Reputations

[Neithan]

I guess it may because I had a certain type of British upbringing but I feel it is as vulgar as bragging about how rich you are..... and by quantifying it in such precise terms it does make it seem very competitive.
Well I am a hyper-competitive person by nature, and I see nothing wrong with taking pride in your accomplishments, whether it is a fortune you have earned or the rep points for your good posting. I think competition can be a good thing, it encourages better posts. However, I see your point. You don't come here to compete with your fellow downers and don't want it to turn into that kind of environment (completely understandable).
Which leads me to wonder whether it's a common occurrence for people to accidentally click on "disapprove" instead of "approve" (or viece versa).
I havn't had that happen to me but I always double check when I give posts so that I don't do it to someone else. Also I always sign my posts so that if I do do it then the person can contact me.

Yes well done Fordim.

[Lalwendë]

Maybe should substitute James cook and Charles Clerke for Hillary and Tensing....

I presume you don't mean our beloved *cough* Home Secretary? ;) I'm not sure that would be a compliment...

Well, I was thinking more in terms of Max and Paddy off on their road trip to Valinor in a camper van. And that is a compliment! ;)

Where to after this though...?

[Mithalwen]

Well I am a hyper-competitive person by nature, and I see nothing wrong with taking pride in your accomplishments, whether it is a fortune you have earned or the rep points for your good posting. I think competition can be a good thing, it encourages better posts. However, I see your point. You don't come here to compete with your fellow downers and don't want it to turn into that kind of environment (completely understandable).




I am not saying it is wrong to acheive - you just don't have to ram things down people's throats .... like the Harry Enfield character who spends his life saying "I can't help noticing that I am considerably richer than you...". He may be rich but he is a LOMBARD and everyone hates him........

[Boromir88]

I think a congrats are in order for Fordhim, but beware Mr. Hedgethistle, any wrong immoral slip up could get you knocked off the straight road. ;)

[Mithalwen]

I think a congrats are in order for Fordhim, but beware Mr. Hedgethistle, any wrong immoral slip up could get you knocked off the straight road. ;)

And then he would end up back in North America.... :rolleyes:

[Lhunardawen]

Don't forget to ask for directions, Fordim! No chance risking you being lost!

[Mithalwen]

I presume you don't mean our beloved *cough* Home Secretary? ;) I'm not sure that would be a compliment...

Well, I was thinking more in terms of Max and Paddy off on their road trip to Valinor in a camper van. And that is a compliment! ;)

Where to after this though...?


No because that would be Charles Clarke who is definitely not a hero of mine whereas Charles Clerke is... despite the fact that I find most sailors to be the most boring people in the universe ( a little unfortunate given my location :D)

[Lalwendë]

No because that would be Charles Clarke who is definitely not a hero of mine whereas Charles Clerke is... despite the fact that I find most sailors to be the most boring people in the universe ( a little unfortunate given my location )

Thank goodness for that! All is right with the world again... But I shall resist making any comments about sailors, this being family friendly and all that. ;)

[Mithalwen]

I mean the yottie type rather than members of the senior service ...... although I did spend 3 years in Portsmouth..... in Freshers week we were officially warned off .... apparently for their safety .... :rolleyes: but this is very off topic....

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

In the interests of full disclosure, not to mention common courtesy, I should point out that it was the Saucepan Man himself who set me off on the Straight Road by repping a relatively fluffy post that he found amusing. :smokin:

Poetically perfect and entirely suitable to the Downs: I made Saucie laugh, and he sent me to the Blessed Realm! :D

Has it been determined that 11 shinies is the end-point? Have I nothing left to strive for? :eek:

[Mithalwen]

Maybe this is a tactical and machiavellian move on the part of the Pan-man.... sending someone out to blaze a trail into uncharted territory...

[The Saucepan Man]

In the interests of full disclosure, not to mention common courtesy, I should point out that it was the Saucepan Man himself who set me off on the Straight Road by repping a relatively fluffy post that he found amusing. Darn. If only I'd kno ... er ... you are of course most welcome, Professor, and best wishes for your forthcoming intrepid voyage. I hear that Captain Cirkdan and his motley crew are the best in the business for boldly taking you where no Wight has gone before ... ;)


Maybe this is a tactical and machiavellian move on the part of the Pan-man.... sending someone out to blaze a trail into uncharted territory...As if such a devious thought would enter my mind. I am but a Saucepan Man of little brain. Mind you, being detained at Elrond's Council (and deservedly so), I am fully expecting davem to overtake me any minute. If Fordim don't find the pitfalls on the Straight road, he's sure to. :eek: ;)

By the way, I'm glad that misunderstanding over Charles Clarke/Clerke was cleared up. I would be most upset to be associated with any current politician of any description.

[Mithalwen]

As if such a devious thought would enter my mind. I am but a Saucepan Man of little brain. Mind you, being detained at Elrond's Council (and deservedly so), I am fully expecting davem to overtake me any minute. If Fordim don't find the pitfalls on the Straight road, he's sure to. :eek: ;)

By the way, I'm glad that misunderstanding over Charles Clarke/Clerke was cleared up. I would be most upset to be associated with any current politician of any description.

But Saucepan man you have admitted to being a lawyer....

To be compared with Clerke is an honour - I was rereading some of my research on him this morning - he was a man of great wit and humour combined with "an open and generous disposition", who nevertheless endeavoured to do his duty even at the eventual expense of his own life. So more or less the opposite of just about any politician I can think of....

[Lalwendë]

To be compared with Clerke is an honour - I was rereading some of my research on him this morning - he was a man of great wit and humour combined with "an open and generous disposition", who nevertheless endeavoured to do his duty even at the eventual expense of his own life.

*puts on official head* But this also describes Clarke, don't you know? ;)



Yes, I do have an 'official head', much in the manner of Worzel Gummidge...

[Mithalwen]

*puts on official head* But this also describes Clarke, don't you know? ;)



Yes, I do have an 'official head', much in the manner of Worzel Gummidge...


*chokes* I think not ... I would quote cummings but it might not pass the censor...

[Assasin]

I've only gotten one negative rep. I don't know who it's from though. I have four positive ones though.
L8er

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I've discovered the awesomeness of someone repping an "old" post. See, usually I can guess accurately which posts of mine will receive reppings, and so if I feel like an ego boost, I'll go post an incredibly smart or funny sounding (haha) something, and check back in awhile. But I got repped for a post I'd written a few months ago. I was just like :eek: because it was such a welcome surprise to know that I'm not the only one who likes old threads. It feels some days that if a thread leaves page one it's officially dead.

Fea

[Eruanna]

I have recently returned to the Barrow Downs after a prolonged absence and I find I have a question about Reputations.
I think that I understand the system (after reading this thread) but I would like to know if it is deemed 'correct etiquette' to thank those who have kindly awarded me points? I should hate to be seen as ungrateful, yet a thread entirely devoted to 'Thank-you' speeches seems inappropriate.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I've had the same problem, Eruanna! I've always felt like I should... I don't know... PM anyone who is nice enough to positively comment on my stuff and say thanks. But then I noticed that nobody else does it (at least not to me), so I figured I'd appreciate each comment and hope that was good enough.

[Encaitare]

I think that the best way to acknowledge a rep is to make a mental note to return the favor at some point later, assuming that it's merited, of course.

[Boromir88]

I've only gotten one negative rep. I don't know who it's from though. I have four positive ones though.
That has been one of my bigger grievances, if someone gives a negative rep, be "brave" enough to leave your name. The couple I have gotten only one has left their name (and I don't think I've given him a negative rep yet obviously because he doesn't deserve it). The others not only didn't leave their name, but some didn't even give an explanation. I don't hold grudges, and from what I've seen on the downs, nobody holds grudges.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I'm a little rep-trigger happy. Most of the time I manage to get off a comment and signature, but at least ten times I've had a finger slip and repped before commenting or with only half a comment there. Ironically, I've only given one or two bad reps, and at least one of them had this happen. *blush* So it can happen by accident...

But it wasn't you Boromir. At least not in my case.

[Lalwendë]

And a warm welcome to Boromir88 on his arrival in Rivendell! Luckily Fordim wasn't here too long so there's still plenty of the old Gondorian single malt. Don't spend too long at the bar though, as SpM, davem and H-I could do with a hand with all that washing up, weaving and sweeping. I hear it's really hard work cleaning up after us ladies. ;)

[Mithalwen]

You three girls have been trashing the place then? I don't know.... Meanwhile back in Gondor .... some of us are having trouble sleeping due to the incesssant screaming from Eomer's fangirls outside..... :p

[The Saucepan Man]

Don't spend too long at the bar though, as SpM, davem and H-I could do with a hand with all that washing up, weaving and sweeping.You'll not catch me undertaking any of those activities 'til Fangorn forest do come to Orthanc ... er ... wait a moment ... :eek:

[Mithalwen]

You'll not catch me undertaking any of those activities 'til Fangorn forest do come to Orthanc ... er ... wait a moment ... :eek:

Oh well I am sure the elves will lend you some marigolds.... and maybe a loom ... and if you are really lucky they might teach you embroidery, hair braiding or macrame.. :D

[Lalwendë]

Oh well I am sure the elves will lend you some marigolds

You'll not catch me undertaking any of those activities 'til Fangorn forest do come to Orthanc ... er ... wait a moment ...

Elves don't use marigolds. Their hands are so dleicate that they merely skim the water in an ethereal fashion and hey presto, the washing up is done. Well, Elrond does actually have some fetching pink marigolds. And enough of this chatter anyway, while its been going on I'm still waiting for that cup of tea I was promised... ;)

[The Saucepan Man]

You mean, I can't give reputation points to anybody???? I've not been around for a year, I don't have 1000 posts and I don't have 100 reputation points of my own -- so I'm a zero?How things change! This from the man who has now found the Straight Road ...


Fordim, at the rate you are going you should have 100 reputations points soon. Your good conversation is going to give you weight!Indeed :smokin:

[mark12_30]

You three girls have been trashing the place then? I don't know.... Meanwhile back in Gondor .... some of us are having trouble sleeping due to the incesssant screaming from Eomer's fangirls outside..... :p

Poor things, so terribly distressed and distraught over Heren-Istarion's announcement, and wailing themselves hoarse! Really quite sad for them.

