TOL-IN-GAURHOTH XII, Erbar Telamarth

[the guy who be short]

I'm pretty sure Firefoot was just killed off for being a known innocent - same as LMP and mormegil. It was just our rotten luck that two of them were gifteds.

People ask why I commited suicide... Well...

Firstly, I worked out that double lynchings would help our chances of winning. Halway through my last Day, I was also suddenly struck by the fact that Boro was completely innocent because of the Sauce comment - I couldn't imagine a wolf ever being so careless.

So, I knew Esty, morm and Boro were innocent. I suspected Enca, Fea and Mr U. If you look at my suicide posts, you'll notice I had made very clear demands pertaining to my death:

Now here's the deal. I'm willing to be double lynched, but toDay is our last Day with mormian input. After that, there are no known innocents.

So, I'm willing to be lynched, on these conditions:

Esty and mormegil are recognised as innocents.

Encaitare is lynched with me.

If Enca is not a wolf, Fea and Boro are lynched next Day, with Esty as the final voter, if she can manage this.After this, I suddenly realised Boro's innocence thanks to a Mr U post, and swapped the two around:

If Enca is not a wolf, on Day Two, please lynch: Feanor, Mr Underhill. Esty should be the one keeping her vote til the end, as I trust her most out of all of you, minus morm, who would die in the Night.The way I saw it, the village had nothing to lose as long as it stuck to my plan. By killing myself, people could see I had honest intentions and go along with what I said.

Unfortunately, knuckleheads that you all are, you screwed it up and killed Boro. :p Though Encai was still my top suspect, I could just see a wolfy Mr U winning the game...

In any case, if the village had listened to me, we'd have won a Day earlier. :smokin:

In conclusion, I've forgotten the point I was trying to make.

Thank you for listening.

[mormegil]

I'd be interested in hearing how Enca spotted Firefoot too. I honestly had no clue, or idea, Firefoot was the Seer.

My guess is they were systematically killing the 3 known innocents off one by one in order of least suspicion. For example nobody suspected LMP of being guilty and therefore he was the first to go. I was the most plausible of the three to be a wolf therefore I was last. It was somewhat unfortunate that it was Firefoot and not another that voted for Cailin.

Speaking of Firefoot, this is her second time at being a seer and I think she played brilliant. Before she died she left us sufficient clues to know who she dreamt of and who she didn't though Boromir was a bit ambiguous but I believe that was out of necessity. It's a difficult role to play and she did it very well.

Ah now I lament that I couldn't trust Mister Underhill sooner though because the day we lynched Formendacil I wanted to do a double lynching of Enca too but I didn't dare speak my thoughts openly to anybody I just had to hope and wait.

[Boromir88]

I basically had the same reasoning with tgwbs, as far as suicidal. I thought if I was going to attract this much doubt and suspicion, just get me out of the way and leave it up to the "knuckleheads" to catch the last wolf. Which they did. Congrats. :D

[Mister Underhill]

It's fascinating how even an innocent can look guilty as sin when viewed in the right light. Sorry, Fea and Shorty. I don't think I could ever be a trial lawyer -- sorry, loyer ;) -- I couldn't live with the uncertainty, even when it's only that last little 1% of doubt.

The game is quite interesting strategy-wise, too. You have to look suspicious enough that the wolves want to keep you alive, but not so suspicious that your fellows lynch you. I lucked out a little bit in that regard, I reckon, with some blundering early moves.

That second-to-last day was a disaster, and credit to Enca for creating such confusion without completely giving herself away. I was so mixed up that night that I probably could have been talked into casting a vote for myself. When it was all over I was sitting at my computer wondering how I ended up lynching Shorty/Boro when my top suspects most of the day had been Enca/Fea. To my dying day I'll never understand the suicide votes -- I was convinced one of you was running the ultimate bold bluff.

Firefoot voted for two wolves in three votes; I assumed that's why she got mauled. Nice job, Fire, in leaving clues that could be deciphered after your demise.

[Gurthang]

++the phantom

For Best Moderator ever. Seriously, that was some pretty awesome narration.

Oh, and lynch

++the phantom

for dragging it out so long and trying to kill us with all the suspense. ;)

Excellent game everyone. :D

[the phantom]

Seer: Firefoot
Ranger: littlemanpoet
Hunter: Eomer of the Rohirrim
Wolves: Cailin, Formendacil, Encaitare
Cursed: Mister Underhill

NIGHT ONE
Seer Dream: mormegil

DAY ONE
Hunter Pick: Cailin (a Wolf)
Lynch: Anguirel

NIGHT TWO
Seer Dream: Boromir88
Ranger Protect: mormegil
Hunter Pick: Cailin (a Wolf)
Wolf Kill: Eomer of the Rohirrim (the Hunter, takes Cailin the Wolf with him)

DAY TWO
Lynch: Shelob

NIGHT THREE
Seer Dream: Mister Underhill (the Cursed)
Ranger Protect: Boromir88
Wolf Kill: littlemanpoet (the Ranger)

DAY THREE
Lynch: Formendacil (a Wolf), Lhunardawen

NIGHT FOUR
Seer Dream: Encaitare (a Wolf)
Wolf Kill: Firefoot (the Seer)

DAY FOUR
Lynch: Boromir88, the guy who be short

NIGHT FIVE
Wolf Pick: mormegil

DAY FIVE
Lynch: Feanor of the Peredhil, Encaitare (final Wolf)

VILLAGERS WIN

SURVIVORS
Mister Underhill and Estelyn Telcontar

[the phantom]

So, no one has spotted one of my little hidden secrets?

