The Topic Game

[Morsul the Dark]

he was longerlived and could control lesser orcs easily
didnt find why

[Lindolirian]

Ah but that is what you must find out! :)

[The Perky Ent]

Hmm...uh...he was originally an elf of high ranking?

[Morsul the Dark]

his was Morgoth's first orc?

[Lindolirian]

Nope! Perky is almost, sorta, on the right track.

[The Perky Ent]

He was king of the orcs?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

An embodied Maia/Ainu?

[Lindolirian]

That's it Nilpaurion!

Thorongil- 1
Firefoot- 1
Nilpaurion- 1

4. What does the name snaga signify?

[The Perky Ent]

Snaga means slave, and is used to refer to lesser orcs of Isengard and Mordor. Uruks especially use the phrase!

BTW, I thought about the maia answer, but I though maia would be something bigger like Balrogs!

[Lindolirian]

Boldog was an orcish hróa inhabited by a corrupted Maiar. So yes, it's right, Perky.

Thorongil- 1
Firefoot- 1
Nilpaurion F - 1
Perky E- 1

5. How is that the goblins of the Misty Mts. in the Hobbit are able to recognize Orcrist and Glamdring, swords that were used in Gondolin more than six thousand years ago?

[Firefoot]

Because they had killed hundreds of Goblins in their time?

[Lindolirian]

It's more of an answer about orcs rather than the swords.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Because some of the goblins were survivors from the said war - i.e., Gondolin against the goblins.

Something to do with them being corrupted Elves - thanks, HI, for the article! :)

[Morsul the Dark]

Because they had heard tales from their forefathers of the mithyness of the swords

[Lindolirian]

Nil- 2
Thorongil- 1
Firefoot- 1
Perky- 1

6. What ever became of old Ufthak?

[NightKnight]

He was hung in a corner by Shelob, and probably eaten later on.

[Gil-Galad]

Bumpity

[Firefoot]

Lindo is having difficulty finding time to get online right now. Anyone can take the thread, but I think it would be fair to let Nilpaurion have it since he was winning.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Is it really me?

[NightKnight]

Yeah, that would be you.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I'll have to make up a new set of questions. Can you wait for me 'til Monday morning, Eastern Daylight?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Our topic is . . .

Kings.

1. Who was the High-king of all Elves?

[NightKnight]

Ingwë of the Vanyar.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

2. Who was acknowledged as the King of Beleriand before the return of the Noldor?

[Evisse the Blue]

Thingol.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Evissë - 1
NightKnight - 1

3. How many High-kings of Elves were there in Middle-earth?

[Evisse the Blue]

Five.

[Fingolfin II]

I'm going to say six, because Finwe was appointed King of the Noldor after he saw the Two Trees in Valinor, then he came back to Middle-Earth and brought his people to Valinor, so he was King in Middle-Earth for a very short while, I guess. I'm not too sure, but I'll give it a go and say six.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Fingolfin II, you're correct!

Fingolfin II - 1
Evissë - 1
NightKnight - 1

4. Who was the first king of the Kings of Men?

[Firefoot]

Hm, being that in the first age most of the men had leaders not kings I will guess Elros?

[NightKnight]

Just taking a wild shot: Elendil?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I'll go with Firefoot's answer, although it was stated in UT I 1 that Tuor looked like the father of the king of the Kings of Men, which was indeed his destiny. If we follow that line, then Eärendil must be the first king of the Kings of Men.
But he never became King of Númenor. So I'm confused.

Firefoot - 1
Fingolfin II - 1
Evissë - 1
NightKnight - 1

5. Whose title did the first Númenórean king to use the Adûnaic tongue for his name claim?

[Fingolfin II]

It was Ar-Adunakhor, I believe, who took Manwe's title of 'Lord of the West'.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Fingolfin II - 2
Firefoot - 1
Evissë - 1
NightKnight - 1

6. Who was the second King of the Realms of the Dúnedain?

[Firefoot]

Isildur?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Firefoot - 2
Fingolfin II - 2
Evissë - 1
NightKnight - 1

7. Who was the last king of the first line of Gondor?

[NightKnight]

Tarannon, perhaps?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

NightKnight - 2
Firefoot - 2
Fingolfin II - 2
Evissë - 1

8. Who was the first King under the (Lonely) Mountain?

[Fingolfin II]

