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Shelob

08-20-2005, 08:56 PM

On the assumption that you're talking about the three highest (descended from groveling stone-trolls; was misplaced by a forgetful maia; being stalked by pretty dwarves) I have three guesses...since Oddwen's mention of The Hobbit brought them to my mind...

being stalked by pretty dwarves -- In Chapter 2 ("Roast Mutton") when Bilbo was captured by the trolls "The dwarves ... started off one by one to creep towards the light as quietly as they could." I don't quite get where the 'pretty' comes from, but the 'stalked' would be because the dwarves followed Bilbo stealthily and without trying to draw attention to themselves.

was misplaced by a forgetful maia -- Between Chapters 4 and 6 ("Over Hill and Under Hill" and "Out of the Frying-Pan into the Fire") when Dori drops Bilbo while they're escaping from the goblins and Gandalf, by dint of not checking that everybody had followed, looses Bilbo in the mountains. "'If we can only find him again...'" ~Gandalf

descended from groveling stone-trolls -- the sketchiest of them all -- Between the very end of Chapter 12 and the begining of Chapter 13 ("The Clouds Burst" and "The Return Journey") When Bilbo is hit on the head with "a stone hurtling from above". This is kinda based on the theory that trolls, esp. stone-trolls, would have very thick skulls and that 'groveling' could be no more than a reference to hight (ie: shorter, or just plain little)...working from that Bilbo does say "'A nasty knock on the head, I think ... But I have a helm and a hard skull."

It's the best I can do...esp. given it's now almost 11 at night...as for a binding thread between them, well, they're all things that happened to Bilbo...In The Hobbit ...I don't know...I can't even think straight, but maybe it'll help someone else...

Shelob

08-20-2005, 10:23 PM

Well...I missed the lists people had so kindly made before and then couldn't get to sleep 'cause this was bugging me...however, I can add those levels now...

steals taters from gaffers--no idea...unless by "taters" you mean "tots" as in all the youngsters who liked to listen to his stories...but that doesn't make sense even to me...
wonders what happened to the system--after Bilbo had to clean up for the dwarfs and he doesn't dust like always, when Gandalf says "You are not at all yourself this morning --you have never dusted the mantelpiece"
is stalked by petty dwarves--I still think it's the bit with the trolls...though I do realize now that it says "petty" not "pretty"
is terrorizing the wood elves--While Bilbo is living, invisible, in the Elven-kings palace, or (and this could fit 'terrorizing' better) when he sneaks out with the Arkenstone and while fording the stream some elves take him as a spy

In anycase with the exception of the tater's one they all still fit as things which happen to Bilbo in The Hobbit

Nilpaurion Felagund

08-21-2005, 05:11 AM

They're all related to the Downs?

Lhunardawen

08-21-2005, 05:14 AM

All of these wild and complicated theories aren't even close. As I said before, there was little to no effort put into chosing these titles, and yet they all came from the same place. :smokin: The books of J. R. R. Tolkien, of course. ;) :p

Gurthang

08-21-2005, 08:11 AM

Blast you, The Barrow-Wight! I don't think you really know where these came from. They are just out of your demented(no offense) head to cause us grief and turmoil. I am sick of trying to get this figured out. I'll probably still think on it, which doesn't make me the slight bit happier! :mad: ;)

Meneltarmacil

08-21-2005, 01:15 PM

Well, Lal currently "looks like a muddy-booted Baggins," so it is looking more and more like Bilbo does have something to do with it after all. Not sure what this refers to, though, as Hobbits don't usually wear boots.

Mithalwen

08-21-2005, 01:16 PM

Lal now looks like a muddy-booted Baggins!!!! Curiouser and Curiouser.......

wilwarin538

08-21-2005, 04:52 PM

Actually, she is now "dating a horrible Dunlending". Cangrats! :p :D ;)

Gurthang

08-21-2005, 04:57 PM

Yeah, Wilwa, that's how I read it too. How did she get up another level that quickly, that we didn't even notice her at the other level?

Encaitare

08-21-2005, 05:39 PM

Actually, she is now "dating a horrible Dunlending".

I think BW has completely cracked. :p

Meneltarmacil

08-21-2005, 05:51 PM

I honestly can't find much of a way to make all of these crazy titles fit together. If they have any kind of connection, it escapes me.

Firefoot

08-21-2005, 07:41 PM

Davem is a horrible Dunlending!? :eek: ;)

Lalwendë

08-22-2005, 02:33 AM

That's weird - I didn't get that many points as far as I can remember? Maybe B-W is amusing himself with this? ;)

No, davem is not a horrible Dunlending. He might be a nice Dunlending, but is only horrible when he blows his pipe smoke at me in a morning. :eek: :)

Gurthang

08-22-2005, 06:54 AM

Perhaps it has something to do with PJ's roles in the movies. I've heard he played a Dunlending in TTT, and I know he was a hobbit standing in the street in the Fellowship. I don't really know where the others fit in, but if this is true, I would gues the next level is:

[BD's name] is a drowned sea rat.

Since PJ was a captain of one of the corsairs.

Feanor of the Peredhil

08-22-2005, 07:02 AM

I think BW has completely cracked. :p
I think Encai figured it out.

steals taters from gaffers
wonders what happened to the system
is stalked by petty dwarves
is terrorizing the wood elves
was once misplaced by forgetful maia
descended from groveling stone-trolls
looks like a muddy-booted Baggins
dating a horrible Dunlending

At first I was convinced that there was some sort of fascinating connexion or parallel to the books that we were just over-looking. But people just don't date Dunlendings. Except Lal, of course. ;)

Now I'm convinced that there are two options: these phrases are plays on words... or The Barrow-Wight made stuff up and is sitting in his Barrow-Chair laughing maniacally at the power he so obviously has over all of our minds.

HerenIstarion

08-22-2005, 07:37 AM

Whatever

Continuing along the line of Middle-Earth magnets (and Madlibs and Malbeth as suggested by Esty), let me put forward a supposition the titles are somehow generated in Middle Earth Name Generator.

I've tried to model some of the previous titles and got quite funny results (nothing close to actual titles, but still):

According to the Red Book of Westmarch, In Middle-earth...

member started path to adventure was a Staggering Valar

member is getting the hang of it was a Wicked Ghost

member is no fool of a Took was a Overweight Neekerbreeker

member is faithfull as Samwise was a Overgrown Ringwraith

member has shown the wisdom of Gandalf was a Loved Gamgee

member has the fame of Frodo was a Creepy Bird-tamer

member would be welcome at Aragorn's court was a Loathsome Black Rider

member has a place at Elrond's council was a Angry Nazgûl

member is bound for the Straight Road was a Talkative Hobbit

member sits on high Taniquetil was a Powerful Wizard

the phantom

08-22-2005, 07:56 AM

let me put forward a supposition the titles are somehow generated in Middle Earth Name Generator
Perhaps...

I've noticed that when you plug in the names of certain members, interesting results come back.

Give "estelyn telcontar" and "mister underhill" a try...

the guy who be short

08-22-2005, 08:01 AM

So... the new titles refer to Administrators and Moderators' names shoved into the generator.

Feanor of the Peredhil

08-22-2005, 08:08 AM

TP, the only consolation is that I beat you to Taniquetil.

dancing spawn of ungoliant

08-22-2005, 08:14 AM

This was posted in the Future of the Downs thread.The phantom will take one look at the reps thread and figure it out Pretty good prediction...

HerenIstarion

08-22-2005, 08:15 AM

Estelyn Telcontar was a
Forgetful Maiar

Aiwendil was a
Miruvor-drinking Orcling

Amanaduial the archer was a
Adventurous Beorning

Aylwen Dreamsong was a
Hideous Kin-slayer

Bêthberry was a
Frightened Avari

Child of the 7th Age was a
Laughing Ent

Legolas was a
Amorous Healer

lindil was a
Stunning Ranger of Ithilien

piosenniel was a
Dancing Mûmak

Rimbaud was a
Sorrowful Maiar

The Saucepan Man was a
Friendly Istari

Mister Underhill was a
Groveling Stone-troll

The Barrow-Wight was a
Confused Avari

Sharkû was a
Unwanted Easterling

Thenamir was a
Evil Eorling

Mithadan was a
Daring Baggins

Gilthalion was a
Illiterate Bird-tamer

Barrow-Admin was a
Cheerful Cave-Troll

Two matches so far...

the phantom

08-22-2005, 08:18 AM

Is it an amazing coincidence, or have we begun to solve the puzzle?

Start plugging things into the generator- personal titles, birthdays, names, join dates, sigs... everything you can think of. We'll see where it leads. If you get a positive result on anything, toss it up here on the thread.

(btw, if you plug in "Amanaduial the archer" and "the phantom", you get the same thing- strange, eh?)

Feanor of the Peredhil

08-22-2005, 08:24 AM

We've got it, darlings, or the phantom has... the jerk.

Eomer of the Rohirrim is a Frightened Wood-Elf
Boromir88 is a Confused Gaffer
Hookbill the Goomba is a Muddy-Booted Baggins
the phantom is a Grovelling Hill-Troll (or was that stone?)
Lhunardawen is a Horrible Dunlending.

HerenIstarion

08-22-2005, 08:25 AM

Doing it :D

Eomer of the Rohirrim was a
Frightened Wood-Elf

That's three so far

Edit:

Cross-posted here, it seems we have six matches:

Estelyn Telcontar was a
Forgetful Maiar

Mister Underhill was a
Groveling Stone-troll

Eomer of the Rohirrim was a
Frightened Wood-Elf

Lhunardawen was a
Horrible Dunlending

Hookbill the Goomba was a
Muddy-Booted Baggins

Boromir88 was a
Confused Gaffer

Not forum leaders, obviously. Hm-mm...

Oddwen

08-22-2005, 08:28 AM

So...is it the Ranks sorted by reputation on the Member's List?

Feanor of the Peredhil

08-22-2005, 08:33 AM

It can't be, Oddy, because there seems no particular pattern by way of rank. Unless... *Fea runs off*

Heren, we're up to more than that.

Esty
Underhillo
'Mer
B88
Hookbill
Lhuna
maybe-phantom

Edit: I'm thinking maybe the latest Reps are named after the "Top" Reputation Givers? Only it doesn't seem to match up... but then again, that list hasn't been updated in about a month.

HerenIstarion

08-22-2005, 08:46 AM

I've modified the post above to reflect 6 matches, Fea :)

Now let us find the criterion:

It is not Barrow-Benefactors, not Top Reputation Givers/Receivers, not people with highest repute or highest post count... m-mm, not members picked by year of joining the forum (eomer 2002, boromir 2004, Underhill 2000, Estelyn 2002, Lhunardawen 2003, Hookbil 2003, we lack 2001 and 2005), not by the first letter of their screennames...

May it be BW stuck names at random, just as we now do, and has chosen funniest titles returned at random?

