Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil

[Gurthang]

Oh, hey, guess what village, I just realized we're screwed! :rolleyes:

That's right. Screwed. I don't know which of you other peeps left is innocent (there are only two of you... just TWO!), but there is now no possible way we can win.

There are now 7 people left. That's just 6 deaths, since the lovers die together. We would have to lynch 3 evil people to win, and we don't have enough Days left to do it. Saying one dies each Day and Night for the next two Days and two Nights, that leaves us with a nice threesome left that last Day. What's that, you say? What if it's two innocents and a wolf? It can't be. Because it would have to be the lovers left that last Day for there to be three. So they would win. If it's not the lovers, than that means an extra person would have died, and we're left with a wolf and an innocent, so the wolves win.

So, yeah, we're pretty much just hanging out... with no chance to win. That bites. Sucks to be Durelin(if she's innocent), cause this has happened to her before.

I'm tempted to vote now, just, well because it doesn't matter anymore. But I want to stick around and see if I can screw up something later on. :D

[Firefoot]

No, there is a way we can do it - it requires the wolves to pick the innocent Lover to kill, though. Not exactly a great position.

[Gurthang]

No, there is a way we can do it - it requires the wolves to pick the innocent Lover to kill, though. Not exactly a great position.
Oooh. Hadn't considered that.

Well, it's out of our hands in any case. So we might as well have some fun with it. Eh, Lover. :p ;) :rolleyes:*


*Smilies indicate: the tongue to poke fun at the poeple who think Firefoot and I are really lovers, the wink to say I'm joking, and the rolling eyes because there will invariably be people who think I'm not joking. (And I'd place another tongue here for them, but it's not allowed.)

[Durelin]

Finally someone realizes it: it sucks to be me.

Firefoot
Kath
Ang

I believe those to be the three remaining wolves.

Hmm, I wonder why Taliesin isn't dead... :rolleyes:

Innocents - I say we lynch Kath.

Lovers - Help us get rid of a wolf.

A late vote might be better if the wolves keep their voting scattered (with a lover wolf among them, that might happen). An early vote would only be helpful if the innocents all agreed who was a wolf, since tied votes go to the first one to get to the tied amount.

Oh, and Gurthang, whatever you are...stop being a smilie-abusing ninny. :p

[Durelin]

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I must vote rather early toDay.

(RL time - sometime later tonight or early tomorrow morning, EST.)

It really does suck to be me...and no, I will not let that go! :rolleyes:

[Firefoot]

Welll, I'm not sure why Taliesin isn't dead, but at least we don't have to deal with him. He's either ordo or innocent lover; the former, we don't want to kill him, the latter, if we kill him we're dead. So there's no point in dealing with him.

That leaves Durelin, Kath, Lalaith, Ang, and Gurthang (and me) - a rather ambiguous set of individuals, I'd say. Whichever ones of you turns out to be wolves, I don't think I'll be terribly surprised. You all look suspicious. But I'm too tired right now to figure out who's most suspicious.

[Gurthang]

Well... it's very... quiet.

*Looks across ship's deck. A tumbleweed (from nowhere) blows across the vacant timbers.*

What? Are you people afraid to speak up now? Just because we're as good as dead doesn't mean we have to be quiet just yet. :D

And look at the bright side: ( :rolleyes: ) As Firefoot points out, we can take out Taliesin, and then we have a downright jolly fifty-fifty chance of getting a wolf. Hoo-ray.

I'm going to bed now. Maybe something interesting will happen. Like the mod will just decide that the ship hits a rock and sinks and we all die. Hey, we could even have a tragic Titanic Lovers scene.

[Lalaith]

Nope, Gurthang - Firefoot was saying the opposite, she correctly pointed out that Tali must stay alive. And you seem to want to kill him...interesting.
I must go now, will be back much later this Day.

[Lalaith]

*points up*
Sorry. Too early in the morning for me. I thought at first you meant, when you said "take out Taliesin" that you meant kill him. I now see what you did mean.
But I still think you're a wolf.

[Anguirel]

Rather interesting that Gurthang makes reference to people accusing him of being Firefoot's Lover...I don't recall anyone positing anything of the kind...at least not by Day. O, Master Wolf, have you just made a slip among all your huffing and puffing...?

Neither did I realise the situation was altogether as hopeless as Gurthwolf makes out. If we lynch the lovers today, the wolves kill an innocent and win. If we lynch a wolf today...the innocent Lover will be impossible to kill by night...so the Wolves will compromise on another innocent...which leaves two wolves out of five, one passenger Lover, two innocents...okay, you're right.

Blast. We are caught between the Devil and the deep blue sea, indeed.

Well...errrr...shall we have a vote on whether we prefer a Wolf victory or a Lover victory? I'm for a Lover victory myself. Wolf wins are rather passe and indeed happen most of the time. Lover victories are once in a blue moon. And as long as the Lovers win, the village can claim a share in victory, I suppose.

Besides, the Lovers can coexist with one passenger. Coo-eee, love-birds, can I be your best man?

That said:

++GURTHANG

Even were his actions as pure and innocent as the wind-driven snow, his dramatic postures practically condemn him by themselves. His frequent "Not that it matters anymore at this stage" votes. His invocation of Jack Sparrow when his lynching was possible but not probable. His insistence on syphoning our energies into the Sauce-Firefoot duel ("Well, it looks like everyone's going to vote for one of those two *sotto voce* so I'm safe.") which you can surely see by now was a barren clash between innocents.

Gurthang's actions are often quite mild singly, but they fit together into a larger and more profound picture.

[Gurthang]

Hey! I'm winning! Err... oh, I guess that's bad, isn't it. :p


Rather interesting that Gurthang makes reference to people accusing him of being Firefoot's Lover...I don't recall anyone positing anything of the kind...at least not by Day. O, Master Wolf, have you just made a slip among all your huffing and puffing...?
Well, that deserves a :rolleyes:.



Well...errrr...shall we have a vote on whether we prefer a Wolf victory or a Lover victory? I'm for a Lover victory myself. Wolf wins are rather passe and indeed happen most of the time. Lover victories are once in a blue moon. And as long as the Lovers win, the village can claim a share in victory, I suppose.

Besides, the Lovers can coexist with one passenger. Coo-eee, love-birds, can I be your best man?I thought that they'd just kill the extra passenger. And, quite frankly my dear Anguirel, "this ship cannot be crewed by two men. You'll never make it." :D



Even were his actions as pure and innocent as the wind-driven snow, his dramatic postures practically condemn him by themselves. His frequent "Not that it matters anymore at this stage" votes. His invocation of Jack Sparrow when his lynching was possible but not probable. His insistence on syphoning our energies into the Sauce-Firefoot duel ("Well, it looks like everyone's going to vote for one of those two *sotto voce* so I'm safe.") which you can surely see by now was a barren clash between innocents.Well, as a matter of fact we don't know about Firefoot's innocence, except for her... and the other wolves if she is a wolf... or the wolvish lover if she is the ordo-lover. Oh, and the PotC quotes really make me look guilty? <insert another rolleyes smilie here>*


*Sorry, Durelin. <insert tongue smilie here>

[Durelin]

++Kath

Help me...

[Cailín]

I know it does seem unlikely and you innocents are all despairing... but in theory each party (including the Ordinary Passengers) can still win! Do not give up!

[Anguirel]

In theory. Ahem.

But if a wolf is lynched, then an innocent will die tomorrow night and then either the Lovers or the Wolves will win the next day depending on the lynching.

If an innocent is lynched the wolves will win.

If we Lovers (yes, I said that) are lynched, the wolves win.

I still say: do the crew of this ship want two patently obvious, standard-issue wolves named Gurthang and Kath to ruthlessly conquer?

Or do they want two desperate, doomed, but hopelessly in love people, who don't mean any harm but are powerless in the grip of destiny, called Anguirel and Lalaith to scrape through despite the odds stacked against them?

These are the only options left, because the Lovers will not be slain tonight unless two true wolves live and if two true wolves live then they'll have won already.

Lynch anyone but Gurthang or Kath and those two Wolves win. Lynch one of them (and to do that you must combine all your votes hence on one of the bandwagons-and I'd rather it were Gurthang) and we promise amnesty to one passenger. We don't really want to kill you anyway.

We just want to live together in happiness and peace. Won't you help us, my friends?

