The Topic Game

[Gil-Galad]

thsi is just like the New Game!!! but the only difference is that you pick oen topic and stay on it for the remaniner of the 10 questions you ask!

Topic: Evil folk
1. who answered Aragorns calls at Morannon?

[alaklondewen]

The Mouth of Sauron?

[Gil-Galad]

yes

2. who was the founder of Frodo in the "cleft"?


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[Pallando B.C]

It was actually alaklondewen who got it right.

[The Saucepan Man]

Do you mean Shagrat, Gorbag and co when they discover Frodo's body in the Pass of Cirith Ungol?

[Gil-Galad]

sorry
yes

3. where did the Nazgul get there horses from?
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[Tinuviel87]

Rohan

[Gil-Galad]

yes

4.a great sorcerror who became a hated one of man

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Allakon-1

sorry if i don't spell your name right, i'll try and make abbreiations

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Are you meaning Saruman?

[Gil-Galad]

no think 9

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

The Witch King then? or Khamul?

[Gil-Galad]

yes Khamul

5.the race that betrayed the elves to there doom at the battle before Morgoths gates

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[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Men- more precisely Easterlings.

[Gil-Galad]

yes again

6. the creature that rallied his people on the lonely mountain

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[The Saucepan Man]

Well, as the topic is evil folk, that must surely be Bolg the Goblin King, in the Battle of Five Armies.

[Gil-Galad]

before that, much before

hint:it was a Gondor king that killed him and was killed by the dwarves becasue he wanted the treasure the he stole

[Gil-Galad]

Hint: he was in the north

[Salix]

I believe that wopuld be Scatha the Worm.

[Gil-Galad]

finally yes!

7. the one who wanted to be fed with both hands, not the right one

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[Gil-Galad]

hint: think light

[The Saucepan Man]

Is it Ungoliant? Something to do with her wanting to consume the Silmarils?

[Gil-Galad]

yes you are correct

8. who were the ones tah tscared off Ungoliant from atatckign Melkor?

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[The Saucepan Man]

The Balrogs, who had been lurking in Angband and heard his cry when Ungoliant tried to ensnare him in her webs.

[Gil-Galad]

yes

9. thoguh seemed as high lord of white, he betrayed them like he betrayed hsi father

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[Gil-Galad]

think first age, and dark ***

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Maeglin?

[Gil-Galad]

yes

10. the taker of Minas Tirith, who took it with a wolf's bite

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[ May 17, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Castamir?

[Gil-Galad]

no

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

The Witch-King perhaps? Who thought he'd taken it over during the seige when he broke the gates? Although that would be the "would be taker or Minas Tirith" wouldn't it... hmmm...

Castamir took Osgiliath, didn't he?

[Gil-Galad]

no need a hint?

[The Saucepan Man]

Based on the change you made to the original question - is the answer Grond, the Warg-headed battering ram that knocked down the gates to Minas Tirith?

[Tinuviel87]

hint please

EDIT: nevermind I agree with the above answer...I'm a bit on the slow side
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[ May 17, 2003: Message edited by: Tinuviel87 ]

[Gil-Galad]

nope not grond need anotehr hint?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

AHA! *lightbulb appearing suddenly above Sophia's head* The other Minas Tirith, of course!

Sauron, then in Wolf's form took Minas Tirith and Tol Sirion became Tol-in-Guarhoth! smilies/biggrin.gif

Sophia

[Gil-Galad]

finally yes!

final score:salix-1
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that means sophia gets to go!

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

***New Topic***: Things that are Lost

1. Lost with a drowned king.

[Annunfuiniel]

The Palantiri of Annúminas and Amon Sûl (with Arvedui the Last King)?

[ May 18, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes.

2. Lost when devoured by my enemy.

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(by the way Annun, you're on Alk's pic page now... smilies/smile.gif)

[Annunfuiniel]

The Silmaril which Carcharoth devoured? It was found later, though...hmmm...

