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Lalaith
11-07-2005, 04:06 PM
*nods*... the fall of Gondolin requires undivided attention....

Anguirel
11-08-2005, 01:42 AM
RESULTS OF DAY FIFTEEN (M-e)

Arien was increasingly depressed by the land she lit up each morning; she watched the power of the Dark Lord spread, but could not halt it; saw the Elven kingdoms falling one by one. She was also stangely lonely. She had not appreciated Tilion and his crude advances, but now he was dashed to pieces she had no one at all to talk to. She began composing rather grim poetry, and at last determined on suicide, diverting her alloted course and shattering her ship against the peaks of Thangorodrim. She had the satisfaction of seeing Morgoth's fabled mountains warp and distort in the heat before she died.

Meanwhile, Glorfindel was dispatched outside the Encircling Mountains to harry an Orc army, but he was taken unawares and captured. Glorfindel was no craven, but the methods of Morgoth forced Gondolin's position out of him. Then the dark Lord read his mind and offered him Idril; but he spat at Morgoth's feet and defied him before he died, broken by torment.

RESULTS OF THE CHALLENGE

Gondolin was now bereft of many of her Captains, but Idril had long ago began to prepare a passage of escape into the mountains, warned in dreams by Ulmo. Yet she had come to treasure Gondolin, and could not envisage its fall; so only those who could not fight, with Earendil and Salgant, were sent away, and Tuor and Idril marshalled the defence.

The army that had been destroyed at Nargothrond was a quarter of the strength Morgoth now sent. Angband was at least half-emptied; all of Ancalagon's spawn, led by the dragon Scatha, were there, and the remaining Balrogs. But the walls of Gondolin were vast, and Tuor determined to make the city hold as long as it could.

The flying dragons, and some few of the Balrogs who had wings, assailed the rampants while the Orcs shifted their siege towers; but many were driven back by skilled archers. Scatha, fearless and terrible, seized Idril and enveloped her in his length; and Tuor rushed to her aid. His fight with the long-wyrm was lengthy, but at last he dealt it a mortal wound when it was distracted by Idril's flailings. But in its death-throes it crushed his wife.

Now Tuor was fey and mad with grief; and he fought on, though without hope, reducing Orcs at every turn, and burning walls that would fall into their hands. He knew that the passage must be defended; but the captain of the Balrogs discerned his purpose, and assailed him on a pinnacle above a chasm. They struck each other, and fell to their deaths together; but the passage was saved. So fell Gondolin, though only a fraction of its attackers survived its taking.

Challenge coming this afternoon...

Anguirel
11-08-2005, 07:51 AM
It's Day Sixteen in Middle-earth! The remaining contestants:

Tribes

VALAR

Elbereth
Ulmo
Mandos, Doom of

NOLDOR

Maedhros
Maglor
Ereinion Gil-Galad
Salgant

TELERI/SINDAR

Mablung
Cirdan
Elwing
Celebrian

MAIA

Uinen

PEREDHIL

Earendil
Elrond
Elros

FORCES OF EVIL

Morgoth
Sauron

Task sixteen: restoration. The losses to Morgoth's armies have caused a temporary respite, but the Silmaril of Elwing has great potential to cause division. Try and stop another Kinslaying breaking out.

Lalaith
11-08-2005, 07:54 AM
I'm a bit cross about the gratuitous slaughter of Idril and Tuor. There is now not a single mortal left....unless you count Elros.
Do you want us to complete the task by eviction or can we do marriage as well?

Anguirel
11-08-2005, 08:33 AM
The only marriagiable females are Uinen and Elbereth, unless you plan on divorcing Elwing from Earendil...

I assure you I didn't want to lose Tuor at least, but it's the same old problem-it's tricky to have a Massive Siege of Doom where no-one important dies...

Lalaith
11-08-2005, 08:38 AM
Hmmm...we could matchmake Elbereth with Mandos, get him in a sweet honeymoon mood and lose the Doom....

Anguirel
11-08-2005, 08:59 AM
I think Vaire might object to that!

Lalaith
11-08-2005, 09:44 AM
I see no Vaire on the list....but ok, fair enough. I just fancied a bit of romance after the wholesale slaughter we've been having recently.... :(

Anguirel
11-08-2005, 09:57 AM
I do see your point, and I like setting matchmaking challenges, but the possiblities are frightfully slim at the moment unless I get uncanonical and drag in Lalwende and Findis...

EDIT: How stupid I am! I've forgotten all about Celebrian! Onto the list she goes...

Gothmog
11-08-2005, 10:58 AM
This was a great write-up Ang! Even if some important characters perished, they went down with pride. Both Glorfindel and Tuor defied the forces of evil until their last shivering breath.

Now let's see. Elwing have a Silmaril and who would be most likely to want to get his/her/it's hands on it? Of course Maedhros and Maglor is our prime suspects. And of those two it's quite clear who's the leading one: Maedhros. If we evicted Maedhros I don't think Maglor will go for the jewel. Listen to these words spoken by the great singer and poet: If none can release us then indeed the Everlasting Darkness shall be our lot, whether we keep our oath or break it; but less evil shall we do in the breaking."
Problem is I like Maedhros and I'm sure Ang won't like this idea. But it seem like the best solution right now. I can't find any more Silmaril-claimers and a kinslaying of other reasons isn't likely to happen. But I'm open for suggestions! Any other candidates?

Lalaith
11-08-2005, 12:19 PM
I should mention that I've really been enjoying the write-ups as well Ang. (I wish I could rep you for them, but I need to spread myself around a bit more first...)

Lalaith
11-08-2005, 12:27 PM
Oh and as for the challenge: after that bit of buttering up there, I'm afraid I have to confess that I can't come up with a better alternative to Gothmog's scheme, I think either Maedhros or Maglor have to go.

Rune Son of Bjarne
11-08-2005, 01:01 PM
Oh my, what a disarster. . .

Alot of quiestions comes to mind : What grusom things can Morgoth have done to Glorfindel, that would make him tell the postion of Gondolin and how did the orc's manage to get those siege towers over the mountains ? :eek:


Gothmog Cruise speaks words of wisdom, but I will wait and think this one over before I vote.

Gothmog
11-08-2005, 01:19 PM
and some few of the Balrogs who had wings, assailed the rampants while the Orcs shifted their siege towers You tread a dangerous path my friend ;) Better hope BW don't see this. He's a no-wings fanatic if I've understood everything right.

But back to the topic. Maedhros or Maglor you say Lalaith, but to me Maedhros is the only poosible choice. He's the driving force in the duet. If we evicted Maglor I'm afraid his older brother could still decide to take the Silmaril, whereas Maglor probably won't if he's alone. Let's see what arguments Ang may have to let them stay!
Gothmog Cruise speaks words of wisdom Thank you mister Marx, my fellow revolutionary viking :p

Lalaith
11-08-2005, 01:25 PM
Oh I don't know Gothmog.
Maedhros feels just awful about the whole thing, and has done almost from the start. If ever there was a son of Feanor who wished he'd never heard of the Silmaril, or the silly Oath, it is Maedhros.
He'd do the right thing, given half the chance.

