First Age Trivia

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

What was the name of these halls (that Turgon built beneath Mt. Taras)?

[luthien-elvenprincess]

Vinyamar, the First Homely House east of the sea

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

[luthien-elvenprincess]

you-thank, Nil ;)

In what year did Tuor come to the deserted halls of Vinyamar?

[luthien-elvenprincess]

bumpin'

[OldTomBombadil]

I believe it was the year 496.

[luthien-elvenprincess]

Close enough...I have two sources that give two different years of his escape from Lorgan. One says 490, the other says 492. So, after 4 years of living in solitude...that makes either 494 or 496. So, at long last...you are correct!

[OldTomBombadil]

What star was most beloved by the Elves?

[Gil-Galad]

Probaly the star of Earendil, as Galadriel described it, a light when all lights go out

[OldTomBombadil]

Of course Gil-galad would know that Eärendil, his sister's son, is correct. :)

[Gil-Galad]

Earendil, son of Idril, Daughter of Turgon, son of Fingolfin

so it would be more distant cousins...


anyways back to the quiz...


Who took the tower from the guard and who was the guard of the tower?

crpytic yes...

[Fingolfin II]

Sauron? He assaulted Minas Tirith, which was under Orodreth's care, and took Tol Sirion. He then became the lieutenant of Tol Sirion under Morgoth?

[Gil-Galad]

rather quick, good job, it was easy i know, couldn't think, busy making Silmarillion Flash movie

[Fingolfin II]

Cheers,

What/who killed Urwen?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

An evil wind out of bloody Angband.

[Fingolfin II]

All yours, 'paurion.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

So, like, which Elf-princes of Noldor died in Bragollach?

[Gil-Galad]

That would be Valiant Fingolfin, aganest Morgoths hammer did he meet his end...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Fingolfin died after Bragollach.

[Gil-Galad]

then...Gelmir? but i guess he started Bragollach...

[the phantom]

Angrod and Aegnor

[OldTomBombadil]

Of course Gil-galad would know that Eärendil, his sister's son, is correct. :)
Sorry, my mistake. I meant cousin's son. (I wouldn't consider that "distant".)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

:)

[the phantom]

:)
Who was the wife of the man described as "the most fierce and desperate"?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Eiliniel?

[the phantom]

Ditch that last "i" and you've got it.

Or... well, I suppose you can have it anyway.

:p

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Ai, Eru nîn! A misspelling I have made!

Well, thanks, Herr phantom, for overlooking my mistake. :)

Who brought up the father of the king of the Kings of Men?

[the phantom]

Kings of Men= Numenoreans

The King of the Numenoreans= the line of Elros

The father of the line= Elros

Who brought Elros up? Maglor

Is that what you were looking for?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Elros is not the father of that line, he was the first.

[the phantom]

Then I suppose you are calling Earendil the father of the line?

Earendil was brought up by his mommy and daddy, Tuor and Idril.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

"[F]ather of the king of the Kings of Men" is a phrase in UT. It doesn't refer to Eärendil.

[the phantom]

Looking for a phrase, eh? Bleh, I don't have my books.

But seeing as there is (or would appear to be) a limited number of candidates, I will venture one further guess...

Annael of the Grey-Elves

(not a complete guess though, for now that you mention UT I seem to remember a description of Tuor when in Turgon's hall or leaving it stating that he didn't know how great he looked, and it might have said something about looking the part of the father of the kings of men)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

. . . and he scores!

Annael it is!

Your thread, Sir phantom.

[the phantom]

the phantom doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "I give up". :p

Okay, who did men say was born with good luck?

[the phantom]

Hint- he met Hurin.

[the phantom]

Hint- he met Hurin after he (Hurin) was released from Angband.

[Lindolirian]

Manthor?

[the phantom]

Nope, but not too far off. The page I'm looking at right now has both Manthor's name and the name I'm looking for on it.

[Marky Lazer]

Could it be Avranc?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

The phantom is out of town for the holidays, so he's requested that I babysit his quiz question. Avranc is not correct.

