Alternate ending to LotR... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

01-05-2002, 01:49 PM

Ive seen the move twice now and Im something of an expert on LotR at work so everyone at works keep asking me questions like: is Gandalf really dead or what happens at the end? Like you couldnt guess its going to have a happy ending?So today while I was out splitting wood I started thinking about what to tell them so as not to ruin the movie. How about this:Gandalf is dead... Everyone else dies in the big war... Frodo loses the Ring and Sauron get it... People alive today are actually descendents of evil men and orcs from ME... Notice how Saruman is the high tech guy? Hes the reason our society is obsessed with technology today...Then when their mouths drop open you can say that LotR is "very famous for its social commentary and didnt you know?"

Lush · 01-05-2002, 02:35 PM

Try adding to that "And Princess Diana was the descendant of Arwen and Aragorn!" "And Mini-Me is the true heir of Gimli!"

Gayahithwen · 01-05-2002, 02:38 PM

that could be fun.. ^_^ or what about this:"Gandalf is alive.." *everybody seems happy* "..he comes back and joins Saruman" *everybody faints*or something like that.. cruel, I know but fun..

Elrian · 01-06-2002, 02:59 AM

Just tell them to read the books or just wait and see, if you tell them some big fabricated fib, they may not be your friends next year.[ January 06, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ]

Enkanowen · 01-06-2002, 04:30 PM

it's hard not to tell them anything. very hard. especially when there are people who dont want to read the books until they saw all three movies first (don't ask me why, there are some odd people about this world).well, he technically does not come back as Gandalf the Grey, he has a new name and different clothes and has changed quite a bit.so one could play with that...

Rose Cotton · 01-06-2002, 04:46 PM

Go ahead and tell them Gandalf's dead. Also say that Frodo dies. That way when we get to the Shelob part in the movie next year they'll be in for a big suprise. That's a good idea. I'm gonna tell my friends that!!

01-06-2002, 10:33 PM

Ack, for me it's hard to keep my mouth shut and NOT tell people what happens. Love the books and the movie so much, I just like to freakin talk about it. Now all the sudden everyone is interested in what I've been interested in all along and I finally have people to talk to it about. Hard not to spoil the entire thing for them, especially when they ask.

Gayahithwen · 10-31-2002, 02:11 PM

Hhhhmmm.. what about 'Frodo dies and Gollum runs off with the ring'? or perhaps 'you know, Aragorn abandons arwen for a pretty human girl named Eowyn'?hhhmmm.. any other suggestions?(bringing this topic back up on top from page 20 where it has been burried for a while)

Nevfeniel · 11-01-2002, 10:08 PM

Going along with what Gayahithwen said, "And Arwen hooks up with Boromir's brother, Faramir." And/or "Pippin, tired of being thought of as the clumsy hobbit-fool, kills several orcs, but accidently kills Merry, too." Yikes. I'm glad that didn't really happen. Anyone who actually uses these, be sure to post their reactions.

Manwe Sulimo · 11-02-2002, 04:02 PM

Heh...I told some girl that Frodo gets eaten by a spider, and she started crying.Eru, I love this job.

Diamond18 · 11-02-2002, 04:16 PM

Evil, evil, evil! I wish I knew people I could do that to....

Arwen Imladris · 11-02-2002, 04:20 PM

My alternate ending would be that Frodo throws the ring into the fire without Golumms help, then Golumm is free at last. They all go to Minas Tirith for Aragorn's wedding. Then they all go there separate ways. The elves all stay in ME for a couple more years and then slowly leave. Arwen and Elrond's last meeting was full of love. Gandalf and Saruman and Radagast all leave with the last ship along with Legolas and Gimli and Elrond. Frodo and Bilbo stay in the shire until the end of their days. The end