Gothmog
11-08-2005, 01:41 PM
What you say is true Lalaith, but remember what happened when the same opportunity rose in the real silm? Only Maedhros and Maglor remained of the brothers and Maglor hesitated but Yet he yielded at last to the will of Maedhros, and they took counsel together how they should lay hands on the Silmarils That last twitch of evil from Maedhros side has always confused me. To this point, Maedhros has always been the restraining power among the brothers. He has been the one to keep his brothers from doing rash things, but now he's the one speaking for the stealing of the jewels. Why this change? Has the struggle finally made him give up his norms in life? Many questions but few answers. Almost the material to a new thread if one work on it a while... But the fact remains: in the end Maedhros is the driving force behind the stealing of the Silmarils AND they're making themselves guilty of more kinslaying as the guards were killed. He's most responsible for that too.

Lalaith
11-08-2005, 02:04 PM
*nods* hmmm, maybe you're right. I think Maglor regretted everything even more than Maedhros did.
I know, maybe Maedhros can be evicted, then Maglor can get a nice girlfriend to sing his songs to, and forget all his woes and troubles...

Gothmog
11-08-2005, 05:30 PM
To be sure I don't miss out on this voting (don't now the deadline and I have problems keeping ttrack of different times here) I'm going to vote now, and the reason I vote like I do is as always found in my earlier post(s)

++Maedhros

Sorry Ang. He was a great man (elf), especially compared to his brothers, but to save the peace he has to go. I'm not happy to do this...

Rune Son of Bjarne
11-08-2005, 05:37 PM
I allways liked Maedhros, but to prevent another kinslaying he has to go. I allso belive that Maglor will turn "good" as a result of this.

++Maedhros

The 1,000 Reader
11-08-2005, 06:16 PM
++Maedhros.

Others have said my reason.

Alcarillo
11-08-2005, 06:27 PM
++Maedhros

Isn't he still High King? After sitting on that throne for so long, I think it's about time that Maedhros passed his crown to another.

Celuien
11-08-2005, 06:48 PM
Arrgh. I don't want to vote off Maedhros. He reformed so nicely in the revised version of events given by the Ang-mod.

Unfortunately, Maedhros seems the most logical choice right now. Unless - unless we vote off Morgoth and hope that the problems he caused for the Noldor will vanish with him. After all, I doubt that the original Feanor would have had anything to do with a Kinslaying if not for Morgoth's treachery. Nor would there have been problems between the Noldor in the first place, even before the Doom of Mandos, without him.

So, in hopes that any remaining malice or temptation for Elves to kill each other can be removed by voting off the main source of evil in Arda, my choice for elimination is

++MORGOTH

Save the noble Maedhros!

Lalaith
11-09-2005, 03:05 AM
Hmm....the Morgoth argument is a good one but then we lose out on the almighty fight at the end, don't we?
I'm also going to have to go for
++MAEDHROS

Look after poor Maglor, won't you Anguirel?

Gothmog
11-09-2005, 05:21 AM
I don't think the eviction of Morgoth will stop the Feanorians lust to own the Silmarils and their urge to fulfil their oath. The possible kinslaying will probably occur as a result of the struggle for the Silmarils and Morgoth part in that tale is already over. If it was possible, an eviction of the Oath of Feanor could stop a kinslaying and leave Maedhros in the game, but there's no such choice...

arcticstorm
11-09-2005, 07:25 AM
Doesn't Elwing still have the silmarill? If we can evict her maybe the new bearer will give it up willingly to the sons of feanor still alive. I do not see any reason why their claim to it should have been taken away in this Silarillion, it seems that the Sindar have done the most elf-elf violence. With the exceptions of Celegorm and Curufin thr sons of feanor haven't attacked their fellow elves, so maybe if we evict Elwing they will give MAedhros the silmarill

++Elwing

Anguirel
11-09-2005, 08:01 AM
There are two sides to every conflict. If Elwing and her her family can be induced to hand back the Silmaril peaceably, it will not burn Maedhros and war will be stopped without the tragic necessity of evicting the great High King of the Noldor.

Remember Elwing has no feud with the brothers. Indeed, they avenged her family's death by wiping out Telchar's Dwarves. It may be easier to reach a compromise.

Let's look at who is currently influencing Elwing's decision in Sirion.

Ereinion Gil-Galad-an ambitious scion of Fingolfin's house. Stands to gain the High Kingship if Maedhros and Maglor fall. However, a noble and chivalrous character not connected particularly to any desire for the Silmaril.

Salgant-probably jealous of Maglor's harp prowess, but an inveterate coward who would like to avoid war.

Mablung-the last of the Doriath old guard, took part in the hunting of Carcharoth and served the over-mighty Melian. Remembers the Quest of the Silmaril and will resent giving it up.

Cirdan-ancient, wise, peacable, not possessive.

Celebrian-young, but of high and ambitious blood. May resent the Silmaril's surrender, but doesn't have the power to influence Elwing Mablung does.

Earendil-concerned with voyaging and getting help from the West. Does not yet connect this with the Silmaril.

Elrond
Elros-Elwing's children. Remembering her brothers, she will desire to keep them safe, by avoiding war. May be hardened to battle if they die.

So, as an alternative to Maedhros, I suggest Mablung. The voting will close at 7:30 tomorrow morning. I know it's been a long day...I'm a bit snowed under...

++MABLUNG

Gothmog
11-09-2005, 08:19 AM
Haven't the sons of Feanor attacked any fellow elves with the exception of Celegorm and Curufin? Wasn't all the sons in on the first kinslaying of Alqualonde? And were not all the brother's present in Doriath when it was attacked? As all but the dead Curufin, Celegorm and Caranthir was present at the battle at the mouth of Sirion? And at last, Maedhros and Maglor was alone in the last slaying at the time of the Silmaril-theft.

And as for the claim of the Silmaril, that can be discussed. One may think that if someone brings back a jewel from the deeps of Angband, from the crown of the Dark Lord himself, then that gives you the right to own the jewel in question. The brothers had forsaken their right to the Silmarils, which was proved when they finally got their hands on them and was tormented by the very touch.

One thing is different from the "real" version: when Maedhros and Maglor were the only survivors of the brother's, the Silmarils in centre of the disagreement was the two from the overthrown Morgoth's crown. Now it's the Silmaril of Elwing.
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The text above was written as a respons to arcticstorm's post, but now I see Ang has finally stepped forward to defend his dear Maedhros.

To have Elwing hand over the jewel of free will is a good idea. But how will Earendil get to Valinor to raise the Host of Valar in the coming war? And do you really think Mablung has that power? If Elwing wanted to hand over the Silmaril to Maedhros, she'll do that whatever Mablung says. And I doubt he would go as far as kinslaying to get it back if it was given to the last sons of Feanor. He was never such an important character in the Quest. Sure, he will resent giving it up but I can't imagine his words stopping Elwing if she wants to give it away. If we evict Maedhros she will either give it to Maglor or keep it. Either way, we win.

Lalaith
11-09-2005, 08:39 AM
Unless Ang is planning something seriously uncanonical, somebody needs to get to Valinor, and that somebody needs the holy jewel to get there.