Fea

[the phantom]

Hint-

He followed the wandering Hurin and had his good luck mentioned when they were near Brethil.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Is it found in the Silm or UT?

[the phantom]

HoME Volume XI The War of the Jewels, The Wanderings of Hurin

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

hardang?

[the phantom]

His name begins with an "A".

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Let me spring in late here and say, Asgorn?

[Edit:] the ever kindhearted phantom sent me a pm asking whether I meant "Asgon". I suspect I did.

[the phantom]

I suspect you did, also.

And if our suspicions are correct, it would be your turn.

Go ahead, my dear.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Amon Rudh resembled a bald head. That bald head occasionally appeared to have a strange ailment. What was that ailment, and what was its cause?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Amon Rudh was covered with seregon, a plant named for its blood-like appearance. It often appeared that this hill was covered with blood. This hill was made of stone, though seregon (meaning blood of stone in Quenya) was able to grow on it.

Is this what you were looking for?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

That's exactly what I was looking for. Sorry about the extremely strange wording, otherwise the question would have been too easy.

*steps to the side* the floor is yours. :)

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

I love the First Age of Middle-earth; of all the ages in Tolkien's legendarium, I am most well-versed in the First.

While we're talking about Amon Rudh, why don't we discuss it some more? :)

When and how was Amon Rudh destroyed?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The dwelling at Amon Rûdh? Or the Hill itself?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Both :)

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Well, I would assume that the hill was destroyed at the flooding of Beleriand, and if not previously destroyed I suspect the building would have gone with it... so I'll guess:

At the time of and by the drowning of Beleriand.

Sophia

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

For the when I was looking specifically for the War of Wrath, but yes, that was when Beleriand was destroyed and sent underwater.

Ask away :)

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

How old were Elured and Elurin at the time of their capture from Doriath?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Oooh.....All I can remember is that they were children....

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

any hints? :D

[Gil-Galad]

arrgh i just read it.... me thinks around teenage...

[Firefoot]

Six or seven, I think I read somewhere. I think it must have been here on the 'Downs though because I can't find anything in any of my books - if it is in a later volume of HoMe then it was definitely on the Downs. If not... well, I can't find it.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

It was six that I was looking for, and I honestly can't remember where I drew the information from. *blush*

You may go Firefoot.

[Firefoot]

Name two people who took the wound of a dart meant for another.

[Lindolirian]

Aredhel took Eol's javelin for Maeglin and Beren took Celegorm's (or was it Caranthir's?) arrow meant for Luthien.

[Firefoot]

Precisely.

[Lindolirian]

How long did Gondolin take to come into existence (from conception to completion)?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

From I 126 to I 510.

[Lindolirian]

...I'm talking contruction time.

[luthien-elvenprincess]

Ulmo inspired (conception) Turgon to build Gondolin in F.A. 50 ; it was finished in F.A. 104...therefore 54 years.

[Lindolirian]

But was it completed in F.A. 104?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

completed in I 126, thus taking 76 years from conception to completion?

[Lindolirian]

Nice nab, Sophia

[luthien-elvenprincess]

(tosses stupid reference book across the room...clay-brained, incompetent proof readers anyway!) ;)
Good job Sophia :)

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Sooooooo-phiaaaaa...

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

try to word your easy question as obscurely as possible. ;)

Who in the first age shared her nickname with both an elf and a woman in the third?

Sorry I forgot about this thread for so long.

Sophia

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Well, Aragorn called Arwen "Luthien Tinuviel" when he first saw her; she was an Elf who married a human......

[NightKnight]

My guess would be Aredhel, whose title was White Lady. As for the Third Agers, I'm guessing Galadriel and Eowyn.

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Argh , i think you're right. Why didn't I think of that?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Correct KnightNight. Your go. :)

[NightKnight]

Ooh, I got one right. :D It's been a while now...

Who was known as "the Tall"?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Maedhros

[NightKnight]

Yep. Your turn. :)

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Ookeee...


Why were the Eagles sent to Middle-earth?