Amor vincit omnia

Sir Anguirel Spens, Knight and True Lover of the beauteous, chaste and peerless damoiselle Lalaith

[Lalaith]

*blushes prettily*

What he just said.

++GURTHANG

[Anguirel]

Thankyou, my beloved lady. It is now imperative that anyone seeking, for whatever reason, to avoid an outright wolvish victory today vote for Gurthang. We can worry about his accomplice Kath later.

[Firefoot]

So what happens if we lynch a wolf, and then the two remaining wolves (one lover, one not) absolutely can't make a decision? Because obviously, if they took out an ordo, the lovers would win; if they took out the lovers... well, I guess the ordos would win because we would just lynch the last wolf. No kill? Then it would be:

One wolf
One lover wolf
One lover
three ordos

So we kill the lovers, the wolf kills an ordo, and the two remaining ordos kill the wolf.

Well, the wolves don't win, as I see it. I guess it's sort of up to the wolves - do they want us afflicted ordos to win or the traitorous lovers?

And is there any way that Ang and Lalaith could be bluffing...? Gurthang and Kath aren't really the lovers - Ang and Lalaith wouldn't know the ordo lover in that case, right?

[Anguirel]

Firefoot, that strategem of yours relies on preferring the flimsy goodwill of a wolf to the intensity of true passion.

It also relies on the wolf in question preferring the triumph of the masses to the valiant gambit of we Lovers, the true underdogs.

I assure you that Lalaith is my lover. I mean, cast an eye over our Werewolfing history (and Survivor record, come to that)-we were obviously meant to be.

But in any case you, like us, need to lynch a wolf. Gurthang and Kath will resist such a move together if at all feasible so you need to go for Gurthang, who has got the more votes so far, to be safe.

[Lalaith]

It's terribly romantic really, Der Rosenkavalier meets Company of Wolves.
But we can't expect the rest of the crew to understand. Tomorrow it will be quickest on the draw, I suppose.

[Anguirel]

I don't know. I'd far rather die in the cause of Love than in the cause of filling some wolf's belly, myself...

[Firefoot]

*shrugs* Just because I haven't completely given up hope... :p

A question: the rules say, "The Lovers can only win if they survive together." Is this the same scenario as with wolves, that if the number of the rest of us equals them (i.e., 2-2), they win?

[Gurthang]

Oh, well this is fun. NOT!

Thanks, Ang. I don't know if you're really the lover or just a wolf, but you've played well. Nice setup.

Yes, everyone, listen to Ang's sweet, soothing voice. Heed his words. Let him lead you to your death. Vote for me so he can win. "Vote for me and all his wildest dreams will come true!" :p :rolleyes:

I still want to sit around, cause if you all vote for me, I want to do it to. If there's any chance I can keep Ang from winning, I want to take it. :p

[Firefoot]

still want to sit around, cause if you all vote for me, I want to do it to. If there's any chance I can keep Ang from winning, I want to take it. :p Does that mean you'd choose the villagers to win over the Lovers? *hopeful smile to Gurthang, :p to Ang* Of course... that would just mean Kath instead of Gurthang toDay, but if Gurthang is fine with that, so am I...

[Anguirel]

Thanks, Ang. I don't know if you're really the lover or just a wolf, but you've played well. Nice setup.


So I'm definitely either a lover or a wolf? No chance of me being innocent? I say. Well, Gurthang, I heartily agree, but I do deeply wonder how you know...

Maybe, just maybe, perchance, you just made yet another slip, Master Wolf. I've had enough of co-operating with you in villainy. From now on I serve the cause of True love alone.

[Anguirel]

Oh, and for the last time-this is the pretty-much-impossible task we Lovers have to achieve-

To either survive alone or with one passenger, innocent or guilty. (Who as I see it needn't necessarily die.)

[Gurthang]

I'm waiting for an answer from my people (aka Cailín) to get back to me, and then I'll tell ya'll what's up.

So, "have I ever given you a reason not to trust me? ( :rolleyes: ) I know this is difficult for you, but, do us a favor, and stay here. And try not to do anything... shtupid."

[Anguirel]

What's the question you're seeking an answer to? I posted the only terms of a possible Lover win above.

[Firefoot]

Oh yeah. I told you I wasn't a wolf. :p (*Dares any other innocent, living or dead :rolleyes: , to disagree*)

[Kath]

I have no idea whats going on here anymore, and I'm going to be gone until the deadline.

++ANG

Why not? Seems everyone else is just randomly voting :rolleyes:

[Gurthang]

Well, Cailín hasn't gotten back to me yet, but we're running low on time. So here's what's got to happen.

We lynch Kath toDay. This leaves three possibilities for toNight:

1. I am killed. This would leave the Lovers against three innocents for an easy passenger victory.

2. The Lovers are killed. This would leave three innocents left with me for, yet again, an easy passenger victory.

3. An innocent is killed. This would leave two passengers, me, and the Lovers left. This is basically the same situation as toDay, in so much as the Lovers or wolves are going to win, but it is up to the innocents to decide which team.

Now, I'm going to try to make sure that Option 2 is carried out. If I fail, than either Option 1 or, more likely, Option 3 will occur. In which case you guys are in the same boat as we thought you were in toDay.

So, Firefoot and Taliesin, shall we lynch Kath? Or you can go with me, but then it's an almost guaranteed option 3 (passengers loss).

Kath's vote just now doesn't change anything, as just my vote and one of yours can still change the outcome. As much as I'd love for you to vote Ang (pretty please? :rolleyes: ), I doubt it will happen.

Oh, and Kath, I told you so. :p

[Anguirel]

Sorry Kath. You were a cunning and skilful comrade. But Love is my Mistress and I had to obey Her. That involved ruining you.

Remember, passengers, your last flimsy chance of success dies if I die.

[Gurthang]

Sorry Kath. You were a cunning and skilful comrade. But Love is my Mistress and I had to obey Her. That involved ruining you.

Remember, passengers, your last flimsy chance of success dies if I die.
Yeah, passengers, if you believe that, then you have already lost.

Oh, and yes, I also am sorry Kath. Sorry that we all have to die so that a traitor will get his just due.


Just got word back from Cailín. She said some intersting things. Among which is that either Ang and I will both die toNight, or neither will. I can't out him without dying myself, which is very tempting. Also, if I try to kill Lalaith, no one dies. Interesting, that is.

[Firefoot]

++Kath

Works for me.

[Anguirel]

Gurthang, don't take it too personally. I had to betray you, y'know, in my position. Wouldn't be nearly so interesting an endgame if I hadn't done, I'm sure you'll agree.

But we'll leave this negotiation for Night.

[Gurthang]

Sweet.

++Kath

Thanks, Firefoot, you're an absolute doll. Just for that, you can be my (unofficial) Lover. :D ;)

"And Kath... it never would have worked between us... I'm sorry." *


*last PotC quote. I promise. :o

P.S. Ang, we will have an interesting endgame, I can assure you that.

[Firefoot]

:D

[Anguirel]

Even had I not been a wolf lover, your PotC irritations merit any means to silence them!

[Firefoot]

I rather liked them. So there. :p

[Nogrod]

Okay. Day has ended.

[Cailín]

"It is over, oh, all our troubles and journeys are past, oh," sang a mysterious voice as dusk settled over the Olc Duit-Siu.

Sitting in a wide circle, seven passengers were waiting for the final scores to be settled. The wind had turned, the sea was calm and all the secrets every individual had been hiding (except, perhaps, some of Taliesin's, who still had failed to explain his tendency to whisper kill, kill under his breath) were out in the open. It had been a long day, a treacherous day and a desperate day. Lalaith was squinting against the red setting sun, trying to soak up a little last minute tan. Anguirel was staring at her with a vague smile that did no longer go unnoticed. Gurthang and Kath had never looked quite so downcast and exchanged hateful looks, as if trying to blame the unfortunate turn of events on each other. Firefoot, Durelin and Taliesin looked about nervously, still quite unable to believe that they were calmly sitting in the company of four known villains and not doing anything about it.

It was like the calm before a storm. More accurately, in the middle of a storm.

Suddenly, Gurthang looked as he had come to a decision. He addressed the three remaining innocents. "I shall save thee," he whispered. "Trust me and you may walk away unscathed. Kill Kath. She'd never help you."

"What, who, me?" squeaked Kath, very unwolvishly. "Eurgh, men! Why am I always surrounded by men?"

