Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, game thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 05-13-2020, 01:10 PM

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Dang. How likely is it that Lhuna decided this vote?

Possible but I would say quite unlikely. Only if the dead innocents made a mess, basically.

Inziladun · 05-13-2020, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Possible but I would say quite unlikely. Only if the dead innocents made a mess, basically.

I can't see them splitting their votes. Surely there was a bloc against the evil contingent.

Loslote · 05-13-2020, 01:17 PM

At this point, I would be willing to vote Rune, Ka, or maybe Eonwe. I don't want to vote Zil right now - I don't know how much I believe that both he and Lhuna were involved in the Kit thing in the same way.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:19 PM

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at this point, i would be willing to vote rune, ka, or maybe eonwe. I don't want to vote zil right now - i don't know how much i believe that both he and lhuna were involved in the kit thing in the same way.

:d

Pitchwife · 05-13-2020, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I can't see them splitting their votes. Surely there was a bloc against the evil contingent.

All it would have taken is an early innocent vote for Rune, three baddies pile on that, votes are tied, Lhuna breaks it. It's possible.
But assuming the innocents voted wolf!Rune conventiently happens to work in your favour, doesn't it?

Then again, I wonder whether calling him Rune Son of Bjarne, Son of Marx might indicate that the final vote was Legate's, as he has referred to Rune and Kath as Marx and Kant a few times. Though I guess it might also be a joke from Nog.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:27 PM

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All it would have taken is an early innocent vote for Rune, three baddies pile on that, votes are tied, Lhuna breaks it. It's possible.
But assuming the innocents voted wolf!Rune conventiently happens to work in your favour, doesn't it?

Then again, I wonder whether calling him Rune Son of Bjarne, Son of Marx might indicate that the final vote was Legate's, as he has referred to Rune and Kath as Marx and Kant a few times. Though I guess it might also be a joke from Nog.

I don't think that's how the math works.

Innocent (Rikae, for example) votes Rune.

Huin/Lhuna/G55 all jump on and vote Rune.

Mac/Sally/Kit/Legate/Lalaith can vote someone else as a bloc of 5.

Now, if they didn't do that, I guess it's possible, but still, they must have known many of us were taking the QT vote as innocent-based.

Loslote · 05-13-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I don't think that's how the math works.

Innocent (Rikae, for example) votes Rune.

Huin/Lhuna/G55 all jump on and vote Rune.

Mac/Sally/Kit/Legate/Lalaith can vote someone else as a bloc of 5.

Now, if they didn't do that, I guess it's possible, but still, they must have known many of us were taking the QT vote as innocent-based.

They managed to vote for Lhuna yesterDay, I think we have to assume they're working together fairly well and are sending us very deliberate signals.

Inziladun · 05-13-2020, 01:29 PM

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Now, if they didn't do that, I guess it's possible, but still, they must have known many of us were taking the QT vote as innocent-based.

Especially after their advice was taken yesterDay, with dramatic results.

x/d with Lottie, who makes the same point

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:31 PM

I'm going to make Lommy happy and ++Ka - I don't see myself going much of anywhere else after the events of the last couple hours.

Pitchwife · 05-13-2020, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I don't think that's how the math works.

Innocent (Rikae, for example) votes Rune.

Huin/Lhuna/G55 all jump on and vote Rune.

Mac/Sally/Kit/Legate/Lalaith can vote someone else as a bloc of 5.

Now, if they didn't do that, I guess it's possible, but still, they must have known many of us were taking the QT vote as innocent-based.

Right, I was working with the wrong number (omitting Mac).

I'm not ready to vote Rune quite yet, but I could go with either of Ka or Eönwë (duly noted about Morgoth's Breath).

Eönwë · 05-13-2020, 01:37 PM

Just skimmed and wanted to check in for a moment (will be back properly in about half an hour). I've been suspecting Rune for Days.

++ Rune

I'm also very suspicious of anyone trying to immediately discredit/minimize what the QT has said - obviously, the innocents don't know anything, so reasonable doubt is merited, but I don't like these two reactions:

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Dang. How likely is it that Lhuna decided this vote?

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I am also very surprised.

I'm taking this as "stop taking Rune's innocence for granted" at the very least.

But enough reason to do a legate180 and vote him?

Ehhhhhh.........

I need to think this over. Possibly look at Rune's posts if I have the time (there aren't that many and they aren't that long).

Inziladun · 05-13-2020, 01:41 PM

So we currently have:

Kath--> Inzil
Greenie--> Inzil (2)
Shasta--> TheKa
Steve--> Rune

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:42 PM

That's a consistent reaction from those two, for what that's worth:

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It's 6:3 now; Hui & Lhuna can PM behind the others' backs, and we can count on G55 to vote with whatever the wolves come up with, so yes, a concerted baddie action to derail the QT vote is not out of the question. We'll all have to see what the Cuties come up with and decide whether we're willing to trust it.

This, and Lommy's post as well, rub me the wrong way. Smacks of trying to get us to mistrust the QT vote as not coming from a good place - while the dead innocents don't have any extra knowledge, I think there's slim-to-no chance they mess up, split 3/3, and give the evil deaders control (because that's literally the only scenario in which evil gets control.)

While sure, it's not impossible, I think there's a tiny enough chance of it occurring that I plan to fully trust the QT vote as coming from an innocent perspective, and casting pre-emptive doubt on it strikes me as shady.

Boromir88 · 05-13-2020, 01:42 PM

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A slip by Huinwolf seems the most likely.

In the hands of the innocent dead, I can't see any of the evil-doers being careless. I don't know Huey that well, but G55 and Lhuna are probably having a blast posting nonsense, not at all related to anything that's going on here.

Pitchwife · 05-13-2020, 01:44 PM

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I'm also very suspicious of anyone trying to immediately discredit/minimize what the QT has said - obviously, the innocents don't know anything, so reasonable doubt is merited, but I don't like these two reactions:

I don't think it's such an outlandish reaction when they vote somebody you felt very much was innocent.

05-13-2020, 01:17 PM	#3
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	At this point, I would be willing to vote Rune, Ka, or maybe Eonwe. I don't want to vote Zil right now - I don't know how much I believe that both he and Lhuna were involved in the Kit thing in the same way. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris Last edited by Loslote; 05-13-2020 at 01:17 PM. Reason: xed with Shasta

05-13-2020, 01:31 PM	#9
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	I'm going to make Lommy happy and ++Ka - I don't see myself going much of anywhere else after the events of the last couple hours. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

05-13-2020, 01:41 PM	#12
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	So we currently have: Kath--> Inzil Greenie--> Inzil (2) Shasta--> TheKa Steve--> Rune __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.