[Lindolirian]

To keep watch on Morgoth from the inaccessible peaks of Thangorodrim.

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Close enough. Your question.

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Neeeeeeyyeeeeext.....

We should do countdowns, as they do on the quiz rooms at torc, where if the questioner etc doesn't reply after 24 hours, a countdown starting at five starts, and numero uno gets the next question.

[Gil-Galad]

if you read the Quiz Room Rules, the next person has 10 days to anwser, if not then it is open to anyone

[Lindolirian]

Good gracious me, I'm terribly sorry. Thanks Gil-Galad.
What was Hunthor's last act? (specifically)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

He saved Túrin, or he hit the waters of Teiglin? :p

[Lindolirian]

Hahaha, yes saving Turin was what I had in mind, but I suppose splashing in Teiglin was his very last act. :D

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

His last act before kicking the bucket was cursing himself for saving Túrin. :D

Enedwaith, name the order in which the people of the House of Finwë returned to Valinor (through death or otherwise).

[NightKnight]

Returned, hmm? Finwë never left, so that rules him out.

Finarfin* (though he never really went back to ME, so I don't know if he counts)
Feanor*
Aredhel
Angrod/Aegnor
Fingolfin
Finrod
Fingon
Orodreth
Finduilas
Celegorm/Curufin/Caranthir
Maeglin
Turgon
Idril
Amrod/Amras
Eärendil
Maedhros
Maglor? (not certain that he ever went back)
Celebrimbor*
Gil-Galad*
Elrond/Galadriel*

* Not in the First Age (this is First Age Trivia, after all ;))

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I'm thinking Eärendil got there first before Idril, but all else looks correct.

http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif You're up. :)

[NightKnight]

Possibly, but she left ME before him at least.

Anyway, ze question...

Who was Turin's grandfather's sister (two answers, I want both)?

[Fingolfin II]

Gloredhel (Galdor's sister) is the only one I know of. I don't think Baragund (Morwen's father) had a sister?

[luthien-elvenprincess]

Turin's great-aunt on his mother's side is Haleth; great-aunt on father's side is Gloredhel

[NightKnight]

You have Gloredhel right, but who's the other one?

[Lindolirian]

Bereth, sis of Baragund.

[NightKnight]

Yup. Fingolfin or Lindo gets it (you both got one right).

[Lindolirian]

What was the signal that was supposed to allow simultaneous attack at the beginning of the Nirnaeth?

[NightKnight]

A great fire in Dorthonion.

[Lindolirian]

That's was it!

[NightKnight]

Oh crap, now I have to think up a new question. I've gotta stop answering so many threads. :p

Why was the lighting of that fire delayed?

[mormegil]

It was delayed because of the councils of Uldor the accursed that Maedhros listened to.

[NightKnight]

Exactly. Uldor told Maedhros that an attack from Angband was coming, which held him back.

[mormegil]

Good...I hope this is a decent question (it being my first)

At what time of day did Khim die?

[mormegil]

Okay, in an attempt to not allow this thread to drift into oblivion I will give the answer and hope that somebody will post a question.

He died at sunset

[NightKnight]

When did Finrod Felagund die?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

While saving Beren from the Werewolf in Sauron's prisons. He fought the wolf with only his hands, and succeeded in killing it, though he himself was mortally wounded.



What was the demise of Fingon?

[Gil-Galad]

NightKnight is suppose to confirm your anwser...if it is correct then continue with your question

[NightKnight]

Actually, mormegil posted an answer that we are supposed to give the question to. That's what I did.

[The Saucepan Man]

Actually, mormegil posted the answer to his previous question and invited anyone to continue with a new question. Which was what everyone assumed that you had done, Nightknight.

I suggest that the thread continues with Celebriel Esgaledhel's question, although Gil-Galad is correct. You should wait for confirmation of your answer before posting a new question.

So the question, posted by Celebriel Esgaledhel's, is:

What was the demise of Fingon?

