General changes in TftE

[Aiwendil]

"Melcor" and "Tulcas" do occur, but even in very late texts we also have "Melkor" (e.g. in the Shibboleth inf 1968 and in several of the 1972-73 texts given in "Last Writings"). Valarin-derived names, it seems, did not fall under the general late policy of preferring "c" to "k" in translating Quenya, even if he did toy with applying the policy to Valarin as well.

So I really think we must keep the "k" in names like Melkor, Tulkas, and Kementari, even though we replace it with "c" in Quenya names like Valacirca and Elemmacil.

[Arvegil145]

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

"Melcor" and "Tulcas" do occur, but even in very late texts we also have "Melkor" (e.g. in the Shibboleth inf 1968 and in several of the 1972-73 texts given in "Last Writings"). Valarin-derived names, it seems, did not fall under the general late policy of preferring "c" to "k" in translating Quenya, even if he did toy with applying the policy to Valarin as well.

So I really think we must keep the "k" in names like Melkor, Tulkas, and Kementari, even though we replace it with "c" in Quenya names like Valacirca and Elemmacil.

Again, I'm pretty zen on all of this. Whatever the consensus is, I'll go with it.

[Arvegil145]

What is the basis of the 'Eledhwen' > 'Edhelwen' change? Because the Kinship of the Half-elven (c. 1964) has 'Eledwen' instead (I think?).

https://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/...Half-elven.jpg

[Findegil]

Well, we followed the HoMe XI, Index that stated it was the later form. The references given in the Index are to The Grey Annals.

Respectfully
Findegil

[Arvegil145]

Does anyone here have the new Collected Poems by Hammond and Scull?

Because the book has the original Mîms Klage poem in English, titled The Complaint of Mîm the Dwarf in the table of contents.

[Findegil]

I think it arrieved last week, but my wife ordered it and catched it, so I think I will get it as a Christmas gift. So I have to wait a bit.