Celuien
11-09-2005, 09:10 AM
Well, I'll go along with our esteemed mod and hope there are enough votes/vote changes to save Maedhros.

--MORGOTH
++MABLUNG

arcticstorm
11-09-2005, 09:37 AM
Haven't the sons of Feanor attacked any fellow elves with the exception of Celegorm and Curufin? Wasn't all the sons in on the first kinslaying of Alqualonde?

remember there was no first kinslaying at Alqualonde, we prevented that from ever taking place

Anguirel
11-09-2005, 09:40 AM
Gothmog, the sons of Feanor in this version were not guilty of most of the crimes you throw at them.

We avoided the Kinslaying at Alqualonde; the Teleri sailed willingly.

The sons of Feanor were present in the assault on Doriath-to drive back Morgoth's army! They saved Dior, fighting alongside him. Later, they wiped out the thieving Dwarves.

The turn of events in evictions have changed a lot. Maedhros and Maglor have behaved honourably and wisely and deserve the gem.

As for the help coming from Valinor-how do you know there'll be any? The Valar are quarreling with each other, and of the Valarin Host that fought the War of Wrath, almost every participant

Eonwe
Ingwe
Finarfin

is dead or evicted. Maedhros may be needed to marshal resistance in the uncertain times ahead.

Celuien
11-09-2005, 09:40 AM
Hmm....the Morgoth argument is a good one but then we lose out on the almighty fight at the end, don't we?


Possibly. But I guess Sauron could grow into the ultimate bad guy for the big battle if we did vote off Morgoth.

arcticstorm
11-09-2005, 09:47 AM
--Elwing ++Mablung
we need to save Maedhros and if he gets the silmaril willingly, we will be able to have a stron final assult on Angband.

Lalaith
11-09-2005, 10:18 AM
Oh all right then.
--MAEDHROS ++MABLUNG

The 1,000 Reader
11-09-2005, 11:26 PM
I have just realized something very important.

Without a sun or moon, the elves are in serious need of light. torches won't last them forever and starlight, while pretty, may not be enough. The only thing that can provide the light the elves need is the silmaril. Therefore, a kinslaying may happen on any side.

For reasons said above, I change my vote to ++Mablung.

Anguirel
11-10-2005, 02:18 AM
My computer's crashed so there may be, ahem, a slight delay...

Lalaith
11-11-2005, 12:42 PM
Of a fortnight?

The 1,000 Reader
11-11-2005, 01:29 PM
In the meantime, what do you think about my light theory?

Anguirel
11-12-2005, 05:14 AM
I certainly hope not. Anyway, Mablung's been evicted.

Mablung-5
Maedhros-4

I take this opportunity to call a break until such time as I have regular Internet access...sorry. If it's too long, I'll seek another mod.

The 1,000 Reader
11-13-2005, 12:55 PM
Until Ang gets a good connection, why don't we share our opinions on how the Sil. Survivor has done so far?

Formendacil
11-13-2005, 01:14 PM
Until Ang gets a good connection, why don't we share our opinions on how the Sil. Survivor has done so far?

Anguirel's write-ups and "alternative universe" timeline are excellent reads. I'm also very amused at such a highly biased Moderator. The temptation to jump in and simply open fire on his favourite characters, JUST BECAUSE, is excruciating.

On the other hand, I am not a fan of the multiple deaths in a day, when people other then the voted-for are killed off as well. True, I can see the reasoning within the system that Anguirel has built, but I don't have to like it.

By the way, does anyone have dibs on hosting the next Survivor? Because I'd love to have a crack at it if no one does.

Eonwe
11-13-2005, 08:34 PM
though i've been a bit rapped up in werewolf XIII, i enjoyed reading throught the write-ups. excellent job, ang! i liked pretty much everything. especailly ridding the world of the three dreaded c's. congrats go out to all who voted, argued, reasoned, and wheedled for their eviction. well done, my comrades! :D

i didn't really mind the unvoted for deaths. (except eonwe's, that is. but i can't help that, can i? ;) ) they helped move teh storying in the clearly biased direction ang wanted. very audacious of you, by the way. :D

all in all, i loved it. and hopefully will rejoin after ww is over.

i would love it if you hosted the next survivor, formendacil! any ideas on themes and such?

Lalaith
11-14-2005, 03:37 AM
Wiping out swathes of characters also helps speed the game up a bit....the dramatis personae is so long that we'd be here til Christmas 2006 if Ang didn't exercise some editorial ruthlessness...although I'm still rather sore about Galadriel, myself....and Hurin....

Tuor in Gondolin
11-14-2005, 09:22 AM
The multiple deaths seem a bit overdone.

Would the next Survivor be Second Age, Third Age, The Hobbit?
It would be interesting to see how Queen Beruthiel and her cats
(especially the white one) would fare. :eek:

Formendacil
11-14-2005, 01:42 PM
The multiple deaths seem a bit overdone.

Would the next Survivor be Second Age, Third Age, The Hobbit?
It would be interesting to see how Queen Beruthiel and her cats
(especially the white one) would fare. :eek:

If I'm next, I'd like to do the 2nd Age.

If I'm down on a list, and I come out somewhat farther down... I might do the 3rd Age...

Or something else. I have ideas.

Gothmog
11-15-2005, 06:24 AM
Without multiple eviction, this story would go on forever. Of course everybody will miss their favourite when he/she/it is evicted without votes, but I think it's necessary. Maybe a bit exaggerated at times, but overall good. And even if Ang has been biased and used the Power of the Moderator for his own good, he's made some sacrifises for us too. Like the C's.

The only thing I haven't enjoyed with this survivor is that I've "lost" like 98% of the evictions. Somehow, everyone I propose for an eviction stays. An example: I started the voting for Maedhros the last day and an avalanche of votes were put for him. Then I return here one day later and everybody has changed their votes! I'm cursed. So from now on I'm going to vote for my favourites all the time :)

Formendacil: I'm looking forward to see what your ideas will look like.

Tuor of Gondolin
11-15-2005, 11:29 AM
Here's a suggestion for future Survivor's, make of it what
anyone will. Since a large cast of characters is called for,
how about designating 20 or so as "Survivors", of which
only one per DAY could be voted off. Wouldn't that be
closer to the spirit of Survivor? Other, non-offical "Survivors"
(like the people of Laketown, could be eliminated at any time).

To pick an easy hypothetical example (The Hobbit) Survivors
might come from Thorin and Company (14), Gandalf, Smaug, Beorn,
The Necromancer, The King of the Goblins, The leader of the
wargs, the Stone Trolls, Thranduil, a Giant Spider, Bard, and
the Master of Laketown.

The 1,000 Reader
11-16-2005, 12:55 AM
Keep this thread alive until Ang can come back. For now, let's discuss the theories we've made up during the game.

Anguirel
11-16-2005, 12:08 PM
1000 reader me old sport...I'm back! And not before time, you might say...

RESULTS OF DAY SIXTEEN

Two enclaves of Elvendom alone survived, Sirion and Ossiriand; and the Silmaril of Elwing threatened to engulf them both in destruction. The Lord Earendil had sailed into the West, hoping to find aid in distant Valinor.