Hmm...I don't have the book on me, but I think it's Thrain I?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Fingolfin II - 3
NightKnight - 2
Firefoot - 2
Evissë - 1

9. Who was the last King under the Grey Mountains?

[NightKnight]

Dain I?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

NightKnight - 3
Fingolfin II - 3
Firefoot - 2
Evissë - 1

10. Who is the Elder King?

[NightKnight]

Manwë?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

So that pathetic spell of question ends. Hopefull, NK would do better.
As I look back, there's no way he couldn't
Whatever. The thread is yours. :)

[NightKnight]

It wasn't that bad at all. ;)

Ok, a topic... Noldor!

1. Who was the first king of the Noldor?

[Fingolfin II]

Finwe!

[NightKnight]

Yup!

Fingolfin II - 1

2. Which Vala was their best friend?

[Fingolfin II]

Aule, I believe :).

[NightKnight]

Indeed.

Fingolfin II - 2

3. What cleft did the Gate of the Noldor lead to?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Orfalch Echor?

[Lindolirian]

The Rainbow Cleft.

[NightKnight]

Lindo has it.

Fingolfin II - 2
Lindolirian - 1

4. Who was Gwindor's brother?

[Firefoot]

Gelmir.

[NightKnight]

Yeppers.

Fingolfin II - 2
Lindolirian - 1
Firefoot - 1

5. How many noldorin kings did Morgoth kill?

[Gil-Galad]

Only two i beleive... Fingolfin... Finwe

[NightKnight]

Only? That's pretty much. ;)

Fingolfin II - 2
Lindolirian - 1
Firefoot - 1
Gil-Galad - 1

6. Who was Gelmir and Arminas sent to?

[Gil-Galad]

Was it not to Fingons defence? or was that to early...

[Firefoot]

Orodreth.

[NightKnight]

Firefoot got it. They were sent from Ulmo to warn Orodreth.

Fingolfin II - 2
Lindolirian - 1
Firefoot - 2
Gil-Galad - 1

7. Which noldor were allowed to come to Doriath?

[Fingolfin II]

The children of Finarfin- Finrod, Orodreth, Aegnor, Angrod and Galadriel?

[NightKnight]

Yes.

Fingolfin II - 3
Lindolirian - 1
Firefoot - 2
Gil-Galad - 1

8. What was the feast that Fingolfin held called?

[Lindolirian]

The Feast of Reuniting.

[NightKnight]

And in elvish?

[Lindolirian]

Ooo... No book so I'm gonna try Mereth Aderthad or Atherdad; I forget how it was spelled.

[NightKnight]

Mereth Aderthad it is. :)

Fingolfin II - 3
Lindolirian - 2
Firefoot - 2
Gil-Galad - 1

9. Who invented the Tengwar?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Rúmil. And Fëanor, just to be safe.

[NightKnight]

Yups.

Fingolfin II - 3
Lindolirian - 2
Firefoot - 2
Gil-Galad - 1
Nilpaurion Felagund - 1

Last question:

10. Give me the fates of all the grandchildren of Finwë.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Maedhros jumped into a chasm filled with fire.
Maglor wandered forever upon the shores.
Celegorm, Caranthir, and Curufin were killed in Doriath.
Amrod and Amras were killed in the Mouths of Sirion.
Fingon was killed in Nirnaeth.
Turgon was killed in Gondolin.
Aredhel was killed by Eöl in Gondolin.
Finrod was killed in Tol-in-Gaurhoth.
Orodreth was killed in Tumhalad.
Angrod and Aegnor were killed in Bragollach
Galadriel survived the First, Second, and Third Age, and returned to Valinor on TA 3021.

[NightKnight]

Impressive, impressive... But it's not enough. This topic's winner is Fingolfin II!Congrats!

[Fingolfin II]

Cheers,

The topic in this round is Royalty.

1. Who was accounted High King of all Elves?

[Gil-Galad]

Finwe i beleive... it could be Thingol though... bah Fingolfin keeps coming up...

[Firefoot]

Ingwë.

