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Old 11-22-2000, 11:11 AM   #1
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Just a question: does anybody know if Enyas nice song called Lothlorien is dedicated to Middle Earths place?
I always thought so, but I dont know it for sure.

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Old 11-22-2000, 11:23 AM   #2
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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

There are a number of artists who have recorded homages to Middle earth throughout the years.

They range from intsrumental to easy listening to rock to death metal.

A particular favorite of mine is Blind Guardian: Nightfall in Middle-earth.
Bo Hassom has some interesting stuff also.
You can find some earlier stuff regarding ME from Rush (The Necromancer, Rivendell, etc.) and the well known Lez Zeppelin insertions.

This of course does not include the many artists placing music on the net, or other veins of presentation.
If you wish to have an interesting look at an old homage, try Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner's rendition: &quot;The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins&quot;. It's Amusing. Perhaps I'll post the lyrics here if its seriously requested.


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Old 11-24-2000, 11:16 PM   #3
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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

'Lothlorien' by Enya has nothing to do with Lothlorien in ME, apart from the fact that it's a kind of 'natural' themed song -- just like all her others.

'Ngihtfall in Middle-Earth'? I'd like to hear it. Does anyone have it on MP3 or something so I can listen to it?

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Old 11-25-2000, 06:53 PM   #4
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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

Nightfall on .mp3?
Sure enough. And easy to find.

I use this user name there also.
While looking; if you see me... feel free to drop a lne.

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Old 11-29-2000, 03:27 PM   #5
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Thanks

Can you tell me where could I find the music youre talking about, on the net? I have listened some themes on several webs, but I didnt like them so much. They are so poor ...
And another question: does anybody know where can I find JRR Tolkien singing himself the song of the Old Troll? Once I found it on a website and I cant remember wich was...
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Old 11-30-2000, 12:36 AM   #6
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Music on the net?
Easiest is Napster, and what I was obliquely referring to.
(Get it while you can).

http://www.napster.comwww.napster.com</a>

Big hint for future reference: please set your TCP settings at 0 instead of the magical number of 6688, 6697, or 6699 (whichever comes up). These settings cause problems with uploading. People tend to git a bit irritated when your settings are incorrect (assuming you have something they want).

As for some audio of JRRT himself:
http://town.hall.org/Archives/radio/..._harp_ITH.htmltown.hall.org/Archives/ra...p_ITH.html</a>

I'm in the middle of ripping the Caedmon set (personal use...).
When I'll finish, I have no idea; I've been in the middle of it for the last month.
Things just seem to get in the way.

The nice part is that it has the full versions, plus Songs and Poems (w\ Donald Swann), Adventures of Tom Bombadil, and Christopher Tolkien reading 'Of Beren and Luthien' from Sil.

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Old 12-01-2000, 07:25 PM   #7
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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> A particular favorite of mine is Blind Guardian: Nightfall in Middle-earth.<hr></blockquote>
YES!!! It's always nice, as a metalhead, to come into non-metal boards and see people praising one of my favorite bands.<img src=smile.gif ALT=""> Here's a few choice Tolkien related Blind Guardian songs:

MIRROR MIRROR!!! (their best!)
The Curse of Feanor
Into the Storm
[insert: the rest of Nightfall...<img src=smile.gif ALT=""> ]
The Bard's Song: The Hobbit
Lord of the Rings
By the Gates of Moria
Gandalf's Rebirth
Plus there's references in lots of their other songs. Damn, I love this band!
Oh!
On their next album they are doind a ~13 minute song (their longest yet!) in tribute to Lord of the Rings. Their song &quot;Lord of the Rings&quot; from Tales from the Twilight World just wasn't enough!<img src=biggrin.gif ALT="">

Anyway, here's some good metal bands that are all too obviously named after various Tolkienisms<img src=smile.gif ALT=""> :
Lothlorien
Isengard
Cirith Ungol
Gandalf
Cirith Gorgor
Morgoth
there must be more...

also Orange Goblin spring to mind with the song &quot;Lothlorien&quot; from their Freguencies from Planet Ten record, although that's more &quot;stoner rock&quot; as opposed to metal.<img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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Old 12-02-2000, 09:20 AM   #8
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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

Cirith Ungol brings back LONG forgotten memories (about 15 years or so IIRC).
Was listening to them at the same time as the now defunct Alcatrazz (remember Mr. Malmsteen anyone?)

Yup. PLENTY of bands that pay homage. Think I said that already.

On BG; I like Time Stands Still (At The Iron Hill) as an interesting piece.

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Old 12-04-2000, 08:50 PM   #9
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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

Cirith Ungol kicked ***. Way more than Malmsteen!<img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> &quot;I Am A Viking&quot; is the ch eeeeesiest song ever!<img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

Summoning is another band I forgot. They've touched on Tolkien.<img src=wink.gif ALT=""> <img src=biggrin.gif ALT="">

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Old 12-04-2000, 11:03 PM   #10
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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

Try Burzum dude.

CU back then (Early 80's IIRC) made old Sabbath seem like top 40's (but then so did very early Queensryche, so that's not saying much, [remember the mini-LP?]).

Summoning is alright. Think they're classed as Death Metal more than Metal (general).

From the discussion; groups associated with Tolkien are easily discovered (a return to the question sortof).
This has been mostly restrained in the metal field in this discussion, but has larger branches in other genres more 'popular'.

A return to Yngwe for a sec... c'mon... can you really think of a more contemplative song (for the time) than Hiroshima mon amour? But now... does anyone even know where Mr. Malmsteen is? (I do... but n/m you wouldn't believe me if I told you).

