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Galadriel55 · 04-22-2021, 03:31 PM

Ulfang and his Ul-sons? I'm not sure even they are unambiguously evil though. The Nirnaeth is sort of said to be their fault, though, so perhaps they deserve the brand.

Huinesoron · 04-22-2021, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Ulfang and his Ul-sons? I'm not sure even they are unambiguously evil though. The Nirnaeth is sort of said to be their fault, though, so perhaps they deserve the brand.

Um... I'll accept that; they were willing Morgoth-followers. I was actually thinking of Azog and Bolg.

Over to you.

hS

Urwen · 04-22-2021, 03:34 PM

(Also, you're up in the Riddle thread)

Galadriel55 · 04-22-2021, 03:49 PM

A simple one, I think, in rather reverse-theme fashion.

Which two characters are speculated to be related, but are actually not so?

Urwen · 04-22-2021, 04:04 PM

Oh, I know! It's Morgoth and the random baby that he adopted, right?

Such a nice, upstanding fellow...going around adopting babies...

And personally, I speculate that Feanor and Gothmog are related...

Galadriel55 · 04-22-2021, 04:18 PM

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Oh, I know! It's Morgoth and the random baby that he adopted, right?

Such a nice, upstanding fellow...going around adopting babies...

I think you're still stuck on the evil parent/child question.

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And personally, I speculate that Feanor and Gothmog are related...

You might do so, but I don't think there is such documented speculation in the actual text.

Urwen · 04-23-2021, 02:47 AM

The only speculation inside the books is the Primula/Drogo deal, but that's not what it is about. Unless you count appendices?

Huinesoron · 04-23-2021, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

The only speculation inside the books is the Primula/Drogo deal, but that's not what it is about. Unless you count appendices?

Primula and Drogo were related - they shared a great-grandparent. Didn't know it was in the text of the book though (I should've checked rather than tracing family trees!).

The question makes me think of the "fairy wife" Took legend, but I don't think it's specific enough. Tolkien at one point considered the possibility of Eol being part-Noldor, which would make him distantly related to Aredhel, but it's not an in-universe speculation.

It's not Finrod and Gildor Inglorion ("Son of Inglor" = Finrod), is it?

hS

Urwen · 04-23-2021, 04:53 AM

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Primula and Drogo were related - they shared a great-grandparent. Didn't know it was in the text of the book though (I should've checked rather than tracing family trees!).

That's because it wasn't. The speculation was about the drowning.

04-22-2021, 03:31 PM	#1
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Ulfang and his Ul-sons? I'm not sure even they are unambiguously evil though. The Nirnaeth is sort of said to be their fault, though, so perhaps they deserve the brand. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-22-2021, 03:34 PM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	(Also, you're up in the Riddle thread) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-22-2021, 03:49 PM	#4
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	A simple one, I think, in rather reverse-theme fashion. Which two characters are speculated to be related, but are actually not so? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-22-2021, 04:04 PM	#5
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Oh, I know! It's Morgoth and the random baby that he adopted, right? Such a nice, upstanding fellow...going around adopting babies... And personally, I speculate that Feanor and Gothmog are related... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-23-2021, 02:47 AM	#7
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	The only speculation inside the books is the Primula/Drogo deal, but that's not what it is about. Unless you count appendices? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.