Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, game thread

[Thinlómien]

Day1

Notable that he was in the middle of the fake votes plan contoversy. Would the wolves think a seer would stick his head out like that? I wouldn't; but then again, Legate himself didn't seem to consider his own actions very controversial, so maybe he would have. Also I wouldn't put it past the wolves to have mostly concentrated on later Days. Anyway, something worth noting.

Made this absolutely silly joke early on Day1, singling out Zil:

Originally Posted by Legate

Those who are here now are fairly active already, but hey, we can't all be Wolves, right? Or... *dun dun dun dun* (No, that's not a pun on Inziladun. OR IS IT?)

which I wouldn't read much into unless his later suspicions are consistent with that.

List #88. Personally I think most potential seerish (ie clearly saying either innocent or guilty) phrasing is:

Lottie has raised some eyebrows, but it seems to me like she acts the way innocent Lottie would.

But of course, a lot of people hadn't posted very much yet when he made the list, so as an apparent seer his "dream" could have been someone he simply didn't get to comment yet. Such as Rune, who he hoped would post and then once he did, he says

Otherwise... I have good feelings about Rune, especially his post #117 seems genuinely innocentish to me.

Interestingly enough, Inzil of whom he made the jokey wolf remark early on Day1 doesn't appear on Legate's list at all.

About Lalaith his first comment upon her appearance was

That was as fishy first post as they go. "Everyone is a Wolf, hint hint not me."

Which I guess in an alternate unierse could have been Legateseer jumping on dreamt wolf Lalaith as soon as she appears on the thread.

Fake voted Kitanna. If the wolves thought he'd been the seer, would they have assumed he'd have voted a dreamt wolf if he had one? I would think that more plausible than not.

Made a second list #226. The one thing that stands out to me is in his "innocent" zone this one:

Marx - I mean, Rune - is to the point, and I sense no falsehood in his tone. Okay now.

The second time he makes a vague point for Rune's innocence, and Rune is the only person he either trusts or suspects about whom he is 100% consistent the whole Day.

This makes me feel better about Rune. If the wolves thought Legate was the seer, they most likely thought he had dreamt of innocent!Rune on Night1.

Keeps suspecting Kit and Brinn, voted Brinn.


Day2

Is rather vocal about that knowing Brinn's role would be very helpful (already mentioned this the Day before).

(Jokingly??) suspects Pitch for wanting to be a fly on the wall in the QT with Rikae and G55.

Thinks there's at least one wolf among "Lhuna, Boro, Shasta, Kitanna, Greenie and/or Eönwë (and/or Lalaith)" but doesn't quite reach a conclusion which one.

Calls Zil and Pitch "suspicious as Morgoth wearing a tutu under the Two Tree" for talking about Kit. Still "on the verge" about Kitanna, but possibly changed his mind enough for it to look like a seer dream...?

Bad vibes about Lottie, and to a lesser degree, about Huinesoron.

Another list #455. Suspects Huine, Lottie, Brinn, Lommy, Kitanna, Zil, Mac and Greenie. Considers Rune (again), Kath, THE Ka and Shasta innocent.

Starts the Huine wagon and tries to convince people to join him. Very bold if he had indeed been the seer, but I guess the wolves couldn't discount that option.

(Meanwhile, doesn't want to take a stance on Lommy vs Mac, and keeps suspecting Brinn. Mildly suspects Lottie and Greenie too.)

Presumed Legate-seer dreams: Night1 innocent Rune and Night2 guilty Huine?


Day3

Analyses the previous Day's voting in #632, but doesn't conclude much.

Mild to middle grade suspicion towards: Boro, Zil, Brinn, Sally, Lhuna, Greenie.

Mild to middle grade trust towards: Kath, Pitch, Shasta.

Another list which I'm gonna quote because it's just names:

Originally Posted by Legate

Wary of:
Greenie
Lhuna
Inzil
Boro
Brinniel
Eönwë

Thought guilty earlier but think better now:
Lottie

Flip-floppy about:

Thinlómien
Sally
Lalaith
Macalaure

Nothing particular on:
Pitchwife
THE Ka

Feeling good about:
Kath
Shasta
Rune

States he would prefer to vote Brinn, Boro or Eönwë.

Lots of frantic posting in the Sally mess. Did not trust Sally's reveal and voted her. Parting shot:

Topic for the next Day: "Who among those who abstained from voting (or voted when it matters no more) are Wolves, et cetera."

Hmm. Night3 seer!Legate dream? Innocent Kath or innocent Shasta, but pretty impossible to say which. Possibly innocent Lottie with how she go her own category on the list, but would the wolves think the seer to draw attention to their dream like that?

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Conclusions: If the wolves killed Legate for looking like the seer (and what else are they looking for than the seer?) I'm 99% sure Rune is innocent (unless the wolves somehow read Legate's posts in an absolutely different light than I just did, but Legate's consistent trust in Rune really stands out on reread).

Sadly that's the only conclusion I'm confident about. Also looks like they could have thought he dreamt of wolf!Huine, which doesn't help us very much.

Lastly, I feel a little better about Shasta, Kath, and Lottie, but I'm hesitant to say Legate's death exonerates them all.

A curious addendum? How Brinn stands out. Legate suspected her quite consistently, although not with a seerish conviction perhaps. More interesting is how he said it would be useful to know Brinn's role (both end of Day1 and early Day2) and went on suspecting her. Would a wolf!Brinn have interepreted this as seer!Legate wanting to dream of her and doing so, but for some reason concentrating primarily on other suspects (Huine and Sally) on the next Days, perhaps hoping he can come out in the near future with knowledge of wolf!Brinn and a few other dreams? I mean, from my pov, if Legate was a seer, Huinewolf looks like the most likely Night2 dream, but would paranoid Brinnwolf think otherwise? Perhaps?


edit: xed with all three previous posts