Emni Windrunner · 11-03-2002, 02:47 PM

I already "let slip" to two of my roommates that Frodo dies at the end of TTT. One read far enough that she knows what the actual outcome is. The other...well, I think she's caught on from hearing the other three of us talk that there's more to it than that, but she's still working through reading FOTR, so she doesn't know what. But that's okay, because she read the back of a version of TTT that had a major spoiler in its summary and let slip that Gandalf wasn't dead before I either read the books or saw the movie. So I guess that makes us even.If I remember the look on her face correctly, though, she was really freaked out that Frodo was pushing up daisies just over halfway through the trilogy. It was highly amusing...until my one roommate who knew better accused me of doing it deliberately. Now, granted, I did, but that's hardly the point!

Gayahithwen · 11-11-2002, 02:55 PM

Ok, my little brother was pestering me, so I had to do something evil against him.. Since he often asks me about what'll happen in the next movie, and is to lazy to read the books, I told him following: 1. Aragorn and Eowyn falls in love and Aragorn completely forgets about Arwen. 2. When Arwen realises that Aragorn has abandoned her, she ends up with Boromirs brother Faramir. 3. Merry gets mortally wounded in a battle, and Pippin gets scared and run away. 4. Saruman wins the battle against the ents, with all his hidden machinery and lava things. 5. Frodo gets killed by a spider. 6. Gollum is purely evil, without any good traits at all, and he kills Sam. 7. Gandalf is changed after coming back (as the white) and begins to act violently. (and my brother from this derived the idea that Gandalf becomes evil. heh!)You should have seen his face! :

01-05-2002, 01:49 PM	#1
John of the Race of Men Guest Posts: n/a	Alternate ending to LotR... Ive seen the move twice now and Im something of an expert on LotR at work so everyone at works keep asking me questions like: is Gandalf really dead or what happens at the end? Like you couldnt guess its going to have a happy ending?<P>So today while I was out splitting wood I started thinking about what to tell them so as not to ruin the movie. How about this:<P>Gandalf is dead...<BR>Everyone else dies in the big war...<BR>Frodo loses the Ring and Sauron get it...<BR>People alive today are actually descendents <BR>of evil men and orcs from ME...<BR>Notice how Saruman is the high tech guy? Hes the reason our society is obsessed with technology today...<P>Then when their mouths drop open you can say that LotR is "very famous for its social commentary and didnt you know?"<P>

01-05-2002, 02:35 PM	#2
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,803	Try adding to that "And Princess Diana was the descendant of Arwen and Aragorn!" <BR>"And Mini-Me is the true heir of Gimli!" __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

01-05-2002, 02:38 PM	#3
Gayahithwen Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The chat-room. Posts: 243	that could be fun.. ^_^ or what about this:<P>"Gandalf is alive.." everybody seems happy "..he comes back and joins Saruman" everybody faints<P>or something like that.. cruel, I know but fun.. __________________ Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he'll be a mile away - and barefoot.

01-06-2002, 02:59 AM	#4
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	Just tell them to read the books or just wait and see, if you tell them some big fabricated fib, they may not be your friends next year.<p>[ January 06, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

01-06-2002, 04:30 PM	#5
Enkanowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 53	it's hard not to tell them anything. very hard. especially when there are people who dont want to read the books until they saw all three movies first (don't ask me why, there are some odd people about this world).<P>well, he technically does not come back as Gandalf the Grey, he has a new name and different clothes and has changed quite a bit.<P>so one could play with that...

01-06-2002, 04:46 PM	#6
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	Go ahead and tell them Gandalf's dead. Also say that Frodo dies. That way when we get to the Shelob part in the movie next year they'll be in for a big suprise. That's a good idea. I'm gonna tell my friends that!! __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

01-06-2002, 10:33 PM	#7
FilmHobbit Guest Posts: n/a	Ack, for me it's hard to keep my mouth shut and NOT tell people what happens. Love the books and the movie so much, I just like to freakin talk about it. Now all the sudden everyone is interested in what I've been interested in all along and I finally have people to talk to it about. Hard not to spoil the entire thing for them, especially when they ask.