[Envinyatar]

Slain by Gothmog during the Nirnaeth Arnoediad

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Of course! :) Your turn

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Hmmm....I've just read the last few posts. If one is sure that the answer to his or her question is correct, why not go ahead and post another question? It would save time.

[The Saucepan Man]

If one is sure that the answer to his or her question is correct, why not go ahead and post another question? It would save time.Because those who are sure that their answer is correct are not always correct on either count.

The Quiz Room Rules (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=206902#post206902) are clear on the point. It has worked well to date and so remains the rule.

[Envinyatar]

So . . . shall I go ahead and pose a question?

[NightKnight]

Yes Envinyatar, please post a new one.

I apologize for misreading what mormegil wrote. My mistake. :o

[Envinyatar]

Who rewards men well for two “wolf-heads”?

[mormegil]

Larncach is the answer.

[Envinyatar]

Indeed!

Carry on . . .

[mormegil]

There is a "great mere" in Nevrast. What was its name? What does it mean?

[Lindolirian]

Linaewen which means lake of birds.

[Firefoot]

Linaewen, meaning "Lake of Birds."

Oh, shoot, beaten by a minute!

[mormegil]

Linaewen which means lake of birds.

Correct and you just beat out Firefoot by one minute.

Good job Firefoot too.

[Lindolirian]

Who was the mentor of the maker of Anduril?

[Firefoot]

Gamil Zirak.

[Lindolirian]

You got it!

[Firefoot]

List all the named people who, before the Fall of Gondolin, were permitted to leave after staying there.

[mormegil]

List all the named people who, before the Fall of Gondolin, were permitted to leave after staying there.

I might be a bit confused but if I understand what you mean I believe the answer is:
Aredhel
Huor
Húrin

but it could also be many nameless mariners and Adedhel companions but I think you just mean those three.

[Lindolirian]

Add Voronwe to that it would be complete. Maeglin also "got out" but wasn't "permitted", so I don't suppose he counts.

[mormegil]

Add Voronwe to that it would be complete. Maeglin also "got out" but wasn't "permitted", so I don't suppose he counts.

I counted Voronwe among the mariners, though he has a name given in the books, but that's why I was a bit confused. I'm not sure if he was to be included.

[Firefoot]

Lindo's got it. :)

[Lindolirian]

What symbol was on Tuor's battle standard and why did he use it?

[Firefoot]

The white swan wing, and I'm guessing it's because of the swan's symbollic significance to him, what with them leading him on while he dwelt by the sea. Also, it was the symbol on the armor he found in Nevrast.

[Lindolirian]

That's it!

[Firefoot]

Thanks muchly.

When Frodo is imprisoned in Cirith Ungol, Sam begins to sing in hopelessness and thereby learns Frodo's location. This event is mirrored very closely by a First Age event. What event is this?

[Lindolirian]

Fingon singing on the cliffs of Thangorodrim and Maedhros' reply to him as he hung by his wrist.

[Firefoot]

You've got it!

Oh, and happy 2000 posts (1 post early)! ;) :D

[Lindolirian]

Thanks!
What is the importance of a certain song of Glirhuin's?

[mormegil]

In his song he said the Stone of the Hapless, where Morwen died, would never be defiled by Morgoth nor should it ever be cast into the sea

[Lindolirian]

Bingo!

[mormegil]

Túrin had some similarities with Aragorn. I'm thinking of a specific honor both received from the elves. What was it that they received?

[Lindolirian]

Love and Lembas.

[mormegil]

Looking for Lembas...more unique than love in this case. Good job and your go.

[Lindolirian]

How years after the Battle of Sudden Flame was a Silmaril taken from Angband?

[Firefoot]

14 years?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Are you still there?

[Lindolirian]

No I'm not here. I'm working at summer camp (where there is no internet) and only have Saturdays off. Luckily I came home for Father's Day, got on the ole Downs, and saw this. Firefoot is correct: carry on!

[Firefoot]

Who makes a prophesy concerning Eöl, and what was it?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Did Melian make the prophecy? Was it about the heart of Eöl dwelling in Anglachel not loving Beleg, the hand that wields it?

