"Minor works" Quotes

[HerenIstarion]

I will, your ladyship, I will

Next to try one's teeth on:

What can I do to make amends or give thanks?

[Guinevere]

:) that was Smith (of Wootton Major) to the birch (which had lost all its leaves) in Faery!
btw this part leaves me rather mystified ... :rolleyes:

[HerenIstarion]

that's him

and yes, me too :)

[Guinevere]

Thank you Heren Istarion!

How came such a story ever to be invented?

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Max Müller referring to The Frog-King in On Fairy-Stories

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Welcome back, Bruce!

*waves enthusiastically*

[Guinevere]

That's right !

[Bruce MacCulloch]

What ails you now?
** Hey Esty-lady!**

[HerenIstarion]

Nice to see you, Bruce :)

That was Tidwald to Torhthelm, trying to sooth his fear at imagined dangers of the now deserted battlefiled

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Very astute there, H-I
Your turn

[HerenIstarion]

Thanks :)

next up:

Till it is earned I'll have no fee

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The witch Corrigan is speaking to Aotrou: He thanked her, trembling, offering gold
to withered fingers shrunk and old.
The thanks she took not, nor the fee,
but laughing croaked: "Nay, we shall see!
Let thanks abide till thanks be earned!
Such potions oft, men say, have burned
the heart and brain, or else are nought,
only cold water dearly bought.
Such lies you shall not tell of me;
Till it is earned I'll have no fee.
But we shall meet again one day,
and rich reward then you shall pay,
whate'er I ask: it may be gold,
it may be other wealth you hold."

[HerenIstarion]

precisely :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Wishful thinking, weather-wise... This is nice and warm

[HerenIstarion]

sounds a bit like Krumm talking to Oblina and Ickis (of "Aaahh, real monsters!!!" cartoon series) about garbage bin of sorts ;)

But indeed that is moon dog of Roverandom about cave of sorts

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's right, HI - and let's hope that we can say that about the Easter weekend weather!

[HerenIstarion]

let us hope indeed. It is nice and warm down here right now, let it extend :)

next one:

my love is wed

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's Aotrou speaking to Corrigan in The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun.

[HerenIstarion]

correct :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a new one: I have been repaid.

[HerenIstarion]

The smith looked long at Alf. Then suddenly he bowed low. "I understand at last, sir," he said. "You have done us too much honour."
"I have been repaid," said Alf. "Go home now in peace!"

[HerenIstarion]

Estelyn? :)

[The Saucepan Man]

It's a pretty safe bet that you got it right, H-I, so I think you should go ahead with the next question. :)

[HerenIstarion]

Well, summoning ten day rule to sooth my conscience, I now present to your attention the following:

This place cannot be left just as my private park

[Guinevere]

:) This is Niggle talking to himself, wishing that Parish would be there to help him.

[HerenIstarion]

Correct :) Pray proceed

[Guinevere]

Thank you! :)
I found a proverb! ;) "No news is bad news."

[HerenIstarion]

Sunny Sam of Ham that is :)

[Guinevere]

:eek: It took me quite a while to find out that the gloomy blacksmith was indeed referred to as "Sunny Sam"! ;) So you are right, of course!

[HerenIstarion]

Ah, Sunny Sams of Ham
No news is bad news for them... :D

next one up:

... let us run, or dance, or lie down in the sun...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

HI, I've been pondering this quote, but it sounds totally unfamiliar to me, so that I have no idea where to start looking. Clue, please?

[HerenIstarion]

Well, activities described, though in other times quite pleasant, at a particular timeand place may endanger lives of those practising them :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Even with that clue, I couldn't find the quote. Since the ten days are up, I humbly admit defeat - please give us a new one, HI! (Oh, and do tell where it was - I am curious!)

[HerenIstarion]

Look, there is Fastitocalon!
An island good to land upon,
Although 'tis rather bare.
Come, leave the sea! And let us run,
Or dance, or lie down in the sun!
See, gulls are sitting there!


