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Old 04-08-2020, 09:57 AM   #1
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Well, the only individuals Luthien knew that could be called 'proud' are Celegorm and her father, and none of them shares a name with anyone.

Unless....

*wanders off to check something*
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:01 AM   #2
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Well, the only individuals Luthien knew that could be called 'proud' are Celegorm and her father, and none of them shares a name with anyone.

Unless....

*wanders off to check something*
I think I know what you're thinking; if you're not, I've got a guess of my own.

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Old 04-08-2020, 10:07 AM   #3
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I think I know what you're thinking; if you're not, I've got a guess of my own.

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I bet you don't know what I am thinking at all, for what I am thinking is a name-play of sorts.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:12 AM   #4
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I bet you don't know what I am thinking at all, for what I am thinking is a name-play of sorts.
I would caution you against betting such things, because more than one person can solve a riddle. What is your guess?
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My guess is a dead end. The possible candidate I had was never rescued.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:18 AM   #6
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Guesses do that sometimes. Any other thoughts?
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:28 AM   #7
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Well, I thought about Dior and Celegorm, both being called 'Fair', but neither of them was imprisoned. Then I thought about Dior and Elured, both having sobriquets of the same meaning, but while imprisoned, Elured wasn't rescued. Then I thought about Beren, who was both humble and imprisoned, but neither of his two namesakes was prideful, and both of his namesakes are the same race as him.

I feel I am so close, but I can't see it....
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:55 AM   #8
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Well, I had no idea about the riddle as a whole, but once Urwen got us to the right general area:

'Greycloak' is used as a name for both Luthien's dad (Thingol, Sinda-Collo in the Quenya) and Gandalf (Greyhame). Gandalf was also imprisoned in a high place, like Luthien - and rescued by his buddies Radagast and Gwaihir.

It's a shame the structure of the riddle didn't let you mention that they both knew Gwaihir, come to think of it.

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