But I suppose they'll cheer up on Eomer's trail. Nice of you to distract them, old chap.

[Mithalwen]

Well, Elrond does actually have some fetching pink marigolds.


I am reliably informed those are not marigolds - rather full length evening gloves - even the wisest of elf lords need to let their hair down sometimes...... or tuck it under a wig...

http://members.lycos.co.uk/webweaving/pris_duo.jpg

So should there be a stewards' enquiry into Fordim's change of form or is her merely going to be swot of the year ;)

[Mithalwen]

Poor things, so terribly distressed and distraught over Heren-Istation's announcement, and wailing themselves hoarse! Really quite sad for them.

But I suppose they'll cheer up on Eomer's trail. Nice of you to distract them, old chap.


Actually Helen, I think that is a different troupe who have already decamped to add their tears to the waters of the Bruinen. Don't persuade them to transfer their affections to Eomer or the volume will be deafening..... Eomermania... :rolleyes:

[Boromir88]

Thankyou for the welcome Lal. I would have responded earlier but my labtop ran out of power, and I didn't bring the recharger, but now I'm hear? Where's my room? Someone get my suitcases! Escort me to my seat! (Don't you wish that you could take those rep points back now?) :rolleyes: :p

[Carnimírië]

How things change! This from the man who has now found the Straight Road ...
Congratulations on your find Fordim! Can't get much better than the Undying Lands...

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

Thank you very much Carnimírië, and all the others who have wished me well, but I must say that it is at present somewhat lonely on this ship into the West. Cirdan is nice and all, but somewhat gloomy. Frankly, I can't wait for Saucy to come aboard so he and I can liven things up.

For the time being, I shall recline in a deck chair and sip cocktails. Perhaps I can get some reading done before things get too crowded hereabouts. . .

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

We could always solve your lonliness by bumping you right back to Rivendell, you know. *evil grin*

I wouldn't worry though, I suspect Saucy and davem will be joining you shortly.

Sophe

[Lhunardawen]

Boromir88 has a place at the council of Elrond
Now I hear someone say, "This isn't Osgiliath..."

:p

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

My apologies for bringing debauchery to Gondor.

[Mithalwen]

It is OK Eomer ... at my age, I should be grateful for the opportunity ;) ... it is just that the spirit is willing but the flesh can't take the late nights so easily :(

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

My apologies for bringing debauchery to Gondor. (The Only Real Eomer - did I just mix names up??)
That's nothing. I brought two alter-egos to Aragorn's court.

Apparently, Eldarion and Adam are on friendly terms . . . :eek:

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Remember when the Court was such a wonderful place, filled with wisdom and power?

Nilpaurion, we are certainly dragging it to strange new places. :eek:

How long before the Council launches open war upon us?

[Boromir88]

How long before the Council launches open war upon us?
Knowing how much Elladan and Elrohir like to fight, and seeing that orc hunting has become rather scarce it might be difficult to stop them, Eomer. ;)

[Mithalwen]

Remember when the Court was such a wonderful place, filled with wisdom and power?

Well discipline was liable to slip once I became the longest resident downer at court...discipline was never my thing or the teaching might not have been such a disaster ...... think Sargent Wilson crossed with Joyce Grenfell "George ..don't do that.." and as for wisdom and power ... I am here for my skills as court jester ... but there are some mighty people here ...notably Mr Wight himself.... cross him at your peril...

[Neithan]

Congratulations Saucepan for making it to the Straight Road.

[The Saucepan Man]

Why thank you Neithan. :) I knew that it was around here somewhere ...

But I do find it rather ironic that my discovery of the road to the Realm which lies at the heart of Tolkien's world was made courtesy of a rant defending Jackson's efforts to make that world more "relevant and accessible" to the modern film-going public (and of course the kind Downer who responded positively to it despite disagreeing with some of the points made). :D

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I got pushed to a new level posting the opposite opinion on that same thread, Saucy. ;)

But congratulations all the same.

Sophia

[Assasin]

I got a neg. rep for accidentally double posting... that sucked. I also got one for making a geographical mistake. People are so critical.

[Encaitare]

I got a neg. rep for accidentally double posting... that sucked. I also got one for making a geographical mistake. People are so critical.

Rather than getting worked up about it, I would suggest trying harder to make sure that your facts are right. That gets noticed as well, but in a more positive way, of course. Just make sure you don't make the same mistake twice, take it from me. :)

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

Welcome aboard Saucepan Man. Give us a hand with these deck chairs will you? The Steward's just been round taking orders and I took the liberty of asking him to bring you a pint of lager.

(Just make sure Cirdan doesn't see you drinking it -- he's a bit of a teetotaller.)

[Encaitare]

Congrats, Sauce. Enjoy your cruise. :p

[Beleg Cuthalion]

What are you guys doing? Congratulating you selves about your rep points?
http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/think/17.gif http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/think/23.gif

[Mithalwen]

I think they are just getting a bit excited about their trip ... not everyday you get to go to paradise :P ...... what they will do about Lalwende's disinclination to travel overseas I don't know.... ;)

[Mithalwen]

I got a neg. rep for accidentally double posting... that sucked. I also got one for making a geographical mistake. People are so critical.


Seems a little harsh ( especially for the double post ) but it doesn't actually constitute an abuse of the system. Personally, I think that it is more valid to use it for these technical infringements than as a way of punishing people who happen to disagree with you.

On the bright side, you at least got reasons so you shouldn't develop a repetitive fault :) and it may encourage you to raise your game to prove the critics wrong (ie get better not bitter). I assume that the downers who do choose to give neg rep, are intending to be constructive rather than vindictive so try to see it in that light. It is a serious board and sometimes we need a wake up call ( and I say that as a past recipient :( ).

[Ainaserkewen]

Is that it then? Or does the little reputation boxes go on from 11? If they do how far do they go? On and on until though their posts may be only few lines, there is still inches and inches of extra space for all these little green boxes. My goodness! Posters with 11 boxes are a little intimidating! I guess the only thing I know for sure is that you guys are doing something right.

[Beleg Cuthalion]

My goodness! Posters with 11 boxes are a little intimidating! I guess the only thing I know for sure is that you guys are doing something right.

Naaaaaaa. They just threaten everyone with giving them points or facing banishment. :D :D :D


On the more serious side, does the number of points that are added to your rep change randomly?

[Mithalwen]

Naaaaaaa. They just threaten everyone with giving them points or facing banishment. :D :D :D


On the more serious side, does the number of points that are added to your rep change randomly?

It depends on who has given the rep. The formula is explained somewhere in the thread if you look back. Basically the higher your own reputation and the longer you have been here the more points you get. However you have to reach a certain level before you rep has any points attached - otherwise you might create a different ID and rep yourself... :P

[Beleg Cuthalion]

It depends on who has given the rep. The formula is explained somewhere in the thread if you look back. Basically the higher your own reputation and the longer you have been here the more points you get. However you have to reach a certain level before you rep has any points attached - otherwise you might create a different ID and rep yourself... :P

Ooook..Thanks.

Hey I just went up a level! http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/happy/23.gif http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/happy/21.gif

Oh yeah thanks to all who have given me points and encouragement. http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/agree/3.gif

[Neithan]

I see Davem was not far behind Saucy in finding the Straight Road. Congrats!

[Mithalwen]

Yes - it used to be a threeway struggle for the lead but I think Fordim's competitive streak surfaced... ;)

[Lalwendë]

what they will do about Lalwende's disinclination to travel overseas I don't know....

I likes boats. And you don't need to fork out for a passport, neither. Though as I am no Ellen McArthur, a quick pleasure cruise around the Bay of Belfalas would be enough excitement for me. ;)

Can you get Duty Free on the straight path? And if so, how much pipeweed do you get in your allowance?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Well deserved too. :) Enjoy your permanent vacation.

[davem]

Well deserved too. Enjoy your permanent vacation.

Thank you. Don't know if its deserved, but its nice....

[davem]

Thanks, but I still can't understand how I got here.....

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

Welcome aboard davem! I hope you remembered some pipeweed as I utterly neglected to pick some up on my way through the Shire!

[The Saucepan Man]

I hope you remembered some pipeweed as I utterly neglected to pick some up on my way through the Shire!Alas, I suspect that smoking is forbidden in Valleyfornia ... er ... I mean Valinor. :rolleyes:

:smokin:

[Encaitare]

Congrats, davem. :)

You know, I saw a road sign today giving directions for "Straight Path"... I wonder if that's how you really get to Valinor...

Well, I'd like to think so. :p

[HerenIstarion]

You know, I saw a road sign today giving directions for "Straight Path"... I wonder if that's how you really get to Valinor...

If you have a chance of taking a picture of it, pray do so. There is a fun page of ME signs of the main site here (http://www.barrowdowns.com/signs.php), it will fit in nicely, I suppose

cheers :)

[The Only Real Estel]

HI: I'm not sure wether that page is still being operated or not; I sent in a picture of a sign that read Brandywine Rd. a few months ago but it isn't up there yet. So maybe it's not being watched anymore? :confused:

[alatar]

If you don't meet any of these criteria, you add 0 points when giving reputations and are wasting your time.

Could this information be presented elsewhere, such as in the FAQ? I stumbled onto the reputation thing purely by accident, (got excited) thought that I knew what it was doing, then found out here that I was most likely 'wasting my time.'

Thanks.

[Encaitare]

Heren-- I think I may, if I can convince my mother to pull over to the side of the road so I can take a picture of a sign... she'll think I'm nuts. :rolleyes: Or, I could just take one out the window if I timed it right...

Alatar-- It's not exactly a "waste of time" even though some people may not yet be able to give reps. The comments are great to read.

[tar-ancalime]

Alatar,

I don't think it's a waste of time to give points-free reputations--the comments are always appreciated. I posed the question on this thread several pages back, when I had no points to give (I think I have at least one now), whether I should continue to rep people, and several people responded, saying yes, please do!

The only thing you're not doing is adding to the green jewel count, and if the rhetoric is to be believed, that's not REALLY the important part, right folks? ;)

[Imladris]

Could this information be presented elsewhere, such as in the FAQ? I stumbled onto the reputation thing purely by accident, (got excited) thought that I knew what it was doing, then found out here that I was most likely 'wasting my time.'