Hookbill the Goomba

08-22-2005, 08:46 AM

So...is it the Ranks sorted by reputation on the Member's List?

The top ten Downers with highest Rep as of... two minuets ago. and what they are in the Name generator.

#1 Lalwendë = Crying Vanyar

#2 davem = Frightened Wood-Elf *

#3 The Saucepan Man = Friendly Istari

#4 Bêthberry = Sword-swinging Haradrim

#5 HerenIstarion = Stuttering Rohirrim

#6 Eomer of the Rohirrim = Frightened Wood-Elf *

#7 Fordim Hedgethistle = Fearless Nazgûl

#8 Mithalwen = Handsome Kin-slayer

#9 Boromir88 = Confused Gaffer*

#10 Hookbill the Goomba = Muddy-booted Baggins*

*Titles that have been spotted.

the phantom

08-22-2005, 08:53 AM

Perhaps someone can find a thread all of these people have posted on- even in order maybe?

Or a list that they all appear on?

Bêthberry

08-22-2005, 09:05 AM

The top ten Downers with highest Rep as of... two minuets ago. and what they are in the Name generator.

#1 Lalwendë = Crying Vanyar

#2 davem = Frightened Wood-Elf *

#3 The Saucepan Man = Friendly Istari

#4 Bêthberry = Sword-swinging Haradrim

#5 HerenIstarion = Stuttering Rohirrim

#6 Eomer of the Rohirrim = Frightened Wood-Elf *

#7 Fordim Hedgethistle = Fearless Nazgûl

#8 Mithalwen = Handsome Kin-slayer

#9 Boromir88 = Confused Gaffer*

#10 Hookbill the Goomba = Muddy-booted Baggins*

*Titles that have been spotted.

But I just entered 'Bethberry' into the Name Generator now and this is what I got:

According to the Red Book of Westmarch,
In Middle-earth, Bethberry was a
World-famous Bounder

Although 'Beth Berry' produces:

According to the Red Book of Westmarch,
In Middle-earth, Beth Berry was a
Drunken Ghost

:D

Feanor of the Peredhil

08-22-2005, 09:14 AM

Perhaps someone can find a thread all of these people have posted onThey've all posted on here at least once.

Or a list that they all appear on?Yeah... this one. :p

PS: Did you guys know we have a member named "Petty Dwarf"?

the phantom

08-22-2005, 09:18 AM

Or a list that they all appear on?
Yeah... this one.
Impressive, Fea. That is quite an astounding find.

The value of your input cannot even begin to be measured.

;)

dancing spawn of ungoliant

08-22-2005, 09:23 AM

According to the Red Book of Westmarch,
In Middle-earth, Bethberry was a
World-famous Bounder Try again with Bêthberry. ;)

Any chance it would go somehow alphabetically?

Boromir88 = Confused Gaffer
...
Davem = Frightened Wood-Elf
Estelyn Telcontar = Forgetful Maiar
...
Hookbill = Muddy-booted Baggins

Feanor of the Peredhil

08-22-2005, 09:28 AM

The value of your input cannot even begin to be measured.
Try using the metric system.

Perhaps we're over-thinking it again. He said that it was absurdly easy. We figured out that he used the name generator. Maybe he just picked the funniest names, like Heren said.

Bêthberry

08-22-2005, 09:43 AM

Try again with Bêthberry. ;)

Precisely, dancing spawn. You have successfully proven my secretly intended operationalisation of the importance of the little marky thingies over vowels for all those too lazy to type them in.

You may move to the head of the class. :D

The Saucepan Man

08-22-2005, 09:54 AM

Well done, HerenIstarion and the phantom for cracking the code. :smokin:

I suspect that BW just fed some names in at random and picked the best ones. But, just in case there is something more to this, here are the Rep levels (in order) and the matches to date:

Steals taters from confused gaffers - Boromir88 was a Confused Gaffer.

Wonders what happened to the reputation system - Probably no match.

Is stalked by petty dwarves - ? was an Amorous Petty Dwarf?

Likes terrorizing wood-elves - davem and Eomer of the Rohirrim were both Frightened Wood-Elves.

Was once misplaced by a forgetful maiar - Estelyn Telcontar was a Forgetful Maiar.

Is descended from grovelling stone trolls - Mister Underhill was a Groveling Stone-Troll.

Looks like a muddy-booted Baggins - Hookbill the Goomba was a Muddy-Booted Baggins.

Is dating a horrible Dunlending - Lhunardawen was a Horrible Dunlending.So - is there any further logic to the system? And, if so, can we find the Amorous Petty Dwarf? :D

Bêthberry

08-22-2005, 10:06 AM

Well, Squatter used to have the closing signature on his emails, "Greetings from the petty dwarf", but those emails to me were never amorous. You'll have to ask Lush about hers though.

:smokin:

Hookbill the Goomba

08-22-2005, 10:14 AM

Ah HA! I think I may just have cracked it!

Look at 'the guy who be short' on the Name generator. You get "Six-toothed Dwarf"

As The Guy who be short is a dwarf, can we assume that that is where Petty Dwarf comes from? It’s the best I could come up with.

Eomer of the Rohirrim

08-22-2005, 10:30 AM

All I found was an amorous dragon. ;)

Who would have thought that this 'treasure hunt' could be so much fun? :)

The Saucepan Man

08-22-2005, 10:42 AM

'Creepy' is another adjective that the generator uses, so it could be ? was a Creepy Petty Dwarf ...

Hookbill the Goomba

08-22-2005, 10:46 AM

Eomer, did you capitalise 'the guy who be short' ? Because I didn't. Does that make any difference? But all the same, this is what I got...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/hukbillgoomba/0000Dwarf.jpg

So there! :p

Eomer of the Rohirrim

08-22-2005, 12:45 PM

I did not capitalise.

And davem is not a frightened wood-elf according to my generator.

arcticstorm

08-22-2005, 12:49 PM

#2 davem = Frightened Wood-Elf *

The only problem here is that Davem only becomes a frightened Wood-elf if you put a space after his name, otherwise he is a, I beleive it was a regretful barrow-wight.

Hookbill the Goomba

08-22-2005, 12:51 PM

The only problem here is that Davem only becomes a frightened Wood-elf if you put a space after his name, otherwise he is a, I beleive it was a regretful barrow-wight.

Ah, okay, that'll be my mistake. Sorry folks :(

the guy who be short

08-22-2005, 12:52 PM

Wow... Odd how that prediction came true.

I doubt the petty dwarf refers to me - I'm not really as established on the Downs as all the others.

wilwarin538

08-22-2005, 01:22 PM

I would like to thank Durelin and Hookbill, because of their recent reps I am now in Elrond's council. :D

Oh and all of you who figured out where the rep titles came from, you guys are guineouses(I think thats spelled wrong :rolleyes: ). I would never have thought about the name generator. Good job! :D

Hookbill the Goomba

08-22-2005, 01:25 PM

I doubt the petty dwarf refers to me - I'm not really as established on the Downs as all the others.

Well, I'm not exactly an 'established' Downer. I'm just that annoying little creature everyone tries to ignore on Crazy Captions.
Speaking of ignoring, ignore that list of mine as I think I put a space after every one so it will have changed most of them to what you'd get otherwise.

the guy who be short

08-22-2005, 01:49 PM

Well, everybody knows who The Goomba is... you've been here for ages.

Anyway, I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief at the revelation that B-W is not, infact, insane.

Well, perhaps that was a little presumptious. Well, the reps aren't the product of his insanity. :p

Encaitare

08-22-2005, 03:14 PM

Trying plugging in more names to see what matches...

the phantom was a groveling hill-troll

Amanaduial the archer was a groveling hill-troll

Saurreg was an amorous dragon (maybe this goes back to the idea of Thorin and co. being petty in the greedy sense)

That's of the first three member pages sorted by rep (the manes that have already found matches not included).

Fordim Hedgethistle

08-22-2005, 03:52 PM

#7 Fordim Hedgethistle = Fearless Nazgûl

:eek: I just knew it was a mistake RPing as a Ring Wraith, not once (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=10835) but twice (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=11357).

The Barrow-Wight

08-22-2005, 05:00 PM

OK, OK. You've got it, or close enough, though i have no idea who to credit. The answer I was looking for was that the 'titles came from the All-In-One Name Generators, resulting from inputting names from some of our members with the highest reputations.

I thoughtYou've generated quite a list there, but it's not nearly so complicated as that. All of the newest title names (well, most of them) have one root source. would give it away, but, alas, most people seem to have forgotten there is a www.barrowdowns.com, and are only just now rediscovering its existence.

Gurthang

08-22-2005, 09:05 PM

So then perhaps the next will be:

[BDer's name] is being laughed at by Easterlings.

OR

[BDer's name] has as few teeth as Gollum.

Now that would be funny! :D

the guy who be short

08-23-2005, 07:03 AM

I still think you should give the points to yourself, B-W - after all, you did figure it out first. Either that or give them to Lalwende so we can see the next level. :D

Meneltarmacil

08-23-2005, 07:13 AM

Lal is currently "taking advantage of friendly Istari," and:

The Saucepan Man was a
Friendly Istari
I wonder what will be next...

PS: Apparently, I'm a Beautiful Dragon. Weird...

The Saucepan Man

08-23-2005, 07:15 AM

I guess that I'm the Friendly Istari that Lalwende is currently taking advantage of ... :eek:

Feanor of the Peredhil

08-23-2005, 07:19 AM

Lal, I never would have thought it of you. And Saucie, you for letting her. :p

Oh, and B-W, you should distribute points to all of us for being so tenacious and clever. Aren't you proud of your little wights? ;)

Mithalwen

08-23-2005, 10:12 AM

And what does davem think ... could be frying pans at dawn at twenty paces ... I think I still have Fordim's Gauntlet somewhere.........

The Saucepan Man

08-23-2005, 10:32 AM

Hey! I'm the innocent party in all of this. I'm far more interested in terrorising wood-elves.

Mind you, given that davem is a Frightened Wood-Elf, perhaps he does have a valid grievance ... :D

Mithalwen

08-23-2005, 10:37 AM

I should say so.... being terrorised by someone who is "being taken advantage of " by his betrothed.... shameful... poor chap is surely wandering around crying "Infamy! Infamy!"

The Saucepan Man

08-23-2005, 11:12 AM

... poor chap is surely wandering around crying "Infamy! Infamy!"... they've all got it in-fa-my! :D

Quite. I am sure that davem's ancestor, Mister Underhill the Grovelling Stone Troll, would be most shocked. ;)

the guy who be short

08-24-2005, 03:38 PM

I've finally got to Taniquetil, since having one box in about May/June. That was my aim a while back, you see, when it still appeared to be the highest level possible. Ah well, onwards to new goals. :D

Lhunardawen

08-24-2005, 11:51 PM

I guess that I'm the Friendly Istari that Lalwende is currently taking advantage of ... :eek: So does that make me the horrible Dunlending she dated? :eek: :eek:

Eomer of the Rohirrim

08-25-2005, 06:30 AM

I would like to suggest that there is another level to the cruelty of Lalwendë. She terrorized me, but she also used some sort of amnesia spell to wipe my memory clean; for I have no recollection of this torture.