A messenger from Maedhros, High King of the Noldor, arrived at the Havens. Maedhros informed the Lady Elwing that her family was avenged, and sent her the helm of Telchar as proof. He further said that she owed her Silmaril to the prowess of Feanor's line, and requested that it be delivered.

The court at Sirion was in confusion. Gil-Galad, the King of Sirion, advised that the Silmaril be delivered on condition that the House of Feanor abandon the Kingship of the Noldor to him; and Celebrian agreed. Cirdan remembered the war between Celegorm and Dior, and counselled that the Silmaril should be thrown into the Sea to end the strife. Mablung advised a flat refusal.

At last Elwing made her decision. The gem would be given specifically to the peacable Maglor, not his mighty brother, and only on condition that Gil-Galad receive the High Kingship. But Mablung was not satisfied. He drew his sword in the Lady Elwing's presence and seized the Silmaril; but it burnt him as it had burnt at Morgoth, Curufin, Dior and Telchar. Dumb with pain, he ran from the palace and hurled himself over a cliff.

RESULTS OF THE CHALLENGE

The terms of Elwing disquieted the sos of Feanor; for Maglor had no wish for the jewel, and Maedhros regarded Gil-Galad as an upstart. But Maglor gently reminded Maedhros of the Oath, and how it would be better to achieve it by peace than by more fruitless war.

Maedhros was sorely tempted to take the Silmaril when it arrived; and so he bade his soldiers bind him in chains, so that he would not be overcome by madness as Maglor received it. Truly, Maglor's right was unsullied, and it filled the second son of Feanor with radiance; and Maedhros conquered himself. The Crown of the High King was sent to Sirion; but a messenger dropped it and it fell into the Sea. Maedhros and Gil-Galad took this as an omen, and ruled as equals from then on, King of Ossiriand and King of Sirion. And when Elrond was of age, and was inclined to music and lore, Elwing sent him to study under Maglor.

Morgoth, seeing his designs had gone awry, grew wondrous wroth and called the mightiest of the dragons to him, now under Smaug the Magnificent, whose armour was like tenfold shields...and many, many, Orcs. He planned to reclaim the third jewel and slaughter the Elves and remaining Men in Brethil and Dor-Lomin.

Meanwhile, Earendil was met by figures out of distant legend-the Valkyries of the Vanyar, led by Indis and Amarie! They told him that in Valinor, all was still disorder...yet he had to raise some help...and they guided him to the blessed shores.

It's Day Seventeen Google in Valinor! The contestants:

Tribes

VALAR

Ulmo
Aule
Tulkas
Namo aka Mandos
Orome
Lorien
Varda
Yavanna
Nienna
Este
Vana
Vaire
Nessa

MAIA

Uinen
Olorin
Alatar
Pallando

VANYAR

Indis
Amarie

PEREDHIL

Earendil

Challenge the seventeeth: don't worry, most of those Valar will be off the scene again soon. Now-REINFORCEMENTS. Help Earendil get some of those Valinorian types on his side.

Gothmog
11-16-2005, 02:12 PM
I guess this is a question of who among Valar will be most reluctant to send the host to the aid of Elves and Men?

It's not Tulkas for sure. He'll be longing for a wrestle with that old Melkor-guy. Ulmo should also be one of those most inclined to send help to M-E, he was one of few who never abandoned it fully. Orome has always been a great hunter of dark creatures so I think he, too, would like a battle vs Melkor. Varda and the Elves has this special bond. She would definitely want to help them.

But Mandos on the other hand, he's always been kind of dull and unhelpful. I wouldn't be surprised if he refused to help the Children of Iluvatar now. After all, he wouldn't like to see the work of his Doom come to nothing. He's one possible candidate.

And what about Aule? His beloved Dwarfes has recently been slain by the Elves and it wouldn't surprise me if he held a grudge towards them now. Why help someone who cut down your children because of some stone? But on the other hand, he if someone should appreciate a nice jewel...

I think I'll be going for either Mandos or Aule, if there's not a better option presented.

The 1,000 Reader
11-17-2005, 01:15 AM
++Mandos.

Gothmog has said my reasoning.

Tuor of Gondolin
11-17-2005, 07:01 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if some of that dwarf testiness
and holding a grudge was instilled by Aule, so
+ + Aule

The Saucepan Man
11-17-2005, 10:46 AM
That sourpuss Mandos gets my vote for Vala most likely to counsel inaction in response to Earendil's plea. He seems to care the least for the travails of Middle-earth's residents and his pronouncements are generally filled only with gloom for them. Less Doom mongering and more active guidance/assistance would make life much easier for them.

Of course, his eviction would beg the question of whom will take responsibility for his Halls. But I am sure that some of the other Valar can step. Lorien and Este, for example, would make it a much more cheery place and instil a much more relaxed regime.

So Mandos' eviction could well have siginificant benefits, in addition to the task at hand.

++ MANDOS

I never liked the guy anyway.

Lalaith
11-17-2005, 12:10 PM
I agree about the Mandos stuff but there's a part of me that would quite like to kick off the dreary tie-dye tree-hugger, Yavanna. She's no friend of Men or Dwarves.
But I think Mandos seems to be the consensus.
++MANDOS

The Saucepan Man
11-17-2005, 12:25 PM
... but there's a part of me that would quite like to kick off the dreary tie-dye tree-hugger, Yavanna.But Lalaith, she's female ... :eek: ;)

There is an argument for evicting Yavanna, however. Since the Trees were her creation, and the Silmarils are all that remains of their light, she is the most likely to insist upon the return of a Silmaril in return for aid. And that is a condition with which Earendil, in this parallel Silmarillion universe, cannot comply.

So, yes, I would be willing to consider changing my vote to Yavanna ...

Anguirel
11-17-2005, 12:30 PM
I am intrigued and amused by the drive against drippy Yavanna.

And with the destruction of Arien and Tilion's crafts, Saucie has an excellent point.

++YAVANNA

The Saucepan Man
11-17-2005, 12:34 PM
Oh, go on then, I'll make an exception just this once and vote with the Angmod. ;)

-- MANDOS
++ YAVANNA

Lalaith
11-17-2005, 06:00 PM
---Mandos

++Yavanna

Celuien
11-18-2005, 05:59 AM
Oh, alright then. Down with the Silmaril-stealing, tree-hugging Vala known as

++YAVANNA.

I only hope Mandos has lightened up some since we last saw him.

Anguirel
11-18-2005, 07:19 AM
Trust me...he hasn't!

Voting arbitrarily closed.

Mandos-1
Aule-1
Yavanna-4

Anguirel
11-19-2005, 04:41 AM
Temporary pause as I go off to revelry for my sister's birthday party this weekend.

Anguirel
11-22-2005, 10:06 AM
RESULTS OF DAY SEVENTEEN-GOOGLE

The Valkyries had spoken truly. Valinor was no longer the Blessed Realm in any sense of the word. In the halls of Valimar, the Valier were shrieking and scrathing, tussling in a colossal hair-pulling struggle. Varda kept trying to be aloof and get the moral highground, but the taunts of her colleagues tended to lure her back to the fray.

