The New(ish) Tolkien Estate Copyright FAQ - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rhun charioteer · 01-25-2023, 10:17 PM

With regards, to fanfic I get the impression they're talking about commercialized fanfic(which is technically illegal-at least in the US), I doubt the estate would sue say...fanfiction.net over LOTR fanfiction.

Regarding the rest of it, eh well IP protection and all. I'm somewhat mixed on the subject.

***Mithadan*** · 04-18-2023, 07:21 AM

It seems that Amazon and the Tolkien Estate have been sued by a writer who claims to have written, published and copyrighted "an original book entitled The Fellowship of the King and conceived an entire seven-book series, The War of the Rings." Hmmmm. I generally do not mix my professional life with this forum, however, to the plaintiff, I say (with my tongue inserted firmly in my cheek) "good luck."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...9395e1bd&ei=24

Tar Elenion · 04-18-2023, 12:38 PM

I have rapidly skimmed through the sample (ca. 8 chapters) of the book available online, and did not notice any plagiarism (although both have a character named Theo).
Seems like a publicity stunt (barring actual receipts eg showing lifted dialogue or such).

I am surprised the Estate or Harper Collins has not sued the author or his publisher (as far as I know).

***Mithadan*** · 04-18-2023, 01:14 PM

I suspect that the Estate will do so now. This may fall into the category of be careful what you ask for...

Tar Elenion · 04-18-2023, 04:46 PM

"TolkienGuide
@TolkienGuide
"Here's my annotated list of everything I plagiarized from Tolkien, that Amazon is using without MY permission!""
https://twitter.com/tolkienguide/sta...eSGnG_c5hGgMJg

Morthoron · 04-18-2023, 04:57 PM

Between Bezos and the Tolkien Family Trust, I believe they have enough attorneys and idle cash to make this incredibly cheeky chap miserable for decades.

William Cloud Hicklin · 04-21-2023, 12:20 PM

It seems we are dealing with an obsessive whose position on the spectrum is a couple of standard deviations off the mean. After he mailed his manuscript to Simon Tolkien and (unsurprisingly) got no response, he then hand-delivered another one to his home?

Prediction: Swatted like an annoying fly

04-18-2023, 07:21 AM	#2
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,394	It seems that Amazon and the Tolkien Estate have been sued by a writer who claims to have written, published and copyrighted "an original book entitled The Fellowship of the King and conceived an entire seven-book series, The War of the Rings." Hmmmm. I generally do not mix my professional life with this forum, however, to the plaintiff, I say (with my tongue inserted firmly in my cheek) "good luck." https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...9395e1bd&ei=24 __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

04-18-2023, 12:38 PM	#3
Tar Elenion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 369	I have rapidly skimmed through the sample (ca. 8 chapters) of the book available online, and did not notice any plagiarism (although both have a character named Theo). Seems like a publicity stunt (barring actual receipts eg showing lifted dialogue or such). I am surprised the Estate or Harper Collins has not sued the author or his publisher (as far as I know). __________________ Tar-Elenion

04-18-2023, 01:14 PM	#4
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,394	I suspect that the Estate will do so now. This may fall into the category of be careful what you ask for... __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

04-18-2023, 04:46 PM	#5
Tar Elenion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 369	"TolkienGuide @TolkienGuide "Here's my annotated list of everything I plagiarized from Tolkien, that Amazon is using without MY permission!"" https://twitter.com/tolkienguide/sta...eSGnG_c5hGgMJg __________________ Tar-Elenion

04-18-2023, 04:57 PM	#6
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	Between Bezos and the Tolkien Family Trust, I believe they have enough attorneys and idle cash to make this incredibly cheeky chap miserable for decades. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

01-25-2023, 10:17 PM	#1
Rhun charioteer Wight Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 118	With regards, to fanfic I get the impression they're talking about commercialized fanfic(which is technically illegal-at least in the US), I doubt the estate would sue say...fanfiction.net over LOTR fanfiction. Regarding the rest of it, eh well IP protection and all. I'm somewhat mixed on the subject.

04-21-2023, 12:20 PM	#7
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	It seems we are dealing with an obsessive whose position on the spectrum is a couple of standard deviations off the mean. After he mailed his manuscript to Simon Tolkien and (unsurprisingly) got no response, he then hand-delivered another one to his home? Prediction: Swatted like an annoying fly __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.