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Old 07-26-2000, 06:02 AM   #1
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Welcome to the board, my precious. I don't recall exactly which finger it was, but by the end of the day I'm sure someone here will have the answer!

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Old 07-26-2000, 03:01 PM   #3
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Third finger, right hand.

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I would guess, the finger you poin with, what we call &quot;The ring finger&quot; where I come from. When it comes to what hand, I must guess, right.

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Actually, isn't the ring finger the one by the pinky?

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Old 07-26-2000, 05:26 PM   #6
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I don't know. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/"> I haven'y got any rings...

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It's third finger, right hand. I didn't bother to cite earlier but it's on page 282 of my 1965 inprint of RotK. Sam wakes and sees Frodo asleep with his hand resting on the coverlet. Third I assume to be the finger next to the little finger upon which wedding (and other significant) bands are worn.

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Old 07-27-2000, 10:36 AM   #8
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The third finger is always the middle finger. Count your fingers and you“ll see <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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The answer is crystal clear -- except that it isn't. <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> I wouldn't have thought that you counted the thumb as a finger, owing to its own distinctive name and status. Which makes the third of four ambiguous. I went with the traditional western identification of the finger next to the little finger as the &quot;ring finger.&quot; For historical evidence, see the (anonymous German) Bridal Pair in the Cleveland Museum, Jan van Eyck's portrait of his wife in the Stedelijk Museum in Bruges, or the Titian Venus with a Mirror at the National in Washington.

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One speaks of gripping an object between the thumb and first finger. I would therefore consider my middle finger to be my second finger. If this is correct the third finger would be, as Galpsi suggests, the traditional Western `ring` finger, i.e next to the pinky.

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It was indeed the ring finger on the right hand which, not including the thumb, is the third finger. Of course, afterwards Frodo's third finger would have been his little finger. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

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I always pictured it to be the wedding ring finger but then a thought would come into my head &quot;well you cant really call your thumb a finger but if you did then the ring would end up on the one next to the third finger&quot;.Welcome to the Barrow Downs MP hope to see you here alot.
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OK just to add to this fairly arcane discussion: what finger did SAURON have the ring on (cut off by Isildur)?

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yeah, it always seemed really awkward to me that Isildur just swoops in and manages to cut off that one important finger, and no others. Or does he do it after he kills Sauron, when it is relatively easier(no need to dodge)?

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Perhaps Sauron wore it on his middle-finger and was giving his enemies a 'salute' when it was swiped off!

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In The Silm (&quot;Of the Rings of Power . . . &quot it is implied that Sauron was &quot;thrown down&quot; by Elendil and/or Gil-galad, then the ring was cut from his finger, then his spirit fled his body. Perhaps he was stunned while Isildur did his carving.

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I'm sure Isildur was moving fast and simply grabbed the hot ring finger of Sauron when he was down, pulling it back hard, maybe even breaking or disjointing it, and then hewing it off with a single sure stroke of the hilt-shard of Narsil.

We know that Gollum saw a nine-fingered Dark Lord.

Just couldn't reconstitute that last little bit...

...or maybe he was just sentimental, refusing to have the finger if it couldn't wear the Ring!

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Let's get back to the Frodo topic,okay that is discusting blah

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well, we're all sure that it was the right hand ring finger, which supposedly is the one next to the pinkie right?
just have to say i like the 'salute' version of saurons demise <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> . i think that he died with his hand splayed out, isildur saw the ring, decided he wanted a souvenir kill dark lord get magic ring free! so he hacked the ring off.

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I would say the 'salute version' isn't that probable, I mean, why wear a magical ring on your middle finger?
I'd say the most probable solution is that in both cases the ring was on the right hand ring finger, and just that.

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ok if your having trouble grasping the idea that it was on his 3 finger of the right hand. then think of this if you where a ring on the left its the one next to the pinky. and thats for a wedding ring. on th eright hand you wear the ring on the same finger. ok? its not that hard.