It was easy, was it not? :)


Next one likewise:

You do not belong here. Go away and never return!

A bit gloomy though, unlike the thing I would wish to tell you, quite the opposite if truth be told, but quote is quote, after all, and can not be altered (unless it is "mistranslation" thread, o'course)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Ah, that comes because I was skimming the passages with direct speech = looking only at what was within quotation marks. Well, I'll try to find the new one now.

[Guinevere]

Wasn't that the (unspoken but "felt") answer of the birch to Smith's question "What can I do to make amends or give thanks?"

[HerenIstarion]

yes, Guinevere, pray go on :)

[Guinevere]

:) Thank you!Be off now all the lot!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's the Troll to the People in 'Perry-the-Winkle'.

[Guinevere]

...and I didn't say that to chase all the guessers away ;)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

While looking for that quote, I found something similar. Here it is as the next one: ...you had best be off...

[HerenIstarion]

Ah, this one I know for sure - that was Giles to his King, as he warned him to go before the dragon became uncontrollable

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Right you are, HI - I like Giles' reaction: He would not yield, and he would not fight, though the King challenged him to single combat there and then. Sheer stubbornness can be wonderful when used wisely!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Mr. Wizard? Your turn!

[HerenIstarion]

Mea Culpa! Forgot about this one

May I present you with the movie contrived excuse of (to be pronounced solemnly): wizard is never late!... :)

anyway, to mend affairs, here is the next one:

Nay, let him alone! Or we'll lose the way

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Time to answer this one and get the thread moving again! It's Tídwald, speaking to Torhthelm in The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son.

[HerenIstarion]

Right you are, your ladyship. Pray proceed

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Let's see if this quote is a prophetic statement: You'll never find it out

[HerenIstarion]

Ah, I already did :p

That was Man in the Moon to Rover, concerning children dreaming, that is, they were dreaming, but Rover saw them playing in the precipice on the moon, and he knew not that they traveled there in their sleep

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Very close, HI, but not quite - that quote is missing the little word "it". Try elsewhere...

[HerenIstarion]

does it? hum-m, ha-ss-sty, that's the word. Another go should require some more scanning, than :)

[HerenIstarion]

It must be it, this time:

Inside their secret house, there they sat a-mumbling:
'Ho, Tom Bombadil' Where have you come tumbling,
bursting in the front-door? Badger-folk have caught you.
You'll never find it out, the way that we have brought you!

i.e. Badgers to Tom Bombadil

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Correct quote, correct speakers! Next one's yours, HI.

[HerenIstarion]

Thank you :)

next one, than:

But where, my lad, in the Shire was that? Or out in Bree?

[Morsul the Dark]

tom bombadil
adventures of tom bombadil

[HerenIstarion]

correct book, wrong speaker(s) :) Take it a little bit further, and you have it

[Morsul the Dark]

you know i know nothing of that book except that tom bombadil was in it. the only other charactor i know of connected to tom is goldberry

is it goldberry?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

It's the People, asking Perry-the-Winkle where he had tea.

[HerenIstarion]

Ah, Morsul, it's a good read you're missing. Try to obtain it, it is highly
recommended :)

Yes, Estelyn, you've got it. Take it over :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

This quote could well apply to Tolkien's minor works: ...very useful indeed...

[Guinevere]

:) "It is proving very useful indeed," said the Second Voice "As a holyday and a refreshment."
to the First Voice, about Niggle's Parish.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's right, Guinevere! Now you can puzzle us with a new one...

[Guinevere]

Thank you!
"I oughtn't to be here, really."... I have so much work to do in real life :p

[Estelyn Telcontar]

'Twould be a shame if you weren't, Guinevere! 'This is grand!' he said. 'I oughtn't to be here, really. Thank you for putting in a word for me.' Parish is the speaker, Niggle the one he thanks, both having learned to appreciate each other in the afterlife. (Leaf by Niggle)

[Guinevere]

Your turn again.
(btw, have you looked at the "Quotes in other languages thread" lately? nobody seems to want to solve my German quote! :( )

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here are words that could apply to our Barrow: It's dark and cold.