Though I'm fairly certain that my arms weren't always at this angle....

Confess!

the guy who be short

08-25-2005, 02:24 PM

Hmm, I just got a blue/grey box for this (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=407532#post407532) post. Was it meant to be positive or negative? Own up, ye anonymous!

Eomer, I think you're a little confused. Amnesia is beyond even the skill of Lalwende - she simply spray painted your car during the night. :D

Estelyn Telcontar

08-25-2005, 02:28 PM

The blue box is neutral - it means you were given a reputation by someone, usually a newcomer, who does not yet have points to give. Whether it was meant to be positive or negative can't be seen unless there's a comment included.

Meneltarmacil

08-25-2005, 07:39 PM

So does that make me the horrible Dunlending she dated? You actually appear to be dating davem at the moment. I'd watch out for Lalwendë if I were you. :p

Encaitare

08-25-2005, 08:08 PM

You actually appear to be dating davem at the moment. I'd watch out for Lalwendë if I were you.

No, Lhuna should be safe for now -- remember, Lal's busy taking advantage of Saucie. :eek: :p :D

Lhunardawen

08-26-2005, 02:36 AM

(Wow. In a few months' time I would have probably dated five BDers or so. I'm that irresistible, huh? ;) )

Now, now, Lalwendavem...I know nothing about this. Honest!

But then again, this could be of your doing. Whatever your motives are, I have no idea. That makes me concur with Eomer that a mind control technique or a drug of some sort is being utilized by these two. We're being violated without us knowing it, big bro! :eek:

Eomer of the Rohirrim

08-26-2005, 05:44 AM

Well, as is demonstrated by this system, we are clearly pawns of The Barrow-Wight. But we already knew that. I would never have guessed that we'd all become the playthings of Lal, davem, and Sauce though. :eek:

I can take it though. I'll have my vengeance sooner or later. *hunts for little green boxes*

Meneltarmacil

08-26-2005, 05:47 PM

The Saucepan Man is currently dating a horrible Dunlending. So that means both he and davem are dating Lhunardawen. Guess there's more than Canonicity for them to fight over now. ;)

Lalwendë, meanwhile, is going out with a creepy Nazgul. Not sure how they rate compared with horrible Dunlendings, but I'll bet that their Black Breath is probably going to be a problem.

And I have recently become welcome at Aragorn's court, by the way.

Bêthberry

08-27-2005, 05:37 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen of the fora and esteemed fellow Barrow Downers, it is with great sadness that I make this announcement.

For the foreseeable future, when I rep you, I will be unable to provide the high number of rep points to which you have become accustomed upon receiving a rep from me.

"No!" you gasp. "Why? What have we done?"

"Nothing," I say. "It lies beyong my control and 'tis nothing you have done."

"How so, she who once was waylaid by a forgetful Maia?"

"I have been diminished."

GASPS! Cries of "Noooo!" and, truth be told, a chortle or two.

"Beth, you haven't bounded over the Fellowship poll and taken the One Ring for yourself, have you?" cried one frightened voice.

"Nay, not so. Would Beth succumb so easily to one of Fordim's polls? Has she ever even voted on one of Fordim's polls?"

"What then," cries Fea of the White Horse and several Werewolf games?

"I have been smited."

"Smited? Is that like slaked?" cried one wit.

Wisely, then, I take the hint and decide to drag this soap opera out no longer.

My fellow Downers, I have been negative repped, secretly, in the dark hours of the Downs over night and while we all slept.

Forsooth! I have earned the enmity of someone. Someone who has not come forth to make his (or her) name known, but who choose to object to my humour nonetheless. And left a question. Now, how can I answer this question if I don't know who left it?

'don't suppose these websites explained' - I would suppose they did. Why would you blindly suppose otherwise?

And t'was this post which earned my doom (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=406937&postcount=7)

What can I say? How to explain to thin air? To a wraith who wanders without leaving much trace?

But, to close: Fellow Downers, bear with me I say. I will endeavour quickly to earn your accolades so I can continue to reward you for your wit and charm and cleverness and overcome this slighting by one who robbed me of, well, it was less than 10 points actually. But I thinkI did drop a bit. ;)

:D

Eomer of the Rohirrim

08-27-2005, 06:08 AM

You'd make a good politician Bb. ;)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh

08-27-2005, 06:44 AM

Ten whole points. That's a formidable member you've offended there, Bêthberry. If you're not careful you'll be back to 'getting the hang of it' before too long.

Serves you right for talking posh. Rather than risk an accusation of euphuism through a potentially equivocal use of the indirect question, it would have been more felicitous to employ the more lucid prosody that is a sine qua non of electronic discourse. After all, there are some people who wouldn't even understand the foregoing sentence, which exemplifies limpidity. ;)

I don't expect that putting God in quotation marks helped, even to point out that He was missing His customary capital. :smokin:

HerenIstarion

08-27-2005, 07:06 AM

Rather than risk an accusation of euphuism through a potentially equivocal use of the indirect question, it would have been more felicitous to employ the more lucid prosody that is a sine qua non of electronic discourse. After all, there are some people who wouldn't even understand the foregoing sentence, which exemplifies limpidity

um... I for one?

Let's try and translate, though:

Instead of talking posh and being accused of pomposity, cause the question there may have been misunderstood since it sounded like having more than one hidden meaning, it would have been more appropriate to use plainer sentence construction, which is one of the requirements when talking over the net. There are some which won't get this one either, though it is a good sample of what clear talking is

There, I hope it is more or less corresponding

Oddwen

08-27-2005, 09:02 AM

Hmm...got to wondering last night...if one year of being Dead = one rep point, do those who joined in "1969" have 34 points just for that? :eek: Or...not?

wilwarin538

08-27-2005, 09:27 AM

Well Lal is now back on Taniquetil. ;)

Bêthberry

08-27-2005, 09:53 AM

You'd make a good politician Bb.

Alas, alas, Eomer, what party would I join? Once upon a time there was a Rhinoceros Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros_Party_of_Canada) in Canada ... but only in Canada. Would you be thinking of starting up a Wargian Party?

If you're not careful you'll be back to 'getting the hang of it' before too long.

Serves you right for talking posh. Rather than risk an accusation of euphuism through a potentially equivocal use of the indirect question, it would have been more felicitous to employ the more lucid prosody that is a sine qua non of electronic discourse. After all, there are some people who wouldn't even understand the foregoing sentence, which exemplifies limpidity.

Always the grammarian, eh Squatter? Actually, I wouldn't be too surprised if I do start 'slipping'. I've actually for some time now been expecting something like that to happen as in my experience the reps I receive have at times been somewhat random.

Let's try and translate, though:

Quote:
Instead of talking posh and being accused of pomposity, cause the question there may have been misunderstood since it sounded like having more than one hidden meaning, it would have been more appropriate to use plainer sentence construction, which is one of the requirements when talking over the net. There are some which won't get this one either, though it is a good sample of what clear talking is

There, I hope it is more or less corresponding

You're a braver man than I am, Heren-Din, taking Squatter's words and putting their facsimile in his mouth. ;)

Gurthang

08-28-2005, 01:56 AM

I would just like to take this oppurtunity to thank all of you who gave me reps for the WWIIX game. I didn't quite expect that many... for losing! Imagine if I had won...

I also want to point out that there are 31 downers who have now acheived the once coveted eleven boxes! I am very new to the number.

It was a secret goal of mine to achieve eleven before the first page in the Members list was full of such highly reputed members. Alas, The Squatter came up and passed me just prior to me turning to the Straight Road. Congrats to you Squatter, you stole my goal, as mundane and pointless as it was. :rolleyes: :D

Glirdan

08-28-2005, 07:38 AM

I would like to at this time thank all those who repped me for my "Crazy Captions" posts. I was really, REALLY surprised at that. But all the same, thanks. And thank you to those people who got me to being "As Faithful As Samwise"! Thank you a lot.

the guy who be short

08-28-2005, 11:00 AM

Well Lal is now back on Taniquetil.Hmmm. The implication here is that she (and the others) had to come off Taniquetil to perform all the other tasks in their rep levels. So we can presume there were no petty-dwarves on Taniquetil - unless perhaps they just don't stalk people up there.

Serves you right for talking posh. Rather than risk an accusation of euphuism through a potentially equivocal use of the indirect question, it would have been more felicitous to employ the more lucid prosody that is a sine qua non of electronic discourse. After all, there are some people who wouldn't even understand the foregoing sentence, which exemplifies limpidity.Bold words are words that I didn't know the meaning of prior to Heren's interpretation. Thanks to both Squatter for extending my vocabulary, and H-I for allowing me to do so with minimal effort on my part. :D

wilwarin538

08-28-2005, 04:55 PM

My Eru! :eek: Saucie is now above davem in the rep list.

wilwarin538

08-28-2005, 05:49 PM

Well I just got a rep for my latest Crazy Caption which had this message:

Sounds like one I did ages ago, but it's still hilarious. Have you heard the "Angie" one?...§

It wasn't signed, but now I'm curious to what this "Angie one" is. Could whoever this was pm me and tell me about the "Angie one". :D Thanks for the rep...whoever you are. *stares dreamy eyed into the distance* ;)

The Only Real Estel

08-28-2005, 05:55 PM

That symbol looks like the one Boromir88 uses on his rep notes. Hmm... ;)

One a reputation note, I remember once in this thread the B-W posted the most repped post. I wonder if davem still holds that distinction or if someone else has wrested it from him? :confused:

Ainaserkewen

08-29-2005, 10:30 PM

My Eru! Saucie is now above davem in the rep list.
Wil, when I read this it conjured up a mental image of turtles racing.

"And now ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Saucie the Turtle has past Davem the turtle at the breakneck speed of a good post=a good rep! I'm on the edge of my chair and my backside has fallen asleep! Isn't this exciting!"

HerenIstarion

08-30-2005, 12:28 AM

overcome this slighting by one who robbed me of, well, it was less than 10 points actually

Just found out - the negative 'power' is half that of the positive. I.e, if you get 9 negative points it means that if you were rated positive by the same member, you would have got 18

Just an info

Bêthberry

08-30-2005, 06:35 AM

Just found out - the negative 'power' is half that of the positive. I.e, if you get 9 negative points it means that if you were rated positive by the same member, you would have got 18

Just an info

Fascinating. And how did you find this out, HI?

HerenIstarion

08-30-2005, 06:41 AM

Rated my alter ego negative and than checked up alter ego's CP

the guy who be short

08-30-2005, 07:02 AM

Poor Roggie.