Two of them are fairly tough to spot, but there are three that are not too difficult.

Need hints?

[the phantom]

I looked up the "Erbar Telamarth" a few days ago and found Quenya word elements
Yep. ;)

That's all Erbar Telamarth is- a combination of certain word elements.

The definitions of the elements tell, in a vague and general sense, what the village was.

[The Saucepan Man]

Boy, I wish that I could have participated in that one. Alas, attendance at a work seminar prevented me (although, as it turned out, I did have internet access there). Still, for a game that I wasn't playing in, I did seem to feature rather a lot ... :D

Whether I am playing, or merely standing on the sidelines cheering, I always seem to become convinced that someone innocent is a Wolf. For the last two Days, I was shouting at my screen for you all to lynch Esty. :rolleyes: I couldn't understand why everyone seemed so confident in her innocence.

Mind you, I was also shouting at you all for lynching Boro, who was quite clearly innocent to me. So at least I got something right.

Great game and well played by all concerned. But particular praise for Boro (whose "new persona" amused me greatly), lmp (for his early lecherous antics), morm (for being so clearly committed to the cause) and Esty and Underhillo (for getting into the swing of things remarkably quickly, given the experience of many of the other players). Bad luck to the Wolves too, who made the best of a bad situation. A difficult set of innocents to deceive, and it looks from phantom's list that Eomer's pick to hunt Cailin was at least part random, given that he chose her on Night 1. Although credit must go to Eomer for the move which set up the conditions for a villager win and for, I believe, the first successful use of the Hunter's specific gift.

I would praise the phantom too for his outstanding moderation (both in formulating the rules and for the narraction), but I am afraid that, if I did, his head would swell to such proportions that it would burst out of my screen ... ;)

[Boromir88]

Mind you, I was also shouting at you all for lynching Boro, who was quite clearly innocent to me. So at least I got something right.
Hey, I actually had another defender. :D I really was surprised I survived the first night. I kind of wanted to try something new (inspired by Fea in her WW Jr I) and wanted to add my "insulting role" touch. The other games I was more "proper" in analyzing everything, here I just kind of went with my gut feeling, and think a bit of luck was in it too.

Again, I say this was the funnest one I have been in, mostly due to the excellently modded game by Master Phantom (I think you deserve this title now ;) ) and all the members involved.

[the phantom]

Okay, I've skimmed over my narration and, though you could probably make a case that there are more, I found 15 ITEMS that have an invisible ;) next to them.

There is one that only Eomer can spot (if his memory is good enough to stretch back to the game he modded), and there is one that only Enca can spot.

So that leaves 13 for the rest of you.

(actually, one has been "found" already but has not been completed- the name of the village)

[Mister Underhill]

I make it out to be something to the effect of "Village of the Doomed". Or something like that.

Are the other "easter eggs" recognizable to noob players?

[the phantom]

I make it out to be something to the effect of "Village of the Doomed". Or something like that.
Yeah, pretty much.

This is the translation I had in mind-
er= solitary
bar= dwelling
tel= final
amarth= doom
Are the other "easter eggs" recognizable to noob players?
Yes sir.

One easter egg was a wink towards the day's events.

One I'm sure several people caught was a play on the person's village occupation.

One is a song reference, and is fairly obvious.

One is a movie reference (once again, pretty straight forward).

Three reference things in Downs history.

One references an event in Middle Earth history.

Two are plays on people's names.

Two names are easter eggs. When you think about it, it should be clear whose names I mean.

There's one only Eomer can get, and one only Enca can get (though others may figure it out if Enca lets out some of her thoughts from her Firefoot killing).

Perhaps we should start a new game called "The Quest to Find Phantom's Fifteen Fun Things". :p

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well, if you mean this passage, phantom, I noticed it, of course! "You're ALL a bunch of MORONS!" screamed Boromir, insulting the entire village for the umpteenth time that day.

"I wish you'd stop needling everyone!" chided Esty, the seamstress.

"I think we should lynch Esty for trying to be punny," offered Anguirel.

"Oh, don't be so knit-picky!" said Esty.

Everyone groaned.

Lovely puns! I included a couple in my posts, but apparently not enough to have everyone wanting my lynching...

[Shelob]

There is one that only Eomer can spot (if his memory is good enough to stretch back to the game he modded)

if it's just a reference to that game couldn't I concievably get it too? I was a wolf in that game after all...



And within this game I'm rather impressed that the last villagers to survive (and win) were those who'd never played before...good job.

[mormegil]

I forgot to mention that I had this horrible sinking feeling that I was going to be the cursed villager, I've had this feeling before and I was the cursed. Needless to say I was a bit worried about the night I died and if I was the cursed what would happen. I was thinking that it would almost be pointless in defending myself. Phantom probably was annoyed with my post alluding to my notion that I was cursed.

[Formendacil]

I'm totally ignorant to what the Phantom has hidden for us, so I'm going to leave that to those with better brains, and present my post-game "tell-all":

DAY 1 was a lying low day. Everyone was supposed to act innocent, act random, and vote as unsuspiciously as possible. That worked for me- but after I signed out for the night, Cailin came THIS close to being lynched.

