Werewolf XLII, Mist in the Barrow Downs

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Gwath, amazing debut -- you really had me worried toward the end there that you would track down one of my comrades! I hope you'll become a WW regular.

I HATE WEREWOLVES!!!

Thank you, though.

[McCaber]

Gwath, don't be so hard on yourself. If I were in your shoes, I have no idea what I would have done.

I did enjoy being hypocritical with Gwath and Shasta, though. That was fun.

[Gwathagor]

*Gwathagor continues to mutter and grind his teeth*

When's the next game? I want blood.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

There's something odd here. I thought Gwath's vote and mine crossed, but now that I read the thread again, I see that I posted twice after he voted

Must have been so anxious I didn't see it, somehow. Ah, well. It's been a comedy of errors all round.

Hi, Sally. Next time you find someone "furry beyond furry", maybe you'll reconsider, hmmn?

You realize the evil McCaber planted that idea about me in your head, don't you?

No, actually I thought of it myself. I was just not in the right mind at the time. Seriously, apologies to all. I'm just not of the right brain (or any brain for that matter) while I'm sick, and once I made up my mind about stuff in my ill state it stuck that way. I thought Nerwen fuzzy all the way up to the deadline because it seriously looked like she was just holding her vote to let Gwath die.

And the same to you, Nerwen, the same to you. I have big teeth, do I? Double check next time you pick on someone's dental hygeine.

Poor Gwath. Quite a terrible game to get your start on. I assure you, the next will go better. Especially if we're wolfies.

Not to be rude, but how in the devil did anyone not see Rikae as a wolf? I thought it was obvious the entire game, even before Menel's demise, and that's why I wanted to get another wolfie out of the way. Then again....I suppose the wolfsies were the main "let's ignore her" conspirators. Right little nasties.

[satansaloser2005]

*laughs herself into a tizzy*

Everyone look at Gwath's new location. *howls with laughter*

[Meneltarmacil]

Good choice you made in killing me on Night 3, Wolves. I was going to reveal myself on Day 3, bring down Rikae, whom I had dreamed of on Night Two, and reveal my other two dreams: Nogrod (Night 1) and Sally (Night 3).

Had I not been killed, Sally wouldn't have died and maybe we would have been able to catch the other wolves.

And I notice that Nogrod picked up on the fact I'd dreamed of him on Dy One. Very good thinking, and your way of influencing the villagers was why I dreamed of you first.

The wolves did an excellent job in this game. I really think Rikae's being spotted was sheer luck on my part.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Then again....I suppose the wolfsies were the main "let's ignore her" conspirators. Right little nasties.

Um, not really - Legate and McCaber pretty much went after me all day (curse them...)

My sympathy, though, for coming up with a logical plan and being lynched for it. If everyone could have been counted on to lynch me on day 4, another lynch on day 3 wouldn't have hurt you, indeed (well, lynching Nerwen wouldn't help, but still...) In the last game, remember, Nogrod killed me for coming up with a perfectly reasonable plan to catch either a Nog-or-Lommywolf. *shrug*

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Um, not really - Legate and McCaber pretty much went after me all day (curse them...)

My sympathy, though, for coming up with a logical plan and being lynched for it. If everyone could have been counted on to lynch me on day 4, another lynch on day 3 wouldn't have hurt you, indeed (well, lynching Nerwen wouldn't help, but still...) In the last game, remember, Nogrod killed me for coming up with a perfectly reasonable plan to catch either a Nog-or-Lommywolf. *shrug*

True, true. Suffice to say I'm pretty dern mad at myself. No skills this entire game, no skills.

P.S. Rikae, you're the devil.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Poor Gwath. Quite a terrible game to get your start on. I assure you, the next will go better. Especially if we're wolfies.

I don't want to be a wolf! I want to kill them! All of them!

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I don't want to be a wolf! I want to kill them! All of them!

*backs away* Psycho....

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I don't want to be a wolf! I want to kill them! All of them!

Wait until you've been one.

Oh well, what can I say? I knew the game was going to end this way when I heard who the wolves were. Congratulations, you deserved your victory. Half the time I was siding with you, half the time cursing that you were too good to be caught.

When I died I was so certain that Mac was a wolf. And you can imagine my surprise when Lommy and I called Greenie after the end of the first day to ask who had died. Well, I guess it was better that I was lynched before I got to be of too much help for the wolves.

Thanks to Farael and Roa for the game.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Wait until you've been one.