Why are you answering with a question?

So what's wrong with a question?

[Firefoot]

No. It directly concerns Eöl. (Don't look too far, either - it's said to his face and he doesn't appear that much in the Sil... ;) )

[mormegil]

I forgot about this thread for a bit...

It was Curfin and he said: "...And this counsel I add: return now to your dwelling in the darkness of Nan Elmoth; for my heart warns me that if you now pursue those who love you no more, never will you return thither."

[Firefoot]

Aye, that's it!

[mormegil]

Of the exiled Noldor, who was the first to enter into Menegroth and why this elf?

[Gil-Galad]

Finrod Felagund and because his mother was a Teleri, a kindred of the Sindar

[mormegil]

Sorry that's incorrect.

[Gil-Galad]

Galadriel then...(trying to think back...)

[Firefoot]

Angrod, as a messenger of his brother Finrod.

[mormegil]

Firefoot you are correct.

[Firefoot]

:)

Who offers Túrin freedom?

[mormegil]

Perhaps I should consult the book but I believe it's Glaurung

[Firefoot]

Your memory serves you well. That's correct.

[mormegil]

Who is the first recorded elf to meet mortal man?

[Firefoot]

Finrod Felagund, or, to them, Nóm.

[mormegil]

Ya I knew it was easy but it's good to remember sometimes the basics.

[Firefoot]

Yeah... especially in a book like the Sil (or UT...).

Why was Hísilómë (the Land of Mist) named that way?

[Alcarillo]

Because of the clouds that Morgoth sent over there, right?

[Firefoot]

Yes indeed. Your turn.

[Alcarillo]

Which of Gondolin's gates was wrought by Maeglin after the Nirnaeth Anoediad?

[empress_han]

Isn't it 'the great gate'? I think it was made of steel..(7th gate?)

[Alcarillo]

Correct. Your turn.

[empress_han]

Thanks.
What was disguised as 'The Dry River'?

[Alcarillo]

That was the path to Gondolin's gates, if I remember correctly.

[Alcarillo]

Because it's been 6 3/4 hours since I posted my answer and I haven't gotten a response yet and because I'm going to bed soon, this is my question if I am right on my last answer . I'm continuing this little Gondolin theme with:

The guards of which gate of Gondolin had:

faces masked with vizors that bore each an eagle's beak. ?

[empress_han]

That was the path to Gondolin's gates, if I remember correctly.
Yep, well done, I was asleep

[Alcarillo]

Here is my question, which I previously stated above:



The guards of which gate of Gondolin had: faces masked with vizors that bore each an eagle's beak.

?

[mormegil]

Is the the forth gate and the of iron

[Alcarillo]

Yep. Your turn.

[mormegil]

Where is spyhill and what event occured there?

[Alcarillo]

Spyhill, Amon Ethir, was raised a league east of Nargothrond. It was here that Glaurung hypnotized/mesmerized/enchanted/ Nienor, erasing her memory.

[mormegil]

Correct. Carry on.

[Alcarillo]

Who and how did Sauron trick into betraying Barahir?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Gorlim Angrimson, one of Barahir`s twelve men in Dorthonion. Orcs came and slew them them all, save Beren, who was out spying. The cut off Barahir's ring hand, as proof of their success.

[Alcarillo]

Yes, it was Gorlim who betrayed Barahir, but maybe I wasn't clear enough in my question when it concerns the how. Let me rephrase it: How did Sauron trick Gorlim into betraying Barahir? You have the following events down fine, but I wanted the events that caused it. You're halfway there, Celebriel.

[mormegil]

He pretented to be Gorlim's wife and told him that if he were to betray Barahir he would be taken to her. Which happened by killing him.

[Alcarillo]

Yep. Your turn.

[mormegil]

Beren saw Luthien and she fled then he saw her again. I want to know in which season the visit came. (2 answers) (seasons-summer, fall, winter, spring)

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

It was in summer-time when he stumbled into Doriath, bent as if old and weary, and came upon the dancing Luthien. He saw her in autumn and in winter, then finally in the winter, when she released the bonds of winter, he cried 'Tinuviel' and came to her, and she loved him.