NIGHT 2 we killed Eomer. I think I suggested him, but the Lady Wolves agreed. The reasoning went that Eomer was someone who did NOT have strong suspicions of any of us, and by killing him we would be removing a very smart, experienced, villager. It was REALLY bad luck for us that Eomer was both the Hunter and that he had decided to take down Cailin.

DAY 2 was a day of survival. We needed to insinuate ourselves- if possible- into the "Innocence Clique"- as well as raising suspicions about as many people as possible. Unfortunately, both Enca and I were coming under suspicion. Still, we managed to survive the day.

NIGHT 2 Enca and I decided to kill one of the three innocents. It was plain that they had to be weeded out, since they were building themselves into the centre of the village defense. Our reasons for killing LMP, however, had nothing to do with his suspicious level- although that was a factor. Morm was the most suspicious, so we left him- but as far as "Definitely Innocent" went, we would have killed Firefoot- except that we thought the Ranger would be protecting her for the same reason. So we killed LMP. Imagine our great pleasure the next day in finding that we had caught the Ranger!

DAY 3 I met my demise. I knew it was probably coming, with Firefoot continually on my tail, and Morm fanning the flames as well. I HAD hoped to take some of the fire from Enca, or to have Fea or Mister Underhill lynched instead, but that didn't transpire. With less than four hours left, and myself already condemned, I went and sent a PM to Enca (the first use of our daylight PMing during the game, I believe) advising her to kill Firefoot- even though Boromir was acting like the Seer. For all I knew, Boromir was the Seer, but I wanted Firefoot off for her continued pressure on me, and because she seemed to have the best reputation as the most uncannily accurate player of the game, Seer or no. It also meant one less "Innocent". Well, I died, Enca killed Firefoot, and I had the vindication from beyond the grave of seeing Firefoot- the Seer- dead.

Then I spent the last two days watching the game in frenzied anticipation, hoping against hope that Enca could win it. I was jubilant after her Day 4 victory, but I knew there was VERY little hope for Day 4. VERY little hope...

[the phantom]

Lovely puns!
Yes, yes, but I can't take full credit for that. When you pmed me with your choice of seamstress, you mentioned doing seamstress puns, which is why I did what I did.

So thanks for the help, Esty. :)

You could count that as an easter egg, but it's not one of the fifteen I wrote down.
if it's just a reference to that game couldn't I concievably get it too?
No. The reference is to a pm I sent to Eomer during the game.
Phantom probably was annoyed with my post alluding to my notion that I was cursed.
No, no- I didn't mind.

You have no idea how horrible the temptation was to switch you with Mister Underhill and make you the cursed villager.

After all, no one would've known. I'm the only one who knew who the cursed was. If I had made you the cursed it would've lengthened the game and possibly made for a one-on-one ending, which could've been exciting.

But I stayed honest.

[Firefoot]

Sauce - what do you mean you didn't play? You were even accused! ;)

Actually, I'll be honest - I was all set to dream of Sauce on the first night. Then I looked at the list more closely and whoops! He's not there! Luckily I never actually sent that to phantom...

So I decided to dream of Morm instead, for two reasons. He can be a smart player (and he was extremely so in this game. A great thing to know of his innocence), and less nobly, something of a spite dream, because of when he was a Seer and I was a wolf in WWI... (Sorry, Morm, I'm not going to let that one go. :p )

The next two dreams, Boromir and Mr. U., were heavily debated. I didn't want to dream about Formendacil, simply because I thought it would look entirely too suspicious if I suddenly released my campaign of him should he have been innocent. I also didn't want to dream about Fea, though she did plague me pretty well. Encai was always like just the next one down on the list, but her voting on Days 1 and 2 just didn't seem like a suspicious enough votes, and there wasn't anything outwardly suspicious about her.

Boromir was getting to be a very difficult player to defend as innocent towards the end. I was figuring I was going to die, however, I was hoping that if I didn't seem like a Seer the wolf might go after someone else (unfortunately, she didn't). So I didn't want to seem to certain of Boromir's innocence, because he really was acting very suspiciously in my eyes. Which is why I didn't say anything much about his guilt or innocence except that he was acting like an idiot. (Sorry, Boromir.)

But once Formen was lynched and found to be a wolf, I pretty much knew I was going to die. I was already on people's innocent lists (that was *not* supposed to happen. I wanted to be at least a bit suspicious so that the wolves wouldn't kill me), and then I vote for another wolf - no way was I going to survive. I would have been shocked if I had survived, I think. So I put very little effort (probably less than a quarter of the time than the previous two nights) into deciding my pick for the night, and wouldn't you know it but I catch a wolf. The rest is history.

And I'll add my vote to ++phantom for the best modded game ever. Fortunately, I didn't have to experience the same type of suspense as the rest of you - I could wake up in the morning and read the whole thing straight through. :D

[littlemanpoet]

Special praise to Boro88, my suicide buddy, and LMP for his hilarious character, as well a tp's gripping, Middle-Earthian narratives.

I think we should just have killed Fea off at the first. :D

Complete agreement on all counts. ;)

I had intended to send my (ahem) invitations to Lhuna, Cailin, and Encai too, but the timing never worked out. Oh well. So I was a bigamist or something instead. :p

[littlemanpoet]

Why you people continue to let me live, I'll never know. Yes, I didn't tell a single lie in this game... but how would you know that? I can't for the life of me figure out how I can remain like... the top suspect every single day and yet stay alive until the end almost every time. Somebody want to explain this to me?

