Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Dead Thread

[Blind Guardian]

And now with time stamps:

2038: Kath - Form
2058: Greenie - Legate
2102: Rikae - Form
2110: Form - Legate
2110: Sally - Form
2117: Shasta - Form

++Form

Feel free to change I have to go

[Blind Guardian]

2038: Kath - Form
2058: Greenie - Legate
2102: Rikae - Form
2110: Form - Legate
2110: Sally - Form
2117: Shasta - Form
2122: Lommy - Form

Not looking good for Form

[Loslote]

That's 5 for Form, with two more almost guaranteed. I don't think we can swing this anymore. I'm going to vote to Mediumize Form anyway, just so we, the Dead Thread, can express our displeasure with the living's vote.

++Form

[Nogrod]

Well, if it turns out a Form-wagon, we can at least make our feelings known by empowering a vote that goes not for Form (it would be somewhat funny if we empowered Form).

My own slight reluctance to empower Form is that he's still quite on the top of my list of possible wolves. But the main point of course is giving one extra vote to someone for lynching, not the vessel (person) through whom we give it.

[Nogrod]

Btw. Huinesoron!

If you're going to stand by up to the DL, so let's please not vote yet.

If something drastic happens we can "cancel" the DT-vote by voting something else.

[Nogrod]

With "drastic" I mean things like reveals or something.

Otherwise I'm okay with empowering Form.

[Loslote]

Form is going to be the lynchee either way, if we empower Greenie we draw attention to her, if we empower Form we are essentially saying "we think you made the wrong choice toDay", which I think is a message worth relaying. He's going to die anyway, so we wouldn't be potentially saving an evil, just sending the message that lynching Form toDay wasn't a choice we agree with, and we would have preferred to see them lynch Legate.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Form is going to be the lynchee either way, if we empower Greenie we draw attention to her

That I have been against from the very beginning. So agreed.

if we empower Form we are essentially saying "we think you made the wrong choice toDay", which I think is a message worth relaying. He's going to die anyway, so we wouldn't be potentially saving an evil, just sending the message that lynching Form toDay wasn't a choice we agree with, and we would have preferred to see them lynch Legate.

Well, like I said, I still suspect Form to a degree (a lot more than many others), so that was my "unhappiness" to empower Form himself, just in principle. But as there are already two votes for Form, it's a deal then as to whom the empowered vote goes is much more important at this stage than who gets empowered.

But in case of some seer-reveals or something I'd still ask hS to hold his vote.


EDIT: I clearly X'd all the stuff that actually meant something...

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Well, if it turns out a Form-wagon, we can at least make our feelings known by empowering a vote that goes not for Form (it would be somewhat funny if we empowered Form).

My own slight reluctance to empower Form is that he's still quite on the top of my list of possible wolves. But the main point of course is giving one extra vote to someone for lynching, not the vessel (person) through whom we give it.

Exactly this, though less strongly, and with added 'a Day 3 village shouldn't vote a landslide!'. I strongly suspect we've just seen a lupine mass-vote, though I don't think most of its members look wolfish.

But in the interest of solidarity :

++Formendacil

(Don't worry, Nog - the Dead have retractable voting!)

hS

[Boromir88]

Form is chosen. He's reached the threshold of 3.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Form is chosen. He's reached the threshold of 3.

Oh yeah that.

Sorry!

But frankly, when ten villagers vote for someone, I think we should support them just to highlight how dumb that is.

hS

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

But frankly, when ten villagers vote for someone, I think we should support them just to highlight how dumb that is.

I can't believe Brinn is the only person who's even mentioned that we learn NOTHING from the votes, since everyone voted for the same person.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But in case of some seer-reveals or something I'd still ask hS to hold his vote.

Sorry again. :-/ (Bit ironic, that: me misremembering the rules...)

Originally Posted by Loslote

I can't believe Brinn is the only person who's even mentioned that we learn NOTHING from the votes, since everyone voted for the same person.

UH-HUH.

It also makes Greenie Stand out a lot, whichever way Form flips.

(How did we just see 6 votes in 10 minutes - half an hour before DL?!)

hS

[Nogrod]

From Boro's comment on Form complaining in the narration that even the dead disagree, I got the vibe he's innocent.

But who knows?

It would be quite nasty blow to our self-esteem if all the village was right and we were totally wrong. Especially if Greenie and Form were the wolves who tried to prevent the lynch, but even the two other wolves gave up on him and decided to throw him under the bus.

[Loslote]

Ah, but it locks in when we hit majority+, so looks like we're empowering Form. Sorry Nog, I know you wanted to wait.

[Boromir88]

The good thing is. I'll have the narration done right at the DL. The bad is it leaves you all still with 28 minutes to wait

Edit: Which will include the displeasure of the dead, uttered through Form's voice. :-p. It shall be interesting.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Edit: Which will include the displeasure of the dead, uttered through Form's voice. :-p. It shall be interesting.

Perfect! Thanks, Boro.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Exactly this, though less strongly, and with added 'a Day 3 village shouldn't vote a landslide!'. I strongly suspect we've just seen a lupine mass-vote, though I don't think most of its members look wolfish.

But yes, this bandwagon reeks of misguided villagers with wolves pushing it from the beginning. Kath, Mac, and Legate were the ones who kept pushing up Form whenever anyone else brought up Mac or Legate, and I'm fairly convinced that those are three of the four wolves.