"I know something you don't know!" jibed Vaire.

"Still haven't mastered the art of waltzing? Dear me," sniped Nessa.

"Darling, you're watering that flower far too much! No need to drown it," said Yavanna, scratching Vana in the face as she passed.

"Right, that's it," muttered Varda between gritted teeth. With a few awesome words of command, she called down several constellations against the infuriating Yavanna. "Drag her to the Void!"

The screams of heaven's flower-girl filled the air, and then silence returned.

RESULTS OF THE CHALLENGE

Carried by the winged Valkyries of the Vanyar, Earendil did not have to set foot on the forbidden ground and so escaped any grim punishment for sacrilege. Dangled by Indis and Amarie, he came into the Ring of Doom, where the Valar-many rather bedraggled-awaited him.

"What do you want, titch?" asked Varda, knocking back a bottl of Taniquetil Highland Whisky.

"Isn't it obvious?" boomed Ulmo. "The whole of Middle-earth is about to be mangled by Melkor."

"That's your fault," Vaire pointed out. "You should have made that city of yours stronger."

"That's your husband's doing, with his stupid Doom! It's ruined everything," interjected Orome.

"Orome will suffer from insomnia for the next three millennia. So it is fated," remarked the Doomsman.

"Look," said Aule kindly, for he was in a good mood since recent events, "you're not going to get any help from this lot, old chap. But I'll put you in touch with a nice Maia."

"None of your Maiar are nice," objected Orome. "Earen-thingy, the chap you want's called Alatar. A fine hunter."

And so Orome introduced Earendil to Alatar, who was playing cards with Pallando and Olorin.

"It's a good thing Curumo's left," Pallando was saying. "He always used to cheat."

Alatar and Pallando agreed to help, though Olorin admitted he was far too scared, and contented himself with wishing them good luck, and trying to persuade Mandos to rescind the Doom.

And so Earendil returned to Middle-earth, with the aid of the Valkyries, Alatar, and Pallando, on Day Eighteen...

The contestants:

VALAR

Elbereth (a confirmed alcoholic)
Ulmo
Mandos, Doom of

VANYAR

Indis
Amarie

NOLDOR

Maedhros
Maglor, possessor of the Silmaril
Ereinion Gil-Galad, High King of the Noldor
Salgant

TELERI/SINDAR

Cirdan
Elwing
Celebrian

MAIA

Uinen
Alatar
Pallando

PEREDHIL

Earendil
Elrond
Elros

FORCES OF EVIL

Morgoth
Sauron
Smaug

The challenge: EXCALATION. You have an almost free hand today, but vote for you ever you feel it's necessary to lose to make the upcoming conflict more interesting.

This day will finish a bit late, at about 6:00 pm tomorrow.

The 1,000 Reader
11-22-2005, 06:49 PM
++Earendil.

Valinor is coming to save the day, so Earendil needs to make some kind of sacrifice to pay for this.

Tuor in Gondolin
11-23-2005, 11:36 AM
+ + Morgoth

This would put pressure on Sauron. Could he
"Step up to the plate, be the man, when the going
gets tough would he get going"?, etc. :mad: :D

Lalaith
11-23-2005, 11:46 AM
++MANDOS, DOOM OF

Olorin's efforts succeeded.

Alcarillo
11-23-2005, 11:49 AM
++Maglor
Because he has a Silmaril. I'd like to see who grabs it next.

The Saucepan Man
11-23-2005, 12:04 PM
++ CIRDAN

Just in case any Elves were thinking of slipping off to Valinor to avoid the forthcoming conflict. If we eliminate their means of leaving, then they have no option but to face the "music", thus ensuring a much more comprehensive (and therefore interesting) battle. I am assuming that Cirdan is the only Elf with sufficient knowledge to craft a vessel capable of making the journey to Valinor. If that is not the case, then I nominate his (unnamed) apprentices to be evicted with him, together with any currently extant sea-worthy vessels. :D

Anguirel
11-23-2005, 12:08 PM
Well, Saucy, Earendil has proved himself capable of sailing to Valinor, after all...perhaps you should target him...

Tempting though Earendil and the Doom of Mandos are as evictees, my main regret about the War of Wrath's aftermath was the senseless drowning of Beleriand, destroying so much beauty and history. And that has to be at least partly the fault of the the Lord of the Waters. I'm going for Ulmo.

Day extended by a couple of hours, by the way...

++ULMO

Gothmog
11-23-2005, 12:21 PM
At the moment the Evil Side looks quite strong... Without the help of Valar, the battle ahead will be tough for the elves and good men. But to vote for one of the few evil forces left...hmmm, no. So therefore I vote

++Doom of Mandos

Without that old doom, things will at least look a bit brighter for the elves. And to all of you saying this would make the story will be less interesting without the doom, don't you think there will be enough problems? I can't see Angmod letting the free people of ME go without worries for eternity...

Anguirel
11-23-2005, 12:30 PM
Tally so far:

Earendil-1
Morgoth-1
Mandos, Doom of-2
Maglor-1
Cirdan-1
Ulmo-1

The Saucepan Man
11-23-2005, 12:38 PM
Well, Saucy, Earendil has proved himself capable of sailing to Valinor, after all...perhaps you should target him...Yes, that point did occur to me. But I thought that Earendil was more of a mariner than a ship-wright. And he can't sail to Valinor if there are no ships to sail in.

Plus, given that he journeyed to Valinor specifically to recruit aid for the coming battle, he is hardly likely to be offering to ferry potential combatants away from it.

Tempting though Earendil and the Doom of Mandos are as evictees, my main regret about the War of Wrath's aftermath was the senseless drowning of Beleriand, destroying so much beauty and history.But the drowning of Beleriand came about in consequences of the Valar's involvement in the battle, didn't it? Since the Valar will not be putting in a personal appearance, the battle will be much less geographically destructive (albeit probably much more personally destructive for those who stand in opposition to Morgoth).

Anguirel
11-23-2005, 12:44 PM
The Valar did not fight in the War of Wrath, but the Valarin Host of warrior-Maiar led by Eonwe caused the Drowning. However, I always got the feeling that it was a lesson in humility for the Noldor, destroying all their work. Since the army fighting Morgoth is far less powerful, I fear Ulmo may be commanded to encompass the destruction instead.

And I like evicting Valar.

Anguirel
11-23-2005, 02:35 PM
The day thou gavest Lord is ended...and the Doom of Mandos is to bite it. Look for my coming at dawn, at dawn, look to the east...

The 1,000 Reader
11-23-2005, 05:57 PM
The day thou gavest Lord is ended...and the Doom of Mandos is to bite it. Look for my coming at dawn, at dawn, look to the east...


Dawn?! Surely the write-up won't take that long?

Anguirel
11-24-2005, 08:08 AM
Rather longer. Sleep and Greek detained me!

RESULTS OF DAY EIGHTEEN

The return of Earendil with the aid from Valinor caused much jubilation. But the Wise knew that the war was about to start, more fiercely than ever before.

"The war is about to start," Elrond said, staring portentously into the distance, "more fiercely than ever before."