Easy. Reputation versus the facts. The facts of the case pointed toward other people more than you. Reputation pointed completely toward you. On Day 3 I was going to tell you that you and I were both guilty of "overthink" in regard to each other, and I was betting that you weren't a werewolf; you weren't playing a werewolfish game the way I would expect Feanor of the Peredhil to do it. So I was going to suggest a truce, which me being considered so innocent by everybody else, would have either swayed opinion in your favor, or against me ... but I was so considered squeaky clean in this game that I could have used a little more suspicion my way. So thanks for your help in that regard, though it was to little avail, based on reputation rather than facts itself. :)

[Encaitare]

That second-to-last day was a disaster, and credit to Enca for creating such confusion without completely giving herself away. I was so mixed up that night that I probably could have been talked into casting a vote for myself.

The funny thing was, it really was a mistake. I had a total brain fart. Although after agonizing over my stupidity, I decided that since I was going to get lynched in the end, I might as well confuse you all a lot before going down. :rolleyes:

I've really no idea about the phantom's Easter Egg thing regarding the choice of killing Firefoot. I didn't even suspect her to be the Seer; it was just pure luck for the wolves that there happened to be gifteds amongst the Three Innocents.

Ah, this was an awesome game. Cheers to Lord Phantom for his fantastic modding. Nice playing, everyone. :D

[littlemanpoet]

I'd have to say this was the funnest time I had in a WW game. I wanted to try something different, instead of being a "well-liked" guy. Though I really was...annoyed...at the end, guess I couldn't blame anyone for wanting to be rid of me.

And a few words to Esty...besides my slandering your sewing I don't think I lied once during the game, so you could have taken me at face value. I really did think morm was the seer, since he spotted Cailin, then suddenly went after Formendacil.

I guarded you on Night 2, little good it did either you or me!

My notes for planning who to guard on Night 2 came down to this:

Seer

Not: Feanor, Mr. U.
Not likely: Firefoot (duh-uh!), Guy (werewolf?), Esty, Morm, Formy (werewolf?), Encai (werwolf?)
Neutral: Lhuna (not enough info)
Could be: Boromir

Oh, On Night 1 I guarded Morm. It was a toss-up between Eomer and Morm, and since I was more convinced of Morm than Eomer, Morm it was. Just imagine if I'd have guarded Eomer! I'd have messed everything up! :eek:

[Encaitare]

I had intended to send my (ahem) invitations to Lhuna, Cailin, and Encai too, but the timing never worked out.

It's just as well for you... we weregirls wouldn't have taken kindly to such advances. ;)

You know what I realized, and in my post-double-lynched delerium really amused me? Fea-Wolf sounds very much like Beowulf. Just wanted to share that fascinating tidbit with you all. :p

[littlemanpoet]

I'm pretty sure Firefoot was just killed off for being a known innocent - same as LMP and mormegil. It was just our rotten luck that two of them were gifteds.Your certainty at the beginning of Day 2 began to look to me like werewolvery. I was going to be all after you on Day 3. In fact, Mr. U's case against you on - what - Day 5, was precisely what I had been ready to present on Day 3.

People ask why I commited suicide... Well...

Firstly, I worked out that double lynchings would help our chances of winning.

I continue to be against multiple lynchings. Here's why: all the mathematical working out you do cannot account for the additional days of discussion rendered by only lynching one victim per Day. The discussions and analysis, and give and take all add up to more chances for a werewolf to slip up or vote in a way that reveals at least suspicion, if not guilt. And as you later pointed out in the post I'm quoting, your conditions were not followed, and therefore your outcome was anything but assured; which of course is completely to be expected in the dynamics of a game like this.

Oh, and I'm against suicides. It's the easy way out, like multiple lynchings. So there's a good reason to keep the cobbler, or at least the suggestion of a cobbler's existence, in the game.

[littlemanpoet]

Ah now I lament that I couldn't trust Mister Underhill sooner though because the day we lynched Formendacil I wanted to do a double lynching of Enca too but I didn't dare speak my thoughts openly to anybody I just had to hope and wait.

Ah but you could have trusted him sooner. On Day 3 I was going to point out an additional factor in Cailin's now infamous slip-up post in which she suggested that the werewolves were experienced. I found this interesting, and seeing as it was part of the same paragraph that had pointed her out to me as a werewolf, I decided to hypothesize that Esty and Mr. U. were both innocent ordinaries, and see where that would lead me. It led to strong suspicions of Guy, Formy, and Encai, in that order. I wasn't sure which of those three were the two remaining werewolves, but I was pretty convinced that two of these were the ones. Enca's vote on Day 1 incriminated her: she saved Cailin. What about bluffing and double bluffing? Well, Occam's Razor is a handy tool: accept the simplest answer that successfully accounts for all of the information. Fact: Encai did save Cailin (not Anguirel). On Day 2, Encai defended me and Mr. U., which I discounted based on my innocence and the hypothesized innocence of Mr. U. Formy defended Guy, which placed Guy in suspicion with me. Guy defended Enca. And Formy kept voting for Mr. U., whom I thought to be innocent. And Boromir kept voting for Formy, which fit my hypothesis of Boro's innocence and Formy's guilt. But I was going to save my strongest attack for Guy, because so much of what he said on Day 2 was self-incriminating. Oh well, maybe I'll last longer in another game. :rolleyes:

[the phantom]

If you want to find the so-called "easter eggs"....