Eomer now steals taters. May your coming revenge be sweet, Horsemaster. ;)

wilwarin538

08-30-2005, 07:11 AM

Congratulations my dear Eomer! :D ;) I myself am this close to getting my tenth box. ;)

EDIT: Ok maybe not that close, but I did just get box #9!

Bêthberry

08-31-2005, 09:52 AM

Rumour has it that reputations are being won and lost in a party game in Rohan. And apparently squatters are being allowed!

All Downers are Unforbidden (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=409574#post409574) in this celebration of the return of the dark screen.

Meneltarmacil

08-31-2005, 03:57 PM

Boromir88 was lately seen stealing taters from confused gaffers. Fordim probably won't be far behind. davem is back on Taniquetil, while The Saucepan Man is going out with a creepy Nazgul. :eek: Meanwhile, Bêthberry looks like a muddy-booted Baggins, probably due to "Unforbidden."

I wonder if there are more new titles to be had after one "has mounted Taniquetil again"?

Orominuialwen

09-01-2005, 01:43 AM

I have just discovered something new about the reputations system. I recently neg-repped somebody for the first time. (It was for very bad behavior, and it was signed.) After doing so, in order to not run into problems because I forgot my rep was set to negative, I decide to give positive rep to a post I'd been meaning to give rep to anyway. When I went to do so, my box had been automatically reset to positive. I don't know if this was just a fluke or what, but hopefully it will help eliminate accidental neg-reps in the future. Just wanted to let you know! :)

Lhunardawen

09-01-2005, 02:36 AM

I think I know who you neg-repped, Oromin. I was about to myself, but I figured it would be all too pointless.

The Saucepan Man

09-01-2005, 03:48 AM

Hehe. I negatively repped Immasamurai, not because I thought that anything was likely to be acheived by it, but because it seemed a suitable opportunity to try to discover the next level of unpopularity.

And lo and behold, Immasamurai is now known to make more trouble then Gollum. Rather appropriate, doncha think? :D

So, the known neg rep levels are:

... is slipping.
... has been acting a bit like Ted Sandyman.
... is as unpopular as Bill Ferny
... makes more trouble than Gollum.

Lalwendë

09-01-2005, 04:35 AM

I've never yet neg-repped anyone (mainly 'cause if I think someone's been out of order then I'd rather take it up privately) but I am now tempted to do so with this Troll. I'd normally ignore them until they crawled back under their stone but it is tempting to find out what the lower levels might be...or should I just carry on ignoring? :rolleyes:

Hookbill the Goomba

09-01-2005, 04:47 AM

Why not make an experiment? Someone should make a new user just to get neg-repped so we can see the lower levels! That's one way.

The Saucepan Man

09-01-2005, 04:53 AM

Immasamurai now has two red boxes! The first such boxes ever seen on the rep table.

I am sure that his(?) account will be closed before long but, until then, I say that we should continue to experiment on this troublesome troll. :D

Bêthberry

09-01-2005, 06:32 AM

I was just so gosh darned frustrated last night. As soon as I or Child deleted one of Immasamurai's posts or threads, he'd start up another and there wasn't an Admin in sight. Lal was so right about the uselessness of PMing him. So, I decided to negative rep him because, well, as other have said here, I thought it was the perfect opportunity to nether side of our repuptation system.

But it wasn't our troll who was the most frustrating. No! It was the failsafe system of our rep system.

It was so frustrating not to be able to give every one of his posts their rightful due attention! (We have to rep another 10 people before we can rep the first person again.) Nice to see others have come up with the same idea!

So, an important question to you all: shall I undelete his threads in Rohan so everyone has more posts to negative rep? Shall we have a bit of sport with this fellow?

Apparently on IGN there is a name for this kind of spamming. It's called "rioting." I think that is a very fascinating use of the word--evidence of how the internet has inspired linquistic creativity!

The Barrow-Wight

09-01-2005, 06:36 AM

Do not feed the troll. Let's instead forget Immasamurai. He's been banned, but he'll only come back if he sees the reactions you are having. Let the troll find another forum to harass.

The Saucepan Man

09-01-2005, 07:17 AM

It does illustrate, though, how impotent the efforts of these minor trolls are. Every time they try to post or start a thread it gets deleted, sooner or later they get banned and, in the meantime, life on the Downs carries on much as normal.

Admittedly, they provide extra hassle for the mods and admins, but it is vaguely amusing (and also slightly sad) to witness their pathetic and futile attempts to grab some attention.

Bêthberry

09-01-2005, 08:07 AM

Well, I have to admit, Saucey, that it was a bit of sport trying to guess which web comic he would quote next in each new post, although certainly his comments about the Shire personal were rude and offensive in the extreme.

I'm just glad that he appeared to give up once I stopped deleting his posts. It was the deletion that was encouraging him to post on!

So, I suppose now we will not know what comes after "makes more trouble than Gollem."

Morsul the Dark

09-01-2005, 09:28 AM

Why not make an experiment? Someone should make a new user just to get neg-repped so we can see the lower levels! That's one way.

Should we?...I could make a quick account....I mean I'll only do it though if the Mods let me

HerenIstarion

09-01-2005, 12:24 PM

Since it seems that no one plans to earn those dastardly negative titles (and would we really allow anyone to sink that low?), I guess I can go ahead and reveal what I chose for each one. But first I will remark how the designers of the reputation system must have been aware that few people would end up on the disreputable side of the line, because in the default titles that came with vBulletin, there were only a few levels beneath 0 and several on the positive side. Assuming the software developers had chosen these setting intentionally, I decided I would not add any levels. I did change the number of posts needed to ascend (or descend) a notch, and, of course, I changed the titles. The original titles were all non-Middle-earthish and terribly uninteresting.

Here are the realms of rottenness that none of our member have managed to fall to.

10 This is where everyone "has started the path to adventure."
0 This person "is slipping."
-10 This guy "has been acting like Ted Sandyman."
-50 This girl "is as unpopular as Bill Ferny."
-150 This creep "makes more trouble than Gollum."
-500 This loser "ruins every discussion like Wormtongue."

And now you know the rest of the story.

P.S. Please don't ask how many positive levels there are or what their titles are. You'll have to find out when you get there :)

11-25-2004, page 8 (if you view threads in linear mode, 40 per page), post #282 (http://69.51.5.41/showpost.php?p=362119)

the phantom

09-01-2005, 12:50 PM

I was here when the little twerp went on his binge, and I immediately hopped over to the chat room to see if any admins were lurking there. I didn't have any luck, so I came back to the forum and proceeded to...

...give him a positive rep!

The message I sent him was obviously one that should accompany a negative rep, but since I hardly ever give out a negative rep (I think I've done it twice), I completely forgot to switch my thing over to negative.

I realized what I had done the instant I did it, but it didn't really upset me. I thought it was pretty darn funny, and I knew that he'd get more than enough negatives from other people to balance out my positive.

Mithalwen

09-01-2005, 01:00 PM

I always miss out on the " fun" - could someone enlighten me by PM on what exactly went on?

Boromir88

09-01-2005, 03:16 PM

I always miss out on the " fun" - could someone enlighten me by PM on what exactly went on?
And once you got it, kindly relay it to me. I'm dying to find out, ahhh the suspense is killing me. Well not really, I guess I'll live.

the guy who be short

09-01-2005, 03:35 PM

Send that to me too Mith, please. It sounds annoying and interesting and interestingly annoying.

arcticstorm

09-01-2005, 04:11 PM

I also want to find out about it, it sounds interesting that we actually had a saboteur and spammer ont he site.

Glirdan

09-01-2005, 04:13 PM

OOO!! And me! Send it to me!! as TGWBS put it:

It sounds annoying and interesting and interestingly annoying

Lalwendë

09-01-2005, 04:16 PM

I'd like to know too. :p

Mind, I think it was one of those same no marks that did it a few months ago. They have a thing about trolling sites to cause trouble 'cause they've been kicked off loads of forums in the past. I recognised the 'tone' they used.

Orominuialwen

09-01-2005, 04:28 PM

Somebody by the name of Immasamurai went around posting various completely off-topic and vaguely obscene threads last night. (S)he was quickly banned and his/her posts were deleted. It was rather typical of the behavior of many spammers/trolls--you've seen one, you've seen them all.

On a more on-topic note, thanks to the someone in very high places (approximately 51 points! :eek: ) who gave me an anonymous rep on this post (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=409883&postcount=41). I'm glad you agreed with my assignments!

The Only Real Estel

09-01-2005, 04:35 PM

I'd take the info too; if we're talking about more specific stuff. I'm pretty much caught up on the general trouble caused.

Lhunardawen

09-05-2005, 01:18 AM

So now I'm dating Bêthberry. :eek:

I see Sauce has intruded the supposedly invincible Lalwendavem.

Feanor of the Peredhil

09-05-2005, 01:55 PM

Kath

09-05-2005, 02:54 PM

If you don't post on the site for a long period of time do you lose reputation points?

Boromir88

09-05-2005, 04:09 PM

I'm very amazed... in the past few hours, I've gotten not one, but two unsigned pos-reps. Commented, yet unsigned. And I'm not even sure how much they're worth because I have no idea how many points I had before. How intriguing.
What threads were they for? Recently I forgot to sign a rep and usually I PM the person, but kind of slipped my mind and I soon forgot the person I repped. So one may be mine.

If you don't post on the site for a long period of time do you lose reputation points?
As far as I know, no. When I first joined February about 2 years ago I think, I sort of forgot about the place and didn't come back for about 6 months. I don't recall losing any points, but then again I didn't know the "User CP" option until I had been on the downs for almost a year lol.

Feanor of the Peredhil

09-05-2005, 05:38 PM

What threads were they for? Recently I forgot to sign a rep and usually I PM the person, but kind of slipped my mind and I soon forgot the person I repped. So one may be mine.
One was for Encaitare's Da Vinci thread for my portrayals of Heren, Fordie, 'Mer, and The Phantom Who Be Short. The other was for a sort-of recent RP post.

Meneltarmacil

09-06-2005, 07:06 PM

I got two reputations without any comments earlier, one for "The doublings are coming" and the other for "Fortunately/Unfortunately" Thanks to whoever sent them, though I'd love to know who you are.

Glirdan

09-06-2005, 07:20 PM

If I'm correct Menel, I believe I might have been the one for "Fourtunately/Unfourtunately" and I forgot to sign it. What was the comment? I might be able to tell by that.

By the way, thank you to all those who have repped me lately. You have my gratitude.

I'd also like to know who repped me for My "Balrog Appreciation Month" thread.

The Only Real Estel

09-06-2005, 09:06 PM

Just today I got an uncommented/unsigned rep for this post (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=411397&postcount=7158) in Crazy Captions. It's no big deal, really, but I wouldn't mind knowing who gave it to me...hint, hint. :D

Boromir88

09-07-2005, 05:11 AM

Fea, doesn't sound like one of mine, so the mystery continues.