Maglor looked on in pride. Truly his pupil had mastered the art of being Wise.

Soon scouts of the Laiquendi brought fell news. The Dark Lord himself marched on Sirion. Angband was emptied, (the forces of evil don't bother with garrisons) and the army contained numberless Orcs, Balrogs winged, wingless and vestigial, and the remaining host of Dragons, led by Smaug the Magnificent.

From Taur-Nu-Fuin tidings came that Sauron had emerged once more, with a vast and terrible host of misshapen and petrifying creatures of shadow. Werewolves marched forth, and ogres, and Stone Giants, controversial though they are, vampires and Orkneys and People of the Toadstools, ghosties and ghouls and Cursed Villagers, several disaffected banshees and at least seventeen spin-doctors. Where this host went, there people trembled.

But the Elves and Edain prepared to resist. Gil-Galad the High King and the Lady Celebrian led the Noldor of Sirion, and Cirdan with Telerin archers flanked them. The Valkyries circled overhead. The Edain, led by Earendil and Elros and counselled by Pallando, were armed for battle.

The ghastly horde of Sauron's minions were fallen on by Maedhros and Maglor, with Elrond and Alatar guiding their movements. The forces of good were solidly united.

It was then that an ominous, familiar apparition coalesced into view.

"Noldor," it called, "you're doomed!" And a shiver ran through their ranks.

But an answer came from an unsteady, hiccoughing female voice that transcended the music of the stars.

"Doom," it pronounced, "you're fired!"

And the Doom disintegrated, never to be seen or heard of again.

Coming up-results of the challenge.

Anguirel
11-24-2005, 10:22 AM
RESULTS OF THE CHALLENGE

Morgoth was displeased by the departure of the Doom of Mandos, but not dismayed. Remembering still the blows of Fingolfin, he led his Balrogs and Orcs into the line of the Edain, sending Smaug and his Dragons against Gil-Galad, Fingolfin's descendant. He trusted that Sauron would be able to prevent the Sons of Feanor from intervening.

The cunning of the Dark Lord caught the Free Peoples off guard. Earendil was aware that his men could not stand in the face of Morgoth himself and all his direst evil; so he fell back to a pass between hills, and commanded Elros, Elwing and much of his army to retreat to Sirion. Then, with the Maia Pallando, he made his stand, and the two confronted Morgoth together. The Balrogs quailed at the approach of a Maia from the West, vigorous and dauntless.

But Morgoth did not. Raising Grond, Hammer of the Underworld, in both his hands, he struck at Pallando with all his might; and the Maia knew his time was ended. With his last breath he cast a glamour upon Earendil, making the Peredhil invisible for a short time; and so protected, Earendil dealt Morgoth a sore blow. And in cowardice, the Dark Lord retreated, but commanded his minions to make another charge. Seeing Pallando dead and Earendil vanished, they attacked eagerly, and though the Edain fought bravely, they had no choice but to flee; though sometimes a Balrog would fall by some unknown hand. In this way Earendil escaped his people's ruin for the present, and made his way to the High King's side.

The Noldor were regretting the absence of the Naugrim, and the battle with the Dragons was going ill for them. Everywhere Gil-Galad led by example, and Aiglos, his spear, slew three Dragons of Smaug's brood, but to no avail. Even as Earendil and the Valkyries rallied to his side, the fourth High King of the Noldor, after Finwe, Feanor and Maedhros, was consumed in flame and perished.

But now the Dragons, in their hour of victory, were beset by the Valkyries, winged as they were, and skilled with bows. And Indis and Amarie lifted Earendil to Smaug's belly, and he struck the wyrm hard; but Smaug's body brought down Earendil and Indis in its fall, and Amarie escaped with a tale of woe as the last Dragons fled. When Elwing saw what had befallen, she threw herself from the wall of Sirion.

Cirdan and his Teleri were now surrounded by Balrogs and Orcs, and there seemed little hope for them, though they loosed many vorpal arrows. The Valkyries and the remainder of the Noldor assailed the Orcs, hoping to but them time, but were sorely defeated. Cirdan was cut down, and Amarie and Celebrian led the survivors into Sirion.

Now Morgoth's horde invested the city's landward side, and it seemed it must fall, though Elros within defied him. But even as his siege towers approached, a new force of Elves shimmered before him-Maedhros's warriors, who had marched concealed by the enchantments of Alatar. And Morgoth beheld a bloated bat skewered upon a tall spear, and knew that Maedhros had had the better of Sauron. (Though Sauron, it is said had wheedled his way out of actual death. As usual.) The Dark Lord's laughter was bitter.

"You have ever defied me, Sons of Feanor. Now hear this. I have had a trinket stolen from me. Surrender the gem and I will spare the city."

And Maedhros spat before Morgoth, and challenged him to single combat; and the Dark Lord, remembering that it had been said that Maedhros was more skilled even than his uncle Fingolfin, lurked at the rear of his Orcs. And the Balrogs declared a charge.

Celebrian and Amarie, who had ever distrusted the Sons of Feanor, would not sally out. But Elros remembered that his brother was the herald of Maglor, and he led out the Edain in a counterattack.

There stumbled Maedhros the Tall, with all the Balrogs dragging him down. But of the five that remained, he slew four ere he died, and one fled, and burrowed itself beneath the mountains. And Alatar bound Morgoth, and forced him to give up the Silmarils before he was hurled into the Void; and the two that remained were given to Elrond and Elros, sole heirs of Beren and Luthien. But Maglor had worn his Silmaril long enough; it burnt him not, but its sight, after his brother had fallen defending it, was hateful to him. He gave it up to Alatar, who set it in the sky.

And Maglor, broken by sorrow, wandered alone, and of his fate no song can sing.

(Though Salgant, Lord of Harps, and notoriously jealous of Maglor's talents, likes to sing that he married a Petty-Dwarf and went into the East.)

HERE ENDS THE QUENTA SILMARILLION AS DISGRACED BY ANGUIREL.

The final vote: which of the survivors should be the Survivor?

VALAR

Elbereth (a confirmed alcoholic)
Ulmo

VANYAR

Amarie

NOLDOR

Maglor
Salgant

TELERI/SINDAR

Elrond
Celebrian

MAIA

Uinen
Alatar

MEN

Elros Tar-Minyatur

FORCES OF EVIL

Sauron

You decide! Votes are NON-RETRACTABLE. Vote for the winner!

The 1,000 Reader
11-24-2005, 10:32 AM
++Maglor.

He was around from the beginning, and he lived in the end. Plus, unlike Sauron, he didn't have to weasel his way out of death.

Anguirel
11-24-2005, 10:39 AM
In the event of a tie, since I am aware I am completely and utterly biased, I'll toss a coin!

The 1,000 Reader
11-24-2005, 11:04 AM
I am aware I am completely and utterly biased

Just like me! :D

Gothmog
11-24-2005, 12:29 PM
I don't know if anyone of those still left is really worthy of the title. But if i must choose one, it's going to be either Maglor, Elrond or Elros. Elrond and Elros is quite new in the game and that speaks against them. On the other hand, we know more about Elrond than the other two. But to be a son of Feanor, Maglor is a nice lad. This is hard, but I'll actually go for

++Maglor

Even though Elrond deserves to be mentioned too...

