Elmo...

[Orofacion of the Vanyar]

In the Silmarillion, Elwë says to the dwarves before they kill him:"... Who's life began so many years before at Cuivienen." It does not say anything specific, only suggests that he was among those awoken.

You're right, it does not suggest anything specific, nor does it say that he was one of the first that awoke, merely his life began there.

Think about it, isn't it conceivable that the first that awoke had born children beside Cuivienen? Vala or not, it would take Orome some time to traverse the land in a physical form (which he was in upon finding the elves, riding upon his horse) time enough for an elf to grow to adult stature and rise to a leadership role within the elvish community.

That quote merely says his life began by Cuivienen, not specifically that he awoke by the shores or that he was born, neither is definite.

As far as the Vala being considered siblings, well they in a way are. Illuvator created them and in a sense are his children. Now if Illuvator was said to have a brother ( [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) than of course this would not make sense at all. I think it's safe to say that the Vala could be interpreted as siblings, if not genetically, in an abstract sense.

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