"The sun shall set soon, Kath," spoke Anguirel, never leaving his eyes of his true nemesis, the Plank Operator. "You will not see it rise again."

Kath hissed as Durelin and Firefoot, who still seemed rather dazed, bound her to the railing.

"If it weren't for Lalaith, dear… but ah well, let us not dwell on these nasty things." Sir Anguirel Spens grinned evilly.

Kath struggled helplessly against her bonds, a red glint in her cunning eyes.

"Look!" said Lalaith, pointing in the direction of the horizon. "The sun is setting. Let the games begin."

---

Captain Cailín's Log

Oh, where will we sail from here?

A wolf to die,
A wolf to take vengeance,
A wolf to love,
And three unknowing passengers hoping they chose the right path.

Please stay tuned… stay silent… stay vigilant… and tomorrow you shall know whether it is a righteous wind that's blowing.




It is now Night 8. The final narration will be up tomorrow. Please refrain yourself from commenting on the game till then.

[Cailín]

Far away, west of the most western seas, the sun sets in the east.

In the red sunlight of the warm summer evening, a lone fisherman on the shores of the Island of Brizal saw an old ship approaching the small harbour. He shielded his eyes against the sun to get a better view. It had been a long time since Brizal had seen any unknown ships near its shores and it was a sign that usually did not bode well. His eyes fell upon the name of the ship: Olc duit-siu. Ill shall befall thee in the ancient tongue of the Island. A bad omen. The fisherman abandoned his post and ran to the village to warn the people.

[Cailín]

Aboard the same ship, tranquillity lingered. Kath was still bound to the railing and Firefoot and Durelin were standing before her, unsure how to proceed. Firefoot, especially, was beyond the state of having a sense of foreboding. Guiltily, she avoided the gaze of her fellow passengers: after all, it was she who had decided the fate of the ship would be in the hands of Gurthang, self-proclaimed leader of the werewolf pack. As she eyed the plank operator, who was casually observing the tops of his fingers while furtively glancing at Anguirel every once in a while, she doubted him again.

If there were any chance of surviving, Gurthang would take it.

The burning sun sank beneath the horizon, and a change seemed to grab hold of the villains of the ship. Lalaith sat up a little straighter.

"Kill her, now," said Gurthang to the passengers, gesturing at Kath, who had now bared her teeth and raised her head up to the grey-blue sky.

"You are so harsh," the wolf-girl sulked. "Even more treacherous than that wimp Sir Anguirel."

"You'd better do as he says," said Anguirel, who had become rather philosophical about his chances. "Lest you see love survive after all."

Taliesin stepped forward and Durelin and Firefoot looked at each other. "All right," said the ninja.

She reached for a weapon and in that instant, the almost peaceful picture shattered.

A blue moon swept out from under the waves and the wolf-men and girl turned their heads towards it at the exact same moment, as if they were all part of a perfectly timed dance. Lalaith let out a small shriek of excitement. Before the eyes of the shivering passengers, Anguirel, Gurthang and Kath began to transform. It was unlike they imagined, less painful, more fluid, more graceful even, if that could be said of human wolves. Their coats were sleek, varying from brownish red to a cold, silvery grey and their eyes were red and yellow-rimmed, full of ferocity and yet sparkling with inhuman intelligence.

"Aren't they beautiful?" sighed Lalaith.

"Excuse me if I disagree," said Durelin. "I never found fangs and claws terribly attractive."

Gurthang, ignoring Kath and the edible passengers, approached Sir Anguirel Spens with a wolvish grin. "Are you ready to settle the score, old friend?"

"Ladies first," replied Anguirel in a hollow voice. They turned to Durelin and Firefoot.

"What…?" stammered Firefoot. "You promised!"

"Of course. Hide," snarled Gurthang the wolf to the innocent ladies, who only too gladly obeyed. Lalaith prepared to follow them, but found herself face to face with Gurthang.

"Not so fast, milady," he growled. "You chose a different path…"

"Wait!" said a low voice behind him. Gurthang turned away from his prey momentarily, and saw Taliesin, who had lingered behind as Durelin and Firefoot had crawled into the Captain's cabin. "The wolf-girl first. You made a deal. She goes."

"Brave words for a tiny human," said Gurthang.

"Believe me," grinned Taliesin. "I have done more evil than you will ever do, and I need neither fur nor fangs to do it."

"Why, how unfair," said Gurthang. "You have done more evil… and yet when good prevails, you plan to walk away unscathed?"

"That is life," replied Taliesin. "It never is black and white."

Anguirel, Kath and Gurthang exchanged looks. "Well, a promise is a promise," said Gurthang eventually. "And I chose to help the righteous. Unfortunately for our washed up criminal… that description does not seem to include him."

Taliesin took a quick step backwards.

"Never let it be said that I do not take care of my old comrades…," said Gurthang. He rushed at Kath, who was considerably smaller than the other two, and raised her high above him in the air. With a howl, he threw the wolf-girl overboard. Gurthang now turned to Taliesin, who had quickly scurried away and tried to hide behind the wheel. It was hopeless. An instant later, Taliesin had joined Kath in the moonlit water: for the second time in his life abandoned to the mercy of the waves… and the mercy of a dying werewolf.

"I hope she will enjoy her final meal…," Gurthang said pensively, observing Kath. "Now I shall take mine…"

[Cailín]

Gurthang turned away from the sea to find Lalaith and Anguirel had fled. He was not worried. He had already won. He circled the deck, sneaked through the galley, the Captain's cabin… and yet he found no trace of the pair. Out on the deck again, he stared up to the sky, knowing that sooner or later Lalaith and Sir Anguirel would give themselves away, as they had done before. High up in the sky, Gurthang suddenly noted a flurry of movement in the crow's nest - the final place aboard that he had not searched. With a sigh, he climbed up the main mast and as soon as he had reached the top and jumped into the tub, he found himself facing Anguirel once more.

"We are not yet finished," said Gurthang dramatically. "I want the woman."

"Well, you cannot have her," replied Anguirel. "She chose me."

Gurthang did not bother with an answer and launched himself at the football widow. Sir Anguirel growled and jumped between the two, lashing at Gurthang.

"See," said Lalaith, as she was hiding behind Anguirel's back, just out of Gurthang's reach. "I told you. I told you what would happen if you kept hanging out with those furry friends of yours. And you are always: no Lal, nothing important, just having a few laughs and howls. Well, see who was right now, huh?'

"Please, milady, this is not the time," said Sir Anguirel Spens, slightly annoyed. "As you can see, I am quite preoccupied with heroically saving your life."

"And what is the time, then?" Lalaith asked. "When I'm dead and devoured in a few minutes?"

"A little faith, milady," said Anguirel. "After all, love conquers all."

"You cannot promise me that!" cried Lalaith. "Look at him! He looks way stronger than you. anyway. Maybe I chose the wrong wolf."

"Enough, woman," yelled Anguirel, turning on his beloved. In the second Anguirel turned his back towards Gurthang, the Plank Operator-wolf jumped up and reached for Lalaith's throat. It was over in one fatal blink of the eye. Lalaith's head fell far, hit the floor below with a sickening crack and rolled to the other side of the deck. The body of the fair football widow crumpled and sagged to the bottom of the tub.

Anguirel stood motionless. Then he threw his head up to the moon and howled the longest, most painful howl the seas and the world had ever heard.

"All's well that ends well," spoke Gurthang, his red eyes sparkling.

[Cailín]

Without thinking, Anguirel grabbed hold of Gurthang and in a flurry of fangs and flying hair, snapping teeth and poetic, Shakespearian insults they tumbled downwards together. Miraculously, both survived the fall and lie panting next to each other. Firefoot and Durelin, who had hurried out of the cabin at the noise, stood mortified on the deck, gazing at the wolves and poor Lalaith's severed head.

“Look! A light! Land, to starboard! We are saved!” cried Firefoot suddenly.

Once more, the wolves went at each other. They rolled over the deck, no longer caring about who would live or die, as long as they caused each other the most pain.

As the dust cleared and the scene died out, Firefoot and Durelin approached closer. In a corner of the ship Gurthang lay motionless against the railing. One of his eyes was scratched out and his head lolled to the side in a rather disturbing way. The pale silver wolf who had once been Anguirel was lying crumpled up in the middle of the deck, his eyes raised to the heaven where he imagined his love, Lalaith. His tail was waving slightly back and forth in the wind, as if still dancing to that secret tune which had moved the two unlikely lovers for such a long time. It was all over now. No more stars in their eyes, no more songs in their head.