And you're there too, Sophia, with a very nice pic for that matter! smilies/smile.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

lol... the pic is horrifying, my hair's not that color anymore, but, oh well!

Nope, that's not the answer I was looking for.

[The Saucepan Man]

Great to see you both on the picture board, Sophia and Annun. Neither at all how I imagined you, but that's for another thread ...

Oh, and good to see Moaner Lisa being put to good use, Sophia. smilies/biggrin.gif

Are you looking for those of the seven Rings of Power given to the Dwarven Lords which were devoured by Dragons?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

smilies/wink.gif Still no...

[Eruanna]

Beren's right hand? Devoured by Carcharoth as it cluched the Silmaril. The jewel was regained, but the hand was not. smilies/smile.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

That's it Eruanna!

3. Lost beyond the circles of the world.

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[Eruanna]

Luthien?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes.

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4. Lost, remade, and regained. (In that Order)

[ May 20, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

[Gil-Galad]

whould that be Anduril? or Narsil (same name)
(because sauron detsoyred t, Isildur regained it then Elrond remade it

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Nope smilies/wink.gif.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

takers? the question has been slightly modified.

Sophia

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Must I give you a hint? It's not that difficult smilies/wink.gif.

[Eruanna]

The Nauglamir?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Nope.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

This came originally from Numenor. Come on guys... smilies/wink.gif

[Gil-Galad]

the golden sceptre?

[Finwe]

It was the Elendilmir! It was lost on Isildur's brow, then remade for Valandil, then later, when Aragorn went to "clean up" Orthanc, he found the original in a metal closet!

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Presto Finwe! smilies/biggrin.gif

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5) Lost in the Downfall.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Aranrúth?

[Eruanna]

The bow of Bregor?
Dramborleg, Tuor's Axe?

[Elentarimir]

I'm a bit puzzled, so I'll take a wild guess and say the Palantiri?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Dramborleg it was.

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6) Lost when its holder was captured.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

*bump*

[Gil-Galad]

sorry no clue so far

[mordor136]

Sauron lost his ability to change form after he was caught in the storm created by Eru to destroy the Armada of Ar-Pharazon.

I hope all the "thing that are lost" dont have to be physical items.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

6) Lost when its holder was captured.

This is a physical item.

Sophia

[Eruanna]

Pippin "lost" his Elven brooch when the Hobbits were captured by the Uruks. He did it on purpose though, so does that count?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Not what I was thinking of. smilies/wink.gif To clarify, its holder was captured by Sauron. That should help.

Sophia

[alaklondewen]

I'm not sure if this is it, but...is it Thrain's Ring. It was lost when he was in the dungeons of Dol Guldur.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes, Alak, that's the one.

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7) Lost, in order to spare its owner's life.

[Arestevana]

Maedhros' hand?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes, Arestevana! smilies/smile.gif Very Good!

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8) Lost by the treachery of Men.

[Gil-Galad]

the Golden Sceptre becasue of Ar-Pharazon and his foolish atatck aganest the Aman

[Arestevana]

Nirnaeth Arnoediad?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes, Arestevana.

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9) Lost on a journey Westward.

[Gil-Galad]

a Silmaril when Maglor trough it into the sea

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

No.

[Gil-Galad]

Lenwe or Teleri elves when they headed towards the Ubdying Lands

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

No, but it is a person.

Hint: West was the direction of this person's destination, not necessarily the direction they were headed at the time.

[Eruanna]

Elwë, who was lost in Nan Elmoth and fell in love with Melian.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Nope, Eruanna.

[Gil-Galad]

Arvedui died along with the Arnorian Palantirs while trying to head west and then south to the Grey Havens

OR

Ar-Pharazon when he atatcked the Aman and failed, badly, really really badly

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

No. Arvedui went on a journey west and then south... the answer to this question was bound south and then west.