Estel, to add to this new mystery I got an uncommented, unsigned pos-rep for a post in the fortunately/unfortunately thread.

Mithalwen

09-07-2005, 06:22 AM

Erm... while in my own case, not signing is due to hitting return when I runout of space ratherthan carrying on typing (I learnt my keyboard skills on a manual typewriter), I would say that while I abhor unsigned negative rep ..... I think people are entitled to leave positive unsigned rep..... I mean, occasionally I might do it if I rep someone who has coincidentally just repped me and I don't want it to look like a quid pro quo.... but generally I sign or PM if I realise my mistake...

the phantom

09-07-2005, 08:44 AM

I did the unthinkable- I gave an unsigned rep to BW.

I had only just started typing my message when a precariously balanced book on the table next to me fell and hit the "enter" key on the number pad.

Oops.

Dimcollowen

09-07-2005, 08:58 AM

well my typing skills aren't so hot either....sometimes when i type fast enough i totally forget whole words or just letters in general...its actually very sad...

Hookbill the Goomba

09-07-2005, 09:02 AM

Dimcollowen

09-07-2005, 09:06 AM

yeah lets hope!

Mithalwen

09-07-2005, 10:05 AM

I am sure that The BW is one of the people it matters least with - cos I am sure he can find out if he really wants. However if it were a neg rep....

VanimaEdhel

09-07-2005, 10:42 AM

I am sure that The BW is one of the people it matters least with - cos I am sure he can find out if he really wants. However if it were a neg rep....

Don't you have to sign if it's a negative rep or something? In any event, whether you signed it or not, negative reps in that direction can never be good. ;)

the guy who be short

09-07-2005, 10:49 AM

Has anybody ever neg-repped you, B-W?

While you're at it, would you like to tell us where all the new reps came from? We got most of them, but I'm sure we missed out one or two - such as the Petty Dwarf.

Feanor of the Peredhil

09-07-2005, 11:13 AM

You really shouldn't tempt one such as me, TGWBS, Mith... Confound this perverse sense of "let's see just how far I can push my luck before it starts to push back." I try so hard to ignore it...

Mithalwen

09-07-2005, 11:16 AM

Don't you have to sign if it's a negative rep or something? In any event, whether you signed it or not, negative reps in that direction can never be good. ;)

Morally, I would say yes but actually no it is quite possible to leave anonymous neg rep because I have received them!!!!

Fea - Listen to the voices!!! MWHAHHAHAAHAHAHA

Boromir88

09-07-2005, 03:33 PM

Has anybody ever neg-repped you, B-W?~TGWBS
I would guess no. I couldn't imagine the B-W making a post that would warrant a negative rep, and if he does than I must question his administration. Even if he did make a post warranting a negative rep I doubt one would stand up and do it.

Uh-oh, I just noticed I might have made my dreams to uspurp the autority of the downs too apparent, ummm...I take what I said back. :p

Orominuialwen

09-07-2005, 03:48 PM

Thanks to whoever sent me this mysterious anonymous rep the other day:Just because I think highly of you!

It really made my day!

Azaelia of Willowbottom

09-08-2005, 06:03 PM

Big thanks to whoever gave me an unsigned werewolf IX rep. Won't post the text since it could be relevent to the game (Which doesn't matter to me since I am probably being lynched as we speak), and could matter to someone else. Just whoever you are, thanks a lot! :) :) :)

Glirdan

09-08-2005, 06:04 PM

Thanks a lot to Perky and Estel for my werewolf reps. And good game to everybody!!!

Estelyn Telcontar

09-10-2005, 02:24 AM

Up to now, I very rarely gave negative reps, but I have begun doing so for off-topic chat posts. There have been way too many of those recently! I will gladly negate those points with positive reps when I see that the members involved are writing on-topic, worthwhile posts again.

Oh, and I sign my comments...

(It will be interesting to see if I get anonymous negative reps for this - it's happened before, when someone didn't like my moderating.)

Celuien

09-10-2005, 05:38 AM

This morning, I woke up and found myself in an unfamiliar place. I would have been quite puzzled but for the note that I found on a table.

You have been summoned to Elrond's Council. Enjoy your stay in Rivendell!

P.S. Please don't swim in the fountains or walk on the grass.

Thanks to everyone for their kind comments!

Glirdan

09-10-2005, 02:21 PM

I just got a rep from someone without a comment or name. I'd like to find out who it was if they don't mind telling me that is.

By the way, I thank you all for getting me to have a place at Aragorn's court, I feel so special. I get to sit with a King!! YAY!!! :D

Kath

09-11-2005, 10:52 AM

I got a rep from someone for a post in Crazy Captions that said simply 'lol'. Just wondering who it was from if they don't mind telling me. I like to know who I've pleased :D

the guy who be short

09-11-2005, 11:27 AM

All you people asking about mystery reps. Gosh. I always sign mine, but it's nice to have a bit of mystery around the system sometimes. And guessing who it is in your free time is fun. :D

Edit: The person who just repped me for this post is HI, right? It must be HI. Maybe Fea...? Kath? :confused: Hehe.

Kath

09-11-2005, 01:53 PM

All you people asking about mystery reps. Gosh. I always sign mine, but it's nice to have a bit of mystery around the system sometimes. And guessing who it is in your free time is fun.

Edit: The person who just repped me for this post is HI, right? It must be HI. Maybe Fea...? Kath? Hehe.
Wasn't me! Normally I would guess but I haven't looked at my User CP for a few days and so I can't work out the points.

Feanor of the Peredhil

09-11-2005, 03:52 PM

Wasn't me either. I wasn't even on campus, much less by my computer.

Ainaserkewen

09-11-2005, 06:11 PM

wow, you are an amazing thinker.

Okay, it was unsigned by man did that make me smile. I think my head inflated a wee bit too.

Is there anyone else with those absolutely uplifting reps that they'd like to share?

Feanor of the Peredhil

09-11-2005, 06:48 PM

Is there anyone else with those absolutely uplifting reps that they'd like to share?
Yes. I got this one:

A great read. You're a born writer. And Firefoot is right. :)
I'm sure that last bit will uplift Firefoot, but that first part... I had a smile for quite some time over it. A praise from the praiseworthy, as it were.

Firefoot

09-11-2005, 07:52 PM

:D

I made my way into someone else's rep? Now I'm going to have to figure out what I'm right about... Hm. Under the context, I could see it being from the "Island of Sorrow" RPG, but I'm not sure what I'm right about. Puzzles, puzzles. Oh well. I can do the phantom-thing and just take it to mean that I am ultimately right. Therefore, balrogs have wings.

;)

Feanor of the Peredhil

09-11-2005, 08:36 PM

I made my way into someone else's rep? Now I'm going to have to figure out what I'm right about... Hm. Under the context, I could see it being from the "Island of Sorrow" RPG, but I'm not sure what I'm right about. Puzzles, puzzles. Oh well. I can do the phantom-thing and just take it to mean that I am ultimately right. Therefore, balrogs have wings. Actually, it's not from Island of Sorrow. But it's more fun not to tell you who or what it's from... I just feel like being that way tonight. :D

Gurthang

09-11-2005, 11:47 PM

I just got an unsigned, no-comment rep. Don't know if it's the same as some of these other unsigned ones that are floating around, but I wanted to see if I could discover who it was. So I looked through the Member's List and came up with these three possibilities: Shelob, Lalaith, and NightKnight. Now, I probably missed some possibilities, but I'm sure it could have been any of those three.

So, whoever it was, confess now and no harm will com to you. ;)

The Perky Ent

09-12-2005, 03:38 PM

Gurthang, is the hunt on? I want an excuse to use my Balrog mask!

Glirdan

09-12-2005, 03:41 PM

I think I should be exempt from that. I am after all a fellow Black Beorning, right? Right?? ;) Besides, I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who repped you. I normally comment and sign mine.

Orominuialwen

09-12-2005, 04:12 PM

Is there anyone else with those absolutely uplifting reps that they'd like to share?
I've already posted this one, wondering who it was from, but I got this very sweet anonymous rep about a week ago: Just because I think highly of you! It was really a wonderful thing to recieve, and many thanks to that mysterious person who sent it!

The Saucepan Man

09-12-2005, 06:32 PM

The purpose of this thread is to discuss the Reputation system generally, not individual Reps (signed or unsigned). As was pointed out some way further back on the thread, some people prefer to Rep anonymously and they are entitled to do so.

Feanor of the Peredhil

09-12-2005, 07:47 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't administrators see who gives reps? I seem to remember The Barrow-Wight posting stats about how many reps were unsigned, and he wouldn't know that without having been able to see them.

So if a person were to give a higher up an anonymous rep, would the administrators ignore the very strong pull of curiosity and avoid looking, to preserve the chosen anonymity?

Gurthang

09-12-2005, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by The Perky Ent
Gurthang, is the hunt on? I want an excuse to use my Balrog mask!

Actually, I'd say the hunt is over. Sorry, no time for the Balrog mask. I got it narrowed down to those three, but that's about the end of it.

Originally posted by The Saucepan Man
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the Reputation system generally, not individual Reps (signed or unsigned).

Oh... sorry. Point taken; there shall be no comments from me regarding my personal reps received. Thanks for the reminder.

So, back on topic: It would be interesting to know if the admins can see all the reps, and the inside info of who gave them. Perhaps they stalk the rep pages, surveying all the proceedings, watching for foul play... if foul play is possible. Well, I have nothing to hide. ;)

wilwarin538

09-15-2005, 05:23 AM

YES! I'm bound for the straight road! Thank you WW! :D :D :D

Gurthang

09-15-2005, 06:33 PM

Interesting tidbit:

Page one in the Member's List (sorted by Reputation) is now full of those who have or have had a spot on Taniquetil. Congratulations to all who are among them.
*throws party hats and balloons to 'all who are among them'*

Lhunardawen

09-26-2005, 12:53 AM

The members-by-reps list says that I'm dating Esty, Mithalwen, and Eomer all at the same time. Isn't that just :eek:?

Feanor of the Peredhil

10-04-2005, 05:04 PM

Holy gaffers, Batman... I'm a potato thief! That is certainly not at the expected rep number... How fantastically fun.

The Perky Ent

10-04-2005, 05:10 PM

This is weird. I'm using a Mac, and when I run Safari (browser program) or internet Explorer, I can't read the rep titles. All I can see are the little squares! Anyone know what I should do?

Feanor of the Peredhil

10-04-2005, 05:23 PM

Anyone know what I should do?
Buy a Gateway. :p Seriously though, that's weird. I'll have to test it out on the macs I use in the library. I'll let you know if I get anywhere with it.

alatar

10-04-2005, 05:52 PM

This is weird. I'm using a Mac, and when I run Safari (browser program) or internet Explorer, I can't read the rep titles. All I can see are the little squares! Anyone know what I should do?