And it was all right.

“Well,” said Durelin, after both women had sat in silence for a while. “Any chance you know anything about navigation, Footie?”

--The End--

[Cailín]

It was a cool summer breeze that blew the Olc duit-siu to the shores of the Island of Brizal. The gathered villagers walked up to the beach, eyeing the ship with some surprise and mild curiosity. It was not the first time a mysterious ghost ship had sailed up to their homes. Actually, the island had once been known for being continuously plagued by lost adventurers and treasure hunters.

A few brave men dared to venture aboard, looking, as always, for forgotten treasure the ship might have carried. They searched the deck, the galley and yet found nothing, not even evidence the ship was actually ever occupied at all. Finally they opened the door to the Captain's cabin and entered. There was nothing to see: the covers were neatly folded and the floor seemed freshly cleaned. However, lying casually forgotten on the floor, there was Captain Cailín's log, unfinished. The leader of the group picked up the log and started reading aloud at Day 1. As he reached the third entry, he stammered and gestured to his fellows.

"We must leave. Immediately. The ship's cursed." They stormed back on the deck and to their great surprise and shock they saw they were no longer near the save harbour of home. Instead, miles and miles of water seemed to be surrounding them. Quickly, the leader opened the log again and read the final entries:




Captain Cailín's log

*A night can have so many colours. A story can have so many endings. Oh, to think a werewolf cannot love, it is folly. Villains love more, love deeper, love longer than heroes. They have nothing else. They need someone to dance with. To talk to. It is just that need that makes them vulnerable.

*With friends like these, who needs enemies?

*With enemies like these, who needs friends?

*Love… the problem to all our solutions. The question to all our answers.

The final entry seemed to be scribbled down hastily, in the handwriting of an overly excited young woman. The ink was fresh and through the words a radiant smile was almost visible.

Welcome aboard! Have a safe journey, and remember, don't let the candles burn out.

Signed,

Captain Cailín

"Ai no, ai no," cried one of the new passengers. "Ill shall befall us!"




Surprisingly and possibly slightly undeserved: PASSENGERS WIN! :)

[The Saucepan Man]

Fascinating endgame there. I was waiting with baited breath ... :)

Surprisingly and possibly slightly undeserved: PASSENGERS WIN!Hooray! Well done passengers. Or perhaps I should say, thanks Anguirel and Lalaith. :D It's probably fair to say that the victory was undeserved, so we should dedicate it to the Lovers, both of whom played superbly. It was clear, towards the end, that the Lovers would play a major role in the outcome, one way or the other, which is why I implored you to help us kill a Wolf (to which I note, with the benefit of hindsight, you both responded, although no doubt you had worked it out for yourselves).

Not entirely satisfied with my own performance, for which I apologise. Except for the major bout of analysis that I did following Rune's lynching, I didn't really have as much time as I would have liked to devote to the game. Still, I'm glad that I was not totally off beam, concerning Kath and Gurthang at least, although I must humbly apologise to Holby and Firefoot. What can I say? You both looked exceedingly Wolfish to me. :rolleyes: And, as I said, I am an expert at mistaking Seers for Wolves. As for Ang and Lal, well I hardly suspected you at all, although I do seem to recall making an aisde comment that I found the idea of you two possibly being the Lovers rather amusing.

And I must admonish all those who voted for me on the Day I was lynched for kicking a man when he was down. Having suffered the pain an anguish of the England v Portugal game and ensuing penalty shoot-out, I logged on to find myself cruelly cut down in my prime.

I was relieved, in a way, to be lynched, as the game was becoming incredibly frustrating and, in any event, I would not have been able to contribute much the following day. And there is a kind of grim satisfaction being lynched as an innocent and proving everyone who doubted you wrong. Althiugh I would have loved to have been there for the endgame ...

[The Saucepan Man]

And where are my manners? I should of course thank Cailín and Noggie for a thoroughly compelling game which, despite its frustrations, was nevertheless exceedingly enjoyable. Wonderful narractives - I loved the Captain's Log in particular. And it was great to see the Lovers roles work out so well.

Gurthang - I knew it! I should have stuck by my convictions. Although you can be darn convincing when pleading your innocence.

And Kath - you shall forthwith be know as the expert in "damning analysis". :D

More later, when I have more time.

[Lalaith]

Saucie, you do yourself no justice. Those analyses of yours were pure genius: I sent Ang a PM calling you something quite rude, after you fingered us both as Lovers. I just wish you hadn't kept shifting your suspect list around, we had been desperate to kill Gurth for ages and it was terribly frustrating when you moved your sights off him.
Cailin and Nogrod, thank you for truly wonderful modding, and thank you Ang, no lady could have asked for a more cunning, amusing and gallant Lover.

Although I am slightly perturbed that I have, in the final narration, been portrayed as more fishwife shrew than football widow...I really must work on my WW image...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Good game everybody, save Anguirel and Lalaith of course. I shall forever curse your names.

Thank you Cailin and Nogrod for a good game with facinating narrations.

I must say that I feard that Gurthang and Kath would be lynched in the wake of my death and was much supprised when I looked at the thread some days after my death and found that they were both still alive. I was really impressed with my fellow wolves, again save Anguriel :p . I wished I could have put in a better performance for you guys.

It was a positive game in more than one way for me, as it was the first time survived longer than Day 2 as a wolf/hero. :)

(I will return with more thoughts, but must leave now)

[The Saucepan Man]

I just wish you hadn't kept shifting your suspect list around, we had been desperate to kill Gurth for ages and it was terribly frustrating when you moved your sights off him. Well, thats the way it always goes, isn't it? One settles on a likely Wolf and then begins to doubt one's own instincts. Towards the end of the game, I decided that I should make my mind up and risk being horrendously and humiliatingly wrong. Unfortunately, I chose to do so at the point at which I had settled on Firefoot as my most likely Wolf. :rolleyes:

I really regretted voting so early that day as I did later decide that Kath was the more likely Wolf (following her analysis of me) - for which Gurth labelled me as flippy-floppy. :rolleyes:

Gurth was right, though, when he said that only an innocent would have appealed to the Lovers. I am somewhat annoyed that the point got rather lost in the hurly-burly of my lynching.

Still, we passengers really did ourselves no great favours all round. The lynchings of Nilp, morm and Glirdan were all needless, really.

[Holbytlass]

I shall never feel right on a ship again. Superb narration Cailin and Nogrod, thank you.

No need for apologies, Saucie, it was obvious why I looked wolvish. You said something in the beginning about me being "noncommital" and I'm screaming YES!! YES! because I HAVE to be! It was hard because anything I would have tried to rebuttal would look wolvish. And it is a dangerous place to be your number one suspect.

Henceforth, I shall automatically suspect anyone who waits till the last possible minute to vote in a tie that is not part of that tie cough*Gurthang*cough! Especially with the seer alive. Ooh, that was so nervewracking!!
But the fatal blow was my misunderstanding of the tied rule. I thought in a tie, the person to recieve the first vote at all was to be lynched not the person to get to the tied number first, so when I saw Mormegil then me get 3 votes I thought I was the goner since I was initially voted for before him. *Doh!!*

But it actually worked out because in RL, the day after I read my death thunderstorms wiped out my phone for 5 days and I'm on stupid dial-up!

[Lalaith]

Holby, my heart went out to you. Of course, in this game I was desperate to see the Seer die quickly, but I've just recently been there with the Seer-lynching thing and it is *so* frustrating.
Ang and I wondered, given what happened in the narration, did you dream of one of us the night you died?

[Holbytlass]

No, I dreamt of Durelin. Knowing I was a goner I was curious about her.

Last game I played of which I was the seer, I didn't have a chance to test my plan of dreaming of newbies/low talkers. Usually, loud/experienced players get killed/lynched first and the village is left with the unknowns or those who might not post alot so I wanted to work my way backwards. I started with Taliesin, Findeasea and Caranlondien because I haven't had the pleasure of playing or knowing them. It was very cool that even though I had to reveal myself all three of my dreams were still alive.

[Anguirel]

Holby, I think we can call you with confidence the Seeress Superior of the Downs...