[Gil-Galad]

the Nandor maybe? they went west then when Beleriand was destoyed soem went west
OR
galadriel, she went south too Lothlorien then after not accpeting ring from Frodo she went to the west

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Lothlorien? Hm, something about that sounds right...

[Gil-Galad]

well am i close enough or far off?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Nimrodel! She was headed south to tsake a ship with Amroth west! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Of course, Earwen! smilies/biggrin.gif

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10. Lost at Cerin Amroth.

Sophia

[Eruanna]

I can think of two possibilities.

Aragorn's heart....he told Frodo that it would lie there forever.
Or:
Arwen's life.....at Cerin Amroth, she laid down her life, and her grave remains there Until the world is changed...So sad.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Eruanna takes it, as I was thinking of Arwen's life.

The final score is:

Eruanna 4
Arestevana 2
Alaklondewen 1
Finwe 1
Earwen 1
Annunfuiniel 1

Eruanna, you may continue! smilies/smile.gif

Sophia

[Eruanna]

Thank you, Sophia smilies/smile.gif

The next topic is: Númenor

1) What shape did the Island of Númenor resemble?

[Gil-Galad]

A duck! i mean a STAR!

[Eruanna]

Yes, a five pointed star.

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Next question:

Give at least three other names (and their meanings) for Númenor.

[Gil-Galad]

1. Elenna- Starwards
2. Andor- land of gift
3. land of the star- Numenor

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[Eruanna]

Correct. smilies/smile.gif

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3) What is the link between Meneltarma (The Pillar of Heaven) and the number three?

[Eruanna]

Just *bumping* this up with a hint:

There are some very specific 3s that are mentioned in UT. smilies/biggrin.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

Aha after searching UT for a while I belive I found it.

Three times every year the king of Nemenor would speak upon the pillar of the heavens. He offerd prayer for the following year.

[Eruanna]

Yes that's it... but there are other 3s as well smilies/smile.gif (two more)

[elven maiden Earwen]

If someone would aproch Meneltarma three eagles would appear at once and sit on three rocks unles it was the time of the three prayers where they would hover in the sky.

I can't find the third one. smilies/frown.gif

[Eruanna]

Those are the three that I wanted Earwen. Three each of rocks, eagles and prayers. smilies/smile.gif

4) At what age did the Númenóreans consider a man to have reached "full age"?

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[elven maiden Earwen]

25 I belive?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

I've got a feeling it was thirty-three, though I've not looked it up.

[Gil-Galad]

42 maybe? aroudn there i guess

[Eruanna]

Earwen has it. smilies/smile.gif

5) What was the language of Númenor called?

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[alquadae]

Adunaic

[Eruanna]

Correct. smilies/smile.gif

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6) What was the name of the place where the Kings and Queens of Númenor were buried?

[alquadae]

Noirian

[alquadae]

Noirian

[Eruanna]

Correct, Alquadae smilies/smile.gif

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Question 7) What was the longest river in Númenor?

[elven maiden Earwen]

The Siril?

[Eruanna]

Yep, that's it.

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8) What were the small red birds that inhabited Númenor called?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Kirinki

[Eruanna]

And Elven Maiden Earwen goes into the lead. smilies/smile.gif

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9) Which Númenórean first made the journey across the sea to Middle Earth, and what was the name of his ship?

[Gil-Galad]

it was Aldarion and his ship name is Eambar

[Eruanna]

There was another, before Aldarion.

[Gil-Galad]

i doubt it would be Tuor, or earendil since they were kinda in relation too the Numernoreans

[Eruanna]

You're right in thinking it wasn't Tuor or Earendil smilies/smile.gif
You were a bit warmer with Aldarion....although it wasn't him smilies/wink.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

It was Veantur, who sailed to Lindon and renewed contact with Cirdan and the Eldar in Middle-Earth.