1. Easter Egg One Completed- Erbar Telamarth's meaning

2. Post #37 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=422414&postcount=37), reference to Downs history

3. Post #37 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=422414&postcount=37), character name

4. Post #39 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=422638&postcount=39), reference to Middle Earth history

5. Post #40 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=422640&postcount=40), reference to Downs history

6. Post #199 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=423422&postcount=199), joke on village occupation

7. Post #199 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=423422&postcount=199), song reference

8. Post #201 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=423616&postcount=201), character name

9. Post #273 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=423881&postcount=273), movie reference

10. Post #273 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=423881&postcount=273), play on person's name

11. Post #275 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=424012&postcount=275), reference to Enca pm

12. Posts #416 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=424371&postcount=416) and #417 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=424375&postcount=417), commentary on Day's events

13. Post #417 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=424375&postcount=417), reference to Eomer pm (in WW III, I believe)

14. Post #419 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=424572&postcount=419), reference to Downs history

15. Post #467 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=424842&postcount=467), play on person's name

Some of them aren't even hidden- they are just things that I wondered if anyone noticed.
I've really no idea about the phantom's Easter Egg thing regarding the choice of killing Firefoot. I didn't even suspect her to be the Seer
You have "no idea", Enca? Are you sure? Look at what you just said-
I didn't even suspect her to be the Seer
I included that in my narrative. See it? ;)

[littlemanpoet]

One is a movie reference (once again, pretty straight forward).
Oh, I split my guts on that one: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Give me my prize unless it's been claimed already. :D

[Shelob]

On top of the table, all covered in, well, me
I lost my poor head when 'twas cut by L-M-P

It rolled off the table, and onto the floor,
And then my poor head, it rolled out of the door.

It rolled down the garden, and under a bush,
And then my poor head, it was nothing but mush!

I had actually cought that, just forgot about it...mostly because I couldn't remember the words...thanks to google though that's been remedied...

[Encaitare]

I included that in my narrative. See it? ;)

Ah. I get it now. :cool:

[Firefoot]

'If you look closely at Formendacil, you will find micro elf dna'." Ah, micro elf dna is a anagram of Formendacil.

The reference to the skwerl dying when you voted for yourself made me grin.You know what I realized, and in my post-double-lynched delerium really amused me? Fea-Wolf sounds very much like Beowulf. Hehe, I noticed that too, the other night.

Seer
Not likely: Firefoot (duh-uh!) :D

[littlemanpoet]

(in a PM to the phantom)By the way, my now famous "bait and switch bluff" was just a lot of hooey at the time, just some verbage I threw out there for the sake of expression, but I think I actually have seen it described (by Feanor?) in this game. I have to admit I'm still a little confused by the concept, having just made it up to originally have no real meaning, but I do think I see Guy actually putting it to use!

So what do you think a bait and switch bluff would be, since it's so far undefined? Anybody?

[the phantom]

Ah. I get it now.
So- Enca has spotted her Easter Egg.

When Enca pmed me with her choice of killing Firefoot, she was hoping to get lucky and kill the Cursed Villager. She had no idea Firefoot was the Seer (I don't think anyone did- nice job FF).

So, I included it in my narrative-
"Just a minute, here!" exclaimed Fea. "Are you telling us that-"

"-Firefoot was a seer?!" finished Enca.

And Shelob noticed the song reference in her death scene-
The villagers turned towards Shelob in time to see her head roll off the table and onto the floor (then out of the door, through the garden, and under a bush, and was then nothing but moosh).
This one just happened. I wrote the sentence as it is outside of the parenthesis, and when I read it through I couldn't help but think of On Top of Spaghetti, so I added it.

And Firefoot has spotted a couple. From the narrative-
If you look closely at Formendacil, you will find micro elf dna
Yes- "Formendacil" can indeed be rearranged to spell "micro elf dna".

And Firefoot also spotted one of the Downs history references- Esty's concern for skwerls.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

So what do you think a bait and switch bluff would be, since it's so far undefined? Anybody?
Ooh, ooh, pick me! My definition of a bait and switch bluff would be as follows:

One Fea-wolf lays the bait carefully to lead suspicion subtley but directly to one innocent (or, equally likely, also guilty) villager. Just as the villagers take the well-hidden bait, Fea-wolf switches it up and points her finger to a new villager (or more likely, a new wolf), using a rather lot of obvious evidence to convict said person.

Due to invisible "bait", the village is permanently, though latently, suspicious of the original, and extremely worried about the "switch". Should both villagers survive, after Fea's death, they will likely be killed because everybody knows I'm willing to throw my team mates to the erm... wolves. :D

[Cailín]

Seriously, this game was more stressful than any game I've participated in before. It's terrible being a wolf.

I think during Night 2, I first suggested killing either Lhuna or Fea, because of some random brainwave I don't quite understand anymore. Next I was willing to kill one of the people who voted for me, especially Firefoot, because I was so worried about her I would risk the village going after me the next day. When we finally more or less agreed on Eomer, I got a real bad feeling about it and I almost sent a PM to Formendacil - who was going to deliver the message - to kill LMP instead. But I didn't, much to my dismay the day after.