(Guinevere, I recognize that quote on the other thread, though I'd have to search for the exact location. But what do I do then? German and English are my only languages, so I couldn't contribute anything different...)

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

For 'tis he, to the long-suffering Tídwald in The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth, Beorhthelm's Son:Hey! what a bump, Tida! My bones are shaken,
and my dream shattered. It's dark and cold.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You got it, Squatter! Proceed at will.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Whence came this insight?

the large slow oddity of cows

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I found it! It's in Mythopoeia, which is spoken by Philomythus to Misomythus. He tells of creation: The movements of the sea, the wind in boughs,
green grass, the large slow oddity of cows...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's the fellow.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a quote that might apply to other threads, but of course never to this one! ;) Stop this NONSENSE!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That sounds autothalassic enough to be the Great Sea Serpent, complaining about Artaxerxes' failed attempts to control his movements. Of course, the Mer-people demand exactly the same thing of their king en masse, but I don't think that they do it in block capitals. In either case, Roverandom is the work in question.

[HerenIstarion]

That'd be merfolk, as they urged Mr Arterxaxes, I mean Ertaxarxes, oh, whatever (that is not Rover only to have problems with spelling of his name, you see ;)) to come out and 'do something' about Sea-Serpent

On the other hand, that may be Sea-Serpent itself, as it tried to make Mr Ataxerxexexs stop doing abovementioned 'something', that is, mighty spell of his, causing insomnia in Serpent

edit: Cross-poster here, Squatter :). You have 7 minutes in your favour, so take it away as Esty confirms it (that is, I do believe it is pretty safe bet we've got correct answers)

BTW, what does 'autothalassic' stand for?

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Too slow, Heren. You have to type quicker than that to beat me. :D

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Indeed, it was the Sea-Serpent who shouted it - all caps would have been bad etiquette on the internet... Take it away, Squatter!

[HerenIstarion]

er, do my eyes deceive me, or did you merge two 'minor' threads back to one? Only it was some 4 or 5 pages long, and now it is 15...

[The Saucepan Man]

er, do my eyes deceive me, or did you merge two 'minor' threads back to one? Yup (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=10789)

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I feel that the following quotation is appropriate here.You seem surprised

[Guinevere]

Well, I was certainly surprised about the sudden increase of the number of pages, too!

But the quote is Chrysophylax speaking to Giles:
"Good morning!" said the dragon. "You seem surprised."
"Good morning!" said Giles. "I am that."
A very polite dragon! ;)

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

The very fellow, Guinevere. Of course, Chrysophylax is the true hero of that story.

[Guinevere]

thank you, dear Squatter! :)
No one knew but me. ( ...or at least I was the the first to post ;) )

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Alf, the King of Faerie, to the eponymous hero in Smith of Wootton Major.

'I did not know that,' said the smith.
'No one knew but me. I was the only one with him.'

[Guinevere]

Exactly! :)

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Perhaps this one's too easy, but I like it.When morning comes, it'll be much like others

[Estelyn Telcontar]

This one was easy to find, if only because of the fact that I checked your favorite minor work first! ;) A dreary comment by Tídwald to Torhthelm in The Homecoming...: It's night right enough; but there's no firelight:
dark is over all, and dead is master.
When morning comes, it'll be much like others:
more labour and loss till the land's ruined;
ever work and war till the world passes.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Certainly is.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I expect it will turn out all right. I hope so!

[Mariska Greenleaf]

That was the Master Cook to his apprentice Alf:

"Goodbye for now, Alf," he said. "I leave you to manage things as best you can, which is always very well. I expect it will turn out all right. If we meet again, I hope to hear all about it. Tell them that I've gone on another holiday, but this time I shan't be coming back again."

Sounds familiar... ;)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's the person, Mariska! I do hope that the end of the passage doesn't apply to those who are on vacation from this thread!