[Eruanna]

It was Veantur,indeed (Aldarion's father-in-law).
For full marks on the question: What was his ship called? smilies/smile.gif

[Gil-Galad]

his ship was called Entulesse which means "return"

Edit: when i was reading it said that Veantur was Aldarions Grandfather

[ July 16, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]

[Eruanna]

Yes, you're right Gil-galad, about the name of the ship and Veantur being Aldarion's grandpa. smilies/smile.gif I wrote from memory, should have checked first!

I think both you and Gwaihir should have a point each...if that is ok, by the rules.

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Question 10) By what other name was the region of Eldalondë known, and what was the reason for this name?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Eldalondë was known as Nísimaldar meaning fragrent trees , called that because of the many sorts of trees that grew in this region. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Eruanna]

A perfect answer Earwen smilies/smile.gif

I hereby declare you the winner of this Topic, please proceed. smilies/biggrin.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

And the topic is Drumroll...

All about Rohan and the Rohirmm

1)Who was the first king of the Rohirrim?

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[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Eorl the Young!

[elven maiden Earwen]

Righty O

2) What battle was Theodred slain in?

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[The Saucepan Man]

The first Battle of the Fords of Isen.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Correct

3)What was the name of the land that the Steward of Gondor gifted to the Rohirrim?

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[Eruanna]

Calenardhon?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Yup

4.Who gave the Rohirrim Calenardhon? – Cirion

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Forever~Earwen

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Cirion, although you, er, seem to have already answered this yourself...

[elven maiden Earwen]

sometimes I am too stupid for words. smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/wink.gif but you are any how correct and you caught my mistake so I'll just give it to you.

5)Who was the beloved king of Rohan?

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(odd)forever~Earwen

[Gil-Galad]

that is a general questin but maybe you mean Theoden

[The Saucepan Man]

Ah, you must mean Brytta, who was called by the people of Rohan Leofa, meaning beloved, because he was such an all-round wonderful guy.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Right you are Mr. Suacy

6)Who was a body Guard of one of the Kings of Rohan?

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[Gil-Galad]

Hama?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope smilies/biggrin.gif

Forever~Earwen

[Eruanna]

Merry?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[elven maiden Earwen]

Need a hint?

[Gil-Galad]

Eomer was kinda liek a body guard too Theoden

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Eruanna]

Yes please Earwen, a hint would be very nice smilies/smile.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

As you probely have figured already he was a bodygaurd of Theoden. Also he died fighting.

[Cinderella]

I'm not sure if he dies...but....Gamling?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope.

[Eruanna]

Deorwine? He was the chief of the king's knights and fell at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

[elven maiden Earwen]

It is indeed.

7.What soldier met his end in the battle at Pelennor Fields?

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[ July 31, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[Beren87]

Lord of the Nazgul, Theoden, about 7,000 other people. smilies/tongue.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Beren87]

Well, Eowyn, but I'm not sure you could call her a "soldier".

[Gil-Galad]

dang i forgot the name but he came with the Dunedain form the North too Aragorn and he got killed in the battle, he was man, dang it i totally forgot his name!!!

[Beren87]

he came with the Dunedain form the North too Aragorn

Then he wouldn't be of Rohan, which is the topic at hand. smilies/wink.gif

[Yavanna228]

Deorwine?

Peace

[Eruanna]

Guthlaf, the banner bearer?

[The Saucepan Man]

... Harding and Guthlaf,
Dunhere and Deorwine, doughty Grimbold,
Herefara and Herubrand, Horn and Fastred,
fought and fell there in a far country ...

Any of those? smilies/biggrin.gif

Btw Yes, I know that multiple answers are normally to be avoided, but I felt that the non-specific nature of the question justified it in this case. smilies/tongue.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

Suacy you are correct it was Dunhere


8.How long did Fréawine rule?

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Erunna 2
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[ July 31, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[Yavanna228]

86 years? (Somehow that seems off...)
Peace

[elven maiden Earwen]

yes you are off. smilies/biggrin.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

Need a Hint?

[Yavanna228]

Speaking for myself, yes please. smilies/smile.gif
Peace

[elven maiden Earwen]

Ok its between 20-60 years. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ August 05, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[Beren87]

I can't win, yet I'm answering this, why? because I can.