I use both PCs and Macs. Didn't see that problem in Safari on the Mac, but then again there is an outstanding issue that Apple hasn't addressed in their 'software updates' - some web pages freeze the computer. Anyway...

Another suggestion is to move to the free Firefox browser (recommended for Macs and PCs). PM me if you need any help.

Glirdan

10-04-2005, 06:04 PM

Oh my gosh!!! I have a place at Elrond's council!?!? That's a miracle!!! Thank you all who helped me get there!!!!!

Orominuialwen

10-05-2005, 03:17 PM

Another suggestion is to move to the free Firefox browser (recommended for Macs and PCs). PM me if you need any help. There's also another browser called Opera, which works quite well too for both Macs and PC's. I've had much better success with it than any other I've tried (IE, Firefox, and Netscape), although I don't use a Mac.

Gil-Galad

10-09-2005, 03:31 PM

what about Neg reps? so far i've seen Makes more trouble then Gollum and is slipping, are there any others?

mormegil

10-09-2005, 03:46 PM

what about Neg reps? so far i've seen Makes more trouble then Gollum and is slipping, are there any others?

Gil I remembered that a while back I saw the list. It was provided originally by B-W but requoted by H-I so here is the link (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=410008&postcount=1109) to that post :)

Glirdan

10-09-2005, 09:06 PM

Thinlómien

10-10-2005, 08:25 AM

Yes, I think I remember that post from earlier in this thread. And thanks to everyone who's repped me for the WWJ I game. I'm having a lot of fun watching all the villagers puzzle their little heads about who the Wolves are. It's amuzing!!! :D And I thank Perky for covering for me. Yes, that must be funny to you :rolleyes: You probably laugh everytime innocent villagers are accused. But the mystery of Fwedawick will be solved! :p

(I know that this has nothing to do with reps, so I'll add something: )
You're welcome, dear Glirdy! You truly deserve the points! (and a little more flowers, pink hearts and syrup over that... Well, honestly you deserve them, but that just sounded so corny...)

Glirdan

10-10-2005, 09:08 PM

:o Thanks Thin!!! That means a lot!!!! ;)

Feanor of the Peredhil

10-10-2005, 09:34 PM

WWJ was played so well that I have every intent of repping each of you for your contributions, now that I actually can. Only... I can't. I've spent my reps for this 24 hours. So those I didn't get to, I will soon, I swear.

And besides, we keep going over this... it's the thought that counts. :D

Again, well played, everyone.

Thinlómien

10-11-2005, 06:33 AM

[QUOTE=Feanor of the Peredhil]WWJ was played so well that I have every intent of repping each of you for your contributions, now that I actually can. Only... I can't. I've spent my reps for this 24 hours. So those I didn't get to, I will soon, I swear./QUOTE]
Me too! I still have to rep Perky, Kitanna, Eonwe and Folwren. I really don't understand that 24h-rule. :(

Bêthberry

10-11-2005, 07:00 AM

I really don't understand that 24h-rule. :(

It was designed to stop spamming of reputations. It's like the House of Lords in the British Parliament and the Senate in the Canadian Parliament: a brake. ;)

Glirdan

10-11-2005, 01:35 PM

I was able to rep everyone, because I was smart and repped them as soon as they got killed!!! :p It was a fun game to mod and I'm honored to have modded such a wonderful game. Thanks for the laughs everyone!! And thanks for getting me even futher up on the rep list!!! ;)

Mithalwen

10-13-2005, 02:14 PM

Sometimes I try hard to craft a post which my warped little mind thinks is interesting, insightful or informative.....and it is ignored. Then I take a nanosecond on a slightly scatological quip..... :eek:

Gothmog

10-13-2005, 02:23 PM

I agree. Some posts you feel that this...this ought to do it! Its taken you a long time and all. But then, writing a short post, no special at all, whoops! Rep from 3 different persons!

Some of my "rep posts" haven't been worthy any rep (according to me), but I guess it doesn't matter in the long run.

Or should we be more careful with what we give our precious rep points to?

Glirdan

10-13-2005, 02:25 PM

I've noticed that to. A few reps I get from my Crazy Captions post don't always deserve a rep, but I get them anyway!!! And then the ones where you think "Wow!!! That was such a good post, that I'll be surprised if I don't get a rep!!!" and then you don't get one!!!! But that's changed, somewhat.....

mormegil

10-13-2005, 03:04 PM

I find it interesting that we are trying to dictate what deserves rep and what doesn't. Something that may be humorous to me and written by somebody else is only sub-par in their mind but whose to dictate to me that I shouldn't find that funny. Or also a post that is quickly written can be very insightful even though much time wasn't spent on it. I say we are all free to give out as much or as little rep as we like and for what we like and just try and stop me :p

Boromir88

10-13-2005, 03:19 PM

say we are all free to give out as much or as little rep as we like and for what we like and just try and stop me~mormegil
Is that a challenge? :p

Ok, seriously, ya I agree. I think we actually had something like this earlier, like whether people should be repped for posts in the RPG's? I think it was a unanimous decision that yes, because some posts in the RPG's are just wonderfully done.

Which means...I'm going to pretend I'm a moral guy ( :rolleyes: ) and ask should we make posts just for the reps? I mean, when I do make posts I sit here and say, this is good, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets some reps, but it's not my motivation for posting something.

And I've given reps because it reminds me of something that happened to me, or some funny inside jokes with friends, and I'm sure the person on the other end is like what?

Folwren

10-13-2005, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Feanor:
WWJ was played so well that I have every intent of repping each of you for your contributions, now that I actually can. Only... I can't. I've spent my reps for this 24 hours. So those I didn't get to, I will soon, I swear.

And besides, we keep going over this... it's the thought that counts.

Again, well played, everyone.

Ah, shucks, all you WWJ people make me feel guilty for not having done it yet. I really do intend to.......haven't given a single one out yet. Will do so eventually. Believe me. It was, after all an excellent game.

-- Folwren

The Only Real Estel

10-13-2005, 07:39 PM

Formendacil

10-13-2005, 07:45 PM

To add to the concensus, reputation is not about what YOU think about yourself, but about what OTHERS think about you. Consequently, your post-rep should not be what you think is rep-worthy, but what others think is rep-worthy.

Gurthang

10-13-2005, 08:49 PM

Yes, people seem to always find something worth repping in a post that you never would have thought of. And then that one you were so sure of.... nothing.

Basically, I've given up on writing posts for reps. It never works out. I just have to put what I really think, or what I find funny (in Mirth), and if it gets repped, well great. If not, then I wasn't aiming for it, so I'm not dissappointed. The whole point of the system isn't really a race for the top(which is pretty much Lalwende's anyway), but rather a way of showing at a glance who is more respected. (Note: that respect could come from humor, too. :D )

Gothmog

10-14-2005, 04:13 AM

Basically, I've given up on writing posts for reps. It never works out. I just have to put what I really think, or what I find funny (in Mirth), and if it gets repped, well great. If not, then I wasn't aiming for it, so I'm not dissappointed. The whole point of the system isn't really a race for the top(which is pretty much Lalwende's anyway), but rather a way of showing at a glance who is more respected. (Note: that respect could come from humor, too. :D )

True, true...

But even if you're not writing for reps, you sometimes think you deserve it. Maybe me being a bit selfish
:(

I'm quite tight-fisted when it comes to giving reps. But maybe I shouldn't? Obviously, you only rep something you think is good, but it doesn't have to be excellent. But reps isn't the important thing. If I feel like I'm doing a contribution to the discussion (or a good joke or whatever) I'm happy with that. Then may the others like it or not...

Rep points isn't a contest!

Mithalwen

10-14-2005, 06:14 AM

I don't write to get reps...and I do give a lot of rep to things that make me laugh.. I just find it interesting that so often the amount of rep is inversely proportional to the amount of effort. But it is tue we are not always the best judge of our own efforts.....

Boromir88

10-14-2005, 10:04 AM

The whole point of the system isn't really a race for the top(which is pretty much Lalwende's anyway)~Gurthang
Not if we combine forces. :p But yeah, I concur.

I'm quite tight-fisted when it comes to giving reps.~Gothmog
I was like that, but when I repeatedly saw that I "needed to wait before repping this person again" I kind of thought, I'm being too tight and should give more. Now on a few occasions my rep button has overheated. But honestly, it's up to the person whether they want to give more or less out or not. Nothing really anyone can do, or should have the "right" to say..."so and so doesn't give out enough." All that folderol.

Mithalwen

10-14-2005, 10:14 AM

Not if we combine forces. :p

That is doomed to failure too, given the imminent official union of Lalwende and davem which if reflected in a joint downs account would be surely see off most other possible combinations...... :p

Gothmog

10-14-2005, 10:21 AM

Boro: I was like that, but when I repeatedly saw that I "needed to wait before repping this person again" I kind of thought, I'm being too tight and should give more.
So I've noticed. And that leads us to an other problem. When you get the "you must spread some rep..." message, there's a risk you'll think: "OK, must spread rep, must spread rep. Hmm, this seems ok, I'll rep it!". I understand why the rules are like they are. But 20 reps before you can rep the same person again, isn't that too much (is it 20?)? The danger with that limit is simply that one might search for posts to rep and give some "easy" points, just because one want the possibility to rep someone else.

That might explain some of the "unearned" reps we've discussed. Ok, we've decide they're might be deserved but anyway...

Count how many times I used the word "rep" in this post. New record? ;)

HerenIstarion

10-14-2005, 10:35 AM

(is it 20?)? ;)

it is ten

Rune Son of Bjarne

10-14-2005, 07:00 PM

I have just recive rep points that was grey(ish) instedt of green, I guess this means that they are negative! I just don't understant why the post says my rep is even when i havev not gotten any positive rep points.

It would be very nice if when giving negative rep, one would state why. (so that i can take it in to consideration for futur posts) :(

Firefoot

10-14-2005, 07:02 PM

Boromir88

10-14-2005, 09:32 PM

It would be very nice if when giving negative rep, one would state why. (so that i can take it in to consideration for futur posts)~Rune
Rarely does that happen, and it's my biggest pet peeve forum wise. But, what worse then getting a negative rep "unsigned" is getting no explanation at all.

Rune Son of Bjarne

10-15-2005, 09:06 AM

Rune - the blue-greyish boxes are reps that come from people who have fewer than 50 posts and therefore have no weight. The rep, whether of positive or negative intent, did not affect your rep at all. Negative reps come with red boxes.

Ahh that explains the even sign, on the post. Thanks Firefoot

Rarely does that happen, and it's my biggest pet peeve forum wise. But, what worse then getting a negative rep "unsigned" is getting no explanation at all.

Unsigend does not matter that much, but tell me why i got the - rep. Otherwise I cannot sleep at night!