Thanks.

It's the thought that counts.

[Mithalwen]

I likes boats. And you don't need to fork out for a passport, neither. Though as I am no Ellen McArthur, a quick pleasure cruise around the Bay of Belfalas would be enough excitement for me. ;)

Can you get Duty Free on the straight path? And if so, how much pipeweed do you get in your allowance?

You better go via the Channel Islands, Lal - only place I can think of where you can get Duty Free without a passport ( I spent all summer coping with the suppliers.. :( ). And as for liking boats well .. it depends on the boats.... but I guess Cirdan provides something better than the rusty floating carpark that is the Isle of Wight ferry......

[alatar]

Alatar-- It's not exactly a "waste of time" even though some people may not yet be able to give reps. The comments are great to read.

Just saw that 'quote' in some of the first few posts to this thread, knew that I was guilty of the same and also, technically, I'm a wizard (ouch!) - then said, "Wow! These people foresaw my coming and repping like a mumakil without a driver - how neat is that?"

Just thought that the information might serve better if more easily found. And I too really appreciate the comments/feedback. Haven't figured out a way to get the gems off of the screen and into a gold setting yet...hmm. Anyone have Feanor on speed dial?

[Mithalwen]

Anyone have Feanor on speed dial?


No.. but I do have his fax number... ;)

[Mithalwen]

Congratulations on finding the straight road Lalwende - you never know you might find you get the travel bug after all ...... Albeit rather late if this is indeed the final journey ... or is there a level that puts you on Taniquetil with Manwe and Varda? And if there is I bet that is definitely non smoking ;)

[Lalwendë]

Congratulations on finding the straight road Lalwende - you never know you might find you get the travel bug after all ...... Albeit rather late if this is indeed the final journey ... or is there a level that puts you on Taniquetil with Manwe and Varda? And if there is I bet that is definitely non smoking

I bet it isn't - after all, can you imagine Gandalf relinquishing his pipeweed habit? :smokin:

I'm just wondering when this ship sets sail, I've brought my fishing rod along. ;)

[Mithalwen]

Well it only says you are bound for the Straight Road ... doesn't say when ..... you weren't planning on taking my car again were you?

[Lalwendë]

Did your car come back to you in the end? If I see it wandering free on the Tower Hills then I'll erm, look after it for you. That is, if Cirdan has indeed invented the roll on- roll off ferry. Those huge steel doors might look quite ugly in the swan like prow of an Elven ship. And I can't see him taking kindly to lots of lorry drivers tucking into greasy fry ups on the poop deck, either. ;)

[Mithalwen]

Didn't read post 458 then? That fuel line cost £30 btw ..... should have called the AA who fixed the last one for nada ..... but my Relay service doesn't cover Middle Earth :(

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

'Tis getting positively crowded up on the poop deck! Welcome aboard Lalwende!

It's nice to once again have the feminine touch about the place. No looms here, but I'm sure there's some dusting that needs doing. :eek: :D :p

*Fordim ducks, and scrambles to put on some trousers*

[Lalwendë]

Trousers? What are you doing without trousers? Don't tell me they are creased and I'll have to do the ironing as well as all that dusting? :eek:

What's a 'poop deck' anyway? Is it some obscure term left over from the days of the great ocean liners, when posh ladies used to take their little lap dogs on board?

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

From the Fount of All Wisdom and Knowlege (a.k.a. the OED):

The largest ships of the line had main-deck, middle and lower deck; also the upper or spar-deck, extending from stem to stern over the main-deck, and the orlop deck (which carried no guns) below the lower deck; they had also a poop-deck, or short deck in the after part of the ship above the spar-deck, and sometimes a forecastle deck, or similar short deck in the fore-part of the ship, sometimes retained in merchant ships and called the top-gallant forecastle. See also HALF-DECK, HURRICANE-DECK, QUARTER-DECK, etc.

As to the lack of trousers: when it's only blokes about we like to strip down to our knickers, balance cans of lager on our heads and watch some footy on the telly.

(Or so I'm told.)

[Lalwendë]

That's shattered my illusions about the origins of 'poop deck' anyway, which is perhaps a good thing, considering those illusions!

I just hope you all have clean underwear on, 'cause I'm not doing the laundry. Who's the ring-leader in all this laddishness then? I'm not that bad at balancing cans of lager on my head, actually...

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

As I recall, it was davem who first introduced the casual tone of laddishness (what a great word! Is that actual British lingo or something of your own creation?) way back when he first got to Aragorn's Court.

But this is becoming Chatty, and thus in danger of earning us both a right good Barrow-Wighting.

[Mithalwen]

As I recall, it was davem who first introduced the casual tone of laddishness (what a great word! Is that actual British lingo or something of your own creation?) way back when he first got to Aragorn's Court.
.


Laddish is British Lingo but is not always a term of approbation ;)

Much scarier however is the ladette.

http://english2american.com/dictionary/cat_people.html

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Sea shanties and beer on the tides, I see. Whatever will those stone-faced Immortal Ones think?

The residents of Minas Tirith have become slighty perturbed about the incessant loud rock music blaring from the massive speakers of the Court. They are also outraged at the so-called - and I quote - 'lack of morals' displayed by the guests. O my! Kids these days!

A greeting to all our friends,

from the Court of Aragorn.

(Where I don't think I'll ever be leaving, judging by the deranged warblings that are my recent posts)

[the phantom]

The residents of Minas Tirith have become slighty perturbed about the incessant loud rock music blaring from the massive speakers of the Court. They are also outraged at the so-called - and I quote - 'lack of morals' displayed by the guests.
The people of Minas Tirith can rest easy now that the phantom has arrived. He will have things looking and sounding regal again within the day, and the worst of the misbehaving miscreants will be locked in the White Tower.

[Firefoot]

The residents of Minas Tirith have become slighty perturbed about the incessant loud rock music blaring from the massive speakers of the Court. They are also outraged at the so-called - and I quote - 'lack of morals' displayed by the guests. The people of Minas Tirith can rest easy now that the phantom has arrived. He will have things looking and sounding regal again within the day, and the worst of the misbehaving miscreants will be locked in the White Tower.Finally! :p They've not been listening to me... ;)

[Mithalwen]

[QUOTE=Eomer of the Rohirrim]
The residents of Minas Tirith have become slighty perturbed about the incessant loud rock music blaring from the massive speakers of the Court. They are also outraged at the so-called - and I quote - 'lack of morals' displayed by the guests. O my! Kids these days!

from the Court of Aragorn.
QUOTE]

Look what they started here when they took to drinking beer in their undies... and my redecoration was a complete waste of time ...... it is now more "moulin rouge" than a citadel of taste and elegance ...... the string quartet is playing electric instruments and wearing leather and the library has been turned into a "chill out" room - whatever that is .... .and don't get me started on what they have done to the court of the fountain... :p

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Don't I have immunity, granted by the King himself?

Anyway, acts of debauchery are victimless crimes; like punching someone in the dark. :smokin:

Peace.

[Mithalwen]

Don't I have immunity, granted by the King himself?

Anyway, acts of debauchery are victimless crimes; like punching someone in the dark. :smokin:

Peace.


Find me wheatgrass, alka-seltzer and ear-plugs and all is forgiven. Find me a decent espresso and I might give this debauchery another go.... :p

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Debauchery's a funny thing (no, bear with me, I'm actually going somewhere with this). You see, back in the day, it was considered debauched to eat marshmallows. Why, when I used to live in the Old Forest, I could barely walk around without angry deer shooting me wicked glances for wearing red boots.

So you see, the Court should be permitted our freedoms. It's like a big social experiment.

As much coffee as you please Mithalwen. It's some of the finest Nurn coffee, I believe. Wonderful stuff...

[Mithalwen]

Debauchery's a funny thing (no, bare with me.....



Is that an invitation? :eek: LOL

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Swiftly edited. :o

The first time I've ever felt the need to use that particular emoticon. :rolleyes:

Biff did it. He wants to make me look terrible (even more so) because he is sickened by what the Court has become. Biff's favourite barrowdowners are Fordim, davem, Sauce and the Wight himself. I think he loathes me. Probably because I scream at him all the time.

[mark12_30]

...... the string quartet is playing electric instruments and leather ...

The quartet is playing leather? Horrifying indeed. I brought my strat to Elrond's porch just in time.

[Mithalwen]

Oops I have corrected this to the intended "wearing leather" ... sorry Eomer distracted me.... ;)

[the phantom]

I have used my influence to obtain a new decree the King!

"I, Aragorn Elessar Estel Strider Longshanks Telcontar, declare that from this moment until the Last Battle-

1) The fountain is to spout WATER!

2) The library is off limits to all but those on my list of scholars. Anyone caught using books or piles of manuscript as a foot rest, a coaster, or as tinder will be booked and then "booked" (like a stoning, only books are used in place of rocks).

3) Anyone who uses the word "debauchery" without cringing will be taken to "Denny's leap" where the perpetrator will be made to emulate the recently deceased Steward.

4) Those who hinder Mithalwen's redecoration efforts will be locked in Chinese handcuffs and have their mouths sealed, and then will be taken to Ioreth's house to sit in the living room as a conversation piece."

[Mithalwen]

Oh Phantom .... you are no fun anymore...... :p

And the library thing reminds me of the solemn declaration I had to make on joining the Bodleian, not to set fire to the place .... I mean the thought never occured til they suggested it...... :rolleyes:

[Lalwendë]

4) Those who hinder Mithalwen's redecoration efforts will be locked in Chinese handcuffs and have their mouths sealed, and then will be taken to Ioreth's house to sit in the living room as a conversation piece."

With all this talk of debauchery and freudian slips about baring things and leather, they might like that kind of thing. :eek: I should think up some more sedate punishments if I were you, like being forced to learn embroidery or something of that nature. ;)

[The Saucepan Man]

Chat-room (http://www.barrowdowns.com/chat.php) :rolleyes:

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Child seems to have joined those with a free pass to Aman.

*breaks out champagne* Congratulations. :)

[Lalwendë]

Hurrah! At least I won't have to do all the washing up by myself. :eek: This might give me more time for fishing...