I believe it was 21 years.

[Yavanna228]

45? smilies/wink.gif Ok, I'll stop guessing now...
Peace

[elven maiden Earwen]

Beren is correct

9.How long did Brytta rule?

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Saucepan 3
Erunna 2
Gwaihir the Windlord 1
Beren 1

[Yavanna228]

44 years? I'm feeling a bit more confident about this one...
Peace

[elven maiden Earwen]

Yup.

Final Question

10)What is Eomer’s surname and what does it mean?

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Saucepan 3
Erunna 2
Gwaihir the Windlord 1
Beren 1
Yavanna 1

[elven maiden Earwen]

Anyone?

[Mariska Greenleaf]

His surname was "éadig", which meanes "blessed".

[elven maiden Earwen]

correct!

And here are the final scores:

Sophia TTM 1
Saucepan 3
Erunna 2
Gwaihir the Windlord 1
Beren 1
Yavanna 1
Mariska Greenleaf 1

So the Mr. Saucepan Man wins!!! Yay! It is now your turn
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[The Saucepan Man]

Thanks, elven maiden, and sorry for the delay folks, but I've been away.

The next Topic is ... Orcs. And an easy one to start with.

1. Which unfortunate Orc was ensnared by Shelob and no doubt ended up providing her with a tasty morsel?

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it Ufthak?

[The Saucepan Man]

It is indeed poor Ufthak.

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2. What name for Orcs means "Yelling Horde"?

[Evisse the Blue]

Glamhoth.

Looks like I have a weakness for orcs, eh?

[The Saucepan Man]

Glamhoth is indeed the answer. Well done Evisse. smilies/smile.gif

Nothing wrong with being knowledgable about Orcs. Best to know your enemy. smilies/wink.gif

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OK, next question ...

3. To what is attributed the ferocity and determination of the Orcs' assault on Isildur and his Men at Gladden Fields?

[Evisse the Blue]

I don't know if this is what you had in mind, just a guess: To the evil power of the Ring?

[The Saucepan Man]

Spot on, Evisse. They are said (in a footnote to the Disaster of the Gladden Fields) to have been unconsciously spurred on (in part, at least) by the Ring's desire to return to its Lord.

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4. Which Orc is referred to as having "wide and snuffling nostrils"?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

The tracker-Orc, that argued with another fighting-Orc and eventually killed him. The two nearly stumbled across Frodo and Sam, hiding from them in the Morannon.

[The Saucepan Man]

That's the fellow.

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5. Are Orcs inherently evil?

(joke) smilies/rolleyes.gif

5. In what circumstances does an Orc end up crushed underneath a stone?

[Turambar]

The orc killed by Aghan the Drûg's "Faithful stone" ?

[The Saucepan Man]

Correct Turambar.

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Gwaihir the Windlord - 1
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6. Who made the heavy and clumsy mail worn by Saruman's Orcs?

[Turambar]

The orcs themelves?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

No laughing matter, Saucepans smilies/smile.gif.

Was it Dunlendish blacksmiths, perhaps?

[Turambar]

A passage in The Battles of the Fords of Isen in UT says of the Dunlendings that they were not well armed; a footnote (no. 11) then says: They [the Dunlendings] were without body-armour, having only among them a few hauberks gained by theft or in loot. The Rohirrim had the advantage in being supplied by the metal-workers of Gondor. In Isengard as yet only the heavy and clumsy mail of the Orcs was made, by them for their own uses. [Author's note.]

It's a bit ambiguous, but I think it means that the Dunlendings made no armor, and that the Isengard orcs made their own, poorly.

[ August 22, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

You are correct, Turambar. They made their own armour. The footnote which you have quoted was the reference that I had in mind. Well done.

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7. How is it that Pippin could understand the discussions of his Orcish captors?