Indeed. It's SO much more fun than being an ordo. Although, I have yet to be a gifted on here. I'd quite like to be that next, just to see how I'd do. But no matter. *still fuming at the fuzzie wuzzies*



Oh, and Agan, I had the same train of thought. Then when Mac died I about lost it, knowing for certain that Rikae was a wolf and that Mac had gotten majorly....well, majorly ripped off, to put it politely. I felt so bad for the poor guy.

[Nerwen]

Once again, I feel really bad about messing up the timing... but maybe it wouldn't have altered the outcome. You wolves had it all tied up so well that even if we'd lynched Legate or McCaber, Shasta would have likely got it the next day anyhow.

[Gwathagor]

Unless Shasta had seen the light and also voted for Legate.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Unless Shasta had seen the light and also voted for Legate.

*shrugs* Well– he'd have had to change his mind about you and me being wolves together after one of us got eaten in the night. And maybe he'd have then concluded it was neither of us.

Trouble is, it looked like McCaber and Legate just couldn't both be wolves. I'd been getting an increasingly bad feeling about Legate of Dol Guldur, but I kept telling myself, "No, it has to be McCaber."

They must have been laughing their shaggy heads off at this:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

On the face of it, Legate is the least wolfish of the four– but, even though the wolves have had more than their share of luck, I can't help fearing we may have an evil mastermind at work– and I could see Legate as fitting the bill.

Originally Posted by McCaber

I do agree that Legate could be our evil mastermind, but if he is, he's playing a great game

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Indeed. It's SO much more fun than being an ordo. Although, I have yet to be a gifted on here.

After quite a long train of games I have to say that playing ordo is one of the best things that can happen to you. Well, being a cobbler kind of outranks it but after that it's my favourite being an ordo.

I had no time last I was online to thank Nerwen for her great game or to apologise to Sally... Let it be done now,

And Gwath, that was just amazing first game! I do hope to see you in the next ones! You really have talent and with playing a game or two you'll pick on the different specialities we others may come up with...

An enjoyable game this was!

And once more kudos to the wolves...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And Gwath, that was just amazing first game! I do hope to see you in the next ones! You really have talent and with playing a game or two you'll pick on the different specialities we others may come up with...

Thanks. I'll be practicing my hangman's knot. And making more silver bullets.

[Farael]

Well, that was interesting... wolves win it seems!

Now, there has been a little.... problem with the accomodations and my hotel has no Internet. I could write up a narrative right now, but I think it's better left until later when I actually have time to write something worth-while. I'll write a couple comments later, but right now I want to say

THANKS ROA

And good game to y'all (at least as far as I've read)

[McCaber]

You all may have your reckoning next time, but this Night belongs to the wolfpack.

Just thought I'd say that.

[Nerwen]

I'll say.

You know, there is a thread in the Books section about whether Morgoth or Sauron was the best villain.

I think it's clear now they're both just amateurs who should move aside for the real baddies.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I had no time last I was online to thank Nerwen for her great game or to apologise to Sally... Let it be done now

Apologize? For what? No harm done dear Noggie.

Hehe poor Noggie and clan, all brutally murdered. My first reaction was "Oh, crap." And my second was, "Genocide. How lovely."

Bring it on, Cabbie. Bring it on.

*giggles* I'm still bitter that my duck was attacked. How dare you all! A poor defenseless duck, and you almost killed her! I'm happy to report, however, that Emily is feeling much better.
Funny story, actually. My friend Emily actually got sick the day that I died in the game, which she told me yesterday afternoon when we were dining. It didn't occur to me until now, but perhaps there is dark magic about us. Or really snazzy mods.

[satansaloser2005]

By the way....for your amusement....here's a lovely artist rendering of my little Emily (the ducksie of course, not the person). Basically one of my colleagues got bored at work upon a lazy afternoon and drew....well, see for yourself....Sorry if it's really big.

[Gwathagor]

Emily has six limbs.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I'll say.

You know, there is a thread in the Books section about whether Morgoth or Sauron was the best villain.

I think it's clear now they're both just amateurs who should move aside for the real baddies.

Oh, what a flattery...

Nice location, by the way.

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Emily has six limbs.

Obviously. Not that I would be that much surprised, anyway.

[Thinlómien]

It has been a while since I last died early so it felt quite odd. But in a way it was good because I had an extremely busy week last week.

I got to know the wolves very soon after my death so I followed the rest of the game knowing the wolves' identities and despairing (and laughing, to be honest ) at the villagers being so totally confused and on the wrong track. Actually I started cheering loudly when Gwath started to accuse Legate on the last Day, but sadly it was too late.