10-31-2002, 02:11 PM	#8
Gayahithwen Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The chat-room. Posts: 243	Hhhhmmm.. what about 'Frodo dies and Gollum runs off with the ring'?<BR>or perhaps 'you know, Aragorn abandons arwen for a pretty human girl named Eowyn'?<P>hhhmmm.. any other suggestions?<P>(bringing this topic back up on top from page 20 where it has been burried for a while) __________________ Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he'll be a mile away - and barefoot.

11-01-2002, 10:08 PM	#9
Nevfeniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mithlond Posts: 783	Going along with what Gayahithwen said, "And Arwen hooks up with Boromir's brother, Faramir." And/or "Pippin, tired of being thought of as the clumsy hobbit-fool, kills several orcs, but accidently kills Merry, too." Yikes. I'm glad that didn't <I>really</I> happen. Anyone who actually uses these, be sure to post their reactions. __________________ Consider the purr a variety of audible tranquilizer. [. . .] For a few of us, there is one more purr, a secret purr. When we combine our secret purrs, we produce the Purr of Power. And that is simply the amplified amity we feel as furred and purred beings.

11-02-2002, 04:02 PM	#10
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	Heh...I told some girl that Frodo gets eaten by a spider, and she started crying.<P>Eru, I love this job. __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

11-02-2002, 04:16 PM	#11
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,561	Evil, evil, evil! I wish I knew people I could do that to.... __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-02-2002, 04:20 PM	#12
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	My alternate ending would be that Frodo throws the ring into the fire without Golumms help, then Golumm is free at last. They all go to Minas Tirith for Aragorn's wedding. Then they all go there separate ways. The elves all stay in ME for a couple more years and then slowly leave. Arwen and Elrond's last meeting was full of love. Gandalf and Saruman and Radagast all leave with the last ship along with Legolas and Gimli and Elrond. Frodo and Bilbo stay in the shire until the end of their days. The end __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

11-03-2002, 02:47 PM	#13
Emni Windrunner Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nallennia Posts: 52	I already "let slip" to two of my roommates that Frodo dies at the end of TTT. One read far enough that she knows what the actual outcome is. The other...well, I think she's caught on from hearing the other three of us talk that there's more to it than that, but she's still working through reading FOTR, so she doesn't know <I>what.</I> But that's okay, because she read the back of a version of TTT that had a major spoiler in its summary and let slip that Gandalf wasn't dead before I either read the books or saw the movie. So I guess that makes us even.<P>If I remember the look on her face correctly, though, she was really freaked out that Frodo was pushing up daisies just over halfway through the trilogy. It was highly amusing...until my one roommate who knew better accused me of doing it deliberately. Now, granted, I <I>did</I>, but that's hardly the point! __________________ Marindia Elyais Lya Kandiro Elia Kandro Eilidh Andara Iliana Emnilia

11-11-2002, 02:55 PM	#14
Gayahithwen Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The chat-room. Posts: 243	Ok, my little brother was pestering me, so I had to do something evil against him.. Since he often asks me about what'll happen in the next movie, and is to lazy to read the books, I told him following:<BR>1. Aragorn and Eowyn falls in love and Aragorn completely forgets about Arwen.<BR>2. When Arwen realises that Aragorn has abandoned her, she ends up with Boromirs brother Faramir.<BR>3. Merry gets mortally wounded in a battle, and Pippin gets scared and run away.<BR>4. Saruman wins the battle against the ents, with all his hidden machinery and lava things.<BR>5. Frodo gets killed by a spider.<BR>6. Gollum is purely evil, without any good traits at all, and he kills Sam.<BR>7. Gandalf is changed after coming back (as the white) and begins to act violently. (and my brother from this derived the idea that Gandalf becomes evil. heh!)<P>You should have seen his face! : __________________ Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he'll be a mile away - and barefoot.