[mormegil]

Correct and by releasing the bonds of winter it became spring.

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Discuss the language of the Ainur and Valar - what is it called, and why/how is it used? What other means of communication do these celestial beings possess? What does this language have in common with the other languages of ME, and what are the differences?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

anyone?

[Gil-Galad]

That is about 5 questions in one...don't expect immediate results

[mormegil]

Well I will start this by answering one part and work on the others. I believe they are able to communicate without words. Meaning with their thoughts they can hold council, just as they did after the darkening of Valinor when Feanor felt they were doing nothing.

I know it doesn't answer all, but again it's at least a start.

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

And a correct start, it is. ANd it's not five questions; rather, just one with a complete answer.

[Alcarillo]

It's called Valarin, and I suppose it was used to communicate. What else could it be for? Valarin also seems to have influenced other languages in Arda, as Ardalambion (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/valarin.htm) points out:

Nonetheless, Quenya borrowed some words from Valarin, though they often had to be much changed to fit the restrictive phonology of High-Elven. From the Silmarillion we remember the Ezellohar, the Green Mound, and Máhanaxar, the Ring of Doom. These are foreign words in Quenya, adopted and adapted from Valarin Ezellôchâr and Mâchananaškad. The names of the Valar Manwë, Aulë, Tulkas, Oromë and Ulmo were borrowed from Valarin Mânawenûz, A3ûlêz, Tulukastâz, Arômêz and Ulubôz (or Ullubôz). So is the name of the Maia Ossë (Ošošai, Oššai). The names Eönwë and possibly Nessa also seem to be adopted from Valarin, though the original forms of the names are not recorded.

Sometimes a Quenya word derived from Valarin does not mean exactly the same as the original word. Quenya axan "law, rule, commandment" is derived from the Valarin verb akašân, supposedly meaning "He says" - "he" being none other than Eru Himself. The Vanyar, who were in closer contact with the Valar than the Noldor, also adopted more words from their tongue, like ulban "blue" (original Valarin form not given). But the Valar themselves encouraged the Elves to translate Valarin words into their own fair tongue rather than adopt and adapt the original Valarin forms. And so they often did: The names Eru "the One = God", Varda "the Sublime", Melkor "He who arises in Might" and several others are one hundred percent Elvish, but also translations of the Valarin names. See WJ:402-403 for a full list of such translated words and names.

By mysterious routes, Valarin also influenced other tongues than Quenya. It is interesting to note that the Valarin word iniðil "lily, or other large single flower" appears in Adûnaic (Númenórean) as inzil "flower" (as in Inziladûn "Flower of the West", UT:227). How could a Valarin word get into Adûnaic? Via Elves, possibly even Vanyar, visiting Númenor? Via Khuzdul, if Aulë put this word into the tongue he devised for the Dwarves? There is little doubt that the speech of the ancestors of the Edain was heavily influenced by Dwarvish. There is no record of any Vala ever visiting the Númenóreans and speaking to them directly, and even if one did, he would certainly use a language they could understand, not Valarin.

Anthony Appleyard has pointed out that one word in Sauron's Black Speech, nazg "ring", seems to be borrowed from Valarin naškad (or anaškad? The word is isolated from Mâchananaškad "Ring of Doom", so we cannot be sure of its exact form). As a Maia, Sauron would know Valarin.

So there are some similarities between Valarin and the languages of Middle-earth, in that Valarin influenced some vocabulary. As for the differences, it uses some phonemes not used in other languages, which include a gh sound, and a distinction between aspirated and unaspirated sounds. Sh is also present. Sure, some Middle-earth languages have these sounds, but it just sounds very different to me. Also, Valarin words are commonly sesquipedalian, up to 19 letters.

I hope that answers some of your question(s).