One more thing: A nice twist to this game, wasn't it Cailín? I think we're just meant to be together.

I think next time when I accidentally sign up for a game you're in, I'll either have to ignore your existence or just commit suicide. :o

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Phantom, I knew what you meant as soon as you mentioned that PM you sent me in WWIII. Referred to when you told how Boromir88, with his last action before dying, gave the villagers the bird. :D Reading it, I'm surprised you didn't go with the 'fingers-straight-as-arrows' line. ;) (It was in reference to The Phantom's self-suggested death in Storyland.

LMP, lucky indeed that you didn't pick me on NIGHT 2!

Why did I pick Cailín even after I voted for Boromir88 that day? Well, I didn't really suspect Boro – in fact, I basically said that in my post. It was just that he gave me reasons to choose him (however poor) and I wanted to get the discussion going. Also, voting early on Day One is always hard.

I got really lucky with Cailín. My main reason for choosing her was this: She voted for me despite the numerous clues I had given in my posts to suggest my secret role. I really didn't think any innocent would vote for me that Day and, even if she was innocent, she deserved to die for not reading carefully enough! :p

Did anyone catch the clues which alluded to my Hunting ways? As it happened, Anguirel guessed I was the Hunter but for entirely different reasons!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Phantom, I knew what you meant as soon as you mentioned that PM you sent me in WWIII. Referred to when you told how Boromir88, with his last action before dying, gave the villagers the bird. :D Reading it, I'm surprised you didn't go with the 'fingers-straight-as-arrows' line. ;) (It was in reference to The Phantom's self-suggested death in Storyland.
Hey, I remember that! I laughed really hard when I found out what he'd suggested for his own demise. The fingers straight as arrows... I'm surprised I didn't remember it before.

Did anyone catch the clues which alluded to my Hunting ways? As it happened, Anguirel guessed I was the Hunter but for entirely different reasons!
Only after you were dead. :rolleyes: Oops.

[the guy who be short]

Mortakh was, I presume, a joke. I can't make much of it though.

Mort is French for dead, and akh might possibly be Egyptian? I'm not sure.

Alternatively, you could be demanding more taxes, or tacks, or tackier games.

[mormegil]

Mortakh=More Talk

[the phantom]

Phantom, I knew what you meant as soon as you mentioned that PM you sent me in WWIII.
And so, Eomer has found his easter egg. :)

For those of you who aren't in the know, once I realized I was going to be lynched in WW III despite my most excellent arguments, I sent Eomer, the Moderator, a pm suggesting a few things to include in my death.

I can't remember exactly how it went, but it was something like this-
His body stopped with a jerk and the villagers heard his neck snap.

"My God- he was innocent... he was telling the truth."

The villagers stood in guilty silence as the executioner cut the rope holding Phantom in the air. Phantom landed hard, face down on the ground. His tied hands were clenched tightly behind his back, all except his middle fingers, which were as straight as arrows.
Mortakh was, I presume, a joke.
Yes, it was. Can anyone figure out the joke behind Mortakh the orc captain?

You don't need a foreign language dictionary.

And no, morm, that's not it- though your guess is rather good, seeing as I did indeed want this game to be a "more talk" game.

[Mister Underhill]

I think my favorite narration was at the end of Day 4, in posts 416-417 (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?p=424371#post424371). It perfectly captures the utter confusion of that day and I think you can sense even the moderator's amazement at the two suicide votes.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

It causes every person in a village to distrust everyone else- even their own spouse and children.
I'm sure I could be wrong, but this reminds me of that time that m'dear Lord Phantom played the part of my husband, the Innkeeper. I'd have killed him in a heartbeat.

Three years before, Sauron had turned Phantom into a werewolf. Usually, Sauron would go to the outskirts of a village and draw the three villagers with the darkest hearts to him and put into them a foul werewolf spirit, but he had gone out of his way to make Phantom a wolf. Phantom did not come to him- he pursued and captured Phantom. Phantom was a young, intelligent, persuasive man, and Sauron knew he would make a perfect werewolf- and he did.
Was it WWIX where tp was the one of those mwahahahahaing wolves?

I foresee that you will be killed by a lone, unarmed midget!
I laughed on this one.

For the joke on a village occupation, I see morm saying "don't kill the messenger" and I see the lecherous innkeeper commencing the game of spin-the-bottle.

So, you think Feanor of the Peredhil is our thin feral feeder? Pooh!

Anagram.

[the phantom]

Congrats, Fea- you've spotted some easter eggs.

Egg #2 concerns history here on the Downs- the fact that I have been a wolf in other villages (II and X).
I foresee that you will be killed by a lone, unarmed midget!
Yes, that was the reference to Middle Earth history I was looking for in egg #4.
So, you think Feanor of the Peredhil is our thin feral feeder? Pooh!
Anagram
Yes, indeed. Feanor of the Peredhil was rearranged to make "thin feral feeder? Pooh!".

Good eye. That was egg #15.
I see morm saying "don't kill the messenger"
Yes, that was egg #6.

So, we still have numbers 3, 5, 8, 9, and 12.

Nine is extremely easy to spot.

3 and 8 go hand in hand, you might say. If you figure one out, you will figure the other one out fairly quickly I should think.