[Fingolfin II]

Firefoot- 1

2. The claim of which royal descendant to the throne of Gondor was refused?

[The Saucepan Man]

Arvedui

[Fingolfin II]

Firefoot- 1
The Saucepan Man- 1

3. How many descendants did Finwe have, up to and including the 5th generation and who were they?

[NightKnight]

His sons Fëanor, Fingolfin and Finarfin.
Fëanor's sons Maedhros, Maglor, Celegorm, Curufin, Caranthir, Amrod and Amras.
Curufin's son Celebrimbor.
Fingolfin's children Fingon, Turgon and Aredhel.
Fingon's son Gil-galad.
Turgon's daughter Idril.
Aredhel's son Maeglin.
Idril's son Eärendil.
Eärendil's sons Elrond and Elros.
Finarfin's children Finrod, Orodreth, Angrod, Aegnor and Galadriel.
Orodreth's daughter Finduilas.
Galadriel's daughter Celebrian.
Celebrian's children Elladan, Elrohir and Arwen.
Arwen had a son, Eldarion, and some unnamed daughters.

So that makes 31, plus the unnamed daughters. Or do you mean 5th generation including Finwë? Then we'd have to remove Elrond, Elros, Eldarion and the daughters, and we'd get 28.

[Fingolfin II]

I meant not including Finwe- you're right though ;).

Firefoot- 1
Saucepan Man- 1
NightKnight- 1

4. Who was the Lord of the Valarauka?

[The Saucepan Man]

Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs.

[Fingolfin II]

Saucepan Man- 2
Firefoot- 1
NightKnight- 1

5. Who was the thirteenth King of Numenor?

[Firefoot]

Tar-Atanamir the Great.

[Fingolfin II]

Indeed.

Firefoot- 2
Saucepan Man- 2
NightKnight- 1

6. Which King was descended from one set of three brothers and three sets of two brothers on his Elvish side (please tell me who these sets of brothers were)?

[NightKnight]

Eldarion?

One set of three: Elwë, Olwë and Elmo.
Three sets of two: Fingolfin/Finarfin, Galathil/Celeborn, and Elrond/Elros.

[Fingolfin II]

Firefoot- 2
NightKnight- 2
Saucepan Man- 2

7. What does the name Arvedui mean?

[Firefoot]

"Last King" - "Ar" being a royal prefix, and "vedui" meaning "last".

[Fingolfin II]

Yep.

Firefoot- 3
NightKnight- 2
Saucepan Man- 2

8. Who was the last lord of the Nandor in Ossiriand?

[Firefoot]

Denethor?

[NightKnight]

Firefoot's probably right, but in case he isn't, I'll guess Dior.

[Fingolfin II]

Firefoot- 4
NightKnight- 2
Saucepan Man- 2

9. Who was the last Lord of Moria that we know of?

[Firefoot]

Balin?

[Fingolfin II]

Firefoot- 5
NightKnight- 2
Saucepan Man- 2

10. Who is the most well-known Thain of the Shire (to readers) in Lord of the Rings?

[NightKnight]

Peregrin Took?

[Fingolfin II]

That is correct- alas too little, too late. The winner of this topic is Firefoot; take it away!

[Firefoot]

Paladin?

[Fingolfin II]

Uh, NightKnight got it right as I said above. But it's your turn anyway, Firefoot, because you got the most right :).

[Firefoot]

Okay, the next topic is the Valar.

1. Which of the Valier is Oromë's spouse?

[Lindolirian]

Vána.

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 1

2. Who aided Melkor's case to be pardoned?

[NightKnight]

Nienna?

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 1
NK - 1

3. The smith and the gardener among the Valar each selected an Istar. Who were these two, and who did the pick?

[Lindolirian]

Aule picked Curunir (Saruman) and Yavanna picked Aiwendil (Radagast).

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 2
NK - 1

4. Which Vala predicted Fëanor's death?

[Carnimírië]

Mandos.

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 2
NK - 1
Carnimírië - 1

5. Where were the thrones of the Valar?

[Lindolirian]

Máhanaxar, the Ring of Doom.

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 3
NK - 1
Carnimírië - 1

6. What was the name of Oromë's horn?

[Evisse the Blue]

Valaroma

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 3
NK - 1
Carnimírië - 1
Evisse - 1

7. Which of the Valar had blue eyes?

[NightKnight]

Ulmo?