[Mariska Greenleaf]

I do hope that the end of the passage doesn't apply to those who are on vacation from this thread!
indeed!


I hate cruelty...

Good luck on the new one.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's Andrew Lang, the Victorian philologist and compiler of variously coloured Fairy Books. Tolkien quotes him in On Fairy-Stories on the subject of mercy and justice in the realm of Faerie.Andrew Lang was confused on this point. He was at pains to defend the slaying of the Yellow Dwarf by Prince Ricardo in one of his own fairy-stories. 'I hate cruelty,' he said, '...but that was in a fair fight, sword in hand, and the dwarf, peace to his ashes! died in harness.'

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Needless to say, that you are absolutely right, Mister Squatter!

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

What have you got there? What indeed?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Caudimordax, a nice big sword with a history, lineage and engravings! Only Tailbiter, that was given to me by the King. Chrysophylax asked, and the title hero, Farmer Giles of Ham, answered.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's right.

I've been getting complaints lately that Tolkien's characters have great swords practically dropped into their laps, whereas mine have to put up with all sorts of inconvenient eccentricities. Mind you, I'm still writing the plot for the character in question, and I might decide that he'd be more interesting dead.

'Indeed, Master. You have my most humble gratitude for this, the greatest blade yet borne by any hero who is me.'

Sarcastic, but it'll do. Now shut up and smoke your pipe until I need you. And bear in mind that I never wrote Windósil out of the narrative.

'I hate you'

That is a perfect way to start.

What was I saying again?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well, be it sword, swordsman/woman or whatever, perhaps it could be said of them: a strange fate is on him

[HerenIstarion]

whatever in this case, or a doggy (sea doggy, to be precise). That'd be merdog, under the name of Rover, first of the name, as his first master's sailors said about him:

And a strange fate is on him, that turns never home

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes, you got it completely right! That was a quote within a quote, a bit tricky, I must admit.

[HerenIstarion]

Thank you :)

Next one up:

Are you going my way

[Guinevere]

Ah, that's Alf to Smith, when he comes back from Faery after the meeting with the Queen.
"Are you going my way, Starbrow?"

[HerenIstarion]

precisely :)

you serve

[Guinevere]

Thank you :) I am sorry for you

[HerenIstarion]

Tidwald to Torhthelm:

I have cares of my own
in my heart, Totta, and my head's weary.
I am sorry for you, and for myself also.
Sleep, lad, then! Sleep!

good advice, for one as sleepy as I'm now

*H-I yawns politely covering his mouth with enormous peacock-feather fan...

[Guinevere]

:D Correct, of course, Heren Istarion. Please proceed.

[HerenIstarion]

:)


Dear me! dear me!

[Mariska Greenleaf]

That was Chrysophylax to Giles, in Farmer Giles of Ham.

"Dear me! Dear me!", said the dragon, "I shall be ruined!"

[HerenIstarion]

spot on! proceed :)

[Mariska Greenleaf]

thanks!

I can hear something.

[Guinevere]

That might be Tídwald ...

Thorhthelm: Then listen Tída! There are low voices, moans and mutterings, and mumbled laughter. They are moving hither.
Tídwald: Yes, I mark it now, I can hear something.

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Good answer. You may proceed, MyLady! ;)

[Guinevere]

Thank you Mariska!
What do you hang back for?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That was the King, speaking to his men-at-arms after Farmer Giles of Ham demanded his crown. (And the answer to his question was Chrysophylax...)

[Guinevere]

Yes, exactly! :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Try this one: I am stiff lying here

[Mariska Greenleaf]

That was Tom Bombadil to Old Man Willow, when he had captured Tom:

"You let me out again, Old Man Willow!
I am stiff lying here; there no sort of pillow,..."

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I'm sure the hobbits would agree with Tom that it was an uncomfortable bed! Right you are, Mariska - go ahead!

[Mariska Greenleaf]

I'm sure they would agree on that!

