedain etc count as part of their ancestral races.)

hS

Urwen · 04-02-2020, 05:05 AM

Mim/Ibun, Sam/Elanor, Primula/Frodo.

Easy enough. ^_^

Huinesoron · 04-02-2020, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Mim/Ibun, Sam/Elanor, Primula/Frodo.

Easy enough. ^_^

I'm guessing you wrote this before I put in my clarification (possibly it went up after you'd posted, though I didn't see your post when it went through). Hobbits and Petty-dwarves are genetically human and dwarvish, whatever they might think (and they're most definitely Rational Incarnates!).

hS

Urwen · 04-02-2020, 06:22 AM

Draugluin/Carcharoth, Galathilion/Celeborn, Celeborn/Nimloth.

(Oh, and also Ungoliant and Shelob, but they are more of an ancestor/descendant than parent/child)

How is that?

Huinesoron · 04-02-2020, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Draugluin/Carcharoth, Galathilion/Celeborn, Celeborn/Nimloth.

(Oh, and also Ungoliant and Shelob, but they are more of an ancestor/descendant than parent/child)

How is that?

Perfect. I also had Lightfoot/Snowmane, and of course Melian/Luthien (only one of whom is an Incarnate - the Ainur don't count!). I'd completely missed Ungoliant/Shelob, who I think are mother and daughter, and only thought of Draugluin/Carcharoth after I'd posted.

I wanted to phrase the question more loosely, to allow Gwaihir & Landroval to appear as brothers, but that opened up the sibling ties amongst the Valar, so I didn't.

Back to you!

hS

04-02-2020, 03:59 AM	#2
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Correct. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-02-2020, 05:05 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Mim/Ibun, Sam/Elanor, Primula/Frodo. Easy enough. ^_^ __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-02-2020, 06:22 AM	#6
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Draugluin/Carcharoth, Galathilion/Celeborn, Celeborn/Nimloth. (Oh, and also Ungoliant and Shelob, but they are more of an ancestor/descendant than parent/child) How is that? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-02-2020, 04:59 AM	#3
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,991	Almost all of Tolkien's family trees are exclusively among what Treebeard calls the Free Peoples, and the Eldar call the Incarnates or Mirröanwi: Elves, Dwarves, Men, and Ents. Name three (or more!) parent-child relationships which do not meet this description. (For the purposes of this question, petty-dwarves, Hobbits, Druedain etc count as part of their ancestral races.) hS