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Go ahead :)

[Alcarillo]

Okay, name all who should be included in the dots between Beor the Old and Bregor on the geneology of the House of Beor in the back of the Silmarillion.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Bëor the Old
|
Baran
|
Boron
|
Boromir
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Bregor

[Alcarillo]

Yep. Your turn.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Who made the Hithaeglir, and why was it raised?

[Alcarillo]

Melkor made the Hithaeglir to hinder Orome as he rode through Middle-earth.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Sorry for being nitpicky, but I'm just like that.

Oromë and . . .

[Alcarillo]

Oromë . . . and the elves?

[mormegil]

I can't think of it right now but I believe he wants Orome's horse's name

[Alcarillo]

Oromë and Nahar?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Correct. You may proceed. :)

[Alcarillo]

Who was buried in the Tûr Haretha, and what is another name for this tomb?

[Dimturiel]

Lady Haleth was buried in the Tur Haretha, wich is also named Haudh-en-Arwen.

[Alcarillo]

Correct, Dimturiel. Your turn.

[Dimturiel]

What was the name of the elf-maiden of Doriath who had been Turin's friend?

[mormegil]

Findulas

[Dimturiel]

Findulas was from Nargothrond, not from Doriath. Try again. :p

[Alcarillo]

Was it Nellas?

[mormegil]

Findulas was from Nargothrond, not from Doriath. Try again. :p

Trick question. That's what I get for answering first thing in the morning without reading carefully.

[Dimturiel]

Yes,Alcarillo, it was Nellas. Sorry,Mormegil, better luck next time! ;)

[Alcarillo]

Name two characters became one-handed.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Beren and . . . uh . . . Maedhros!

[Alcarillo]

Yep.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Which Elven prince had the biggest territory?

[Gil-Galad]

Fingolfin i beleive, of Hithlum, well Fingolfin/Fingon

[Alcarillo]

Finrod Felagund.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Back to you again. :)

[Alcarillo]

Who had hewn his right foot with an axe as a woodman?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Sador Labadal.

[Alcarillo]

Yep.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Name three characters who stepped into Angband on their own (that is, not forced into it).

[Alcarillo]

Beren, Lúthien, and Fingolfin? Does Beren count? He needed to enter Angband in order to retrieve a Silmaril, so would that count as being forced? And I know Fingolfin didn't enter Angband, but he did come pretty darn close to it, and I can't think of anybody else at the moment.

[Gil-Galad]

well theres Fingon...Luthien...and of course Eonwe and the Valar...Ooh Melkor! Sauron! and the Orcs that captured Hurin!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

But I should have clarified--"good" characters only.

I need one more.

[Gil-Galad]

wouldn't Fingon count? he chose to go to Angmar to look for Maedhros

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Fingon didn't enter Angband--he clomb it.

Look for guys with grudges, and you'll get who I'm looking for.

[Alcarillo]

Tulkas sort-of had a grudge, you could say. But he's not a "good" character, right?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I think it's Utumno he descended into.

Anyway, he's not the one I'm looking for.

HINT: He entered Angband a little bit after Beren and Lúthien.

[Alcarillo]

Was it Gwindor? He had a grudge because his brother was chopped up in plain sight, and he and his soldiers

... burst through the Gate and slew the guards upon the very stairs of Angband ...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

You got him!

Your thread. :)

[Alcarillo]

Who is the first named person to be killed by a dragon?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Azaghâl?

[Alcarillo]

Yep. Sorry if my question wasn't very clear.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

And don't worry, the question was clear enough. :)

Name one Elf who went with Finrod and Beren.

[Alcarillo]

Edrahil's one of them.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Take it. :)

[Alcarillo]

Why was the River Ascar later called the Rathlóriel?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

'cause the Laiquendi (led by Beren) battled the Menegroth-loot-laden Dwarves of Nogrod, and the treasures were dumped into the river.

[Alcarillo]

Yep. Your turn. :)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

What was the real name of Húrin's first daughter?

[Alcarillo]

That would be Urwen.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Yours again. :)

[Alcarillo]

Who with Arminas came upon Tuor at Annon-in-Gelydh?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Gelmir.

[Alcarillo]

Your turn. :)