[Yavanna228]

To Pippin's surprise he found that much of the talk was intelligible; many of the Orcs were using ordinary language. Apparently the members of two or three quite different tribes were present, and they could not understand one another's orc-speech.
Peace

[The Saucepan Man]

Quite right, Yavanna. smilies/smile.gif

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Turambar - 2
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8. Which Orc referred disparagingly to which other Orc as an ape?

[Evisse the Blue]

Grishnakh (sp?) to Ugluk.

[The Saucepan Man]

Indeed it was, Evisse. And your spelling is perfect. smilies/smile.gif

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9. By what name did Orcs refer to the Noldor?

[ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Mariska Greenleaf]

That would be "Golug".

[The Saucepan Man]

Correct, Mariska. smilies/smile.gif

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Looks like Evisse is up next. But before that, the final question ...

10. What was Radbug's fate?

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Well, just for the honor:
He was slain by Shagrat, because of insubordination.

[The Saucepan Man]

True, but I was looking for the manner of his death, in all it's gory-ous detail. smilies/evil.gif

[Mariska Greenleaf]

euh, his eyes were squeezed out...

[The Saucepan Man]

... yes, not known for his subtlety, Shagrat, was he? Hehe. smilies/evil.gif

You are of course correct, Mariska, but full honours go to Evisse the Blue ...

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Pray indulge us with another topic, Evisse. smilies/smile.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

Well, I'd be delighted to smilies/wink.gif
Next topic: Kelvar and Olvar (plants and animals in ME).

1. Which plant is known to sprout only in places where the Numenoreans lived?

[Gil-Galad]

Athelas?

[alquadae]

Kingsfoil,Athelas

[alquadae]

Hey Gil you got me again!!! smilies/wink.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

Correct.
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2. What is said to be the origin of the mearas?

[alquadae]

" All the Horses of Arda were created in the image of Nahar,the white steed of Orome ,the Valarian Horseman."

[Evisse the Blue]

Yes.
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What is the flower that shares her name with a weapon?

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Iris?

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope. Is there a weapon named iris? However, it's not the one I had in mind.

[Turambar]

Aeglos ?

[Evisse the Blue]

Yes, Aeglos which is also Gil-Galad's spear. Mariska, you probably meant the iris-swords. Have to confess I didn't know about them, now I do - thanks smilies/wink.gif
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4. What was the doom of Huan?

[Gil-Galad]

didn't he fight Drauglin and was posioned from his fangs?

[Evisse the Blue]

No, it's not that.

[Turambar]

That he would fight the greatest wolf in M.E. (and die) ?

[Evisse the Blue]

Correct.
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5. What is the origin of Celeborn? (the tree, not the elf smilies/wink.gif )

[Turambar]

It grew from a seedling of Galathilion, the tree of Tirion.

[Evisse the Blue]

Yep -
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Having reached the middle, I decide it's time to make it a little harder : smilies/evil.gifgrin::

5. What is the most well known quality of the lissuin flower?

[Mariska Greenleaf]

If you mix it with the sap of Tasare, the resulting mixture is an invisibility cream.

Mariska, you probably meant the iris-swords. Have to confess I didn't know about them, now I do - thanks


Yeah, that was what I had in mind, nevermind! smilies/wink.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

If you mix it with the sap of Tasare, the resulting mixture is an invisibility cream.
You're putting me on! Either this, or you're confusing it with Harry Potter. smilies/biggrin.gif

Anyway, it's not what I had in mind.

[Mariska Greenleaf]

you're confusing it with Harry Potter

Hardly, to be honest, I do not know a thing about HP smilies/rolleyes.gif
I guess my source wasn't that reliable after all...

Maybe the answer you are looking for is that it had a sweet perfume.

