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Old 07-09-2021, 06:44 AM   #1
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The difference of the frame stories between LotR and The Notion Club Papers might steem a good deal from the conntent of the work they frame.

In the The Notion Club Papers Tolkien set out to write a story about time travel. And I beleive that the frame story was written with that in mind. And as the frame story is in existance while the The Notion Club Papers are not completed, they frame story was written relativly early.

In contarst the translator conceid of LotR was a late addition, after at least the arc of the main story was completed. And the story it frames is a fairy tale grown out of th hand of its outer and of its originally aimd readers into a legend.

So the frame story is a kind of test: If your are not totaly taken a back by it, you may more probabaly enjoy what follows.

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Old 07-09-2021, 08:35 AM   #2
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In contarst the translator conceid of LotR was a late addition, after at least the arc of the main story was completed. And the story it frames is a fairy tale grown out of th hand of its outer and of its originally aimd readers into a legend.
Do you happen to know when the translator/Found Document frame of the Book of Lost Tales emerged? The title suggests it was fairly early, but the only explicit linking of Eriol's hearing the tales to a physical book is the "Golden Book of Tavrobel" fragment or note, which I have a vague impression is late.

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While trying to find a relevant 19th century story I can't remember the title of (no luck yet). I stumbled across the Wikipedia article on time travel in LotR, which is longer than the "Time travel in fiction" article. o.O

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