Ah, so close! For hours yesterday I was tantalised by the delusion that Love could indeed pull through. Still, at least I dragged my hairy pals down with me...

Undoubtedly this is the game I've enjoyed most so far. I think we Lovers can be fairly pleased with ourselves in defeat-a Wolf was never hung but when we had engineered it.

Maddeningly, I think had I named Gurthang but not Kath, pretending she was innocent, we would have been victorious. Wise after the event. Urgh.

I couldn't have had a more sympathetic, effective and, yes, peerless helpmeet...

[JennyHallu]

Village, I frankly think I did a horrible job as a Hunter. I was nervous and unsubtle, and I didn't even pay attention to my own analysis...would that I had hunted Rune!

Sorry Formy.

[Cailín]

Wow. That is it then. (Except for that one tiny narration I still have to post).

Well, I very much enjoyed modding -though I wish I had done it at a more convenient time for me. I was simply too stubborn to put it off. I think we all wrote a lovely story together and I am very happy with how things turned out. You are all such great players. Really, it's true.

Saucepan Man, don't be so modest. I once PMed Nogrod about how shockingly right you were and how you had to die in the most cruel fashion for it. I admit, I favoured the Lovers and Wolves myself -I think all moderators do- but you were excellent, as always.

Holbytlass, you were a great Seer, no matter what you think. Your three known innocents came at a crucial time and I think that above all doomed the wolves. I had no idea why Sauce kept targetting you and wanted to throw big things at him during those first few days.

Gurthang, Kath, you must be frustrated and possibly furious with me for putting you through a game like this. You both did an excellent job and made me a very proud Moddess. Special thanks to Kath for giving that hint of inspiration I needed when I was writing up Sauce's death.

Finally, Anguirel and Lalaith… you more than lived up to my expectations and indeed your love seems meant to be. Contrary to popular opinion, none of the passengers was dream-teamed and Anguirel and Lalaith came out of a randomizer I downloaded to ensure I wouldn't cheat. You were amazing and I wish to thank you for being so amusing and loveable.

And of course, Nogrod. Thanks for being around all the time, for writing up the last-minute deaths of Findeasea, Caranlondien and tgwbs and for all your help during the game. You were the best co-mod a girl could wish for.

Some info for those who care:

JennyHallu hunted Anguirel and Formendacil
Before she died, Holbytlass dreamt of Taliesin, Findeasea, Caranlondien and Durelin.
Taliesin died during the final narration because he failed to show up at all the Day before.
I think I got about 20 different PMs from the wolves and the lovers asking something about the rules or complaining about their peers.

A Lovers game is much more complex than I thought before I started it. Despite all that, I think this game worked out fairly well.

As per Holby's request:



Captain Cailín's Log, the lost final page


~The dead ~
Nogrod – sub-mod, ripped into pieces of flesh and bones by the werewolves on Night1
Cailín – mod, forced to walk the plank at the end of Night1/ the beginning of Day1
Nilpaurion Felagund – ranger, lynched himself at the end of Day1
Eomer of the Rohirrim – ordinary passenger, replaced the main topmast during Night2
Lhunardawen - ordinary passenger, overcame her seasickness by force at the end of Day2.
JennyHallu - Hunter
Formendacil - ordinary passenger
Mormegil - ordinary passenger, found fault in the ship's structure at the end of Day3
Holbytlass - Seer, killed by the wolves during Night 4
Diamond18 - ordinary passenger, brutally devoured by Screaming Eels
Rune Son of Bjarne - Wolf, pierced by Durelin's dagger at the end of Day 4
Findëasëa - ordinary passenger, ripped in pieces in shower during Night5
Glirdan - ordinary passenger, struck down by liquor at the end of Day 5
Caranlondien – ordinary passenger, poured and minced into a barrell of rum during Night6
Saucepan Man – ordinary passenger, attacked and subsequently boiled together with Goosey Gander at the end of Day 6
Friedrich Engels (the guy who be short) - ordinary passenger, drowned while revolving around the ship's keel during Night7
Kath - Wolf, cast overboard at the end of Day 7
Taliesin - ordinary passenger, fed to Kath at the end of Day 7
Lalaith - ordinary lover, beheaded by Gurthang at the end of Day 7
Sir Anguirel Spens - wolf lover, died duelling Gurthang at the end of Day 7
Gurthang - wolf, died duelling Anguirel at the end of Day 7

~The living ~
Durelin -- ordinary passenger
Firefoot -- ordinary passenger

[The Saucepan Man]

No need for apologies, Saucie, it was obvious why I looked wolvish. You said something in the beginning about me being "noncommital" and I'm screaming YES!! YES! because I HAVE to be!I suppose that's why always end up thinking that the Seer is a Wolf. I detect something not quite n-ordo-like) in their posts, but then completely misinterpret it. I must try to be alive to that in the future, although I told myself that when I initiated the lynching of a Seerish Shelob in only my second game ... :rolleyes:

Actually, I do recall pondering whether you might be the Seer at some point, Holby, but dismissed on the basis that it would be too coincidental, given that you had already been a Seer twice before (and once when I was a Wolf). Not logical, admittedly, but influential on my thinking nevertheless.

And here am I, never been a Seer (or a Ranger, for that matter). :(

Henceforth, I shall automatically suspect anyone who waits till the last possible minute to vote in a tie that is not part of that tie cough*Gurthang*cough!There was an element in my thinking that Gurthang's actions were, at times, so obviously Wolvish that he was being set up ... :rolleyes:

It was a positive game in more than one way for me, as it was the first time survived longer than Day 2 as a wolf/hero.I thought you played very well. I had you down on my likely innocent list until the day you were lynched - and only began to suspect you because of that first post you made that day, which somehow set of little alarms in my head.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I was actually very suprised when I learnt that I lived after we had killed you (Jenny), I was sure that it was me who was to be killed. We discussed it over, the others was not quite so sure you would do that and I decidet it was worth taking the risk.

[Nogrod]

Great game people!

And especially you lovers! Ang and Lalaith, I would like to call you the moral victors...

The whole wolf-trio worked well - and in the end at least enjoyably to the reader. :p

And Spm is too modest with himself: your analysis were just superb. Cailín in fact suggested whether you should be blasted out with a mod-fire before you ruin the game before it has even taken off. :D

Holby's Seer-tactics were admirable. It really seems wise to pick others than loudmouths, for those get killed quite early on anyway more usual than not.

And last but not least: thanks to Cailín for some really fun and original narrations (the last ones were especially great!), and surely of taking me on board and giving me some chances to actually be involved in the game.

It was great fun, once again!

[The Saucepan Man]

Saucepan Man – ordinary passenger, attacked and subsequently boiled together with Goosey Gander at the end of Day 6I should have mentioned it, but my intention was that Goosey Gander would serve as a hearty meal the second night. He was never meant to survive past the role play phase. :D

[mormegil]

Okay, I may die and I humbly request that all innocents look at the following very closely

Firefoot
Gurthang
Rune
TGWBS
among others



The only wolf I never suspected was Kath, which is extremely odd as I always tend to suspect her. Well played all. I really must get over Glirdan I seem to perpertually suspect him and have aided in his demise in two games recently, both innocent :rolleyes: . Also it was my single-eyed approach to Glirdan that made me lower my guard on Anguirel whom I truly suspected for quite some time. However, credit must be given to him for lowering my suspicion of him. Well played.

[Holbytlass]

Holby, I think we can call you with confidence the Seeress Superior of the Downs...
If I shave it down a couple characters that can be my Personal Title!
Actually, I do recall pondering whether you might be the Seer at some point, Holby, but dismissed on the basis that it would be too coincidental, given that you had already been a Seer twice before (and once when I was a Wolf).Actually, three times before. You're not looking at your grimoire very carefully ;) .

You wolves and lovers are going to post your nightly PM's? And you hunter and ranger are going to post your daily PM's?

[Kath]

And Kath - you shall forthwith be know as the expert in "damning analysis". :D
*bows* Thank you Sauce, but you weren't so shoddy yourself. Many of my friends will testify to the fact that I was terrified of you for two Days straight after I think you pegged all three of us.

Ang - you join Lhuna amongst the ranks of traitors. Why is it I always get killed by the Lovers :rolleyes: All I can say is that I'm glad the villagers won in the end, I don't think I could have stood it if the Lovers had been victorious.