And I see Mithalwen has joined the Council of Elrond. I bet he's more than a bit perturbed to have one of his biggest stalkers...oops, *cough* fans around... ;)

[Mithalwen]

Oh it will be very select gathering now with an healthy m/f ration ... wonder if HI and B88 are hen-pecked or lucky bunnies.... But I hope my room is ensuite cos there is bound to be competition for the bathrooms :p Well I am taking a detour via Dorwinion and am a little fragile from the farewell bash (they know how to party down at the Court..) ..... so I am due for a little R&R...

But if I see Elrond.. I think I will be too shy to speak... and of course I always remember what my Mamma said.....

[Boromir88]

Congradulations to Child and Mith on their new positions. Tis an honor to be up here with such great mind, (I now find myself in the same thinking as davem, how the heck did I get up here)?

[Mithalwen]

Congradulations to Child and Mith on their new positions. Tis an honor to be up here with such great mind, (I now find myself in the same thinking as davem, how the heck did I get up here)?


For myself, I can only assume that my presence is not my reward but someone else's punishment...... But I am happy to be in Rivendell ... I have always wanted to visit and I don't know that I will want to leave ..... seeing it is the perfect place to be quiet or be merry......

But first I think, I need a bath after the journey, a little refreshment and then do some stargazing. Then to the hall of fire to warm up and sing... bit chilly so far North ....... Maybe someone can help me unload the car... ;)

[ElementFire]

I've only gotten one rep so far, it was positive thank goodness. I'm gonna try to stay on everybody's good side so so I don't get any bad rep. :)

[Lhunardawen]

my presence is not my reward but someone else's punishment Hmm...beautiful signature material...fits me so... :D

Congratulations to those who have scaled new heights! ...Wait, that includes me! How in the world did I get here??? (to quote davem and B88)

*Lhuna goes on to heave his greatgreat...grandson Aragorn off the throne and bounces on the seat. How undignified. :rolleyes: *

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Fea packs up her mask of inscrutability, her crazy captions, and occasionally REALLY impressive post... and her laptop... and hikes up to Aragorn's Court. "Wow" she thinks. "This is why those Gondorians are in such good shape."

Thanks to the whole slew of people who got a kick out of Aragorn breaking Boromir's hands, thus punting me in one fell swoop up into Aragorn's Court.

*Settles in a nice sunny corner with a cup of tea.*

[the phantom]

"You made it!" shouted the phantom upon spotting Fea.

*phantom walks over, grins, and slips her a ring of keys*

"With these" he whispered, "there isn't a place in the city you can't go."

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Upon receiving the sacred keys, Fea's eyes widen in an angelically innocent way.

"Phantom, my friend... do you know the havoc we could wreak?" she whispers, looking around to make sure nobody can hear. "Let's play tic-tac-toe with sidewalk chalk on Rath Dinen!"

[the phantom]

the phantom laughs quietly and winks at his partner in mischief

"I already have a bucket of chalk hid behind the door to Ecthelion's tomb," he says. "And also, out at the end of the court by Denny's leap, I stashed a tub of water balloons to throw at people down in the first level. And then... well... it's too much to tell right now. I'll just say that I've been preparing for your arrival in many ways. You will see the other things I have planned soon enough."

"Was that the 'evil twinkle' I just saw in your left eye?" asks Fea, barely able to keep a devilish grin from conquering her face.

"Perhaps," he replies with a wink.

[Rimbaud]

Rather like a myopic Robin Hood, this thread is in danger of becoming entirely aimless.

Comments pertinent to the reputation system, questions & problems only; there is a chat-room the site runs, which is for, well, chat.

Tersely

~Rim

[Formendacil]

Just received the invitation from the Royal Courier last week, and was pleasantly surprised to be so honoured. Unfortunately, although I would be welcome at Aragorn's Court, I do not, at the current time, have room in my schedule to visit either Minas Tirith or Annuminas.

Besides, there are nasty rumours about things going on in Minas Tirith. Should I have the time to visit dear friend Dunadan, it will likely be in his far more Canadian-esque home in the north.

Serious note: Thanks to everyone who saw enough worth in my posts to rep them. Hopefully, I haven't been too stingy with posts I see with worth.

[the phantom]

questions & problems only
That's what this thread is for? Most of the posts on the previous few pages fooled me into thinking otherwise. I actually thought I was on topic when I posted. Boy was I was fooled!

Please forgive us, Rimbaud. It will never happen again.

(well, actually it probably will- just not on this thread :p )

*Gasp* Aahh!! I just realized this post is off topic! Sorry sorry- I'm done now.

[Rimbaud]

Indeed, much like the Oscars, the thread in the first instance has only a tenuous link with purpose, but it is my understanding that this is not a totalitarian regime at BD, merely neither a free nor purposeless one.

Such merit as it has is callously circumnavigated both by the clamour of weak posts and the occasionally stentorian prescription that results - thus including this post. Ah me.

It's true that in making such posts, you were following a trend, but as with twenty-inch flares and chest-wigs, trends are not automatically self-justifying.

Atypically

~Rim

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Oooh! I just arrived at Aragorn's Court! Seems very clean. I think I'll steal some cake. ;) :p

EDIT: Okay, just one question... Do the number of points allocated to a reputation vary on the reputation the giver has? I'm sure it does. I’m sure I've been given reputation from Piles of bones and not received as much as I have from people welcome at Aragorns court. Am I imagining this?

[Boromir88]

Oh my now we there is Formendacil and Hookbill, in Aragorn's court, poor Aragorn. I wonder if they trashed the place yet. And another thing...oooh who has my old room? Congrats to the both of you for making it to this point, and hope you continue to prosper. ;)

[VanimaEdhel]

I'm glad to see we brought this back. I seem to remember us having a problem with the ratings on the old board - with people abusing the privilege of being about to judge one another. It became more political and about raising your friends and lowering your enemies (which I hope none of us have on here).

Well, this was a nice "welcome back" thread for me to read. Keep up the maturity and we'll be able to keep this privilege.

[Formendacil]

I'm glad to see we brought this back. I seem to remember us having a problem with the ratings on the old board - with people abusing the privilege of being about to judge one another. It became more political and about raising your friends and lowering your enemies (which I hope none of us have on here).

Friends?

I have friends?

And here I thought I was repping all my enemies.... ;)

EDIT: Okay, just one question... Do the number of points allocated to a reputation vary on the reputation the giver has? I'm sure it does. I’m sure I've been given reputation from Piles of bones and not received as much as I have from people welcome at Aragorns court. Am I imagining this?

I believe this is confirmed elsewhere, possibly higher up in this thread. Certainly, it has been my experience that way. People bound for the straight road have a lot more to offer than people who "are no fools of Tooks".

Okay, that's it for the serious part of this post. Hope the mods can see it buried here in the middle.

Oh my now we there is Formendacil and Hookbill, in Aragorn's court, poor Aragorn. I wonder if they trashed the place yet. And another thing...oooh who has my old room? Congrats to the both of you for making it to this point, and hope you continue to prosper.

Actually, I'm still waiting for the bus to come by Fornost so I go down the Greenway to Minas Anor. I'm thinking of doing a bit of a sight-seeing tour. You know, Angrenost Forest National Park (United Kingdom of Gondor and Arnor), Glittering Caves Amusement Park (Gloinsson Enterprises, with support from the Province of Westfold), Druedain Exacavations (down in Dunharrow. Expedition organised by the Kingdoms of Gondor and Rohan in partnership). You know, all the big touristy-attractions.

[ElementFire]

I like giving positive rep, it feels good. :D It makes me feel happy inside.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

I'll have to agree with you there, ElementFire, giving positive reputation is always nice. However, I think I have only given bad reputation twice. That was hard in my opinion, with the exseption of the most recent when I was anger at someone for desecrating a thread. It felt like justice.

I think after a long time, this may help clean up the forum. All in all, I can't see a problem with the reputation system. :)

[Lindolirian]

I believe this is confirmed elsewhere, possibly higher up in this thread. Certainly, it has been my experience that way. People bound for the straight road have a lot more to offer than people who "are no fools of Tooks". Yes, the Barrow-Wight posted that on the first page, but since a lot of people seem to have trouble with viewing early pages (;)), here is the link (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=318757&postcount=29) for it again. A very useful FAQ...enjoy.

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

Gosh, but in my absence the deck of Cirdan's ship has become quite crowded!

Greetings to Child of the Seventh Age and Bethberry on coming aboard.

It's always nice to have gender parity. Makes the dances a whole heck of a lot more fun. What with davem's beard ticking my cheek and the sound of Saucy's pans drowning out the music it was rather gruesome.

I'm just off to the cellars. Can I fetch anyone another drink?

[Boromir88]

It takes something big to get my buttons pushed too Hookbill. For instance, someone telling you you're wrong, but doesn't show anything to back it up. That was the one time I believe.

I get irked about people who give negative rep, but don't leave their names. I'm not going to bite you, if I admit sometimes I deserve being reprimmanded, atleast have the guts to put your name down, it's not like I'll have a personal vendetta.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I get irked about people who give negative rep, but don't leave their names. I'm not going to bite you, if I admit sometimes I deserve being reprimmanded, atleast have the guts to put your name down, it's not like I'll have a personal vendetta. (Boromir88--emphasis mine)
Ah, but really? ;) :p

Just kidding. Fortunately, I have given no negative rep as of yet (nor received one, whew!) Perhaps it just irks me that the outside world recognises our faults more than our progress, and I'd be more than glad to play my part to make this a place where the opposite is true.

Or perhaps you're just too lazy to switch the options. :rolleyes:

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I've only posted two negative reps. I signed both. One was directed at a member who was making every effort to obnoxiously shoot down a really good thread. The other one was at a randomly-lettered n00b who posted some thread or another called "adult" something-or-other. My initial thought being "what the...?" I clicked the thread and realized it was some perv with no clue on how things are done around here. And so, in the grand scheme of things, he/she got a "Get a life. This site is family-friendly. ~Fea" before Esty (very quickly) made the thread nonexistant.

[Eruanna]

Eruanna has shown the wisdom of Gandalf or so it says when I hover my mouse over the little green coloured icons.
There are two little icons under my name and yet other members have also shown the wisdom of Gandalf and there are more icons under their names. It's no biggie, but I don't quite get it.