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How can everyone be so sure that Frodo had the ring on the right hand?
I'm not saying that he had it on the left hand, but if. It was maybe hard to use sting while having a ring in that hand, and at least I don't know how big the ring is.
Of course you can ignore this if it says anything in the books, i don't know.
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It was only a plain gold band, how big it didn't really say (for a hobbit finger) But didn't it shrink or expand to fit the wearers finger?
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The reason why the wedding ring is usually worn on the left hand, on the third finger next to the pinky is of course mainly tradition but also because it“s the one place where the ringer is the most out of way for normal acting. At least if you are a right handed person.
Even a small ring can be least annoying there, I“d say.
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Hi, new here, both to the board and the discussion.

Anyway, the 'ring finger' is the third finger (next to pinky) by traditional western standards. Thats based off greek custom, where the wedding band was placed on the the third finger of the LEFT hand, because it was believed that a vein ran directly there from the heart (the source of love). This custom has been co-opted by most western societies.
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The reason why the wedding ring is usually worn on the left hand, on the third finger next to the pinky is of course mainly tradition but also because it“s the one place where the ringer is the most out of way for normal acting. Even a small ring can be least annoying there, I“d say.
Yes, but what if the wearer is left-handed? We're never really told which hand is Frodo's dominant, are we? I really have no idea which finger it was on; I just wanted to make a devil's advocate of myself. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 01-07-2002, 01:11 PM   #32
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I think that when some of the old greek scientologs first started to "discover" the human body, they used prisoners doomed to death or corpses and cut them up, the prisoners alive, to see how everything worked. And then they found that vein from the ring finger to the heart. Besides, when my dad had to go in for surgery, and they had to x-ray his heart, he couldn't wear his wedding ring, and he supposed it was because of that.. well, that is about all I know in the matter.. Hoped it interested someone.. :P
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Old 01-07-2002, 06:59 PM   #33
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Gayhitthwen, are you sure it was an X-ray? More likely it was an MRI, as soft tissue like hearts doesnt show up on X-ray.

MRI's use incredibly powerful magnets, so no metals are allowed, including wedding bands.
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It's definatly his right hand because it's right there in the book. Plain as day. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] The question is whether it was the ring finger( the one next to the pinkie) or the middle one? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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I thought it was his right hand index (pointer) finger (one closest to the thumb).

And for the Sauron thing... I always imagined Sauron lying on the floor, having been defeated by Elendil and Ereinion. Isildur, having the hilt of Narsil in his hand with only about 1/4 of the blade left simply took a downward stroke onto the finger the ring was on. No bending it back and then cutting it off. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-09-2002, 04:49 AM   #36
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<STRONG>I thought it was his right hand index (pointer) finger (one closest to the thumb).
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If it was Frodo's index finger, it would have been quite hard for him to write that book after the war. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Unless, of course, he *was* left-handed, as someone here suggested.
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It was the index finger, it certainly wasn't the ring finger in the movie anyway. But that is an interesting question, How did he write some of the Redbook, unless he was a lefty.
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Old 02-25-2002, 03:43 PM   #38
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You can wright without a indexfinger. I tried ones...
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Ring is on the finger thus, ring finger. When Gollum chomped off the finger (though he actually wasn't planning on biting the finger off, he was going to gently slip the ring off Frodo's finger, but he forgot he had webbed hands and feet. Don't ask.) he gave Frodo the absolutely beautiful nick-name of: Frodo of the nine fingers. Or, something similar.
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Old 02-25-2002, 09:19 PM   #40
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Okay, I just looked in RotK. Third finger, right hand. (Hm. I always thought it was his left hand, don't know why. And you have four fingers and a thumb. So I'd say it is what we in America dub the "ring finger". How ironic. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) And you can write if you're missing your ring finger so Frodo can still be right handed. (I've probably just re-stated everything that's already been said, but, well, now you all know for certain.)
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