Cailin, Nogrod, thanks for some fantastic death scenes, and you're quite welcome for the inspiration Cailin!

I can post the wolves PMs if you like, though since Gurthang was PMing Ang behind my back for a while he may have more than I do.

[Anguirel]

I'm afraid I was getting so many PMs and was living in such various locations that I was unable to keep them...

[Firefoot]

Oft evil will shall evil mar...

We as innocents did rather pathetically, I'd say. Only one wolf without help... oh boy.

So Durelin... me and you, huh? Two people who have been living on the tops of each others' suspect lists since about Day 3... ;)

Great job to everyone, especially to the wolves and lovers - and our brilliant Captain Cailin and Nogrod. I was right about you Lalaith. I just didn't pursue it. Shame. You know, I swear, the night before the last Day began, I had a dream that you were on the evil side. Eerie.

I thought just about every day that I was going to be lynched... and break my perfect record of never being lynched as an innocent.

[Lalaith]

Publish private amatory correspondence! Really, what sort of hussy do you take me for?

Actually, I could probably cobble something together but it would take a lot of editing, although we probably PMed less on average than we did as Nightingale and Hawk (given that we didn't have to speculate on wolvish identity etc), two and a half weeks' worth of PMs means quite a substantial amount of accumulated material.

[Caranlondien]

Excellent game, everyone! I agree that you Lovers deserve the "moral victory" title... I never would have guessed it was you two. All the villains did well. If only I had followed through when I was suspicious of Kath and Gurthang. :rolleyes:

I have to say I was glad SpM turned out not to be a wolf, even after I saw the village had lynched him; I was right about something! That might be a first. :D

Cailín, this was a great game. I hope we'll see you modding again in the future! Nogrod, thanks for sub-modding. My death was nice and gory. :D

[Glirdan]

I really must get over Glirdan I seem to perpertually suspect him and have aided in his demise in two games recently, both innocent .

You should just live with the fact that I am always this confusing. :p Also, if I seemed a little more confusing this game, it's because it's summer break and my brain is fried right now. :rolleyes:

Spm + Durelin - I could have sworn you two were the Lovers. There was just a little too much there that proved (to me anyway) that you were the Lovers. Good game. Durelin, congrats on making it to the end.

Lalaith + Ang - You guys did a really good job (in my eyes anyway. I think I was preoccupied with other people to notice you guys much) at being the Lovers.

Gurthang - It was only after I died that I started to suspect dirty work on your part. Good job!

Holby, Jenny and Nilp - Nilp, never suspected you at all. It would have been nice if you could have been kept around a little longer. That goes for all three of you. We could really have used your expertise. Too bad though. Great job while you were around.

Kath - Even though you condemned me to death (well, had a lead part in it with your analyses), I must congratulate you on a job well done. So, good job!

Cailin and Noggie - Excellent narrations. Talk about keeping someone in suspense! :D

Everyone else - it was great to play with you all again. Can't wait to play in another game with you. However, that probably won't be for quite some time. After I mod my next WWJ game, I'm taking a looooooong break. So, have fun guys!

[the guy who be short]

That was exciting, wasn't it?
And SpM, you were indeed brilliant. I based my analyses on yours. I have no idea why you were lynched that day, but it was a very good thing I was killed thereafter. I was convinced of Firefoot's guilt as well as Kath's and Gurthang's. Sorry, Firefoot!

Anguirel and Lal - No clue. I thought you were both innocents.

On that last Day of mine, when I voted Firefoot but suspected Kath more - I thought it was quite clear. I suspected Firefoot, and as the village was in a pretty tight situation, it made sense to ally myself to SpM, who had already voted, and attempt to seal Firefoot's death. We could go progress to Kath and Gurthang the next two days.

Terribly good fun. :D And sorry about being so very quiet. One reason was a life overload, with weddings, University open days, Prefect meetings and starting clubs galore. Another was "Werewolf apathy" - after only one game. I didn't intend to play in this game because I knew I'd be busy, but felt I should help Cailin out to balance genders.

Man of the Match: Anguirel. Can't believe you were a wolfy.

Runner up: SpM. Wonderful analyses, and very accurate, save on Firefoot.

[Lalaith]

Man of the Match: Anguirel

*proudly* Yes, he was splendid, wasn't he. As the ord lover, I just had to keep my head down and look useful but not too clever. The Wolf Lover has a much harder job, s/he has to bluff both the village and the wolves.
It wasn't really planned that way, but going for Gurthang blatantly proved a rather good move. It meant that even when the wolves knew who we were, the trail led straight back to Gurth and so they couldn't kill us so easily.

[Firefoot]

Out of curiosity - Lalaith, how much did you know? Did Ang tell you anything?

[Lalaith]

Hehe. At first, Ang didn't want to tell me who his lupine chums were, as he thought it might impair my play...but with a little gentle persuasion... ;)
.I knew before start of play.
He kept me up to speed (I assume) with wolvish plans, who was to be killed and so on, but he certainly didn't pass any PMs on to me or anything like that. He is a wolf of honour.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It took me so long to figure out just what on Middle-eath happened there. I think I understand now...

Anguirel, from Day One you were just hilarious.

Everyone else: good game! And nice modding from Cailín and Nogrod.

[Durelin]

Whoa...I lived? :eek: :D

Amazing game, everyone - especially Ang and Lalaith of course.

And yes, rather funny that we survived together, 'Footie.' :p

[Gurthang]

You wolves and lovers are going to post your nightly PM's?
:eek: You know not what you are asking. I kept all the PM's, which came to a grand total (excluding the last Night) of: 90. Me - 31(one sent just to Ang), Ang - 24, Kath - 20, Rune - 15

First off, I feel like I played rather badly. Maybe it was the time crunch, but I was so suspicious, I still don't see how I ever survived so long. Not my worst game, but easily my second worst. I really wish my first time as a wolf would have been better.

Now, Kath, I'm really sorry. For killing you that last Day and for thinking you were the Lover. Since nobody else knows, I was so sure during Night 6 that Kath and Saucepan were the Lovers that I sent a PM (only one) to Ang telling him so. I'm sort of embarassed about that now, considering that I sent it to the real Lover.

Ang, very well played. I should have know that you were the Lover when your PM box kept filling up. :p The thought crossed my mind, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions. As soon as you tried to kill me I knew you were the Lover. Unfortunately, you were able to convince Kath that we should not kill Lalaith. I was very unhappy throughout that entire Night. I argued everything perfectly, but in the end you still beat me down. That's what made me so mad, I knew the truth, but there was nothing I could do about it.

I think it's rather interesting that Jenny chose Anguirel the first Night. I knew she was the Hunter from her all-caps plea to save Nilp. If we had killed Jenny that first kill, the Lovers never would have been a factor. But someone *coughAngcough* wanted to kill Eomer instead. Funny how that all works out.

Oh, and I was waiting the entire time to say the line about "this ship cannot be crewed by two men." It didn't fit so well where I finally put it, but it works. I had a lot of fun with the PotC quotes. (II comes out Friday! :D)

Anyway, spectacular game. High on the charts for me.

[Lalaith]

But someone *coughAngcough* wanted to kill Eomer instead. Funny how that all works out.

Yes sorry about that. We thought he was the Seer, you see.

Which reminds me, Gurth, I must tell you there was a bit of confusion on my part about your biblical reference. I'm an old-fashioned King James sort of girl, and in that bible the verse has "see through a glass, darkly": so I thought you were dropping Seer hints, not Lover hints. There you go.

[Lhunardawen]

Ang - you join Lhuna amongst the ranks of traitors. Why is it I always get killed by the Lovers All I can say is that I'm glad the villagers won in the end, I don't think I could have stood it if the Lovers had been victorious.
Oh come now, Kath...there must be something you're doing against the power of Love. :D

Thanks, Ang and Lalaith, for showing me that the Lovers can actually survive until the game end. But anyways, I still look forward to the first "Lovers win!" game...

Also, too bad Firefoot had to be an ordo. :p

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Uh, what happened?

Every time an experienced player attacks my DAY 1 style, they always turn out to be weird baddies. There was Honkin' Sauce on Di's Junior game, and now Ang turns out to be a Lover. He was screaming 'wolf' to me by DAY 1's end, yes, but Lover? :confused:

Ah, well, another excellently useless performance from the three-time self-lynching champion. :D

Kudos to the Werewolves.