Thank you, by the way to those people who have said that they appreciated my few humble posts in 'Books'. I have recently returned to the 'Downs and having also just re-read the trilogy, I'm finding a bit more to say, and a little more courage than when I was previously a regular here!

[Boromir88]

There are two little icons under my name and yet other members have also shown the wisdom of Gandalf and there are more icons under their names. It's no biggie, but I don't quite get it.
100 rep pts= 1 green Jewel (until you start getting higher up then it's like 200 pts or something like that). Then every so often you get a title change. I think once you get to 4 little jewlies you'll get the "fame of Frodo" title. Then 6 is "you would be welcome at Aragorn's court." So yes, some people may have more jewels and still the same title...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You'll find more information on the rating system if you go back to the first page of this thread and read the posts there, especially The Barrow-Wight's.

[Eruanna]

Thank you, Boromir and Estelyn. It was only a minor musing :)
I did read the beginning of the thread and the BWs posts, but obviously not closely enough!

[Son of Númenor]

I wonder if anyone has noticed that The Saucepan Man and davem now sit on high Taniquetil. The perfect spot for a wedding, if you ask me, once a certain boggart ascends the mountain. ;)

[Child of the 7th Age]

Hearty congrats to all involved, but this raises an intriguing question.

If six enhanced jewels get you all the way to Taniquetil, where in the world do you end up if you manage to collect all eleven? And what title could you possibly bear in those interim four steps along the way?

Perhaps the final jewel puts you in Eru's presence and the ones before that have you serving on the council of Manwë or in the household of Varda? Hmm.... Anyone else have ideas on this, or you may want to tell me to be patient and wait.....

[Lalwendë]

I wonder if anyone has noticed that The Saucepan Man and davem now sit on high Taniquetil. The perfect spot for a wedding, if you ask me, once a certain boggart ascends the mountain.

In such a spot the feast afterwards would have to consist of corned beef sandwiches, kendal mint cake and a flask of hot tea. Outfits would be mostly made up of orange cagoules, bobble hats and sturdy socks tucked into stout boots. ;)

I still think that maybe what happens once people get to a certain level, they might get to 'pick their own' status so to speak.

Surely, if the 'gaps' one has to cover get wider as points get higher, then eventually, everyone will be up at the same level?

[Lhunardawen]

I wonder if anyone has noticed that The Saucepan Man and davem now sit on high Taniquetil. The perfect spot for a wedding, if you ask me, once a certain boggart ascends the mountain. ;)
Maybe they'd wait until they are at the very presence of Eru himself, whom they could have already asked to officiate the ceremony. :D


Surely, if the 'gaps' one has to cover get wider as points get higher, then eventually, everyone will be up at the same level? That seems to me already happening, at least at a smaller scale. When I look at the Members List arranged descendingly in terms of reps, more and more people get a certain rep standing at the same time.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

.....and thus the game would end. I believe HerenIstarion alluded to that a few pages ago.

On a sidenote, Elrond must be wondering how on Middle-earth this character ever stumbled into his house. :D You lot are so very kind and nice.

[The Saucepan Man]

I wonder if anyone has noticed that The Saucepan Man and davem now sit on high Taniquetil. The perfect spot for a wedding, if you ask me, once a certain boggart ascends the mountain.She has now! Which makes me feel like a bit of a gooseberry. Although perhaps I can officiate at the ceremony. :D

In any event, yet further congratulations are in order for davem and Lalwendë. Clearly they have much in common. :smokin:

[HerenIstarion]

.....and thus the game would end. I believe HerenIstarion alluded to that a few pages ago

Post #374 (http://69.51.5.41/showthread.php?p=365647) of the current thread. It took thrice as less as I predicted, as I haven't counted for leaping increase in 'giving' power, which made the ascend speedier by far. In this respect, my calculations were short of the mark

Out of curiosity, would those abiding in Taniquetil enlighten me if they have around 2000 points (as my reasoning was that highest amount of squares - 11 (which is proven true so far) should be got by that amount of points. (I was right with 1200 and 1500 so far :D)

As for the end of game, I have a suspicion that accumulation of points does not end with 2000, just squares stop adding up

The exact data can be got from BW, of course, but he adds to the fun of gambling by keeping very silent about the issue :)

Thanks :D

[davem]

Out of curiosity, would those abiding in Taniquetil enlighten me if they have around 2000 points (as my reasoning was that highest amount of squares - 11 (which is proven true so far) should be got by that amount of points. (I was right with 1200 and 1500 so far )

I'm currently on 2220 if that helps....

[ElementFire]

I have one green box and a green circle.... not sure what that means, but green is generally a good color...so I think it's good... :p

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Maybe, just maybe, after the green blocks stop their auspicious collisions, other things start to happen.

Maybe, once you reach 2500 points, a fiery square will appear around your avatar. :)

Or when you reach 5000 points, the Barrow-wight could personally donate to you a vast quantity of gold.

[Amrod the Hunter]

The only reward that you will get is the inner pleasure.
I can't get more than one green box,so I wouldn't worry about that.
BTW:How could you get 11 boxes in the name of God!?

[Mithalwen]

Well you may need to make a few more posts :) ... it is possible for people to make very rapid progress now that so many of the old lags have so much "weight" and often like to encourage new talent .... but as you so rightly say the inner pleasure is what counts..

[Formendacil]

Well you may need to make a few more posts :) ... it is possible for people to make very rapid progress now that so many of the old lags have so much "weight" and often like to encourage new talent .... but as you so rightly say the inner pleasure is what counts..

*Deadpan voice and face*

Example?

[Saurreg]

The only reward that you will get is the inner pleasure.


That's very true. Your best posts aren't those that get the most rep but those that you feel good/proud that you've uploaded.

[Mithalwen]

*Deadpan voice and face*

Example?


Sorry I have no idea what I meant then ;)... or indeed who..

[Boromir88]

Saureg, I think it can work both ways. Some of the posts that I was really proud of, got me a lot of reps, and it only means more to see that other people enjoy what you posted. Where other posts I've really enjoyed got me little or no reps, but I'm still proud of them ;) .

[Amanaduial the archer]

Sorry I have no idea what I meant then ;)... or indeed who..
Liar ;)

[Ainaserkewen]

So, I've been Frodoed and that makes me really happy, not just because an extra greed...I mean green box has been added under my name, but because I can now easily find myself on the Reputations List, third Page. Amazing what little boxes can do.

And I am happy to see that no-one gives me reps without signing anymore. I hope that's become everyone's habit.

[Mithalwen]

Liar ;)
!!! Outrageous - do I still have custody of Fordim's Gauntlet?

[Mithalwen]

Woo-hoo!

The cardinals are still voting in their conclave and the UK is blissfully MP-free but no such power-vacuum exists at the Barrow Downs. We have a new leader - with a modest number of posts but clearly and deservedly well received Lalwende is the Downer with the highest reputation!!!! Laughter in the higher echelons of the barrow - superb :D.......

(And maybe davem will just have to get used to her having the upper hand ;) )

[Evisse the Blue]

It's very nice and refreshing that this a family-friendly forum but I think receiving an (anonymous, mind you) bad reputation because I used the word 'damn' (which you can see the board does not censor) is a little over the top. Especially since the term was not used as an insult but in a humorous manner (see post 86, page 3 of this thread). This is not to argue with the personal beliefs of the reputation giver - if he/she thinks I deserved a bad rep, so be it, they're exercising their board-given right. This is just to bring once again to the attention a problem that has been brought many times since the rep system was made, but never, to my knowledge has it been eradicated: that of NOT signing negative reps. No one hesitates to sign positive reps, but most negative reps are left anonymous. Hmm. A not so flattering appelative comes to mind, and one that is not a swear word.

Not that I mind bad reps. :p It's quite interesting to get them, because they became so rare. And a difference has to be made, or else we'd all be heading for the Straight Road sooner or later, and what would be the fun in that? I for one am happy to be at Aragorn's court for I am enjoying myself immensely and do not wish to leave. ;)

[Mithalwen]

I think cowardly may be the word you are looking for.....

I finally cracked and gave a negative rep for a post I felt was quite malicious. But I signed it...

I suppose the only thing worse than not signing would be to sign with someone elses name... but perhaps I shouldn't give folk ideas...........

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'd actually wondered about that, Mith... If some mischief-maker with a bad sense of humor decided to neg-rep somebody and sign it The Barrow-Wight, or Esty, or... davem. :eek: The only way you could tell is if the points you receive don't correspond with the points they have to give.

What got me thinking along those lines was the Crystal Heart fiasco and how we don't really know who anybody is at any given time, but for pure trust in words. Is there any way for our beloved Higher Ups to moniter rep-giving? I don't remember if that has been mentioned before. I know that most of my reps come from the real deal Downers, because they have cute personal references and such, but how can you really tell?

-Conspiracy Theory Fea

[Mithalwen]

But does neg rep have the same weight as positive? I think I just lost one point each time but since it was anonymous there was no way of telling if that was their "weight" or normal.....

Unsurprisingly it was that unfortunate business that prompted my neg repping - not the incident itself but a response to it which was too full of schadenfreude...

[Mithalwen]

(And maybe davem will just have to get used to her having the upper hand ;) )


I spoke too soon methinks.. clearly there is a fine balance of power!

[Lalwendë]

I spoke too soon methinks.. clearly there is a fine balance of power!

It certainly beats arguing over the remote control, anyway! Or the ironing. ;)

But about getting a negative rep and it being 'signed' with a false name - surely if you got one you might want to PM the supposed giver and ask about it, especially if they were someone well-known? If so, then the culprit might soon be found out, as no doubt it would end up going to a mod or to The Barrow-Wight who must be able to trace such things?

[Boromir88]

I know that most of my reps come from the real deal Downers, because they have cute personal references and such, but how can you really tell?
Good question Fea, I think most downers do use some sort of stamp, or repeated sign to sort of show that that is them. For instance I use the §, thingy's....the one's I've gotten from Eomer says "sincerely," and others always use abbreviations. So if it's something that's sort of a way to tell if that's the real person or not, but of course it's not concrete.