[Evisse the Blue]

I was kidding about the HP thing smilies/tongue.gif smilies/wink.gif

Yes, that's approximately it - I admit I was a bit vague with this question, mea culpa. It is said in UT: its fragrance brings heart's ease

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7. "Whatever you fare, till your eyries receive you at the journey's end!" Give the appropriate reply. smilies/biggrin.gif

[alquadae]

"May the wind under your wings bear you where the sun sails and the moon walks"

[Evisse the Blue]

The eagles recognize you as their friend, ALquadae! smilies/smile.gif

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8. What bird did the Teleri hold particularly dear?

[The Saucepan Man]

Presumably the Swan, as they fashioned their ships in the likeness of swans and named their city Alqualonde, Haven of the Swans.

[Evisse the Blue]

Indeed.

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9. "We are horribly afraid - but we are coming with you; or following you like______"

[alquadae]

hounds

[Evisse the Blue]

Alright!

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10. What did the Numenoreans place on the prows of their ships as a symbol of good fortune?

[Gil-Galad]

well theres no use of me sayign anything,
its up to Alquadae and Turambar

[alquadae]

"Green bough of return" from the Oiolaire tree

[Evisse the Blue]

Yes.

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Alquadae, looks like you're up next. smilies/smile.gif

[alquadae]

Thank you, I will strive to be worthy!
I would like to host the topic"Things that shine/sparkle"
Who created the Seven Butterflys?

[Beren87]

Varda, and for some odd reason I despise that name. :/

[alquadae]

Varda placed them, she did not create them

[Gil-Galad]

Yavanna?

[alquadae]

Not quite,try again smilies/smile.gif

[Beren87]

From Robert Foster's Guide :

Valacirca: The Constellation of seven stars shaped by Varda in preperation for the awakening of the elves.

From the Annals of Arda:

Big dipper and a part of the Great bear. This is the mightiest of the works of Varda, Lady of the stars.

:/

[Yavanna228]

Aule?

Peace

[alquadae]

The seven Butterflys "Aule was making a silver sickle. Melko interrupted his work telling him a lie concerning the lady Palurien. Aule so wroth that he broke the sicle with a blow. Seven sparks lept up and winged into the heavens.Varda caught them and gave them a place in the heavens as a sign of Palurins honor."
Wait a minute you say , what about the sickle of the Valar and the sign of doom? The Sil has her placing the sickle as a sign of doom but BOLT pp145 refers to the sickle as the Seven butterflys! Well done Yavanna 228

[alquadae]

ok
"Nahar is the name of his horse,white in the sun,and______ _______ at night."

[alquadae]

Well, after several re-reads it CAN be construed that Varda created Valacirca! Such are the"dangers" of the later publications.I bow to both Beren 87 and Yavanna 228

[Mariska Greenleaf]

"Nahar is the name of his horse, white in the sun and shining silver at night."

[alquadae]

Quite right!
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Who was named Faelivrin " ,which is the gleam of the sun on the pools of Irvin."

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Finduilas?

[alquadae]

Very good!!!
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What am I?
"It shone like moonlit silver,and was studded with white gems.With it was a belt of pearl and crystal."

[Turambar]

Bilbo's mithril coat ?

[alquadae]

That it is!!
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Who is this about?

" A star was bound upon her brows,
A light was on her hair
As sun upon the golden boughs
In Lorien the fair."

[Yavanna228]

Ah, I feel that this is probably not right, but...Arwen?
Peace

[alquadae]

Please try again! smilies/eek.gif

[Mariska Greenleaf]

It is about Nimrodel.

[alquadae]

Yes indeed !!!
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"----- -------,whose silver lamp shone far out into the mists of the sea. Few are the ships of mortal Men that have seen it's slender beam."

[Turambar]

Mindon Eldaliéva.

[alquadae]

arrgh you've seen it have ya matey arrgh
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Of what wood was Gandalfs staff made of?

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Gnarled wood?

[alquadae]

What iI am looking for is what kind of gnarled wood smilies/smile.gif

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Oh.
Made from ash-wood.

[alquadae]

Oh,yes!!! smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/smile.gif

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Who begged to be given the task of tending the last flower of silver?