Next one:

Owls are omens.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's Torhthelm speaking to Tídwald in The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son: An ill boding. Owls are omens. But I'm not afraid, not of fancied fears.

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Exactly! :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

...you have the last word. Not on this thread though! ;)

[HerenIstarion]

First Voice (Justice) to Second Voice (Mercy) in Leaf By Niggle, as the debate concerning Niggle's further fate was concluded.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Excellent, Heren! Nice to have you back on this thread, which has been sleeping rather soundly lately... You're next!

[HerenIstarion]

Since the work performed is evaluated as 'excellent', I now request that you:

come bring to me my fee

;)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That has to be the Corrigan, in The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun - I don't remember any other mentions of a fee in a minor work.

[HerenIstarion]

Indeed, that was Corrigan. And that was real fast! Take it away :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

OK, taking it away then: Let's get away from this first!

[HerenIstarion]

Sounds a bit like Moon Rover to Roverandom concerning 'getting outta this cave' issue, as they strayed into White Dragon's lair. Can't bet on it though - no books handy at the moment :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Right book, wrong speaker, wrong location...

[HerenIstarion]

Finally - that was Mr Artaxerxes, in answer to Roverandom's plea to turn him (Roverandom) back to normal, for he (Artaxerxes) was too busy collecting his stuff and things - being just cast from the PAM office :). The back-turning procedure thus was postponed till they 'got away from this' - i.e. the sea.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Bingo, HI! Your turn next!

[HerenIstarion]

next one:

We did not give him enough time

[HerenIstarion]

him was sworn into bringing ransom to we

[Estelyn Telcontar]

After more than enough time...

The villagers in Farmer Giles of Ham, speaking of the dragon Chrysophylax.

[HerenIstarion]

Yes, of course :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a new one, or something similar... At least it looks like it.

[HerenIstarion]

Nokes to Prentice, when the latter was showing him the Star returned to the box it came from

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Correct, HI - go ahead with another!

[HerenIstarion]

next one:

Such a lot of disturbance, just at my best time for sleeping

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That sounds like Psamathos Psamathides, from Roverandom, though I haven't looked it up yet.

[HerenIstarion]

Him indeed. Though it was not direct quote - Man in the Moon was reading Psamathos' letter to Roverandom, I count the answer as correct :) Carry it on to new heights :D

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here we go: What do you want?

[Guinevere]

Good heavens! How come I didn't see that before now ?
It's Torthelm speaking to Tídwald - right at the beginning of The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth:
"Halt! What do you want? Hell take you! Speak!"

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Actually, I was looking for a different reference, but since that is a correct quote in a minor work, you are entitled to go ahead with a new one, Guinevere!

[Guinevere]

I wasn't able to spot any other "what do you want?" :confused:
But I found a nice "proverb"... ;) The artful don't know all the arts, they say

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Oh, that one I know - it's Nokes, speaking to Prentice in Smith of Wootton Major!

PS - The other "what do you want" is in a poetic minor work...

[Guinevere]

(and, btw, I found the other "What do you want?" quote : it's the drowsy cook in "The man in the moon came down too soon". :D )

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well done, Guinevere! Yes, that's the quote I had in mind. Now for a new one: I shall go back home.

[HerenIstarion]

King of Faery, at one time known as Alf the Prentice, to the children at his last Feast at the position of Master Cook, as he was about to resign from said position.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's right, HI - you have the floor!

[HerenIstarion]

thank you. Next one up:

There isn't any armour in this house, and that's a fact

[Guinevere]

Farmer Giles to the crowd of people who want to persuade him to go dragon-hunting.

[HerenIstarion]

yup :)

[Guinevere]

Thank you, H-I !
I would be with the mariners...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I've been puzzling over this one, Guinevere - it sounds like a line of poetry, but I couldn't find it in the Tom Bombadil poems. Could you give a little clue, please?