Originally posted by Mith: I finally cracked and gave a negative rep for a post I felt was quite malicious. But I signed it...
Good girl. :p

Not that I mind bad reps. It's quite interesting to get them, because they became so rare. And a difference has to be made, or else we'd all be heading for the Straight Road sooner or later, and what would be the fun in that?
I see where you are coming from Evisse, and it's quite sad people don't have the "guts" to put down their name. But I would have to disagree with you on this, I am not one who likes to see bad reps, I find it troubling to give one, but the ones that I do give, I assure there is no remorse in it. ;) Eventhough if we would all be heading for the "straight road," I don't see a reason for people to hand out more bad reps, I think blatent personal attacks against others, or a disobeyal of forum rules are just grounds for bad reputations, maybe just being ignorant...on top of some other bad qualities. Instead of giving more bad reps, I think we shouldn't be so "rep happy" anymore, and to rep them post that are absolutely fantastic/thoughtful/insightful. Or ones on the lighter side that just gets you to crack up laughing you choke on your tea and crumpets (or muffins whatever you prefer). I mean laughter is the biggest easer of stress, and I think should warrant a good reputation if someone gets you to bust up laughing. :p

[THE Ka]

This is just to bring once again to the attention a problem that has been brought many times since the rep system was made, but never, to my knowledge has it been eradicated: that of NOT signing negative reps. No one hesitates to sign positive reps, but most negative reps are left anonymous.

Ehk, I absolutely detest that... Especially when people make it a habit, or have special way of compiling information into a rep that gives it an obvious mark. I just feel like I wish I could track them down and say: " Look! If you're trying to be 'mysterious' add some variety! Don't be a square... ;) "

But, there are sometimes when I find that after giving a positive comment, I forget my name... or, my personal mark of ~ ( incert mood or ideal here) Ka. Hopefully the person is able to tell. Sorry for those times, I was being a buckethead.

As for identity-theft used on reps... Identity-theft is for pickeled herring-bellied cowards... and for ANYONE with such a notion, THE Ka will track you down and eat you... Because fish are tasty twice boiled...

~ memorative Ka

[The Barrow-Wight]

Over the last 90 days....

New posts written: 14,449
Positive reputations given: 3446 (98.7%)
Negative Reputations given: 48 (1.3%)

This is a fantastic statistic! It shows that only a tiny fraction of what is written on the Downs is considered substandard by the community at large, and it is proof that our members can govern themselves into continued excellence. The reputation system is not responsible for our excellence, of course, but it is another testament to it.

However....

Negative reputations without signature: 25 (53%!!!!)
Negative reputations without comment: 6 (13%!!!!)

These numbers are terrible. Even though they represent only a miniscule amount of the total reps given, they are entirely unacceptable, more so in that several had values higher than -1, which means they weren't given by new members.

There is nothing wrong with giving a negative reputation as long as it has a valid, constructive comment and a clear, uncoded indication of who wrote it. If it's not worth signing, it's not worth writing.

[alatar]

Just wanted to note that the 'best' rep that I have received was exactly two characters in length - "OK". Probably thought more about that one rep than any of the others that I'd received. It was positive, so the sender wasn't saying "okay - enough already!" but was he/she agreeing with me, or was it something deeper... ;)

And I wish that I could get rep points at work - it would definitely make me more productive.

[Mithalwen]

Very interesting stats. I assume that the no comments are in addition to the no sigs? IE that only 34% of neg rep is a signed comment?


** BW's answer **
Actually, the blanks are part of the no sigs group, thus 25 total without sigs, of which 6 were blank

[Encaitare]

It's not as though if you sign a negative rep the recipient is going to hate you forever and plot your downfall every time s/he turns on the computer... at least, I hope not. :eek:

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Ah, but Encai, you forgot to take into account the incredible revenge-plotting skills of us 'Downers. We're a miserably petty bunch, we all. ;)

[Mithalwen]

Instead of giving more bad reps, I think we shouldn't be so "rep happy" anymore, and to rep them post that are absolutely fantastic/thoughtful/insightful. Or ones on the lighter side that just gets you to crack up laughing you choke on your tea and crumpets (or muffins whatever you prefer). I mean laughter is the biggest easer of stress, and I think should warrant a good reputation if someone gets you to bust up laughing. :p


I have to disagree with this. I don't think it is a problem it lots of people end up bound for the straight road or even on Taniquetil (which I imagine is as far as it goes...) . While the weight of established downers may speed their passsage, by the time they get there, they should have still got the benefit of the system (you learn what sort of posts are appropriate and have become sufficiently established for your exact status to be less relevant [unless it has sparked a strong competitive streak as with some who shall remain nameless ;) ] ). While I think there mightbe an argument for capping the rep-weight of downers, it smacks of "pulling the ladder up behind you" to change one's criteria for rep because you have more to give.

As someone who benefitted from the encouragement of some high rollers as a newcomer, I will not grudge the points I have to give to those who interest or amuse or provoke thought. I do try to rep a wide range of people though, while there are downers who deserve rep for more or less everything they post, I fegard it as a failure if I get the "spread it around message too often".

As for the anonymous, commentless neg rep - I guess it could be demonstrated by a Venn diagramme ( Barrow Downers who idle as well as cowardly ). :rolleyes:

[THE Ka]

Negative reputations without comment: 6 (13%!!!!)



How did they do that?! Fall asleep at the keyboard? Total waste of time if you don't specifically state why that post was not approved... and of course it doesn't make sense at all...


That's sad... :( <--- proving it again in pixels...


~ Disappointed Ka

[elronds_daughter]

Those are frightening statistics. Though, I must admit, that I have left unsigned positive comments--but only because my pinkie finger has reached over and pushed the "Enter" button on the keyboard before I was finished!

[Mithalwen]

I left unsigned positive rep when I started since I didn't realise it was an anonymous system and assumed the sender would be identified - and sometimes I am just ham-fisted and hit the wrong key. But thereis a world of difference between anonymous positive rep and anonymous neg rep ( unless you are stalking someone of course!!!). It is the difference between the door bell ringing and opening the door to find noone and opening hte door to find a bunch of flowers on the step :)

[ElementFire]

How did they do that?! Fall asleep at the keyboard? Total waste of time if you don't specifically state why that post was not approved... and of course it doesn't make sense at all...

I've had those too...:( *sniffles*
-EF

[THE Ka]

I left unsigned positive rep when I started since I didn't realise it was an anonymous system and assumed the sender would be identified - and sometimes I am just ham-fisted and hit the wrong key. But thereis a world of difference between anonymous positive rep and anonymous neg rep ( unless you are stalking someone of course!!!). It is the difference between the door bell ringing and opening the door to find noone and opening hte door to find a bunch of flowers on the step :)


Is May Day then considered stalking? :confused:

Just checking so I don't have any doubts about my May 1st practices...

~ May Day Ka

[Mithalwen]

Is May Day then considered stalking? :confused:

Just checking so I don't have any doubts about my May 1st practices...

~ May Day Ka

Sorry, I have no ideas what you mean .... the only Mayday practices I can think of involve either Eastern European tank parades, choirboys up towers, and prancing around a pole clutching a ribbon - and balls of course - all of which may be dubious in their own ways but nothing to do with rep... :S

[THE Ka]

Sorry, I have no ideas what you mean .... the only Mayday practices I can think of involve either Eastern European tank parades, choirboys up towers, and prancing around a pole clutching a ribbon - and balls of course - all of which may be dubious in their own ways but nothing to do with rep... :S


You have to know! Does the practice of placing flowers on stoops, doorsteps, and thresholds, ringing the door bell or knocking then disappearing from sight ring a bell?

my mum once told me it was a 'dead celebration...'. Meaning that no one ever does it anymore. Tis' sad... :(

Hope this helps. Maybe we should have one at the Downs... :D It would be a great way of keeping up the kindness between older members, and welcoming new ones.

~ It be Ka

[Ainaserkewen]

Not only did I just recieve my first negative rep for a Crazy Caption, but the author of said rep signed it with a "hehe" and a ": )" (this is not my emoticon, I boycott them). What's up with that? Oh, and they didn't leave a name either. I guess that maybe it was a mistake, but I still think that's kind of rude.

[Anguirel]

I receive quite a lot of unsigned neutral reps, which have dark icons next to them and don't add to my points or, as far as I can see, subtract from them...very odd...

[Bêthberry]

Reputations that don't add (or subtract) any points from your standing are from very new members who have not yet posted enough to earn status as a giver of reputation points. They should still be able to include comments and their name, though. LIkely they are so new they don't realise we have a form of etiquette which suggests we prefer signed comments. Strange, though, that they have learned about the rep system without learning that.

So, to all you newbies who read this thread, please as a courtesy include a comment or two explaining why you have repped a particular post and include your nick as well. People here appreciate feedback!

[Mithalwen]

What I want to know, is do you have the same weight in neg rep as positive? There has been a post that I have been tempted to neg rep both times I read it but held back because it was a newbie and I thought it might be an excessive punishment for a first offence!!!!

[Formendacil]

Not only did I just recieve my first negative rep for a Crazy Caption, but the author of said rep signed it with a "hehe" and a ": )" (this is not my emoticon, I boycott them). What's up with that? Oh, and they didn't leave a name either. I guess that maybe it was a mistake, but I still think that's kind of rude.

It's possible that the person repping you (and no, it was not me) had their settings set to "negative" because the last person they repped was negative. From the comments, it would appear that they liked your caption.

So, as a note: if you don't re-click on positive rep after giving someone bad rep, all the rep you give will be negative. The default setting is whatever you did last.

[Ainaserkewen]

So, as a note: if you don't re-click on positive rep after giving someone bad rep, all the rep you give will be negative. The default setting is whatever you did last. See, I didn't know that because I've never given a negative rep. Thanks, it all makes more sense now.

[Formendacil]

See, I didn't know that because I've never given a negative rep. Thanks, it all makes more sense now.

Actually, neither have I, but that's what I've gleaned from reading around here. I suppose it's possible that I'm wrong, but given the evidence I'd rather think not.

[Encaitare]

So, as a note: if you don't re-click on positive rep after giving someone bad rep, all the rep you give will be negative. The default setting is whatever you did last.

That doesn't happen to me -- the default I get is always positive, no matter what the last rep type was.

[Formendacil]

Well, I could well be wrong (see last post of mine in this thread for reasons why). However, that was what I was given to understand from others.