By the way how does you guys use the negative rep points ? (when do you give any)
I have only given some once and that was a mistace !

Glirdan

10-15-2005, 09:20 AM

That's a matter of opinion for everyone, except perhaps the mods (ie Esty, B-W, SpM). If you don't like what a person's posted, or you think the post has absoultely nothing to do with the thread, let alone the forum, I would neg rep them. But I haven't come across any that I want to neg rep. Wayne's one scentence posts are hard to resist, but I know that I have to resist the temptation to do so. He is after, technically speaking, a newbie in my eyes. I've gotten a few neg reps, but I take those neg reps as a constructive criticism and try and remeber not to do it again. I don't take neg reps personally. But I do like it when people say what the problem is and it would be nice to sign it. That way I can talk about through PM's with them and see exactly what the problem was if there was no real reason or if I'm confused about the reason. But for the reason why people give neg reps, it's a matter of opinion, except, as I've said, for the mods and Admins.

And what is this!?!? I'm heading for the Straight Road??? Oh me oh my!!! I believe I'm going to faint!!! *Thud* *Splash* What? Oh yes. I'm on the Straight Road!! Thank you friends!! Thank you!!! :D ;) :smokin:

Azaelia of Willowbottom

10-15-2005, 09:25 PM

Formendacil

10-15-2005, 10:48 PM

I have never given a negative rep, and I always sign reps that I do give. From what I see of the 'Downs, everyone is both good posters and good people, so no one has done anything to bug me enough.

As for positive reps, it's a good thing, but not always necessary, to sign just in my opinion. It's just a nice thing to do. I always sign, but I don't have a real problem about unsigned pos-rep. It all depends on the circumstances.
But if I were ever to give a neg-rep, I would absoloutely sign it. It's unfair otherwise. If you're unhappy with someone, they deserve to know it.

I've said the same thing... and for the first half a year and more, it was true: I signed all my rep, without a qualm (or if I didn't, I didn't notice), and everyone was posting so nicely and politely and properly that I didn't think there was any point to that Neg Rep button. Sure, there were a few useless posts, but not bad enough to deserve the Neg Rep rap. But I was certain that when the time came, I would sign that Neg Rep with as much ease as a positive Rep for a funny Crazy Caption.

Then the day came and there was a post that was out of line, and needed to be called. So I did. I posted my first Neg Rep. And, to my credit, I kept my word and signed it.

But it was hard. Boy was it hard... I realise now why people talk of getting unsigned Neg Rep. It's such a difficult thing to have to hand someone Neg Rep in the first place, that you don't want to be identified with it...

Then there's the other end of the spectrum. I have, in those nine months or whatnot of wasting my free time in this online world, received a grand total of two Neg Reps, both unsigned, which fazed me not at all... for some unfathomable reason.

Kath

10-17-2005, 04:54 PM

I love this place! I've been ill all weekend and then I come back to find that I've received 8 reps in 2 days! :D And my parents think computer time depresses me :rolleyes:

Anyway thanks all that gave, you've absolutely made my day.

Hookbill the Goomba

10-23-2005, 02:13 PM

Not naming any names, like, but I recently received a negative rep for an ancient post I had completely forgotten about. It was, in all fairness, quite an immature post and I can understand the reason behind it being negative repped on those grounds, but the reason given was basically, "I don't agree with your opinion, therefore you deserve to be persecuted into submission." I may be paraphrasing there, but that was the general message.
Needless to say, I was quite upset by this. What's more, it was not signed, but I do know who gave it to me and will soon be P-Ming said person. I guess the point of this post is to ask, is such neg-repping on basis of "I don't agree with you" allowed? If nothing else, it can't be Netiquette.
Sorry, folks, you can just ignore my ranting, but I was quite hurt by this person who thought it nice to put a red box on my CP because they didn't agree with me. :(

Rune Son of Bjarne

10-23-2005, 02:36 PM

I guess the point of this post is to ask, is such neg-repping on basis of "I don't agree with you" allowed?

I do not think so. I mean what is the point in a Discussion Forum if you do not discus, but just state opinions and rep them positive or negative according to if you agree or not.

I think it would be devastating to the Downs if people, forget to comunicate! That is why we are heer, is it not?

If you only want to talk to people who agree with you, this is not the place.

Hookbill the Goomba

10-23-2005, 02:46 PM

I agree, master rune. I have no problem with people who disagree with me. There are a lot of them. Look out of your window and you'll probably see one. :p

Still, whenever I've not agreed, I've posted and said something along the lines of "Well, this is what I think," I don't think this is the place for personal attacks on character.

Ah, well. What’s done is done.

Hum de hum.

I've just noticed I'm up on Teniquetil again. Brr, it's a bit chilly.

mormegil

10-23-2005, 03:21 PM

Thinlómien

10-24-2005, 08:02 AM

Argh! :mad: I hate negative repping without reasons! I understand neg-repping without name, but without comments is irritating. It leaves you wonder what was the problem.
(Well, this time I got a neg-rep from N+N introduction thread after giving a newbie a link to a avvie site after he had asked. I suppose this was a mistake from the rep-giver, but it still itches me a bit.

It's amazing how often people give accidentally neg-reps. I still prefer them to give them with name so I can post them and ask whether it was an ironic comment or did they make a mistake...)

Rune Son of Bjarne

10-24-2005, 08:57 AM

It's amazing how often people give accidentally neg-reps.

What! You mean i am not the only one. . .
:)

Thinlómien

10-25-2005, 06:05 AM

What! You mean i am not the only one. . .
:)
No you're not :D. You actually did very, very well in compensing that mistake. So, all you guys, if you are given accidentally neg-rep, hope that it's given by Rune...

I quite love Heren's style to thank for rep-points by sending a PM; it's very delighting. Last time I actually felt a bit embarrassed for such thanks because my comment had been only something like: "Good point" or "Intresting points"... Well, Heren's just such a gentleman :D

Cailín

10-28-2005, 04:27 AM

*coughs in a rather embarrassed way*

Well, I just really want to thank everyone who has repped me in the past as I now have a place on Elrond's council (or have had for some time, just failed to notice before). :eek:

I don't always thank everyone properly, but every time I get a rep, even though undeserved, I get this warm and fuzzy feeling inside, just because I'm a girl and therefore have to love attention. ;)

So, for the third time, I really appreciate it.

Thinlómien

10-28-2005, 08:10 AM

Lhunardawen

11-02-2005, 03:10 AM

To think I've been just another villager to worry about.

Thanks to everyone who repped me for WW XII.

And I know this isn't the Best Sigs thread but lmp, you're right. ;)

Boromir88

11-02-2005, 05:56 AM

There are times when I don't agree with what somebody posted but I like how it was written and I find what they had to say interesting so I rep it. I usually included that fact that I don't agree with it but that I like the post.
I can't remember whether I have done this or not, I'm pretty sure I haven't (though I've recieved reps like this). Mostly what I rep is either I find it funny, I find it well written (RPG), or I find a post enlightening and I've never thought about it from that "angle" before, getting me to see something in a different light, so to say.

I don't always thank everyone properly, but every time I get a rep, even though undeserved, I get this warm and fuzzy feeling inside, just because I'm a girl and therefore have to love attention.
As discussed before, what one finds funny, or a "good post," may be different then how you feel. So, I don't think any positive rep is undeserved, you obviously did something to deserve that rep. :D Congrats on you and Thinlomien making it to Elrond's Council.

Rune Son of Bjarne

11-05-2005, 02:30 PM

I would like TOREstel for giving me the final rep points that got me in to Elronds counsil.

I had been in the waiting list for ever and finaly I got in.

(of course I appreciat all the other points just as muchl, but it was a real big thing for me to get in to the counsil, so I just thought I would mention it)

bilbo_baggins

11-07-2005, 08:15 AM

It looks as if the purpose of the useful if slightly irritating negative rep mark has slidden off into nonexistence.

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping, because they use it in a way not intended. I believe that repping is based not on content of message (though I do add if they have a good thought or new ideas) it is about how the message is written, how it put together. Spelling can be excused. Silliness tolerated. But overall there are not many truly bad writers on the Downs, so neg repping doesn't happen except by those who don't know how to use it.

I may be all wrong there but if I am right, you won't neg rep this post for content. :)

Valesse

11-07-2005, 09:00 AM

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping I agree with you here but just recently I received some negitive rep which, when I went back and checked, apparently had nothing to do with grammar.

My complaint is anon negitive rep being given without a reason provided. I can't tell what I'm doing "wrong" if someone doesn't tell me ergo it will not be solved. This is why teachers put notes on student essays, by gosh! *shakes fist* To me it only makes sense, but for all those that read this I can not speak for you.

...I am, however, happy to announce that I'm also a new memeber of Elrond's Council! :D

Gothmog

11-07-2005, 09:03 AM

Personally I've only neg repped one time, and it was a spammer, who wanted to advertise his site and nothing else.

It should be used with care, but there are situations where it can be done. Theoreticly I could neg rep someone for chatting for example. But that wouldn't happen before both one and two warnings were issued, as a last way to remind people of the rules. Totally useless posts, like saying "yes" when it's obvious you're doing it only for the post count could be neg repped too. But as most people here are regular members and quite frequent posters one can tolerate this behaviour in many cases, because one know that this is an isolated occurrence from the person in question. These are the situations I can imagine myself giving neg. reps.

But as you say, bilbo_baggins, neg repping shouldn't be done based on the content, unless it violates the rules of the forum. Positive repping on the other hand, that can be based on content. A great contribution is often one that open one's eyes for a certain fact, angle or way of interpret something.

I've been lucky so far when it comes to neg reps. I haven't found anyone misusing the system.
But overall there are not many truly bad writers on the Downs, so neg repping doesn't happen except by those who don't know how to use it.
No, there are certainly not many bad writers here and my believe is that most neg. reps goes to temporary members which don't use the forum as intended. But that it's mainly people who don't know how to use the system that is neg repping I dont believe. Those who don't know how to use the system has probably not been here for long and don't have much weight when it comes to repping anyway.

Now I hope i won't get my first neg rep for this quite useless and oversized posting of known facts and old information :p

Oh, and congratulations Valesse! What a rocket career you have! What's the secret? ;)
EDIT: 200! Yay!

Cailín

11-07-2005, 09:10 AM

I'm too nice, I think, to ever give a negative rep. I'd sooner PM the person or just ignore them if they'd commit a horrible barrow-crime.

And wow, Valesse, you are going even faster than me :p Congratulations! And Rune too.

Valesse

11-07-2005, 09:24 AM

Oh, and congratulations Valesse! What a rocket career you have! What's the secret? ;)

Red meat and a glass of wine.

*chuckles* I'd have to say it's my lingering, ever slimey presence in "the Mirth".
I've been making Lord of the Rings jokes and a few comics (which I'm still trying to find) for four years now, so I've been literally stewing in my own fandom. I believe what gets more rep than anything, though, is waiting/editting until you know your post is an novel as you can make it and having proper n-ettique.

