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Neurion · 01-09-2005, 04:16 PM

I picked this up a while ago. It's an outline someone wrote for making a film of the Akkalabeth, and (as he rather succintly points out) why it's likely never to be made.

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tar-ancalime · 01-10-2005, 01:27 AM

Thanks for posting this! It's an interesting concept, and I love the idea of Jude Law as Sauron.

Captain of Despair · 01-10-2005, 04:07 PM

I, for one, think it is a brilliant concept and the guy who wrote that presented the idea very well

Turin · 01-11-2005, 05:51 AM

I have always thought that the Downfall of Numenor and/or the Last Alliance were the most realistic possibilities to bring on to the big screen. The guy who wrote the article does well to present his ideas in a logical way.

However, despite that, it would be with a certain degree of trepidation to see if there was really going to be a movie made on this. I think the chap points this out himself, using Tolkien's own line:

"To go there is to destroy the magic".

This is moreso that ever I felt about LoTR. LoTR is a story, with a background "history", but a story just the same. I don't think many people could have any qualms about bringing this story to life. However, to "go back" and delve into the "History" parts, would probably undermine the atmosphere of the mythos; for many Tolkien fans (me included), it is the whole essence of myth and legendarium that is so fundamentally appealling - allowing our own imaginations to "look back" to the older Time, depicting characters and events that are uniquely transposed in our own minds.

Would this "ruin" the potential movie(s)?

Neurion · 01-11-2005, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Turin

I have always thought that the Downfall of Numenor and/or the Last Alliance were the most realistic possibilities to bring on to the big screen. The guy who wrote the article does well to present his ideas in a logical way.

However, despite that, it would be with a certain degree of trepidation to see if there was really going to be a movie made on this. I think the chap points this out himself, using Tolkien's own line:

"To go there is to destroy the magic".

This is moreso that ever I felt about LoTR. LoTR is a story, with a background "history", but a story just the same. I don't think many people could have any qualms about bringing this story to life. However, to "go back" and delve into the "History" parts, would probably undermine the atmosphere of the mythos; for many Tolkien fans (me included), it is the whole essence of myth and legendarium that is so fundamentally appealling - allowing our own imaginations to "look back" to the older Time, depicting characters and events that are uniquely transposed in our own minds.

Would this "ruin" the potential movie(s)?

I think he makes the point that a film about the Downfall would be the best, as Tolkien set two unfinished novels in it, and always intended to detail the events of the Akkalabeth in a more LotR-style form.

Personally, I can't possibly see filmic adaptations of Beren and Luthien, etc, "destroying the magic", but that's just me.

01-13-2005, 03:58 PM

A very cool article!! The guy that wrote it is obviously a Tolkien scholar... As much as many of us would LOVE to see a movie like this, dealing with the pre history of middle earth and LOTR, I can't see it ever happening. The movie industry is, at it's base, all about money. The LOTR trilogy had HUGE earning potential, which is why it finally got done properly. Unfotunately, I don't see much interest in this type of story by the general population, so I can't see Hollywood putting much money into the development of the story and the movie... At least not while there's another Harry Potter movie to be made... lol.

01-09-2005, 04:16 PM	#1
Neurion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Standing amidst the slaughter I have wreaked upon the orcs Posts: 258	Westernesse I picked this up a while ago. It's an outline someone wrote for making a film of the Akkalabeth, and (as he rather succintly points out) why it's likely never to be made. Westernesse

01-10-2005, 01:27 AM	#2
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	Thanks for posting this! It's an interesting concept, and I love the idea of Jude Law as Sauron. __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)

01-10-2005, 04:07 PM	#3
Captain of Despair Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. Posts: 21	I, for one, think it is a brilliant concept and the guy who wrote that presented the idea very well __________________ Thousands of years of loyal service and I'm still only a Captain

01-11-2005, 05:51 AM	#4
Turin Animated Skeleton Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 37	I have always thought that the Downfall of Numenor and/or the Last Alliance were the most realistic possibilities to bring on to the big screen. The guy who wrote the article does well to present his ideas in a logical way. However, despite that, it would be with a certain degree of trepidation to see if there was really going to be a movie made on this. I think the chap points this out himself, using Tolkien's own line: "To go there is to destroy the magic". This is moreso that ever I felt about LoTR. LoTR is a story, with a background "history", but a story just the same. I don't think many people could have any qualms about bringing this story to life. However, to "go back" and delve into the "History" parts, would probably undermine the atmosphere of the mythos; for many Tolkien fans (me included), it is the whole essence of myth and legendarium that is so fundamentally appealling - allowing our own imaginations to "look back" to the older Time, depicting characters and events that are uniquely transposed in our own minds. Would this "ruin" the potential movie(s)? __________________ Master of Doom!!!

01-13-2005, 03:58 PM	#6
shire guy Guest Posts: n/a	A very cool article!! The guy that wrote it is obviously a Tolkien scholar... As much as many of us would LOVE to see a movie like this, dealing with the pre history of middle earth and LOTR, I can't see it ever happening. The movie industry is, at it's base, all about money. The LOTR trilogy had HUGE earning potential, which is why it finally got done properly. Unfotunately, I don't see much interest in this type of story by the general population, so I can't see Hollywood putting much money into the development of the story and the movie... At least not while there's another Harry Potter movie to be made... lol.