Or maybe YOU were the one who repped Aina!!! :p

[Ainaserkewen]

Or maybe YOU were the one who repped Aina!!! Gasp!

[Encaitare]

Well, I could well be wrong (see last post of mine in this thread for reasons why). However, that was what I was given to understand from others.

That's what I thought, too, since I'd never given a negative rep before. I've only ever given one, and when I did I thought of what people were saying here and made sure that "approve" was selected lest I accidentally give a negative rep... but it was selcted automatically for whatever reason.

Or maybe YOU were the one who repped Aina!!! :p

That's right! It was me! *malicious laughter*

Just kidding. Like I said, I have only given negative rep once, and it wasn't to Aina.

[Boromir88]

Originally posted by Mith: What I want to know, is do you have the same weight in neg rep as positive?
Well, if you wouldn't mind getting a negative rep from me, we can surely answer that question for you. Or you can just wait from one of the admins. :D

[Mithalwen]

Well, if you wouldn't mind getting a negative rep from me, we can surely answer that question for you. Or you can just wait from one of the admins. :D


Ooh it would be more gallant if I neg repped you... especially since you are so far ahead of me ;)

[Ainaserkewen]

Just kidding. Like I said, I have only given negative rep once, and it wasn't to Aina. Oh good. Who would give me a negative rep? That's just rediculous. I mean, I don't swear, or intentionally spell things wrong, or write off-topic posts.....um, oh shoot. Sorry guys.

[Anguirel]

Wee-hee! The benevolence of Esty has catapulted me into Aragorn's court. Make way, Anduril, there's a real sword in town now...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

If I may say so Anguirel, your rise to the Court has been swift and decisive. You are clearly a cool calculating politician, sir. :D

[Anguirel]

Well, you know, some people say I'm pretty incisive. And I don't hesitate to cut people dead if I have to. Ho ho ho...

[Nimrodel_9]

I finally made it to Aragorn's Court! Thanks for all the rep points! :)

[wilwarin538]

My rep points are at 123. I find that amusing.

[elronds_daughter]

Mine are at 101 now, thanks to Nimmy. <gold star goes to Nimmy>

[wilwarin538]

Scrap my last post, I am now at 151 thanks to HI! :D :D :D

[THE Ka]

Just wanted to express my grattitude to Nimmy and or HI for their reps. I'm now somehow in Aragorn's Court. Though I don't If I will like it here is beyond me, but I enjoy a compliment. So, much thanks to you two. I will let you both find a conclusion to who exactly help me get here, though you don't if you don't want to. Just means more thank yous and nice-to-know yous.


And in light of reputations, I thought I would throw this quote out:

"All saints have a past, all sinners a future."

~ Ka

[HerenIstarion]

You are both welcome

That aside, I have a question: where did Fordim go? Do not mistake me, I see him right now online, 'last activity Viewing Index The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum @ 01:32 AM' etc etc, but he does not appear on the member list any more, and his profile does not show 'send PM' option. What's wrong?

I would have written him in the first place, but I have no means (due to reasons given above)

This place seems mostly appropriate to ask away, though, as participants, I believe, tend to stare at the list a lot ;)

cheers

[Bêthberry]

I have noticed Fordim's absence as well, HI. He was on the reputations list two weeks ago when I surpassed him *cough* and briefly held third spot, until SpM took over the werewolf game and restored his saucy reputation.

I have, however, sent a missive to our mighty Admins in the hopes they can restore our Fordim to our midst. He has turned into a dreaded Ringwraith on his Rohan game, but let us all hope that does not mean he is now equally disembodied to us here.

BW, Sharkey, Mr. Underhill?

[Encaitare]

Ack! Fordie's gone missing! This is very disturbing.

Maybe the werewolves got him.

[Lhunardawen]

I knew something's wrong with the member (by reputation) list...

[THE Ka]

Great! Now we will officially be going to the spam wolves! Fordim better return, or we might be strung up with nonsense post and ennui topics.


I do hope they return, it will be quiet a bore here without them. :(


~ Concerned Ka

[The Barrow-Wight]

I'm not sure if you all are blind or I have admin X-ray glasses, but Fordim shows up on the Members list in the #5 position when sorted by reputation.

[Lindolirian]

I'm not an admin and I lost my X-ray glasses... They're blind. :rolleyes:

[Lhunardawen]

Okay, I was blind. :rolleyes:

[piosenniel]

There was a glitch with Fordim. Mr. Underhill fixed it. That's why you can all find FH now.

~*~ Pio

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Good grief! Am I really 20th in the whole of the Barrow Downs?
Good Lord! That’s a present surprise. :eek:

[Lhunardawen]

Must be all those crazy Crazy Captions, Hookbill. :)

[Hookbill the Goomba]

That’s probably true, Lhunardawen, I've had full pages of C-C reps. What's puzzling me is the fact that its usually the ones I don't think are that funny that get repped.

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

I am now back and able to post and PM and all that.

Thanks to all those who noted my disappearance and in particular to HI and Bb who alerted the powers that be so that I could be re-embodied.

For a few days there I thought that I had been Barrow-Wighted!!
:eek:

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The Downs wouldn't be the same without you, Fordie - and you are sorely missed on the CbC discussions... (poke, poke)

[Boromir88]

I won't be on for a little bit. My comp at home got a crap load of viruses and crashed it. And my niece (on the other side of the state) has my windows disk to start it back from scratch. :( Don't have too much fun witout me.

~B88

[Mithalwen]

well I don't know that you are allowed to have fun on the hallowed slopes of Taniquetil... you probably have to be sober and reverent at all times. COngratulations on your elevation none the less..:D

[Encaitare]

Whoa... I'm on the Straight Road. I must say I never thought that would happen -- so a huge thank you to all who helped me get there. Thanks for leaving comments, too; they always bring a smile to my face. :)

I notice that the jewel count doesn't change between the Straight Road and Taniquetil... at what point amount do you reach the lofty peak?

[Boromir88]

Well, I've fixed the problem quicker than I expected. Only spent about 5 hrs on it :p . But, got it up and going, and installed some extra protection ware and upgraded to 9.0 :D .

I thank aina, for finally getting me over the hump...I wonder if it was coincidence that you read my post right when you were watching Napolean Dynamite? Anyway thankyou. And Thankyou all who enjoyed reading what I had to post.

[Lhunardawen]

and to Lhuna for pushing me over onto the next level Did I? It was well-deserved, anyway. :)

[Ainaserkewen]

I thank aina, for finally getting me over the hump...I wonder if it was coincidence that you read my post right when you were watching Napolean Dynamite? Funny you should say that because I was actually. I rented it for the week and I was multi-tasking (you know, on my laptop I was watching the movie and surfing the downs) and it was just perfect. You're very welcome.

You know what's funny? When someone important (and by important I mean someone with 10+ rep point power) reps without signing...wonder who that could be.

[Firefoot]

You know what's funny? When someone important (and by important I mean someone with 10+ rep point power) reps without signing...wonder who that could be. It could be accidental, a finger slip on the Enter key or a temporary lapse in concentration. I did that last week... :rolleyes:

[Ainaserkewen]

Good point.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

You know what's funny? When someone important (and by important I mean someone with 10+ rep point power) reps without signing...wonder who that could be.

The exact thing happened to me only yesterday... Ooohhh!

I always spell check my posts, p-ms and Rep giving, obviously some people don't. I say this as I received this Rep yesterday, from someone who was obviously in a hurry.

Saruman has is alergic! I had no idea. ;) ~********

I won't shame the one who sent this, but any who can decipher it is free to. :p

[Kuruharan]

You know what's funny? When someone important (and by important I mean someone with 10+ rep point power) reps without signing...wonder who that could be.

I'm not sure that 10 points is really all that much anymore...

[mormegil]

I'm not sure that 10 points is really all that much anymore...

Well sadly it is a lot to me right now :(

[Encaitare]

10 points is certainly respectable! I'm not sure what my point sway is, though.

[Boromir88]

1 point for every 100 rep points.

1 point for every 1,000 posts.

1 point for every year you are a member.

Looking at that Enca, I would guess maybe 13?

[Encaitare]

Thanks, Boromir. :) 16 rep sway have I.

[Ainaserkewen]

A rep for my second to last post on this thread:
you mean, like this? ;) Who is this!? It bumped me up quite a bit...this is weird.

[HerenIstarion]

1 point for every 100 rep points.

1 point for every 1,000 posts.

1 point for every year you are a member.

add 1 point for having more than 50 posts and positive repute (known also as one basic point)

A rep for my second to last post on this thread:

you mean, like this? ;)

Who is this!? It bumped me up quite a bit...this is weird.

My apologies, lady, that prankster was me :D I sought to amuse you, but have to step forward since reaction produced is bewildermant rather.

cheers

[Lhunardawen]

*gasp* When did you learn not to sign reps, HI? :eek:

On a side note, I'd like to thank Mith and Gurthang for getting me out of Aragorn's court and bringing me to Rivendell. :)

[Mithalwen]

*gasp* When did you learn not to sign reps, HI? :eek:

On a side note, I'd like to thank Mith and Gurthang for getting me out of Aragorn's court and bringing me to Rivendell. :)



For information

I have said it before but obviously too many pages back to be remembered..... I feel very uncomfortable about having my reps made public since I regard it as a private matter...Obviously when given it is the property of the recipient but if I have a public comment I make it publically otherwise I use the rep/PM system. I don't want to resort to giveing unsigned positive rep (and I would never leave unsigned neg rep) but if my actions are made public I will take this course rather than not rep at all.

[The Saucepan Man]

I have to agree with Mithalwen there. It is becoming all too frequent for people to publicise the reps that they have been given and, for the reasons that Mith has stated, I don't think that's a good thing. If you want to thank someone for a rep, please do so by PM.

[HerenIstarion]

I third the call for privacy.

The previous case of mine being an exeption, of course - what Aina published was genuine anonymous rating, she was in the right. It was of my own free will I acknowledged its authorship too. But that was more of a joke, all of it, than anything else

In general, since the 'rater' in the case is unknown, anonymous ratings may be published (I believe)

In signed cases, keep your repute private, ladies and gentlemen :)

[Formendacil]

Agreed.

