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Old 06-01-2001, 07:46 AM   #24
Grond
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I hope this is the last reply concerning istari and their nature here. But somebody could open a new topic in the books forum...

I do not agree with you Telchar. Sauron took an appearance, but did not invest himself in the body of a man. Annatar, for example, did not grow older, as the istari did. Istari could be killed (mening the dead or their bodies), despite their spirits could return. When Gandalf died, Olorin returned in a new body (he was no longer Gandalf the Grey but the White); when sauron was defeated (not killed), he took another appearance. In my opinion, their cases are completely different.

Remember that Tokien did never said that Sauron was invested in a human's body when he took an appearance. And that is quite significant.

To sum up, I simply differenciate Gandalf from Olorin. They are not the same.

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