A standing ovation for the Lovers.

Good luck to the Passenger--they wouldn't have won without it. :p

Great modding job, Cailín and Nogrod!

[The Saucepan Man]

Actually, three times before. You're not looking at your grimoire very carefully ...Yes, I saw that after I had posted. 4 times a Seer! What's going on? Indeed, you have only been an ordo in about a quarter of your games, you lucky thing ...

For those of you calling on me not to be so modest, I accept that my analysis following Rune's death was breathtaking in its brilliance. ;)

Problem is, it was the only analysis that I really had a chance to do, and even then I managed to almost completely misapply it. So it is not so much modesty as deserved self-criticism. :rolleyes:

I am, at least, glad that I decided to trust Glirdan, TGWBS and Durelin (although a game where Durelin and I were not at each others' throats was somewhat disconcerting). Not so glad that I decided to trust Lal ...

Kath, I mean it when I label you the Mistress of Damning Analysis. Your analysis of Glirdan was a masterpiece of painting him in the worst light possible, while sounding entirely reasonable, and was probably what sealed his fate. And your analysis of me, while less aggressive in its accusations (most probably because of what I had said earlier in the Day) was wonderfully subtle in suggesting my (non-existent) Wolfishness. Again, it seems to have played a major pat in my downfall. I could have responded to it in detail, but alas the England v Portugal match was calling. Extremely skillful (and productive) work, though.

Mind you, Diamond's analysis of me was a pretty good hatchet job too, and she was innocent. Just goes to show that you can use practically anything a player says to paint them a Wolf if (as a Wolf) you want to or if (as an innocent) you believe them to be Wolfish. Then again, I already knew that from my own time as a Wolf. ;)

We as innocents did rather pathetically, I'd say.Frustratingly, we were all pretty much on the right track as far as Gurthang was concerned, and yet always seemed to find supposedly better (and decidedly more innocent) suspects to hang at the end of the day. Which is largely down to Gurth's own efforts, given that most (if not all) of his votes came from those who knew him to be a Wolf. So less of the modesty from you, Plankmeister. You done well, m'boy.

You should just live with the fact that I am always this confusing.Don't I just know it! And that is precisely why I thought you most likely innocent. Although I do have a proverbial bone to pick with you. Your plaintiff cry for me to be lynched as you were yourself led to the gallows was most disturbing ...

Finally, one more bone to pick - with those who labelled me (and, indeed, Eomer) as far too dangerous to be allowed to live in case we were Wolves and/or who pedalled the oft-repeated theory that I become more suspicious the longer I live. It hardly gives me much of a chance as an innocent, does it ...?

[Glirdan]

Don't I just know it! And that is precisely why I thought you most likely innocent. Although I do have a proverbial bone to pick with you. Your plaintiff cry for me to be lynched as you were yourself led to the gallows was most disturbing ...(Saucy)

Well, at least someone realizes it. :rolleyes: As for me crying for you to be lynched, it's just that I really thought you and Dureling were the Lovers. The fact that neither of you voted for each other and that you were defending her through the entire game bugged me. Also, I still didn't quite trust you, so, as a parting shot and advice to these bumbling bafoons (who, ironically, ended up winning :rolleyes: ), I told them to be rid of you. So, for that, I'm sorry.

[The Saucepan Man]

The fact that neither of you voted for each other and that you were defending her through the entire game bugged me.Which rather excludes the possibility that I might actually have thought her innocent ... :rolleyes: ;)

[mormegil]

SpM, I must say that I really enjoyed your first day it was quite a change for you. It's something I've been trying to accomplish: A change in style of play. It draws a lot of suspicion but it's rather fun.

Also great analysis.

[Holbytlass]

You know not what you are asking. I kept all the PM's, which came to a grand total (excluding the last Night) of: 90. Me - 31(one sent just to Ang), Ang - 24, Kath - 20, Rune - 15
Okay, okay, point taken- a summary then of why ya'll killed when ya did.

[Lalaith]

I really think I also need to offer congratulations to Findëasëa - and apologies.

She was absolutely spot on with all her suspicions, really impressive reasoning. My horribly patronising showboating about empiricism and so on, was just an attempt at distraction. And on her birthday too. I felt really mean.

Of course the joke was really on me because my argument was nonsense, all my reasoning was entirely a priori, I knew who the wolves were.

[The Saucepan Man]

SpM, I must say that I really enjoyed your first day it was quite a change for you. It's something I've been trying to accomplish: A change in style of play. It draws a lot of suspicion but it's rather fun.Thanks. :) Although it was not so much a change in style as a bit of in character fun gradually fading into my old analytical self. I am not sure that it's possible for me to change style as such since, when I become absorbed in the game, I find myself doing and typing much the same as I always do, especially when time is tight and I am thinking more about getting my thoughts out than as to the style in which they are presented.

I would actually like to be able to contribute as much, while actually typing a lot less. Unfortunately, I don't think that's possible for me ... :rolleyes:

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The Seer? I'm never the Seer, not once in about a million Werewolf games.

I can see why you would think that, though. Refusing to vote for Nilp when I was in trouble might have suggested that; but really, the Nilp lynching got the game off to a ridiculous start. He just wants to be loved! :D

So both of my slaves turned out to be treacherous creatures of the night. I regret not whipping them enough, now...

[Kath]

Kath, I mean it when I label you the Mistress of Damning Analysis. Your analysis of Glirdan was a masterpiece of painting him in the worst light possible, while sounding entirely reasonable, and was probably what sealed his fate.
That's why I rarely do them when innocent. I have a bad habit of sounding sure of myself and getting people alongside, and almost always get an innocent lynched.

I could have responded to it in detail, but alas the England v Portugal match was calling.
Why do you think I posted it when I did :p

Now, someone asked about the kills, let's see:
Night 1 was Cailin and Noggie of course - we had a chat about how we were going to act and whether we should concentrate on the Lovers early on (oh that we had!). We also considered how early we should kill Sauce and morm due to their threat-level. We decided how we would pick who was to be killed each Night (whether by vote or consensus).

Night 2 - we killed Eomer, mostly because Ang convinced us, well, me, Gurthang never believed it, that he was the Seer. It was a choice between him and Jenny. We also spoke about timezone issues as we were trying to work out when we'd have to make a decision by. We also discussed how Rune would act the next Day, as he was worried he'd be under a lot of suspicion.

Night 3 - we killed Jenny, sure that she was pretty unlikely to take any of us with her, though there was some worry over Rune. We also considered morm as possible Seer but in the end decided that was unlikely.

Night 4 - we killed Holby, obvious really. We also talked about when we would kill Sauce, it was planned to happen after we'd killed two of the innocent, which was the way it went I think though the villagers helpfully did it for us.

Night 5 - we killed Fin, as revenge for Rune, really no other reason. She was one of the three innocents, and Caran had no suspicion of any of us so we thought it would be fine to leave her alive. We considered Tali but thought it would be worth keeping him as he was going after Sauce.

Night 6 - we killed Caran. This was the Night Gurthang decided I was the Lover due to a comment of mine saying we shouldn't kill Sauce because he'd come under suspicion the next Day. Apparently he didn't believe me :rolleyes:

Night 7 - we killed TGWBS. Eventually we decided I was not the Lover and so decided not to kill a male since we knew there was no point, and we thought we needed to get the innocent Lover that Night, which we would as we were going to go for Lalaith. However, we were then persuaded into killing TGWBS by Ang. That was my fault though, I suggested not going after the Lovers, as if we could lynch an innocent the next Day we would win, not realising that the plan had just been revealed to a Lover :rolleyes:

And that's the gist of it.

[The Saucepan Man]

Why do you think I posted it when I did ... :eek: Ooh! Sneaky! ;)

As I said, just goes to show how analyses can be used as great tools by skillful Wolves.

We also considered how early we should kill Sauce and morm due to their threat-level.I still don't understand why morm and I always seem to viewed in this way. There are many other skillful players who seem to get away with a lot more. Mentioning no names *coughLalaithcough*. ;)

We decided how we would pick who was to be killed each Night (whether by vote or consensus).Did you ever (prior to the final Night) consider how things might be play out if there were two remaining Wolves: one the Lover and one Loveless?

We considered Tali but thought it would be worth keeping him as he was going after Sauce.Indeed. I could have predicted that he would be the last of the known not-Wolves to go.