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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

&quot;The Crying Orc&quot; maybe?<img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">
I was never a big Burzum fan. I was always too bitchy about Varg being a moron.<img src=mad.gif ALT=">:"> <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> But then again I love Mayhem, and Euronymous was no better.<img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> Pfft, Inner Circle.<img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> I've some Burzum mp3s which are pretty cool, but I will not buy his CDs!! Unless maybe I see one used.<img src=devil.gif ALT=":evil">

Malmsteen should have a new CD out soon.<img src=wink.gif ALT=""> Not with Alcatrazz though!! Still flying (over his frets) solo, although I think he's re-adopted the Rising Force moniker. He's latest singer quit the band (again?) recently.

...and I would comment on non-metal, but I'm afraid it's the only genre I can name examples of Tolkien in.<img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">


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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

I've downloaded all those songs; I like them very much. (Not off Napster, of course; they're ripping musicians off. I got them from MP3.com.) Though no band has sung these songs, if you go to http://www.planet-tolkien.comwww.planet-tolkien.com</a>then there are some MP3's of Frodo's 'The Man in the Moon' song and such.

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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

Dude; I said Napster was easiest.

You could also go to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 or other variations for stuff.

But those are other alternatives.

In which case you should probably avoid alt.binaries.e-books for those .txt copies of books eh?

You remind me of a dude who IM'ed me while on napster... claiming as moral choice to not download more than one song as it would be considered pirating and would affect his conscience (who subsequently downloaded my entire Star Wars Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition).

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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

Napster? They should have outlawed that site; I haven't yet worked out why it's still legal.

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Well since it was just purchased by BMG music... it's gonna be a moot point soon anyway.

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Yeah! Outlaw Napster! After all! Haven't you noticed the entire recording industry going under since Napster started? I heard they'r going to close all the CD stores soon. Who needs em!?

Give us a break about Napster. The recordable cassette didn't crash the industry and neither will Napster.

With that said.... end of topic. We pride ourselves on keeping it Tolkien here. We don't need to get further into this argument that will get us nowhere anyways.

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Re: Lothlorien by Enya

Well alrighty then.

Anyone interested in Tolkien recordings?
BBC adaptations... Unabridged audio... general tolkien music?

I'm personally all for napster... as if you couldn't tell.
If the above sound interesting... go get 'em.

It's no more pirating then say... a VCR.
And we know how damaging those were to the movie industry.

And thanks about the napster comment.

Did I return it to a Tolkien flavor?

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Indeed you did! And I will do what I was supposed to do - address the topic. I've heard the CD version of the reading of the LotR, but I've not heard any of the dramitization.

I've only listened to a couple songs from Blind Guardian and didn't really care for it. And I've heard a few other Tolkien-inspired songs at various locations around the internet.... some were ok, some were not... but none thrilled me much. Maybe I should give another listen one of these days.

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Well if you're interested in the dramas... then i'll put them back into my library for you (or anyone else for that matter).

Same for the unabridged recordings.

The Silmarillion stays out, sorry but my HDD is already too full to bring that back (along with everything else).

There is some interesting Tolkien Music by Patrice.
24? Tracks... available only through internet AFAIK.
Perhaps this is what you were referring to.

Some of the most readily available instrumental Tolkien inspired music is by Bo Hanssom and Johan de Meij.

Music-wise (concerning Tolkien) I only currently have the original score for the Bakshi LOTR movie [18 tracks at 160kbs] if anyone is interested (I dumped everything else - they didn't go with my current library theme [heh]) and why the dramas and unabridged stuff and all the other non-compatible items are moved out ATM.

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Alright, Wight! I didn't expect that snotty reply about Napster when I posted an offhand comment on the thing. What I said was true, and though all you Napster loyalists may not think so I do. No, the music industry won't collapse because of them, but all the same, I don't know why it's still legal and yet there are laws stating clearly that it shouldn't be. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/"> <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b">

Period. (Don't post a comment on this reply, anyone <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> )

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I would never post a (second) snotty reply to the guy who both decries the illegality of Napster but asks if anyone can spare some copyrighted software.<img src=wink.gif ALT=""> That would point out an unexpected hypocrisy (not mine). And we're friends here! So stop defending your misguided point already. <img src=tongue.gif ALT="">

P.S. We ARE friends here.... so please take the above as good-natured (if somewhat scathing) ribbing.

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<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Thanks for the name of more Tolkien-inspired musicians, Saulotus. I would like to dig into that library of yours!<hr></blockquote>
By all means... My current Library has a few surprises therein.
One of my little surprises is the complete original radio broadcast of Orson Welles' 1938 Mercury Theater War of the Worlds.

However...
The original post was about Tolkien inspired music, and with the thread wanderings... hopefully the question was answered in ways that were unexpected.

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Errrm... well, I seemingly overlooked that point. But I'm not a software pirate, really I'm not. I don't do that kind of thing normally, even a trial version would do! *Gwaihir squirms in his sea somewhat shamefully* And you couldn't spare some copyrighted software for the good of the downs, could you? <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/"> <img src=smokin.gif ALT=":smokin">

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I read somewhere that Enya did write Lothlorien based on the place in ME. I love the composition and I think that it is most suited as the sountrack for Lothlorien. As for Enya's Memory of Trees, I like to think of that as the soundtack of Caras Galadhon.

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Anyone interested in Tolkien recordings?
BBC adaptations... Unabridged audio... general tolkien music?
I am interested! I really do wish I can hear Tolkien's own music for Namarie.

[ September 30, 2002: Message edited by: Estel the Descender ]
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