[Guinevere]

You're right, it is indeed from a poem... and not one of the Tom Bombadil poems.
The full line is : I would be with the mariners of the deep
If that doesn't help, I'll give the next line as well.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Of course! The rhythm of the complete line helped me recognize the source. It's Philomythus speaking to Misomythus in 'Mythopoeia': I would that I might with the minstrels sing
and stir the unseen with a throbbing string.
I would be with the mariners of the deep
that cut their slender planks on mountains steep
and voyage upon a vague and wandering quest,
for some have passed beyond the fabled West. Wonderful lines!!

[Guinevere]

That's it, Esty ! I love this poem, too.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's a new quote, nothing fancy: It's only plain language.

[Guinevere]

Found it at last: it is Tídwald speaking to Totta.
(after having suggested to Totta to use Beorhtnoth's body as a pillow, Totta calls Tídwald a brute.)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

She's got it! By Jove, she's got it! Well done, Guinevere. Pray proceed.

[Guinevere]

thank you, Estelyn! :) Here is another quote (rather proverb-like ;) )

Least said, soonest mended; or patched.

If it's too short, I can add a bit more.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's an interesting quote - it has both a figurative and a literal meaning in that context. Artaxerxes is speaking to Roverandom.

[Guinevere]

http://www.travar.de/Templates/Webprojekt/images/luxhello.gifExactly!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Looking for fellowship: I must go and find a friend

[Guinevere]

http://www.travar.de/Templates/Webprojekt/images/idea.gif
The lonely Troll in "Perry-the-Winkle" thinks this, before setting out to the Shire.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's the one, Guinevere! A new one, please...

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Esty! :)
And now , something that I've lately been wondering about here in this thread:Why are we alone?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You must have felt completely alone the past week, Guinevere! I'm back now and pondering this quote, so I hope to have an answer for you soon...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

It's Smith of Wootton Major speaking to his son Ned. (Everyone else was at a birthday party...)

[Guinevere]

Yes, well done, Esty!
(And where is everyone else here ? Well, at least I found out why HI is preoccupied lately... ;) )

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Indeed, our esteemed minor works expert appears to have better things to do...

Well, here's a call for assistance: Help me with this one!

[HerenIstarion]

Indeed, our esteemed minor works expert appears to have better things to do

Whom are you calling an 'expert', m'am? I'm a decent chap yer ladyship very well knows, ain't some trifle-picker, I am! Here you are, calling for s'stance, and just as me turns up to help, as I'm always ready, calling me names! I'm hurt, yer ladyship, that's what I am and no mistake!

The sentence you are after being said by Tidwald to Torhthelm, as they heave the bodies of the fallen in search of their Master, Beorhtnoth.

(and I've found who was who's nephew, look in trivia ;))

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Precisely, HI - and what's so bad about being called an expert?? Your turn.

[HerenIstarion]

and what's so bad about being called an expert

Nothing, really. Contrary, it's flattering :D Just I'm through my Pratchett (again), and the Mended Drum talk rubbed in on me a bit (Mended (formerly Broken) Drum being an infamous inn where people go to have scuffles. But good manners should be remembered, so it always starts with 'whom are you calling a [instert a word with tiny foreign flavour to it, like 'expert' per instance], pal?' kind of a prelude. Not that I was intendind to have scuffle with anyone, just 'expert' caught ear in a MD way :D)

Next one:

To thy grim tool now take heed, sir!
Let us try thy knocks today!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That quote sounded so unfamiliar that I thought it could only be in a minor work I've not yet read. So I dug out my copy of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, and sure enough! I found it. It's the Green Knight, speaking to Sir Gawain.

[HerenIstarion]

Quite correct. The floor is yours, my lady :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here's an easy one, but I found it amusing in the light of the time *some* of us spend here... ;) What does he do with himself all day?

[Guinevere]

:) That is Roverandom to Rover, about the Man-in-the-Moon.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Absolutely right - you're next, Guinevere!

[Guinevere]

Thank you!It might and it might not.

[HerenIstarion]

A hint, maybe? :)

[Guinevere]

Oops, I had nearly forgotten myself where this quote comes from! ;)

Part of the sentence that is said before that : "It might make it easier for me (........)"
And the answer is "It might and it might not. We shall see."