And before I found out how things really were, I was quite convinced that the wolves are a rather bold trio consisting of Mac, Rikae and Gwath. Furthermoe, I feel like banging my head against the wall or something. On Day1, I kept looking at Mac and Rikae's interactions, thinking that one of them must be a wolf. When I read them properly, Rikae just looked so much worse than Mac. But I stubbornly clung to my suspicuion of Mac, thinking something like "Rikae may seem more suspicious but Mac is more suspicious" and ended up voting Mac and not voicing too much suspicion of Rikae. How can one be that stupid?

Anyway, it was a great game to read through. Rikae's crocodile's tears were kudos-worthy, Legate's innocent facade lasted unbelievanly well and McCaber is probably one of the sneakiest wolves in ww history. Congratulations, wolves, you were all awesome and deserved your victory.

Poor Menel did well and Gwath's debut was impressive. Actually, Sally, Nogrod, Nerwen, Greenie, Agan, Mac, Shasta ... well, everyone it seems... played well. It was a nice game, even though I spent most of the time just reading.

And wolvsies, if you feel like posting those PMs, please do: it's always interesting to read them.

[Nerwen]

Do you know that by the time Rikae was through with her little performance even I was starting to wonder if it had all been a terrible mistake?

[Macalaure]

I only just found this:

Originally Posted by Nogrod, Day 3

I love you Rikae!

Strictly platonically, I should hope.

[Gwathagor]

Ok, I've got a question for the experienced players (i.e. everybody except me): what did I do well this game, and what can I do better next game? Got to improve my werewolf-lynching skills.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Ok, I've got a question for the experienced players (i.e. everybody except me): what did I do well this game, and what can I do better next game? Got to improve my werewolf-lynching skills.

Nothing and everything, respectively. Only backwards.

To be honest, you did REALLY well, considering it was your first game. But....well....Legate's just got mad skills (Cabbie and Rikae too of course) so you were pretty much dead from the beginning of the game. I'd just suggest you play a couple more games. You'll really get the hang of it after a game or two, speaking from the POV of someone who's only played like five games.

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Ok, I've got a question for the experienced players (i.e. everybody except me): what did I do well this game, and what can I do better next game? Got to improve my werewolf-lynching skills.

In the beginning it was a bit obvious that you were still testing the waters, but later on you really grasped things. All you really need is more experience. Werewolf isn't a science. Sure, we all use tools to find wolves/trick innocents, but everyone's tool set is different. Some rely on heavy analysis, while others go more on gut feelings. Some are loud and persuasive, others are quiet and observant.

You definitely seemed more confident at the end, and really, that's all you need. I'd even say you have an advantage over many veterans here in that you can look at everyone objectively, and you haven't started thinking in circles yet.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Roa

You definitely seemed more confident at the end, and really, that's all you need. I'd even say you have an advantage over many veterans here in that you can look at everyone objectively, and you haven't started thinking in circles yet.

Agreed. Another piece of advice I'd like to give all newer players is not to trust anyone else's judgement but only their own. I was totally lead in my first game and I actually asked advice from more experienced players. Luckily, those whose advice I followed were gifted, but I could have had worse luck... But I don't think that is necessarily your problem, and like I said before, you played really well, especially towards the end.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I only just found this:

Strictly platonically, I should hope.

That's absolutely platonic, or werewolfwise... at ease Mac...

Originally Posted by Lommy

Another piece of advice I'd like to give all newer players is not to trust anyone else's judgement but only their own. I was totally lead in my first game and I actually asked advice from more experienced players.

Exactly. Some of us like to fill the thread with analysis... sometimes trying to help others... sometimes to twist the thinking of the villagers...

Think yourself - like you did in the end of the game! You and Nerwen were getting Legate caught in the end. Sadly you didn't follow that idea through. I was indeed wavering in the end of my last Day whether to bring that up but as Legate had let me live one Night when I was almost a known innocent I decided to try his sportiness one more Night by staying quiet about him... Sadly he turned out a pragmatic wolf in the end...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I was indeed wavering in the end of my last Day whether to bring that up but as Legate had let me live one Night when I was almost a known innocent I decided to try his sportiness one more Night by staying quiet about him... Sadly he turned out a pragmatic wolf in the end...

Like I said, you were already living on a borrowed time, Nogrod. You did not seem to value the fact that we let you live, so we just said "What an ingrate, it's his loss". It was just one last day anyway...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Think yourself - like you did in the end of the game! You and Nerwen were getting Legate caught in the end. Sadly you didn't follow that idea through.

Excuse me, Nogrod, Gwath followed it through– I screwed up at the end. (Mind you, we were in major trouble by then anyway.)