TIG CXVII: DEAD Thread: By the Waters of Tarn Aeluin

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Unfortunately, sally just had to do it when I was very busy that day and Kath had to come out forcefully to secure sally's lynch. Perhaps if I was there to vote for sally almost immediately it would have ended differently. Evil evil sally (glad your surgery went well! <3)

Yes, I was very proud of our sister Wolfcake there. She certainly made sure to go with a blast!

[A Little Green]

This is pure speculation, but I have to say that so far Lommy's reaction to the situation looks more convincingly innocent than Morsul's. He is basically trying to list all the reasons why his behaviour looks innocent (which an actual innocent has no cause to think about in that amount of detail), which is somewhat eyebrow-raising. At the same time though, I'm aware this could just be a question of playing style and nothing to do with actual innocence or guilt. It's probably a decade since I last played with Morsul () so I don't really remember if he does this when he's innocent too!

Anyway, unless things look significantly clearer in a few hours, it might be safest if I abstain from voting again. I don't want to risk an early, uninformed vote for the wrong person at this stage. There should still be plenty of us nice dead people to counteract the two

[A Little Green]

Ummm, apparently you can accidentally hit Submit Reply while halfway through a sentence. What I meant to say was, there should still be plenty of us nice dead people to counteract the two obviously evil and untrustworthy ones.

[satansaloser2005]

Looks like he might get away with this....

[Boromir88]

I'll be here to vote until the very end, but I'm not sure you want that Greenie. I honestly am hoping Soriman and Pitch vote for the same person, if it's the wolf fantastic, but if not well at least it went down to the very end and kudos to the final wolf.

The 2 most suspicious things I've seen this game:

1. Legate seemingly attaching his suspicions to "Huey + 1" 2 days in a row. I backed off on Day 3 with the information that there had to be at least 1 wolf in "Morsul, sally, and Pitch." Then Day 4 his Kath analysis I didn't catch any hints of trying to steer guilt or innocence towards any one person or another. I thought it was likely Kath had dreamed of me the night before, because of her post the next day, but I wasn't at all going to start harping on that, because that's exactly what I would have done if I was a wolf.

2. Lommy's "let's lynch Hui to find out what Boro and Legate are up to," which then when she voted for Legate, I thought "ok this is almost the same, and now fantastic Legate and Pitch are probably ordos which means Lommy and Morsul successfully put up 2 innocents to lynch."

But then it turns out Legate's a wolf so now was Morsul's push towards "let the dead decide" towards the end on the belief that you still would have voted for Pitch and Lommy's vote for Legate threw him off?

The only way I can think of for Lommy to do a wolf-on-wolf vote is if she expected to be the one lynched yesterday, instead of Legate, which I can see because I think Pitch would have voted for her if he wasn't just trying to save himself, and she may have assumed I was going to be gunning after her.

But this is all messed up because I'm just enamored that she's arguing with a dead person (me) as if she doesn't argue with herself enough as it is.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

. I honestly am hoping Soriman and Pitch vote for the same person, if it's the wolf fantastic, but if not well at least it went down to the very end and kudos to the final wolf.

Hear hear. I don't want the Dead to decide the game.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

2. Lommy's "let's lynch Hui to find out what Boro and Legate are up to," which then when she voted for Legate, I thought "ok this is almost the same, and now fantastic Legate and Pitch are probably ordos which means Lommy and Morsul successfully put up 2 innocents to lynch."

I find the way she keeps repeating that she did that, and that it didn't work, to be... not even suspicious necessarily, but /weird/.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

But then it turns out Legate's a wolf so now was Morsul's push towards "let the dead decide" towards the end on the belief that you still would have voted for Pitch and Lommy's vote for Legate threw him off?

That "get Lommy up to two and let the dead decide", to Soriman, actually looks like a masterstroke. The voting rules mean that the Dead got to decide /whatever/ happened - if everyone was at 2 or less whoever they voted for would be lynched, and if Legate or Pitch got a third vote, they could still gainsay it.

So from Morsul, the 'vote Lommy to make it even' concept is a perfect way to stop Soriman from voting Morsul - which would have let the Dead lynch him!

Except... it's clear there was a lot of confusion over the voting rules, because Pitch said the same thing. So it could just be an honest mistake by Morsul.

Re: Lommy voting for Legate - agreed that's not a great strategy for a wolf pair at endgame, but Pitch already had a vote on him, and the suspicion of the Dead (well, of the Ghost). She could have been hoping that it would come down to a tie, and the Dead would vote for Pitch - and if that didn't happen, she would have great cover for the last Day, because she just killed her packmate.

Legate voted Pitch, right? So either a tie or a straight Pitch-vote was pretty decent odds. It would have been easy to plan "I'll vote you, you join the strongest bandwagon" the Night before.

hS

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Lommy

I still think Lottie saying "Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both yes and no" and "Advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise" mean that she/ the dead don't have an opinion she's comfortable stating. (Which btw I still think is not very helpful, because it's literally a matter of life and death toDay.)

I mean we've cleared two of the four survivors, you lot have to do something to earn your princely salaries.

Besides, given that "here are two quotes, one contains 'morsel' and the other 'lomin'" has been interpreted as "Morsul is the Black Death", I'm pretty sure the Ghost trying to share a suspicion would be taken and twisted into a pretzel.

Honestly, this constant effort to prod the Ghost into posting something complicated and easy to misunderstand (why Soriman is confirmed innocent, who the Dead are inclined to suspect) is the thing that makes me most suspicious of Lommy. It seems like such a perfect Wolf play - to be able to point at a vague Ghostpost and say 'don't listen to me, listen to the unquiet dead!'.

Originally Posted by Soriman"

Pitch if you trust me as innocent and i'm correct in my understanding we could tie up the votes and leave it up to the dead.

-_-

(It's going to happen. I can sense it.)

hS