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			Join Date: Feb 2003 
				Location: Atop the peak of Kalormė 
				
				
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			In some older maps, there is a city called 'Lond Daer' marked along the shores of the Greyflood river in Eriador. Does anyone know who founded it, what its history was, etc.? I know that the name means 'Havens of Shadow', or something to that effect.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			 Shade of Carn Dūm 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Sep 2000 
				Location: Gondolin 
				
				
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			You will find everything you could possibly want to know in Unfinished Tales - The History of Galadriel and Celeborn, Appendix D, which is entitled 'The Port of Lond Daer'. It was not a city, as such, but a former Numenorean harbour, established by Aldarion in the second age. As to the meaning of the name, Tolkien gave the translation as simply 'the Great Haven'.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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