Being buddy-buddy with the some of the other downers before hand doesn't hurt much, either :p

Gothmog

11-07-2005, 09:32 AM

Being buddy-buddy with the some of the other downers before hand doesn't hurt much, either I'll remember that to the next time I join the Downs :) I think Crazy Captions is a really good place to be too. I haven't been as frequent poster there lately as I was in the beginning. Maybe time for a come back!

One thing I've wondered about is the green/yellow squares indicating rep point. Why do they turn yellow? Is it just a way of simplifying counting of the squares? I read the early post in this thread and someone said that you need more than 100 p per square when they're yellow, but so far I've not noticed any difference. Could somebody confirm that it lacks any deeper meaning? Thanks...

Boromir88

11-07-2005, 01:47 PM

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping
Not only do I think that's a poor excuse for negative rep, but I don't think you should negative rep somebody on the grounds of disagreeing with them.

I think the Negative reps are for people who disrupt (spammers as Gothmog says) or people who are way off track and post something that has nothing to do with the discussion topic. And even then I can still tolerate a lot of it and simply ignore it.

One thing I've wondered about is the green/yellow squares indicating rep point. Why do they turn yellow? Is it just a way of simplifying counting of the squares? I read the early post in this thread and someone said that you need more than 100 p per square when they're yellow, but so far I've not noticed any difference. Could somebody confirm that it lacks any deeper meaning?
I actually think that's what it is. Perhaps it's not. I don't know all the "titles," but up until you get to "Aragorn's Court" all the green boxes represent 100 rep pts. The rest of the boxes (should be yellow once you reach Aragorn's court) means it took more than 100 rep points, I don't know the numbers. One of them I think you need like 500 points to get to the next title...something like that.

Gurthang

11-07-2005, 04:06 PM

To get from one box to the next:

Box 1: 0 points
Box 2-6: 100 points each
Box 7-10: 200 points each
Box 11: 500 points

Hope that helps. :)

EDIT: Okay, that should be right now. Sorry, I forgot that you get one yellowish box before it starts counting by 200.

Gothmog

11-07-2005, 04:38 PM

Are you sure of that, Gurthang? Because I count my boxes to 7, but my rep points stops at a sum under 800.

But thank you, very helpful!

Eonwe

11-07-2005, 07:18 PM

woah! didn't even notice the yellowness!

Gil-Galad

11-07-2005, 11:36 PM

i have 10 boxes and 1477 points...

Gurthang

11-08-2005, 12:04 AM

Perhaps I should rephrase my statement.

0-99 points = 1 box
100-199 = 2 boxes
200-299 = 3
300-399 = 4
400-499 = 5
500-699 = 6
700-899 = 7
900-1099 = 8
1100-1299 = 9
1300-1499 = 10
1500+ = 11

Alright, changed again. I believe that is right.

My previous synopsis shows how many more points you need to get to gain another shiny gem.

Thinlómien

11-08-2005, 09:40 AM

I believe that is right. At least in my case it is right.

Gil-Galad

11-08-2005, 07:21 PM

i have 11 boxes and 1544 now...

Rune Son of Bjarne

11-08-2005, 07:35 PM

i have 11 boxes and 1544 now...

Why do you allways have to mess things up, it was working perfect until you postet.

I guess there is no need saying that it is right in my case (and yet I did so anyway. . .how odd)

I

Gil-Galad

11-08-2005, 07:55 PM

Why do you allways have to mess things up, it was working perfect until you postet.

I guess there is no need saying that it is right in my case (and yet I did so anyway. . .how odd)

I

because i can my dear Rune :p

ts actually 1541

The Only Real Estel

11-08-2005, 10:18 PM

Many people on the downs do misuse negative repping

I don't think so. Sure, there are obviously cases of misuse of the neg rep option, but I think saying "many people" is a stretch. Especially when you consider all of the good rep being given out & just how many members there are here on the 'Downs...I'd say a select few "misuse it," if any do.

"Misuse" would also imply repeated usage of the option in a wrong way, & I really doubt that many people consistently "misuse" it...but that's a whole other subject. :p

Thinlómien

11-11-2005, 06:22 AM

Rune Son of Bjarne

11-11-2005, 03:43 PM

Thanks for all who gave me reputation yesterday - Wilwa, Estel, Rune and Gurthang. I hadn't got rep almost for a week and that was affecting my mental health more than it probably should

well you deserved it. . . I know how you feel, I too let me affect way to much by the fact that I have not gotten any rep. for a while. (currently it is about 6 days ago)
Just ask Valesse who I spend some time complainting to. . . sorry about that Valesse

Gurthang

11-11-2005, 05:52 PM

Thanks for all who gave me reputation yesterday - Wilwa, Estel, Rune and Gurthang. I hadn't got rep almost for a week and that was affecting my mental health more than it probably should. :rolleyes: Besides, I'm now on the second page of members list, if it's arranged by reputation.
*bows*

True, it makes me very happy to see that someone has liked my thoughts/ideas/humor/writing. Likewise, when I look and don't see anything new, it's not so much that I'm unhappy(not anymore at least), but rather that I just don't have that gratification that I was hoping for. Like mild dissappointment.

By the way, congrats on breaking into the top 60, Thin. :D *pats back*

Meela

11-14-2005, 03:23 PM

I don't think I've posted on this thread before...

So I'd just like to go ahead and say a big snuggly thank you to everyone who's repped me. I'm now packed, saddled and bound for the Straight Road thanks to you wonderful people, although compared to most of you I'm sure I don't deserve such status. But thanks anyway!

The Only Real Estel

11-14-2005, 09:37 PM

Posted by Meela:
I'm sure I don't deserve such status

Do any of us deserve our status, in our own opinions at least? I think rep titles are quite a bit like pictures. Someone might tell us that our picture looks great, but we'd never believe it; and we'd never believe that we've "earned" our rep titles/status either, no matter how often people try to tell us that we have.

So I won't waste time by saying that I think, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you've earned your status/title, Meela. :p

Sleepy Ranger

11-14-2005, 10:56 PM

Alright, now whose the slimeball that gave me a negative rep with this tagline-

Go random neg rep points!

It was unfair and uncalled for. I deserve an apology :mad:

Morsul the Dark

11-15-2005, 10:05 AM

Im sorry...no actually it wasnt me io say go positive rep points! whoever did that was kind of immature

Gurthang

11-15-2005, 01:05 PM

Alright, now whose the slimeball that gave me a negative rep with this tagline-

Go random neg rep points!

It was unfair and uncalled for. I deserve an apology :mad:

Sleepy, I feel bad for you that you got that rep, but please refrain from lashing out. The above post could very well earn you another negative(not from me) because it's pretty offensive in itself. Though it may have been unfair and uncalled for, responding in such a way is probably not the best thing to do.

In your situation, I'd look to see if there was maybe a real reason you recieved the rep you got.

Hookbill the Goomba

11-15-2005, 01:12 PM

What is strange is that it must be someone with more than 50 posts to actually make a dent on your rep and appear red. There treachery afoot! To the Barrow cave!

I hope it does not get to the point where negative reps have to be reviewed by a moderator before being sent to stop this kind of thing. But if it gets out of hand, then perhaps that would be something we would have to conceder.

Sleepy Ranger

11-15-2005, 01:37 PM

What is strange is that it must be someone with more than 50 posts to actually make a dent on your rep and appear red. There treachery afoot! To the Barrow cave!

I lost about 20 points if that helps.

Kath

11-15-2005, 01:41 PM

I lost about 20 points if that helps.
:eek: That means it was a pretty high up Downer! I mean, I remember the phantom saying he'd like to randomly neg rep people. but I didn't think he'd actually do it! Or anyone for that matter.

mormegil

11-15-2005, 01:44 PM

:eek: That means it was a pretty high up Downer! I mean, I remember the phantom saying he'd like to randomly neg rep people. but I didn't think he'd actually do it! Or anyone for that matter.

No the phantom only joked about that and he doesn't actually do it.

I support the use of negative rep when it is justified but I do not hold with the use of negative random rep.

Kath

11-15-2005, 01:48 PM

No the phantom only joked about that and he doesn't actually do it.
Indeed, that was my point.

Sleepy Ranger

11-15-2005, 02:34 PM

Sleepy, I feel bad for you that you got that rep, but please refrain from lashing out. The above post could very well earn you another negative(not from me) because it's pretty offensive in itself. Though it may have been unfair and uncalled for, responding in such a way is probably not the best thing to do.

In your situation, I'd look to see if there was maybe a real reason you recieved the rep you got.

Meh, yea I know but come on didn't anyone find the word slimeball even slightly amusing? Anyway, I wouldn't have done it if there was a real reason which there wasn't.

Heres the post (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=396752&postcount=77).
Heres what was written-
Go random-negative-reps!

And on another note I got a positive rep from Heren on that post, so the only real reason was randomosity. And even though thanks to the kindness of Morsul and Hookbill I got the points back I'd still like an apology. But I doubt the person who did will come front so I suppose we should let the matter drop unless it happens again.

Glirdan

11-15-2005, 07:32 PM

Ouch Sleepy!! That's the strangest thing I've I've seen.

On a happier note, I'd like to say thanks to Gurth and TORE for getting me up onto cold Taniquetil. Thanks to everyone else who's repped me as well.

Glirdan

11-15-2005, 08:59 PM

I just recieved a neg rep with this comment for my recent Crazy Captions post:

For the overuse of both Monty Python and the horrible Mapquest jokes.

Obviously someone doesn't have a sense of humour. People really don't know how much of a pain MapQuest is, even when you're just fooling around with it.

The Only Real Estel

11-15-2005, 09:54 PM

For the overuse of both Monty Python and the horrible Mapquest jokes.

Sounds to me like someone's rephrasing of "Random Neg Rep." Obviously everyone knows that Monty Python is used a lot, but it's nearly impossible to overuse it. And the Mapquest captions are right up there with the Gandalf uncloaking ones, they have to be done at least once per caption.

On a happier note, your welcome Glirdan (& Rune, belatedly). But that's about all I'm going to say because I don't want to get to personal in the open forums. ;)

Valesse

11-15-2005, 10:43 PM

Call me under-educated in the ways of the Great greenblocks, but what does a grey/black box mean?

I've gotten red (I assumed was negitive being the opposite of green) but this is the first time a grey block has appeared. Could it be that there is some way to "rep" without being for or against the post? Or that the one giving rep is not quite at a high enough level to make any effect? The rep-giver left no name, so I am not able to message and get to the bottom of this without bothering you fine folks but she (I assume) did leave the message "sasparilla ... kewl!".

Anyway, if anyone can tell me what this mysterious new block is all about, I'll be very thankful, and you'll be my best friend. :D