[Firefoot]

Nope.

[NightKnight]

Then it has to be Manwë...

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 3
NK - 2
Carnimírië - 1
Evisse - 1

8. What did Oromë name the Quendi?

[Evisse the Blue]

The Eldar.

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 3
NK - 2
Evisse - 2
Carnimírië - 1

9. How does Ulmo get news?

[The Saucepan Man]

From all the waterways and bodies of water in Middle-earth:


For all seas, lakes, rivers, fountains and springs are in his government; so that the Elves say that the spirit of Ulmo runs in all the veins of the world. Thus news comes to Ulmo, even in the deeps, of all the needs and grief of Arda, which otherwise would be hidden from Manwe.

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 3
NK - 2
Evisse - 2
Carnimírië - 1
Saucepan - 1

Lindo, going for the win; NK and Evisse going for the tie...

10. Which of the Valar delights in song and poetry?

[NightKnight]

Manwë?

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 3
NK - 3
Evisse - 2
Carnimírië - 1
Saucepan - 1

NightKnight and Lindolirian are tied, so here's a tie breaker question just for them:

*How many times in LotR are songs sang to Elbereth?*

[NightKnight]

Oi...

The only ones I can remember are the one in Rivendell, and didn't Sam sing one in Cirith Ungol? So I say 2...

[Firefoot]

More than that.

[Lindolirian]

Thrice in FotR if you count Galadriel's song to Varda
Once (?) in TT when Sam's tongue was loosed
Once in RotK when the Ringbearers meet up with the Elves heading for the Grey Haven

Making for a grand total of five?

[Firefoot]

Lindo, I yield the thread to thee. :)

[Lindolirian]

Thank you so much, O Man of the Flaming Feet!
The next Topic is Creatures
Meaning any living non-plant that is not an Elf, Man, Dwarf, or Hobbit. Ents? Maybe...;)
1. From what creature came the prize of Vorondil the Steward?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The Kine of Araw.

'tis funny: Araw in Filipino means Sun.
Just ignore this.

[Lindolirian]

;)

Nil- 1

2. What sort of creature was Thuringwethil?

[Firefoot]

A bat.

[The Saucepan Man]

A Vampire?

[Lindolirian]

It's a close call, but I think PanMan is more right.
Nil- 1
Sauce- 1
3. What creature was responsible for the first light after the death of the Two Trees?

[Firefoot]

;)

Nahar, from the fire stricken from his hooves.

[Lindolirian]

I always wondered if that's where your screenname came from. I thought you'd know it anyway...;)

Nil- 1
Sauce- 1
Firefoot- 1

4. What creature was used on Maeglin's standard?

[NightKnight]

Wasn't it a mole?

[Lindolirian]

"Wasn't it a mole?" When are you ever wrong? ;)
Nil- 1
Sauce- 1
Firefoot- 1
NK- 1
5. What sort of creature lost it's golden collar to Huan?
(HoME)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

A cat? Tevildo the devil-do cat, to be exact. ;)

[Lindolirian]

That was the one!
Nil- 2
Sauce- 1
Firefoot- 1
NK- 1
6. What creature's teeth were said to be "hard to come by"?

[Firefoot]

A hurried guess before I leave...

Scatha the Worm's?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Dragons'?

[Lindolirian]

Sorry Nil, Firefoot's was more correct.
Nil- 2
Firefoot- 2
Sauce- 1
NK- 1
7. Dairon's curse was said to have affected the birds of Doriath and also these creatures.

And yes, that spelling of 'Dairon' was on purpose. It's a bit of a hint...

[Firefoot]

Bees.

[Lindolirian]

Of course. :)
Firefoot- 3
Nil- 2
Sauce- 1
NK- 1

8. Glaurung compared an Elf with a particularly weighty hand to what kind of creature?

[Firefoot]

A vole.

[Lindolirian]

Y'know, I try to find some time when Firefoot isn't online to give the other folks a chance, but nooo! Firefoot's just too quick and witty for that. :smokin: I'm just kidding with you...;) Well, you answer 'em faster than I can think of 'em, so I'll be back.

[Lindolirian]

Firefoot- 4
Nil- 2
Sauce- 1
NK- 1
9. What creature was it that cried in the same place that Morgoth let loose his greatest cry, but this one was only audible to the ears of the "immortal Man"?