[Estelyn Telcontar]

It is Alf Prentice, the Master Cook, speaking in answer to Smith of Wootton Major.

[Guinevere]

That's the one, Esty ! :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

This one sounds like a dormant thread. ;) Why do none speak...?

[The Elf-warrior]

Is it from The Sea Bell?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

It is indeed from 'The Sea-Bell', and since the speaker is first person, unnamed, that answer is all I was looking for. Welcome to this thread, The Elf-warrior - now it's your turn to puzzle us with a new quote!

[The Elf-warrior]

Penny-wise tub-on-legs!

[Guinevere]

what a nice name for a friend! ;)

It's Tom Bombadil speaking to Farmer Maggot, in "Bombadil goes boating"

[The Elf-warrior]

Correct!

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Elf-warrior!
"Who do you think you're talking to?"

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Why, to you, of course! ;)

This quote comes from Smith of Wootton Major and is spoken by Nokes to Prentice. If he'd only known who Alf really was!

[Guinevere]

That's the one, Esty! :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

No news is bad news. True on a dormant thread...

[Guinevere]

Oh, a proverb! :)
This is said by the gloomy Blacksmith (also known as "Sunny Sam" :D ) when there was no news from Farmer Giles, after he had gone dragon-hunting with the knights.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes indeed, Guinevere! I always chuckle over the way Tolkien characterizes him - at the above statement he bursts into song, says "A bad omen" cheerfully, and calls Hilarius and Felix "ominous names"! :D

[Guinevere]

:) "Thank you! That'll do nicely!"

[HerenIstarion]

A hint, maybe?

[Guinevere]

My goodness, I had nearly forgotten that one.

It is said by one of your order, Heren Istarion! ;)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Then it must have been said by Gandalf - he's the only one who would say those polite words! ;)

On second thought, Gandalf is nowhere to be found in the minor works - let's see, a wizard? Oh, it's Artaxerxes, doing his magic on Roverandom!

[Guinevere]

and I'm not quite sure to whom he says "Thank you!" - to the magic bag perhaps ? ;)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Always good advice: Look where you're going!

[Guinevere]

Tídwald says that to Totta, while they are carrying Beorhtnoth's body.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes, Guinevere - excellent!

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Esty!
Trouble yourself no further.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That was spoken by a stranger, at least at the moment of speaking, to 'Starbrow', that is Smith of Wootton Major, on his last trip home from Faery. The speaker was, of course, Alf Prentice - actually, the King of Faery.

[Guinevere]

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That's it! Well done, Esty!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Try this one for size: My house is far too small

[Estelyn Telcontar]

...up in hopes of finding a taker...

[Guinevere]

The lonely Troll (from "Perry-the-Winkle") to the people clamouring for cramsome cake etc. at his door in the hills of Faraway.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's the one, Guinevere! The floor's yours...

[Guinevere]

Don't take this one personally!
"Ridiculous nonsense!"

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Oh, as it's spoken to a male by his wife, I'm sure this applies only to men! ;) It's Mrs Artaxerxes, to her husband in Roverandom. 'Ridiculous nonsense! ' said Mrs Artaxerxes. 'Nice kind wizard, indeed! There is no nice or kind or wizard about it, if you don't give the little dog back his shape and size at once - and what's more I shall go back to the bottom of the Deep Blue Sea, and never come back to you again.' Where would those men be without the women to push them in the right direction?! :p

[Guinevere]

Correct, of course! :D (I love your comments!)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Good advice: Don't stand there arguing! It's much nicer to argue sitting down! ;)

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

That's Farmer Giles' wife, Agatha, berating her husband at the beginning of Farmer Giles of Ham.

'Don't stand there arguing!' said she. 'If you believe the dog, then take his advice: be bold and quick!'