[the phantom]

Also, I just have to ask- those of you who were reading my game-ending posts as I was making them, especially those still "alive" (Underhill, Esty, Fea), did I succeed in temporarily making you believe someone other than Enca was the wolf?

I wanted you to think at first it was Underhill or Esty, and then when Fea crashed into them I wanted you to think it was her, and then finally learn it was Enca. Did it work?

[Formendacil]

Also, I just have to ask- those of you who were reading my game-ending posts as I was making them, especially those still "alive" (Underhill, Esty, Fea), did I succeed in temporarily making you believe someone other than Enca was the wolf?

I wanted you to think at first it was Underhill or Esty, and then when Fea crashed into them I wanted you to think it was her, and then finally learn it was Enca. Did it work?

Not for me...

I was eagerly watching despite the relatively late hour, and you had me thoroughly annoyed at dragging it out for so long.

And I knew the truth of the matter!

[the phantom]

Of course it didn't work on you, Formy- you were a wolf! :rolleyes:
you had me thoroughly annoyed at dragging it out for so long
Hey, now, if it worked on at least one or two people then you have to admit it was worth it.

And don't tell me not to drag things out. If you continue to complain, next time you're in one of my games, I will make you the seer and really drag out revealing your dream every night. As a matter of fact, I'll drag it out throughout the day and only tell you after voting has begun.

Never get annoyed with me- for I can always do far worse.

Mwu ha ha ha!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Well, phantom, I was very sure that Enca was the wolf, but I must admit that your way of stretching out the suspense did have me doubting just a bit! At any rate, it was a highly entertaining series of posts - the last day was my favorite for that reason! It was simultaneously aggravating and amusing.

[Anguirel]

I wasn't sure if it was Enca or Mr. Underhill, I admit, but I'd completely cleared the other two...

[Mister Underhill]

It worked on me, too -- for a minute there, I wasn't sure I wasn't the wolf.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You would have been, Underhill, if Enca had gotten you instead of morm!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

It almost worked up to a point. I knew I wasn't a wolf, and I was remarkably certain that Esty wasn't. I was still considering Underhill, but once I saw my body fly through the air, I knew it was Encai.
Yes, indeed. Feanor of the Peredhil was rearranged to make "thin feral feeder? Pooh!".

Good eye. That was egg #15.
Why thankee very much.

[Mister Underhill]

You would have been, Underhill, if Enca had gotten you instead of morm!I had a bit of an intuition that I might be cursed, and I spent some of Night Four contemplating what my strategy would be if I was attacked instead of morm (I don't know about the rest of you, but I caught myself thinking about the game at odd times over the whole run). I thought it unlikely that the wolf would come after me after Enca's mistake, since morm still looked the most innocent, but it was fun to think up ways that I could try to frame morm as the cursed.

[the guy who be short]

Ah! Mortakh the Mucous is the phantom's Orkish name, according to the BD name translators.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

but it was fun to think up ways that I could try to frame morm as the cursed.
I have to admit secretly coveting the role of cursèd and activated. The challenge of going from suspected innocent to unsuspected wolf strikes my fancy like you wouldn't believe.

[the guy who be short]

...And "phantom" gets Ufdreg the Sneak. :D

[Anguirel]

Orkish Name for Master Phantom
Grotgork the Strangler
This name is for both genders.

According to the Red Book of Westmarch,
In Middle-earth, Lord Phantom was a
Ale-drinking Umbarian

Hobbit lad name for Sir Phantom
Bingo Baker from Longbottom

Dwarven Name for King Phantom
Nerin Lightninglaughter
This name is for both genders.

And, crucially:

Orkish Name for King Phantom
Mortakh the No-Tooth
This name is for both genders.

[The Only Real Estel]

First off:
Posted by Gurthang:
++the phantom

For Best Moderator ever. Seriously, that was some pretty awesome narration.

Oh, and lynch

++the phantom

for dragging it out so long and trying to kill us with all the suspense.

Excellent game everyone.


I couldn't have said it better myself. I was alternately ticked at you for dragging out suspense & praising you for your awesomeness. I especially liked your last scene.

My thought process was something like this:

What!? Esty!! Wow. Wait...no, it could be Underhill. Huh. NO! It's Fea! They should've known! What, Enca? Yes, it is ENCA!! Fantastic.

Posted by SpM:
I would praise the phantom too for his outstanding moderation (both in formulating the rules and for the narraction), but I am afraid that, if I did, his head would swell to such proportions that it would burst out of my screen ;)...

Oh, you must have one of those huge computer monitors. His head outgrew my screen months ago. :p

Posted by Enca:
The funny thing was, it really was a mistake. I had a total brain fart...I decided that since I was going to get lynched in the end, I might as well confuse you all a lot before going down.

Uh...that sounds so much like me in my last game it's scary! :eek:

Great game, all!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I must confess, by the time we were down to the last five, before the final wolf killed her prey, I too was thinking about the cursed. Both aspects occurred to me - how on earth were we to find out someone who had posted in honest innocence so far? It could be any of us, and I started plotting combination lynchings of a "known" innocent and alternately Enca and Fea.

On the other hand, it very briefly occurred to me that I could be the cursed, though I didn't think phantom would have set me up for that role. And you know what? I almost wished to be! It would have been fun to switch roles mid-game, especially since no one ever seriously suspected me. :D

[Cailín]

Honestly, I was half-expecting the phantom to be so thoroughly tempted to switch the cursed that night, the village would wake up with an extra wolf anyway, regardless Enca's choice. Alas, he had more self control than I'd guessed. :p

[Boromir88]

Of all people to find this, of course it's me. I've spotted #9 Lord Phantom

"You know- it."