[Gil-Galad]

hmm...i keep thinking Ungoliant....

[Lindolirian]

Keep thinking... the immortal Man is the biggest clue.

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you thinking of the "great gulls beloved of the Teleri" whose cries Tuor heard at the Firth of Drengist?

[Lindolirian]

I am, but sorry Saucepan, it only sealed the win for Firefoot.:)

Final Scores:
Firefoot- 4
Nilpaurion- 2
Saucepan- 2
NightKnight-1
The thread is yours, Firefoot!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I just knew that typhoon was part of a conspiracy to keep me away so I won't have the chance to tie with Firefoot.

*silence*

Nah, she deserved it . . .

[Firefoot]

Thank'ee.

The next topic is Roads, Trails, and Passes.

1. Along what trail might you find a multitude of wasted arrows?

[Gil-Galad]

along the gladden fields? where Isildurs men cut down? or maybe its Boromirs dieing spot...

[Firefoot]

Neither. It's a specific trail.

[Lindolirian]

The Road near the Guarded Plain on which Orleg was shot down, but Túrin escaped.

[Firefoot]

Nada.

[Firefoot]

Hint: It's not in the Sil or UT. And it has an actual name.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Anywhen, is the answer the Old Dwarf road, where Thorin's companions wasted their arrows shooting a white deer?

[Firefoot]

Good.

Nil - 1

2. According to Bilbo, what three places can be reached using the same road as is in the Shire?

[Lindolirian]

Mirkwood, the Lonely Mountain and futher to even worse places!

By the way... snazzy new avvie, Firefoot.:)

[Firefoot]

Correct and thanks. :)

Nil - 1
Lindo - 1

3. What pass is dark and smelly?

[Evisse the Blue]

Cirith Ungol

[Firefoot]

Nil - 1
Lindo - 1
Evisse - 1

4. If you take the road west from the place where the white flowers are like stars, where is your first stop?

[Gil-Galad]

Banks of the Anduin, or maybe even Dol Guldur

[Firefoot]

No. (And I think that would be going east, not west)

[Gil-Galad]

woops my bad...heh... then wouldn't it be the East-gate of Moria?

[Firefoot]

Nope - the flowers aren't in Lorien.

[Rochelle]

Hmm... Possibly Beleriand? Or even Ithilien.

[Evisse the Blue]

Dunharrow?

[Firefoot]

Good guesses, but no.

Since the question was somewhat vague, a hint: at this place there are several directions on which you could take the road.

[Lindolirian]

Due west from the Cross-roads would take one to the east bank of Anduin north of Osgiliath, but if you follow the road, which is more southwest, it goes to Osgiliath.

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 2
Nil - 1
Evisse - 1

5. What was the name of the pass through the Defense?

[Rochelle]

Hmm both Cirith Gorgor and Cirith Ungol are passes through the defenses of Mordor

[Firefoot]

Nope - the capitol "D" is a hint.

[Flittermouse]

Perhaps the Pass of Anach in the Defense against Morgoth in Beleriand?

[Firefoot]

No.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Calacirya!

[Firefoot]

You bet.

Lindo - 2
Nil - 2
Evisse - 1

6. What is the North Road more commonly known as?

[Rochelle]

Greenway?

[Firefoot]

Yes.

Lindo - 2
Nil - 2
Evisse - 1
Rochelle - 1

7. What road is used by mourners?

[Rochelle]

Rath Dínen a.k.a. The Silent Street?

[Firefoot]

Lindo - 2
Nil - 2
Rochelle - 2
Evisse - 1

8. Name two passes through the Misty Mountains.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The Redhorn Pass and the Cirith Forn en Andrath?

[Firefoot]

Nil - 3
Lindo - 2
Rochelle - 2
Evisse - 1

7. To get from Tol Sirion to Nargothrond, what road would you use?

[Rochelle]

The Pass of Sirion?

[Firefoot]

Nope.

[Evisse the Blue]

Through the Forest of Brethil coming out at the crossings of Teiglin?

[Lindolirian]

Does this road have a specific name? Or would description like Evisse's suffice?