Good advice, but nevertheless a change of subject by someone who feels she's losing the argument. 'Don't stand there arguing with me' is definitely implied.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Right you are, Squatter - at least concerning the speaker of the quote! ;) As to who's losing the argument...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Well, rather than sit here arguing, here's another bit of kindling for the fire.

their master's been and drowned his wits

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's the ostler, speaking of the Man in the Moon: The ostler said to his tipsy cat:
'The white horses of the Moon,
They neigh and champ their silver bits;
But their master's been and drowned his wits,
and the Sun'll be rising soon!'

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Indeed so. Your turn again, Estelyn.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Can't argue with this: a star's a star

[HerenIstarion]

Noakes to Alf? (Final conversation with the King about who swallowed the star?)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I was hoping someone would think that, but it's a false trail, HI. ;) Try again!

[Guinevere]

It must be Philomythus to Misomythus :

a star's a star. some matter in a ball
compelled to courses mathematical

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes, you have it, Guinevere! Next one's yours...

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Esty. :) The next quote is obviously not directed at you...
And you can talk your beard off.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Time to answer this one! It's Hobbits, if I interpret "the little folk of Hays-end and Breredon" correctly, speaking to Tom Bombadil in his Adventures.

[Guinevere]

Correct, Esty! :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Here is a new quote - wise is s/he who knows and admits this! I need help and advice

[Guinevere]

It doesn't look like any one else is interested in solving that one, so I'll do it:

It's Niggle, inside his picture, realizing he wants Parish to join him.
"This place cannot be left just as my private park. I need help and advice: I ought to have got it sooner."

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I'm glad you did! Eagerly looking forward to a new quote...

[Guinevere]

tonight you could say that to me:
How tired you look!

[HerenIstarion]

Must have been Smith's son upon Smith's return from his last journey, as he gave up the Star

(It took us long, so hopefully you are rested now :))

[Guinevere]

Yes, that's Ned.

[HerenIstarion]

Well, next up:

Knock off! Complete rest—in the dark

[Estelyn Telcontar]

That's the doctor in the afterlife, speaking to Niggle.

[HerenIstarion]

Yes, indeed. The floor is yours, m'am :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Ridiculous nonsense! Not meaning anything we post here, of course...

[HerenIstarion]

Mrs. Artaxerxes, telling Mr. Artaxerxes off for turning Rover into a toy, or rather for not turning him back into a dog

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yep! It's all yours!

[HerenIstarion]

Next up:

'I steal no gold, I drink no beer, I eat no kind of meat

Poor soul...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

I think that's the Lonely Troll to Perry the Winkle in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil. Was your choice of source by any chance inspired by Fordim's new poll?

[HerenIstarion]

Quote re: Right you are Sir!
Poll re: No, Sir, haven't seen one yet, going to right away

The floor is yours :)


Edit: Ah, I mistook you! I thought there was some new poll about with beer an meet and pipe-weed in, and seemingly you meant one about Bombadil. No, the quote was rather inspired by hunger for meat and thirst for beer I'm doomed to be starved and parched with until the office hours are over...

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Well, I can only hope that you've had a chance to eat and drink since you posted that. No-one should quiz on an empty stomach.

You will hear from us later

And the sooner you find the quotation, the sooner you'll hear from me.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Not too late yet, I hope...

The quote comes from Farmer Giles of Ham and is spoken to Giles by the King. Did you expect his full name as the answer? :eek:

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

Naturally I'd like his full name. You are, of course, correct, though.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

OK, you want it, you get it!

Augustus Bonifacius Ambrosius Aurelianus Antoninus Pius et Magnificus, dux rex, et Basileus Mediterranearum Partium. And he spoke to Aegidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo. There! All hand-typed! :p

New quote: Where have you been?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

What an appropriate quote - is anyone here to find it? (I'll have to search for the source myself - I put my books away over the holidays, and can't remember where it was. ;) )

[Guinevere]

Ok, then I'll solve it. :)

It's Smith's little girl, greeting her father at his return from faerie:

"Daddy!" she cried. "Where have you been? Your star is shining bright."