The Saucepan Man
11-24-2005, 12:48 PM
I too am tempted to go for none of the above. I don't find any of the Survivors particularly inspiring and, after all that has been said and done, I cannot bring myself to vote for the Angmod's pet. But after due consideration, and recognising that my vote shall probably stand alone, I shall plump for ...

++ SAURON

Last bad guy standing (well lurking, probably). That's gotta count for something. :p :smokin:

Formendacil
11-24-2005, 12:50 PM
Definitely Sauron.

Everybody knows that that guy is a Survivor. He survives the destruction of Utumno and Angband, he survives embarrassment at Luthien's hands, he survives the War of Wrath, he survives the war in Eregion, he survives the Downfall of Numenor, he survives his own death and the robbing of his ring, and even though he is reduced to a mere spirit by the Ring's destruction, he survives, nonetheless.

Clearly, the best Survivor of the bunch is Sauron.

++Sauron

Anguirel
11-24-2005, 12:52 PM
I won't vote in this final. But I may argue, if I find it particularly hard to restrain myself...

The 1,000 Reader
11-24-2005, 01:16 PM
Definitely Sauron.

Everybody knows that that guy is a Survivor. He survives the destruction of Utumno and Angband, he survives embarrassment at Luthien's hands, he survives the War of Wrath, he survives the war in Eregion, he survives the Downfall of Numenor, he survives his own death and the robbing of his ring, and even though he is reduced to a mere spirit by the Ring's destruction, he survives, nonetheless.

Clearly, the best Survivor of the bunch is Sauron.

++Sauron

Actually, some of what you said goes against him. Being utterly defeated by a woman and a dog, though surviving, is still something to count severely against him. Also, he
died three times. Once in Numenor, once in the Dagor Dagorath, and lastly when the ring was destroyed. Varda would be the better choice if you were going to pick an ainur.

(Everyone in Middle-Earth is a spirit housed in a body. Sauron died, it's just that his spirit was more noticeable in the physical world. If we go by your logic, Then Feanor, or even the first guy off, could win, because his spirit is still around.)

Gothmog
11-24-2005, 02:02 PM
I don't find any of the Survivors particularly inspiring and, after all that has been said and done, I cannot bring myself to vote for the Angmod's pet. Indeed, voting for his favourite seems like betraying yourself. That's the major thing speaking against Maglor. Angmod made him go this far by manipulating, which takes some skill. But I'm not going to care about who's on who's side this last time, I'm just going to vote for the one most worthy. Notice "most worthy", not worthy.

And Formendacil is right when saying that Sauron is a survivor. He is, but since when have the people being able to survive on an island for real won the TV-version of survivor? It's hasn't happened yet in the Swedish version. Therefore I vote with my heart. Well, actually I like Elrond more but his such a newbie in survivor ;)

arcticstorm
11-24-2005, 07:35 PM
Out of all the remaining individuals the one with the most honor, most worth, and the one most willing to be the ultimate survivor is none other than that magestic sone of feanor ++Maglor He was able to willingliy give up a silmaril in the end. He was able to calm his brother down when he was upset about the advocating of his throne by gilg-galad the unjust. And he hsd kept a calm spirit and a wise mind the entire game.

Lalaith
11-25-2005, 03:48 AM
++AMARIE
Last survivor of the brave Valkyries.

Maglor I can see the point of voting for, but why the creepy lieutenant? I see the Sauron of the First Age as a kind of Igor figure, slinking obsequiously behind the mighty Morgoth, rubbing his hands and saying 'yes Master.'
Yuck.

Tuor in Gondolin
11-25-2005, 10:04 AM
+ + Elbereth
Looking ahead, so Sam and Frodo have someone to cheer them up away in the future, (later in this same story that goes on, with new characters).

Anguirel
11-26-2005, 09:40 AM
You still have some time to vote-I'll declare the winner tomorrow morning.

Glirdan
11-26-2005, 10:23 AM
Just to let everyone know that I will be starting Hobbit Survivor soon after this is over. I just have one question for everyone before we start. Do you want more people than all those involved? Or do we want to figure out another way of lengthining the game because I'm telling you now that this will be a fairly short game. What say you?

Tuor in Gondolin
11-26-2005, 10:57 AM
Actually, I think a Hobbit Survivor could be about as long,
if, for example, various incidents in TH are featured
(the meeting at Bilbo's -does someone get poisoned? :eek: -
Trolls, Rivendell, Goblins, warg meeting place, Eagles aerie,
Beorn, etc.).

Of course, for the dwarves it could end up being a
version of Agatha Christie's "Ten little Indians"/ "And then
there were none." :cool:

Glirdan
11-26-2005, 11:06 AM
Well see, I was planing on doing it the same way that Boro ran LOTR Survivor. We could extend the voting for two days if necessary. We could add characters if we have to, like the Necromancer for instance. And those who are even mentioned like Lobelia.

Anguirel
11-26-2005, 12:24 PM
I've decided to include a Survivor Party when all the contestants will join together for a rave in the Halls of Mandos in the write-up...

Celuien
11-26-2005, 05:55 PM
++MAGLOR
Last of the Feanorians, present from the beginning, now singing in sorrow and solitude at the end. The poor fellow needs something to cheer him up. :)

Besides, I don't want Sauron to win. I was hoping Celeborn would still be here to take the victory, but such is life.

Rune Son of Bjarne
11-26-2005, 06:04 PM
oh the final !

well there is non who is worthy of the victory left.

++Celebrian

After all she is the silver queen

Anguirel
11-27-2005, 06:03 AM
FINAL RESULTS

Maglor-4
Sauron-2
Amarie-1
Elbereth-1
Celebrian-1

Kanafinwe Makalaure Maglor Feanorion is the Silmarillion Survivor!

Sauron, called Gorthaur, the second Dark Lord, is the Survivor Runner-up!

Elbereth is the randomly determined winner of the third prize!

However, since Maglor has refused his prize, the three Silmaril Awards go to

Sauron

Elbereth

and

Amarie, with Celebrian winning a consolation Mallorn.

Write-up describing the Silmarillion Survivor Party, featuring all contestants except the winner Maglor who has mysteriously absented himself, coming up...

Anguirel
11-27-2005, 09:52 AM
THE GUEST LIST

Every contestant except Maglor will be at the Halls of Mandos...