[Firefoot]

I'll take Evisse's answer, since the route is right. According to the UT index there is a road, but in the text there isn't an actual name and the map doesn't show a road all the way through... :rolleyes:

Nil - 3
Lindo - 2
Rochelle - 2
Evisse - 2

10. What was the name of the pass that Bilbo and the Dwarves took through the Misty Mountains (before they were captured by Goblins)?

[Lindolirian]

The High Pass, also known as Cirith Forn en Andreth.

[Firefoot]

And we have a tie, between Lindo and Nil. This question will be for those two only then:

*Name two places where you might walk on a road or trail that is lined with stones.*

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The path to Rivendell is lined with white stones . . .

And perhaps the road to Halifirien.

I am so throwing guesses blindly. :rolleyes:

[Firefoot]

I'll accept the Rivendell one, but I need another unless you can prove the Halifirien one (I couldn't find any).

[Firefoot]

I'm going to be away for a while so a big hint: There are two different places where Frodo does before he reaches Bree.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The path to Bombadil's house?

[Firefoot]

And the winner is Nilpaurion Felagund. I surrender the thread to thee.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Our topic is Gifts and Gift-giving

1. Where was Yavanna's gift, Galathilion, planted?

[Firefoot]

Tirion.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Firefoot - 1

2. How were the Edain led to the Land of Gift?

[Evisse the Blue]

They followed the Star, Rothinzil.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Evisse - 1
Firefoot -1

3. How big was the biggest of those gifts that the Naugrim held dear?

[Lindolirian]

The pearl Nimphelos which was the size of a dove's egg.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Lindo - 1
Evisse - 1
Firefoot - 1

4. Which of the Fellowship received the most gifts in Lothlórien?

[Evisse the Blue]

Aragorn.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Evisse - 2
Lindo - 1
Firefoot - 1

5. In the First Age, which gift of the Dwarves did the Dwarves attempt to recover?

[Gil-Galad]

Nauglimir i bleieve, Necklace of the dwarves

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Evisse - 2
Gil-galad - 1
Lindo - 1
Firefoot - 1

6. From whom did Fram get the materials for his gift to the Dwarves?

[Lindolirian]

Scatha the Worm's mouth.:D

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Hmmm . . . Wadlow sounds Polish.

Middle-earth Quiz Room.

Right.

Lindo - 2
Evisse - 2
Gil-galad - 1
Firefoot - 1

7. What was Bilbo's gift to Thranduil?

[Firefoot]

The Arkenstone?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Slightly ambiguous question, sorry.

I refer to gift of Bilbo that was actually from him.

[Evisse the Blue]

A necklace of silver and pearls?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Evisse - 3
Lindo - 2
Gil-galad - 1
Firefoot - 1

8. What was the Western bound of Cirion's gift to Éorl?

[Evisse the Blue]

The river Isen?

[Gil-Galad]

WestWold?

[Lindolirian]

The River Adorn.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

All of you. :p

I want the complete definition of the bounds. The quote from Cirion and Éorl, even.

[Firefoot]

In the West the river Angren from its junction with the Adorn and thence northwards to the outer fences of Agrenost, and thence westwards and northwards along the eaves of Fangron Forest to the river Limlight, and that river was its northern boundary... How's that?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Evisse - 3
Firefoot - 2
Lindo - 2
Gil-galad - 1

9. What were the two geographical points that bounded the land King Elessar gave to the Shire?

[Evisse the Blue]

Far Downs and Tower Hills.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Evisse - 4
Firefoot - 2
Lindo - 2
Gil-galad - 1

But, a formality:

10. What was Eru's gift to Men?

[Gil-Galad]

Numenor maybe...but i still think it was Mortallity...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Gil-Galad got the last question correct, but it was not enough to propel him to victory.

Aforementioned victory--along with the thread--goes to Evisse. :)

[Gil-Galad]

The thoughts still here...

[Evisse the Blue]

Many thanks, Nil. :)

Next topic is End of all hope.

And the first question is:

1. What banners were displayed at the battle in front of the Black Gate?

[Gil-Galad]

Rohan, Gondor, and Evenstar i beleive

[Evisse the Blue]

That's not quite complete, plus you also have to state what each banner is like.

(geez, do I sound like a teacher or what?:( ).

[Firefoot]

Ooh, nice topic.