[Kath]

I still don't understand why morm and I always seem to viewed in this way. There are many other skillful players who seem to get away with a lot more. Mentioning no names *coughLalaithcough*.
Because my dear you have proven your skill. You and morm have both shown that you can win as wolves and as innocents and that you can do it with incredible skill. We now know that Lalaith and Ang can do the same thing, but prior to this game it hadn't been so obvious. That's the reason.

Did you ever (prior to the final Night) consider how things might be play out if there were two remaining Wolves: one the Lover and one Loveless?
No, at least not via PMs at any rate. We sort of figured that we'd get the innocent Lover before too long and the problem would just go away. Really bright plan that :rolleyes:

[mormegil]

Did you ever believe me to be the seer?

[Kath]

Did you ever believe me to be the seer?
Um, I think we contemplated it. Yes, Ang suggested it and we had a little chat about it, but I don't think we ever really thought you were the Seer. Why, were you trying to fake it?

[mormegil]

A bit. It's fun to try and steer the wolf conversation towards yourself when you are merely an innocent ordo, the only problem is the seer dreams of you too :rolleyes:

[Kath]

Ah this is true. Well take heart then, as you were the subject of some conversation, and some serious pushing for your death during the Day too :D

[The Saucepan Man]

Because my dear you have proven your skill. You and morm have both shown that you can win as wolves and as innocents and that you can do it with incredible skill.Well, there are others who have, I think, proven their skill in past games, Lal included. I always think it rather unfair that players like morm, Eomer and I seem to get singled out for special treatment, when others are just as deserving (even though they might be reluctant to accept their just reward ... ;) ).

Looking back on my notes, I see that only one of the baddies (Ang) voted for Nilp that first Day. And his was the vote I least suspected! Gah! Oh well, at least I was right that only one Wolf voted for Eomer. And there was indeed one Wolf (Kath) who no-voted on Day 1.

Gah (again)! Gurth's votes on Days 1 and 2 were such throwaway votes! And his vote for Rune was the most likely Wolf-on-Wolf vote!

This was my suspect list immediately after my Rune death analysis:

Current view:

Almost certainly a Wolf: Gurthang
Possible Wolves: Anguirel, Kath and Glirdan.
Tend to think innocent: Firefoot, Lalaith
Likely innocents: TGWBS, Durelin
Innocents: Caran, Findesea, Tailesin

Innocent Lover: Taliesin or Durelin?Why on earth did I let Gurth slip from top spot on my suspect list??!! And why on earth did I get so hung up about Firefoot??!! Triple Gah! :rolleyes:

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Hey guys sorry to have been absent the last days, but I see Kath has filled you in on our talks. . .

It was actually quite impressive how you got all the rest of my wolf friends so high on your list, SPM . This was also one of the reasons for me to have no desire, checking out what was going on in the game the first days after my death.

btw I still don't see that contradiction wich got me killed and I am pretty sure I would have said the same had I been an ordo. . . I guess my "normal" behaviour is quite lupine. . .

Lhuna, my favourit WW player! I am so sad that you died so fast, I would have loved to see how you reacted when I declared that I was 100% sure that you were (yet again) inocent. . . I had planned when to do it and all, but then you got your self killed the day before!

[Firefoot]

And why on earth did I get so hung up about Firefoot??!! Dunno, but I was starting to feel downright persecuted. ;)

(I've wanted to say that for a long time now... :rolleyes: :D )

[Lalaith]

we could lynch an innocent the next Day we would win, not realising that the plan had just been revealed to a Lover
Funnily enough, that was actually a point I suggested to Ang that he could make to his furry chums. We really thought we were for the chop that night. Another last-ditch point I suggested, although I don't think it ever came to that, was that the trail to Gurth from our deaths was so obvious that he would be lynched for sure...leaving you, Kath, to fight it out alone with four innocents, one of whom (Tali) was a proven.
can win as wolves and as innocents and that you can do it with incredible skill. We now know that Lalaith and Ang can do the same thing

Can I just remind you that we didn't actually win....which was my fault. Ang couldn't have played better - it was a delight to watch a master at work close-up, I can tell you - but I'm not feeling particularly pleased with my own performance. For example, I really should have been much cleverer about persuading you all to lynch Gurthang. That migraine came at a very bad time, game-wise, and then I became very busy in RL, but still, no excuses, there was ammo there and I didn't use it well enough. So thank you, Saucie, for your kind words - but the idea I deserve to be as feared as you, seems ludicrous to me. Particularly as I also failed miserably to persuade the village to lynch the last two wolves I was pursuing (Boro in the Penguin game, who I'd dreamt of, and Eomer in DWWW who I'd deduced)

Did you ever (prior to the final Night) consider how things might be play out if there were two remaining Wolves: one the Lover and one Loveless?
Funnily enough, :rolleyes: Ang and I were extremely worried about this and discussed it at some length. We both also sent anxious PMs to Cailin and Noggie on the subject. Now, we banked on the fact that the Loveless wolf could not actually expose his treacherous colleague to the village without exposing himself in the process. However, the danger was not only that the wolf would obviously agitate for the lynching of the Lover Wolf, but that the Loveless wolf about to be lynched might, in a fit of pique, expose the traitor in his dying breath, as it were. Or, as Gurthang in fact did, refuse to kill anyone except Ang himself, preferring a village win to a traitor victory.

We also tried to keep you alive, Kath, wanting either Rune or Gurthang lynched first, because we realised that once the remaining wolves were all male, then they would know that the innocent Lover was a female and start killing/helping to lynch the remaining girls in the crew.

Incidently, in future Lover games, can I make a small plea on their behalf? It seems rather unfair that while wolves can win if they merely equal the number of innocents, that Lovers only win if they outnumber the others. Can it not be that Lovers win if they are down to the last four? Not that it would have helped us in the endgame we had this time, but still...

[Anguirel]

I am strongly in accord with Lalaith's last point! As it was, we were fighting not for victory, but for the merest approach to victory...

[The Saucepan Man]

Although you could easily have won if Gurthang had made a different choice. While I am obviously happy wth the decision that Gurth made, some Wolves might take the view that it is better for one Wolf to win and survive, even if attached to an innocent Lover.

[Kath]

some Wolves might take the view that it is better for one Wolf to win and survive, even if attached to an innocent Lover.
It's a fair point but with our group we'd pretty much decided that the wolf Lover wasn't on our team. In essence he'd been working against us from Day 1, he wanted us all dead, had he survived it wasn't a win for us.

Also, I see your point about Lalaith and others being just as accomplished, but they don't do it so loudly! That's why you, morm and Eomer get noticed.

[Diamond18]

I have to admit to a certain yearning to see the Lovers prevail, so I'm somewhat disappointed in the win we villagers were handed. But it was a fun game to read over -- many kudos to Cailín and her trusty sub-mod Nogrod for excellent narrations and a wonderful concept. I did however feel for Lal at the end with the "fishwife" portrayal. Oh and it hurt my feelings that no one was purported to care when I was eaten by eels. :p (Otherwise my death was perfect. :D)

I wasn't really involved in the game enough to matter but I did manage to use up all my available time trying to get Eomer and SpM lynched. :rolleyes: Eomer I was never really serious about but boy do I feel a fool for being so sure about SpM. I'm sorry, but you looked extremely wolfish to me and being as I was either too tied up or tired to properly immerse myself in the game (alas, I am not the kind who can pop in, do something brilliant, and pop out) you were the only suspect I had and so I went for you with all my energy.

[Lhunardawen]

Dunno, but I was starting to feel downright persecuted.

(I've wanted to say that for a long time now... )
Hehe. Sorry, m'dear. It would have been wonderful if you really were what I claimed you were, though. :D


Lhuna, my favourit WW player! I am so sad that you died so fast, I would have loved to see how you reacted when I declared that I was 100% sure that you were (yet again) inocent. . . I had planned when to do it and all, but then you got your self killed the day before!
Don't talk to me, you tricksy fur-covered villain! :p Remind me never to fall for that if you do it again...if I ever play again, that is. :rolleyes:

[Durelin]

I have to say I was the most frustrated by your death, Lhuna, closely followed by SPM's. Yours was so silly to me...sillier than lynching the Pan Man even, if only because he is SPaM... :p

Though the death of my ninja buddy was indeed worthy of seppuku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku) (and let me tell you I did consider doing that in-game...).