Reputation-giving is a private matter.

Those with good reputation sound too selfish when they talk about it, and those with low reputation tend to sound embarrassed.

And it's obviously not intended for the general public.

If one wants to reply to signed rep, the PM system DOES work...

[Imladris]

I fifth the call for privacy. As has been said before, the reputation system is for quiet recognition, not something to be flaunted.

[Ainaserkewen]

My apologies, lady, that prankster was me I sought to amuse you, but have to step forward since reaction produced is bewildermant rather. No apologies needed, it did amusing me. I felt special and I though it was quite funny.

Though I'm all for privacy, it's pretty nice when someone important acknowledges your efforts. Congrats to all who've crossed over.

[Encaitare]

All who call for privacy regarding the rep system... your words are heard and I shall heed them. :)

[wilwarin538]

Right now I can only give 1 rep point but starting next wednesday it will move up to two, unless I make it to 200 rep points before then, then Ill be at three, or maybe I could post 616 posts before then also. So many possibilities. :D

[obloquy]

One time I got a positive rep on a post that was deleted by a moderator shortly after. :D

[Hookbill the Goomba]

One time I got a positive rep on a post that was deleted by a moderator shortly after. :D

I wonder why. Perhaps a moderator can tell us all why a reputation point would be deleted. So we all know for future times.

[Boromir88]

I wonder why. Perhaps a moderator can tell us all why a reputation point would be deleted. So we all know for future times.
I think obloquy was talking about the actual post being deleted. The post that someone repped him for actually got deleted, not the rep points themselves. ;)

[Amanaduial the archer]

Not a moderator, but just hazarding a guess, throwing in my '2 cents': what one person finds amusing or interesting, another may not, and similarly what may be considered by the author of the post and others on the board as well, may not actually be considered strictly suitable by a moderator and therefore deleted. Similarly it may just have such stupidly long sentences and awful grammar like this post that its simply a crying shame and would scare the children...

Just a thought. I mean, I've been surprised to be rated for a post before, a very short one - I wouldn't have expected to be rated for it, but someone on the board thought it was amusing, so, well, I ain't complaining. Similarly misunderstandings can come about from a post and so it may be rated negatively, even when the author did not mean it to be at all offensive - or it may be offensive yet someone finds it amusing and so positively rates it. If it actually is offensive or unsuitable, the moderators are just doing their job by deleting it. Don't worry, I'm fairly sure the admins don't roam the boards scrutinising reputations and then callously ghosting away the ones that have recieved rep points.

Well. Fairly sure. Who knows what admins do for a laugh? Off away in their barrows...busy moving in mysterious ways...

[Lhunardawen]

All who call for privacy regarding the rep system... your words are heard and I shall heed them. :) Same here. My sincerest apologies, Mith.

[Bêthberry]

Just as a point of information, given Hookbill's question, my understanding is that the all-mighty Barrow Wight can reset reputation points. I think he said he would use this option if the system were abused and someone maliciously or randomly started handing out negative reps to do serious damage to someone's reputation. I've never known him to do this, as likely it would bring a public statement of shame upon the perpetrator of said abuse. You know what I mean, the internet equivalent of stocks. ;)

But Boro is correct--Oblo was talking about having his post deleted, not his rep points. I think this is some kind of badge of honour for Oblo. :eek:

[Hookbill the Goomba]

Okay, fair enough. I must have misread Oblo's post.
I do that a lot.
In the Words of Douglas Adams, "We apologise for the inconvenience."

[Mithalwen]

Same here. My sincerest apologies, Mith.


well now I feel a bit mean... and I think I was over grouchy... and I didn't want to embarass Lhuna since it is the principle rather than the individual instance.... but it did make me uncomfortable ... partly becasue I am far more reserved in real life than on line and I was brought up that giving of all kinds should be done discreetly. And I don't give rep to get plaudits...

I haven't changed my criteria for rep as my own rep weight has increased - I rep what makes me laugh, what makes me think, what says what I have not the skill to express for myself... similarly I appreciate the kind comments of the newly dead as well as those of whom I was in total awe when I first arrived and whom I continue to admire. That I have now so many points is down to them and all the other downers who have taken the trouble to rep me. Truly I have only reached such heights because I was standing on the shoulders of Giants.

I find the rep system is useful as a guide to posting.... no " input" rep for a while is usually an indicator that I ned to make a bit more of an effort and on the "output side" I regard it as a variation on the pm system, another layer of dialogue not secret but more private. I just felt as if an "aside" had been picked up on a microphone :D

[Anguirel]

Actually I find low imput means I've been RPing a lot recently rather than posting Crazy Captions...bizarre that exercises in drama, characterisation, and general writing are rated so much less than a few cheap gags! I'm guilty of it too; I've only repped RP posts that make me shudder with laughter, mostly, incidentally, written by Kransha...

[The Saucepan Man]

There was a discussion a while back on whether RPG posts should be repped. I think that, if someone particuarly enjoys an RPG post, then they should rep it, just as they would rep a great insight during a book discussion or a witty post in Middle-Earth Mirth. Indeed, as far as I can see, the rep system should apply across the board. I have been known to rep posts in the Quiz and Quotes fora when I have thought a question to be particularly clever or a difficult question well answered.

[obloquy]

I hate when people say 'fora.'

[Lhunardawen]

Ironically, the most repped post (as of eons ago) came from The Green Dragon Inn.

[Boromir88]

There was a discussion a while back on whether RPG posts should be repped. I think that, if someone particuarly enjoys an RPG post, then they should rep it, just as they would rep a great insight during a book discussion or a witty post in Middle-Earth Mirth.
Occasionally I will give a rep to a really, really, well-written, intriguing post in an RPG. After being in a game that was fun, and conducted well, with very minor bumps (if any) I generally rep all the gamers that I enjoyed weeks of back and forth writing with. I think it is something that should go noticed. We have some talented writers here.

[Hookbill the Goomba]

I can't see why repping an RPG post would be a problem. I got repped for writing a poem in one, and that was nice. So I can't see what the problem is.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Ironically, the most repped post (as of eons ago) came from The Green Dragon Inn.

Whoops! Now you've got me started. :p

Why should that be 'ironic'? As a Shire moderator I probably have a bias here, but I do not see why a creative attempt at storytelling should merit less consideration for rep than a scholarly analysis of some aspect of Tolkien's writings.

Moreover, I frankly feel that Tolkien would have said the same thing. What primarily draws us to this site is Tolkien's creative work: his ability as a teller of tales, rather than as an academic. Yet, in the Letters, we are repeatedly reminded that Tolkien was somewhat embarassed by the amount of time he spent on his "private hobby". He felt defensive about his creative efforts and wondered if his fellow professors at Oxford would privately chide him for spending time on something as commonplace as storytelling and invented languages when he should have been engaging in more 'serious' pursuits. Tolkien's contributions as an academic are indeed very great. Yet as much as I value the commentator on Beowulf or the translator of Gawaine, it is the storyteller who holds the dearest place in my heart. If there is one thing that Tolkien teaches us, it is that we are all part of a greater story and that stories must be held dear....and that includes even the honest if flawed attempts that many make on this website.

Tolkien, moreover, intimated that his world was not a closed one. Perhaps knowing that he would never truly "finish" the Legendarium, at one point he suggested that others bring their talents to bear to flesh out the tales. This is certainly not to say that every RPG post rises to the level envisioned by Tolkien, but then neither does every book post. There is a range of quality in both. There are book posts that make me sit up and think, and for those I am immensely grateful. There are others that seem little more than tearing apart something that might be wiser to leave whole. (I am, of course, paraphrasing Tolkien here.)

At its very best, a strong RPG (or fanfiction story) not only shows evidence of the posters' writing skills and a strong mastery of the facts, but something more than that....the ability to reflect back Tolkien's spirit of Middle-earth in a believable fashion. That is a gift and should, in my opinion be acknowledged by a tip of the hat or the granting of rep.

Indeed, there is one thing that intrigues me. I may be off base here, but I wanted to share this thought and see if others felt the same. When I first came on this board a number of years ago, there were many serious threads directed at the material in Silm and HoMe. I remember drawing back and feeling rather intimidated because I feared I lacked the in-depth knowledge to contribute to such discussions. Today, there seem to be far fewer threads focusing on this "historical" material (meaning pre-LotR). The best of our current book discussions tend to be literary or philosophical in nature treating the history only in passing. The one place on the site where 'history' now dominates are the RPGs. More and more of these tales explore the earlier history in some form or fashion. And I do think that is worthy of acknowledgement, whether by rep or some other means.

Rant over.... :D

[Mithalwen]

I am all for repping RPG - it is just that I don't read a lot of it unless I am involved in it. I have been known to rep particularly cunning / skilfully crafted Quiz questions or answers. They may also be manifestations of great knowledge and love of the Prof's work.

If I have made a change in my repping, it has been to try to cast my net wider. I don't always succeed but I regard it as a failure if I get the command to spread it around to often... but then it is hard not too when some folks post so well so consistently.......or just make me laugh so much... :D

[mormegil]

The way I look at the whole thing is this: It is my rep and I will give it out to whoever/whatever I feel deserves it. Weather that is a crazy caption/ RPG/ a good point that I may or may not agree with but made me think. I don't think there is anything right or wrong to rep just so long as the person who read it enjoyed it and felt like giving it. I've probably been "guilty" of giving rep to post that the author didn't find overwhelmingly great but I enjoyed...so there! :p

[alatar]

First, let me confess that I'm a rep junky. There's nothing like a cup of percolated coffee, a frosted donut and a rep to start the day off right.

But it's not the points that are the addiction, but the comments that are attached. As I don't 'PM' (whatever that is), or email, or correspond with other wights beyond postings and rep, I find rep to be my little message board for the BD world. Rep is somewhat like "you've got mail from the Barrow."

I give rep not only to acknowledge a great post, but, as others have stated, for posts that are unusual for some reason - they make me smile, think, laugh, act, etc. As I was encouraged by rep when I started here, I've hoped to do the same now that I'm 'older.'

And as I'm confessing, I would let it be known that I'm a hypocrite in regards to rep. I enjoy a detailed rep explanation, but have more than once sent "Nice post" as my comment. With time and therapy, would hope to change that.