Names of the Stewards of Gondor - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

William Cloud Hicklin · 05-11-2022, 10:11 AM

Note though the apparent goof on Tolkien's part: as you point out, Eradan and Herion were born when there was still a King, and the Stewards were still using Quenya names. I suppose, if one had to shoehorn it, that Mardil's son upon taking up his father's rod 'translated' his Quenya name into Sindarin, which would make him the originator of this policy of outward humility. (Insert digression on the Noldorin use of Sindarin names in Middle-earth)

mhagain · 05-12-2022, 06:58 PM

I once posited Belecthor as a name that Tolkien might have used instead of Rog, if he'd ever finished the later tale of Tuor. It seems to fit nicely with a character known as "the strong", and both Belecthors come in a sequence of Stewards mostly with connections to the story of Gondolin. Head-canon though it may be, the fact that the name is unused elsewhere and that the tale was never finished fits well with the conceit of it coming from a lost legend.

05-11-2022, 10:11 AM	#1
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	Note though the apparent goof on Tolkien's part: as you point out, Eradan and Herion were born when there was still a King, and the Stewards were still using Quenya names. I suppose, if one had to shoehorn it, that Mardil's son upon taking up his father's rod 'translated' his Quenya name into Sindarin, which would make him the originator of this policy of outward humility. (Insert digression on the Noldorin use of Sindarin names in Middle-earth) __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

05-12-2022, 06:58 PM	#2
mhagain Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The best seat in the Golden Perch Posts: 219	I once posited Belecthor as a name that Tolkien might have used instead of Rog, if he'd ever finished the later tale of Tuor. It seems to fit nicely with a character known as "the strong", and both Belecthors come in a sequence of Stewards mostly with connections to the story of Gondolin. Head-canon though it may be, the fact that the name is unused elsewhere and that the tale was never finished fits well with the conceit of it coming from a lost legend. __________________ Then one appeared among us, in our own form visible, but greater and more beautiful; and he said that he had come out of pity.