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Old 07-18-2024, 08:13 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Findegil View Post
Okay, I can follow your argument, even so for me "Doom" did refer to the final doom of Mekor. But yes, it could refer to the doom spoken after he was captured in the War of the Powers. To make that interpretation more straight forward we could de-capitalized Doom in that line? I as well find Valar here not well fitting as I would naturly make it "the Valar". But in that respect we could be more speciffic:

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I agree 100% with the change to Aulë. That was my preference too, but I was being cautious about straying too far from the original.

As far as capitalizing vs. not capitalizing, I don't see any good reason not to capitalize it. Trust the reader's ability to interpret. Not to mention, Tolkien was fond of capitalizing Doom:
  • Ring of Doom
  • Doom of Mandos
  • Doom of the Noldor
  • Doom of Manwë
  • "neither law, nor love, nor league of swords, dread nor danger, not Doom itself"
  • "For Ossë obeys the will of Mandos, and he is wroth, being a servant of the Doom"
  • "But if I escape the Doom, what words shall I say unto Turgon?"
  • "But upon all whom you love my thought shall weigh as a cloud of Doom"
  • "Yet Doom is strong, and the shadow of the Enemy lengthens"
  • "and by the power of Ulmo escaped both the Doom and the Malice"
  • "There is the cure of all sea-longing, save for those whom Doom will not release"
  • "There Doom shall strive with the Counsel of Ulmo"
  • "And if Turgon will not receive me, then my errand will be ended, and Doom shall prevail"
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