"Aahh- he said the word!" cried a passing Knight Who Says Ni.

Obviously being Monty Python and the Holy Grail. And the word that can't be "said" being "it."


I'm not sure what you're looking for in twelve, but you kind of played off how everyone acted that day. For instance morm being the guy who suggested we analyze the person below us...
"I say that we thoroughly analyze every single villager," suggested Mormegil.
Then me and Fea, bickering. Claiming I'm innocent and the Seer dreamed of me and her constantly wanting me dead.
"You'll die if you do! And who cares if you're innocent- you'll deserve to die," countered Boromir.
Something I said many times. I especially got a kick out of this.
"Let's double lynch," said morm.

"Let's not," agreed Boro.

"Let's do both," added Enca, helpfully.

"Or perhaps we should do neither," assented Fea.
And this...
"Well," said Fea, "Boro has been right every time and has provided us with lots of entertainment. Let's kill him."
That's basically how I felt her argument was. Let's lynch the most helpful villager, because he's pulling our chain. :D
"I'm just going to do whatever morm says," said Underhill and Esty in chorus.
That was quite in character I think. Then finally tgwbs' and my suicide at the end.

I don't know exactly what you were looking for, but that's basically want went on in that chaotic, suicidal, Day 4.

[the phantom]

Yes, Boro, you spotted the random Monty Python I threw in.

As far as #12 goes, you spotted a lot of the stuff I included that reflected the behavior of the villagers, but you left out a certain recurring theme that I thought was particularly funny.

Besides that, the only thing that's left is #5 I believe. I figured Fea would've snagged it by now.

[littlemanpoet]

Yes, Boro, you spotted the random Monty Python I threw in.Ah, that was it. Not Hitchhiker's Guide. Still, I busted a gut. :D I get all those English comedies confused. :p

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

It's not like him to go missing without telling anyone. Even Fea doesn't know where he is.
Well, I can remember several comments along the lines of "You know... when I decide to go missing for several days, I tell people so that they aren't left wondering."

I also remember generally knowing what you're up to before other people do. So there. Perhaps that?

[the phantom]

Fea got another one. ;)

[Anguirel]

Can we expect your commentary soon, phantom?

[the phantom]

Depends on what your definition of soon is. ;)

(I'm very busy today, Monday too, maybe Tuesday, but I've got time on Wednesday for sure to get it done)

[littlemanpoet]

How many of you guys caught all this fun stuff at the time but, like me, had a hard time or no time to go looking? (thanks, tp, for providing the posts in that handy post of yours, by the way)

[mormegil]

How many of you guys caught all this fun stuff at the time but, like me, had a hard time or no time to go looking? (thanks, tp, for providing the posts in that handy post of yours, by the way)

Not all but a good amount of it.

[Mister Underhill]

Me too. Except for the few insider references to past games, I got most of it. Nice work, phantom.

I knew I was in for a good time when the "unarmed midget" line had me laughing before the game had even begun.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I knew I was in for a good time when the "unarmed midget" line had me laughing before the game had even begun.
I agree. It was a good line.

[littlemanpoet]

What's yours?

Mine was:

"You're all a bunch of knuckle heads!" he rasped, and after giving them all the bird, he slumped back to the floor, dead. - Boromir, as described by Master Phantom. :D

I agreed. :p

[the guy who be short]

I have to agree with you there, LMP. An abridged form of that paragraph appeared in my siggy briefly. My favourite death scene was undoubtably my own - the combined suicidal tendencies of Boromir and me were far too hilarious to stop myself rolling about upon the floor in laughter. :D

[The Only Real Estel]

Posted by lmp:
"You're all a bunch of knuckle heads!" he rasped, and after giving them all the bird, he slumped back to the floor, dead. - Boromir, as described by Master Phantom.

Can't argue with that! I liked it so well & it caught me so much by surprise that I had to rep it. :D

[Lhunardawen]

Have I been gone that long? Or does the Downs run on a different calendar?

Excellent word play on the micro Elf DNA, phantom. I was wondering the whole time what that meant. I thought it had something to do with me being a bio geek... :D

And a wonderful job to all involved in finding these eggs.

lmp, you still are scary. :p

And Eomer dear, what would you have done to prevent my death had you been alive? Give yourself up as a ransom to hostage-taking Formendacil? ;)

[Anguirel]

Everyone-commentary is up!

Mostly it's just the narration...oh well...I don't suppose I was reasonable expecting essays explaining motivations for every sentence...

Interesting that he Dream Teamed us...

[the phantom]

I don't suppose I was reasonable expecting essays explaining motivations for every sentence
Now hold on just a minute- that expectation is perfectly reasonable. You see, the commentary is not complete. I'm still working on all those essays you want. ;)

I'm hoping to be done with the commentary on the narrative by the time I go to bed tonight.

Tomorrow or the day after I'm hoping to complete my Day by Night thoughts.

[the guy who be short]

Ahem... where exactly is this commentary? I don't see a link in tp's siggy, so I'm lost.

[Anguirel]

Aha! Look more closely...

[the guy who be short]

Ah. One of those sneaky links.

Thank you, I guess.