Tribes

VALAR

Manwe (Thrust into the void by the other Valar)
Ulmo (Survived!)
Aule
Tulkas
Namo aka Mandos
Mandos, Doom of (Lifted by Varda at Olorin's request)
Orome
Lorien
Varda/Elbereth (Survived! Won third place and a Silmaril Award)
Yavanna (Thrust into the Void by Varda)
Nienna
Este
Vana
Vaire
Nessa

NOLDOR

Finwe (Slain by Morgoth)
Feanor (Slain by Gothmog)
Fingolfin (Slain by Morgoth)
Finarfin (Shot by an Orc)
Maedhros (Slain by Balrogs)
Maglor (The Survivor! Won the show but disappeared soon after)
Celegorm (Slain by Ancalagon)
Caranthir (Slain by Ulfang)
Curufin (Burnt by a Silmaril)
Celebrimbor (Slain by Glaurung)
Amrod (Slain by Ungoliant)
Amras (Slain by Orcs in the Bragollach)
Fingon (Slain by Gothmog)
Ereinion Gil-Galad (Slain by Smaug)
Turgon (Murdered by Glorfindel and Ecthelion)
Idril (Slain by Scatha)
Aredhel (Died of grief)
Maeglin (Slain by Glaurung)
Finrod (Slain by a werewolf)
Artanis aka Galadriel (Died in the Ruin of Nargothrond)
Orodreth (Killed accidentally by a poisoned trap)
Finduilas (Poisoned by alcoholism and Mim the Petty-Dwarf)
Gwindor (Slain by Orcish torturers)
Aegnor (Slain by Orcs in the Bragollach)
Angrod (Slain by Ungoliant)
Salgant (Survived!)
Glorfindel (Slain by Orcish torturers)

TELERI/SINDAR

Olwe (Slain by Ancalagon)
Thingol (vanished chasing a Maia even prettier than Melian)
Celeborn (Slain by Glaurung)
Celebrian (Survived! Won consolation mallorn)
Mablung (Burnt by a Silmaril)
Beleg (Lynched by Turin and the Gaurwaith)
Daeron (Went East and vanished)
Saeros (Drowned in the Great Ocean)
Eol (Fell on Anguirel)
Cirdan (Slain by Balrogs)
Nimloth (Slain by Dwarves of Nogrod)
Elwing (Perished of grief)

FORCES OF EVIL

Morgoth (Thrust into the Void by the Valar)
Ungoliant (Devoured herself)
Sauron (Survived! Won second place and a Silmaril Award)
Gothmog (Slain by Ecthelion)
Eonwe (Slain by Hurin and Maeglin)
Curunir (Slain by Idril)
Draugluin (Eaten by Dragons)
Glaurung (Twice wounded by Maeglin, slain by Nienor)
Ancalagon (Slain by Celegorm)
Morgoth, Curse of (Lifted by Varda)
Scatha (Slain by Tuor)
Smaug (Slain by Earendil)

MAIA

Osse (Divorced by Uinen and taken to the Void)
Uinen (Survived!)
Huan (Tricked into deathtrap by Tevildo)
Olorin
Tilion (Crash-landed)
Arien (Slew herself)

VANYAR

Ingwe (Banished to the Halls of Mandos)
Indis (Crushed by Smaug)
Amarie (Survived! Won a Silmaril Award)

MAIA/ELF

Luthien (Died of old age, ahhh)

DWARVES

Azaghal of Belegost (Slain by Glaurung)
Telchar of Nogrod (Slain by Maedhros)
Mim the Petty-dwarf (Died in the Ruin of Nargothrond)
Khim (Slain by Turin)
Ibun (Slain by Turin)

MEN

Balan/Beor
Baran
Bereg
Marach
Amlach (All the above died of causes natural or Orc-induced)
Haldad (Causes Orc-induced)
Haleth (Died of old age)
Haldar (Causes Orc-induced)
Barahir (Slain by an Orc-captain as he slept)
Bregolas (Fell in the Bragollach)
Hador (Natural causes)
Galdor (Orc-induced)
Halmir (Etc)
Haldir (Etc)
Beren (Died of old age, ahhh)
Dior (Burnt by a Silmaril)
Hurin (Slain by Morgoth)
Huor (Slain by Eonwe)
Morwen (Whipped to death by Brodda)
Turin (Shot by minions of Brodda)
Nienor (Slew herself after killing Glaurung)
Tuor (Fell to a Balrog in the Siege of Gondolin)
Handir (Orc-induced)
Bor
Borlach & co. (Nirnaeth-induced)
Ulfang (Slain by Maglor)
Uldor & co. (Slain by Caranthir)
Brodda (Slain by Turin)
Brandir (Slain by Glaurung)
Forweg
Androg (Both crushed by Tilion's craft)
Elured
Elurin (Both slain by Dwarves of Nogrod)

PEREDHIL

Earendil (Crushed under Smaug)
Elrond (Survived!)
Elros (Survived!)

Quite some party!

Anguirel
11-28-2005, 10:44 AM
The party got off to a rather baroque start when Feanor poured wine over Indis' hair after she made a jibe about his mother.

Manwe quickly restored order-he was gloating about his temporary return to power from the Void-and the Valar and Maiar opened a vast waltz. Soon Elves and Men alike joined the dancers, followed by Dwarves, Dragons and sundry other types.

Ancalagon and Scatha performed a particularly fiery and passionate slow dance, thereby settling the vexing question of Scatha's gender. There were romantic scenes of reuniting as sundered couples like Tuor and Idril, or Celebrimbor and Nienor, danced together one last time.

To everyone's shock and surprise, Amarie turned down Finrod for a spin with the dashing Caranthir, but after they rowed fiercely over a bottle of Dorthonion she was seen returning to her true love's side, Silmaril and all. Elbereth flirted outrageously with Beren to irritate Luthien, and certainly succeeded.

Over the whole scene, from vignettes glittering to tawdry to torrid to heartrending, the musical support of Daeron and Salgant wafted, though Maedhros stood apart sadly, wishing a third harp could be playing.

But everyone agreed that the evening's finest couple were Turin and Finduilas. If only things had worked out differently in life; but afterlife had healed some of the damage.

As Maeglin whirled by with the Valier Nienna on his arm, Morgoth growled in possessive jealousy, but Nienna consistently refused to take to the floor with him.

Perhaps the most astonishing spectacle of all was Survivor runner-up Sauron drifting past with Melian on his arm. Where the enchantment of Melian met the sorcery of Sauron, eh, eh...

On that somewhat unexpected note, the party concluded, and the parties went their separate ways, and destinies, once more.

THE END.

Coming next in the Survivor series...the Hobbit Survivor, hosted by Glirdan. Make sure you catch it!

Lalaith
11-29-2005, 07:45 AM
Ah...how nice that Turin and Finduilas got to do a little post-mortem cosying...so what *did* happen to Maglor? Where Is He Now?

The 1,000 Reader
11-29-2005, 01:25 PM
To put it in orcish terms, Maglor is being emo on a beach.

Anguirel
11-30-2005, 09:46 AM
For your entertainment/edification, I've added the fates of all the active contestants to the guest list...but Maglor remains a mystery, just as he should be.

Thanks, fanbase. This was great fun, even if I didn't manage to pull off all my designs! (mutterCurufinasHighKingmutter)

arcticstorm
11-30-2005, 09:53 AM
What ever happened to Anatar and Pallando? they were not on the guest list

Anguirel
11-30-2005, 10:01 AM
Well spotted. But I won't correct that, as I think it's rather appropriate for them...

The Saucepan Man
11-30-2005, 10:35 AM
... even if I didn't manage to pull off all my designs!I would have regarded my participation a failure if you had. :p ;)

Thanks for all your effort on this Ang. An excellent job all round, and great entertainment. :)