Gondor - black, white tree and stars
Rohan - green, white horse
Dol Amroth - blue, silver swan
Mordor - black, red eye

[Evisse the Blue]

Very good, Firefoot!

Firefoot -1

2. What is Denethor's scornful name for Gandalf?

[Firefoot]

Grey Fool?

[Evisse the Blue]

Correct!

Firefoot - 2

3. Name at least 2 people described as 'fey' and the circumstances.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Guessing...

Faramir, before going out to "retake" Osgiliath

Denethor, before burning himself and attempting to burn Faramir

I suspect I have one right and one wring here... I'll look later, but at least take a chance now ;)

[Evisse the Blue]

You're right, you got one right and one wrong. Denethor is the right one. ;)
One more to go...

[Lindolirian]

Aragorn was said to look "fey" by Eowyn after he talked with her before going to the Paths of the Dead.

[Evisse the Blue]

That's correct!

I have no choice but to give both Lindo and Sophia one point each, since they gave me each half of what would make a correct answer. So,

Firefoot - 2
Sophia the Thunder Mistress -1
Lindolirian - 1

3. On what date fell the "Dawnless Day"?

[Firefoot]

March 10, 3019.

[Evisse the Blue]

Yep!

Firefoot - 3
Sophia the Thunder Mistress -1
Lindolirian - 1

4. What was the 'small oversight' that according to Gandalf, proved fatal?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Sauron failed to check that Thrain had nothing of value, and allowed the map and key to be passed to Gandalf.

[Evisse the Blue]

Yes. :)

Firefoot - 3
Sophia the Thunder Mistress - 2
Lindolirian - 1

5. Who was the last to be swallowed by the waves in Numenor?

[Firefoot]

Tar-Miriel?

[Evisse the Blue]

Correct of course!

Firefoot - 4
Sophia the Thunder Mistress - 2
Lindolirian - 1

6. "What sweet grace of fortune!" Who said so, and in what circumstances?

(Er, yes, I know this is not the Quotable Quotes forum :p ).

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Firefoot, you are determined to ask questions I can't answer on my current stock of books *glances at the shelf, sees LOTR, Tolkien Reader, Return of the Shadow, and Tyler's ME Companion*. I'll have to spend the afternoon digging.

[Evisse the Blue]

Er, I'm Evisse. :p

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

goodness, why so you are. :rolleyes:

Firefoot must be baffling me somewhere else... Ah, no, Firefoot is winning. Mustn't be allowed. ;)

[Evisse the Blue]

What's the matter, are you stuck? :)

Hint: seeing as the topic of this thread is 'end of all hope', the quoter is being ironical...if not downright cynical. ;)

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

It is Turin, about Nienor.

[Evisse the Blue]

Firefoot - 4
Sophia the Thunder Mistress - 3
Lindolirian - 1

7. What colour are Eowyn's eyes?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

...grey as the sea were hard and fell, and yet tears were on her cheek."

-From the Battle of the Pelennor Fields

Sophia

[Evisse the Blue]

Firefoot - 4
Sophia the Thunder Mistress - 4
Lindolirian - 1

8. His only hope in his despair was his worst enemy. Who's he?

[Firefoot]

Sauron? His only hope could be that Frodo didn't destroy the Ring, so that might make Frodo his worst enemy...

Maybe a bit far-fetched, but hey.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

After he and the Balrog fell from the bridge of Khazad-dûm?

[Celebriel Esgaledhel]

Melkor, when he asked for the aid of Ungoliant to destroy the Trees? But then again, she wasn't exactly his worst enemy, but he was afraid of her, and at one point, nearly succeeded in killing him.

[Evisse the Blue]

Nilp has it!

Firefoot - 4
Sophia the Thunder Mistress - 4
Lindolirian - 1
Nilpaurion Felagund -1

9. How many days did it take Eorl and his men to arrive to the Field of Celebrant to Cirion's aid?

[Firefoot]

From the time they left (6th of Víressë) to the time they arrived (15th of Víressë) would be 9 days.

[Evisse the Blue]

Firefoot - 5
Sophia the Thunder Mistress - 4
Lindolirian - 1
Nilpaurion Felagund -1

10. How many survived from the company that held the bridge in Osgiliath in June 3018?