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08-31-2023, 07:51 AM
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I could agree to this proposal if we and our readers would have agoof idea what a Demon means other than a Balrog.
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08-31-2023, 08:44 AM
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The term 'Balrog' translates to "Demon of Might" in Sindarin - suggesting IMO that there are Demons (Umaiar) of lesser might.
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08-31-2023, 09:18 AM
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In my opinion, we've been over this and over this, and the solution we came up with was the best available. You might be right about why Tolkien used 'Demon' in the 'Glorfindel' text. But it's speculation.
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09-01-2023, 02:01 AM
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Anyhow, we already changed the enemy of Glorfindels deadly fight from Balrog to Demon. And striped Rog's attack from any and all the fight in the City of any direct statment of killing Balrogs. So this seems a ghost discussion. Or what was your intention Arvegil145?
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09-02-2023, 06:07 AM
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I have to apologize - I've been scouring the subforum in search of the latest decisions in this regard, and had somehow come to the conclusion that you didn't make the change from 'Balrog' > 'Demon' and about Rog's killing of a Balrog. Maybe it's because I've been absent from the project for 7 years, but I could swear that I remembered Rog's sally and his killing of a Balrog to have been included in TNS version of the 'Fall of Gondolin'. Again, I apologize: this really is a 'ghost discussion'.
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09-02-2023, 06:11 AM
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Unrelated, but: what is the last explicit mention of Ecthelion slaying Gothmog?
To the best of my knowledge, it's the marginal note to the Grey Annals (WotJ, p. 18).
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