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Or was it the second?
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As for the elves, I "read" Galadriel's comment to Elrond that he has not been invited to the high table because that is for elf lords as suggesting the arrogance of elves (which is highly attested to in Tolkien's work) about Elrond's status as only half-elven. I suspect we will see Elrond earn his status as elf lord just as we will see the peoples of Middle-earth come together. very Tolkien that.
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One was a white boy southlander with a stereotypical 'alt-right' hair cut throwing out "racial slurs" (lifted from some fantasy franchise, that I am unfamiliar with) and using the "you people" line to a black man. The other was an *elf-woman servant. I took it that as a pathetically ignorant breaking of the lore. But yeah it could be read with a focus on it as 'you are a half-breed'.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the half-elven Elrond plays out some similar anxieties as Spock does. As for elf servants, all those whispy flowing robes confuse me and I've seen the episode but once. thanks for clarifying my mistakes.
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"Knife-ears" is a derogatory term for Elves taken from the Dragon Age series of videogames, in which they are an oppressed underclass (often servants).
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And Tolkien had a perfectly good 'racial-slur' that the Easterlings (seemingly represented by these Southlanders) used for Elves...
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I do find it interesting that in the one part of Middle-earth in which Tolkien unmistakably placed POC, Harad, the showrunners have chosen to put white people.
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Vulcan Elves now? Well, Arondir is sort of coming off that way so far.
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Rowan isn't highlighted in many of the cast lists but he is in one from (gulp) One Wiki to Rule them All. https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Rowan_(Southlands)
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I don't know why you think it was Theo that I was referring to when I noted the racist "knife-ears" and "you people" speech from the white boy. Did the version you saw have Theo saying? Or are you just confused? I did not say anything about the hair cut being "weird", I described the character. So again white boy with alt-right hair cut using racially charged in a modern sense speech claimed to be racist ("you people") to a black man. But no ideopolitical messaging.
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