Treachery of Men Discussion/Planning Thread

[Folwren]

I'm fairly sure you could kill Khandr, as you're planning, and then play another part. I would hate to lose another gamer, though, so I would love it if you could somehow stay in the game, even if you had a different character.

Anguirel wants to still play Drendan and Gausen. His only other character was Lachrandir, who I'm hoping Elempi will play. So, there's none of Anguirel's characters that you need to take up. Lots of other characters were developed and then never used by other players. You could probably take any of them.

But I would be equally happy if you just came up with a new character of your own, if you so wished it. :)

I do hope you'll stay in the game.

-- Folwren

[Mithalwen]

I am most apologetic, then. I did not mean to imply any such thing as what you think I meant to imply.

Thank you. I have no intention of visiting France.

You're pardoned, of course, for what you said (as is Anguirel). I took no offense by anything, you do understand I hope. I was just...extracting myself from being included in the formatilites.

I'm all confused when I shoudln't be. :confused: Oh well.
-- Folwren

Well I have to say I found what you actually said rather offensive even if that was not your intent.

But then I do not see anything that needs pardoning in my own words.

I am really not sure I want to be here anymore.

[Folwren]

.........

I totally thought you were joking the entire time.

I am very sorry.

EDIT: In all honesty, without the least shred of ill will - What did I say wrong? I don't understand. All I said was that I didn't want to be kissed until married, wasn't it? I can accept being rebuked when I put my foot in my mouth and I ought to know better - but I can't see it here.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

All the best for you Ang and I hope to see you back one day or another!


I should probably think all these news before I write anything... but I know myself and will come straight into it.

I've had a lot of things going on as well but the main reason why I have been especially away from this one is due to the structure of this game. Having a lot of characters and the action kind of concentrating on certain parts of the plot it's pretty hard to play a character who although is a major character (by writing standards) is clearly a minor character in the storyline. So there is not much more than "X walked around and thought of this and that" - kind of posts to be made as such a nobody can't actually refigure the plot which seems quite well planned ahead.

Maybe that's what some others have felt as well?

But if the story is moving forwards and we come to the hunting fex. I'm ready and willing to join in again. It's just that there is very little meningful posting to be done for a Borrim hunter who knows hardly anyone in the town right now - and whose writer is unsure who of the other writers are actually present waiting for something to do or just totally away.

But I do hope that this would move forwards...

[Nogrod]

In all honesty, without the least shred of ill will - What did I say wrong? I don't understand. All I said was that I didn't want to be kissed until married, wasn't it?Cultural and/or ideological differences. But I must say that most of the world - I'd like to say all the world - does look at some religious minorities way of thinking a kiss to be something like a tabu quite ridiculous. I mean Jesus kissed his disciples and friends like everyone in the Middle-East do and have done since the time immemorial...

[Folwren]

Yes, perhaps my personal ideas and my family's ideas of what a kiss means are different from everyone else's, but what in heaven's name is insulting or offending about that?

A kiss, simple and modest, from a girl to a girl is a lovely thing, for, say, when friends meet or part. But between a boy and a girl, regardless of how modest and pure it may appear, is in no way acceptable to me or my parents. Not in America in this day and age anyway. Hugs are questionable enough!

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

We all have our ways and that's fair enough. Everyone has a right to think what one wishes - at least in these parts of the world.

But maybe it was the way you answered Mith (and Ang) in the first place? As a second-language speaker I'm not the one to make strong judgements about tone and such matters. But maybe it was a bit... challenging or assertive... or even arrogant?

But maybe you two should PM that thing over as I just came to think that this possibly isn't the right forum for this discussion in the first place. At least I promise to end it right here.

(Feel free to PM me as well if you wish)

[Child of the 7th Age]

I usually tread lightly but I am stepping in here as the RPG moderator. We need to get beyond this and back to the game.

Since so much has been expressed publicly, I feel compelled to say just one thing. Reading over this exchange, starting from the first post, I don't think that anyone on either side meant to hurt each other or was initially angry. However, it's very hard to deal with questions like this on the written page. We can't see the person's expression or body language so it's easy for there to be misunderstandings. There are no "right or wrong" answers in this situation. These are simply cultural and religious questions where people hold different views. Hopefully, that's where this will end up -- respecting the fact that this is a diverse community with many different beliefs and opinions represented.

Also, most importantly both for now and in the future, we've gone a bit off line in terms of what should be dealt with on an RPG discussion thread. Normally, misunderstandings like these, that are not directly related to the game or plot, should be worked out by p.m. (as Nogrod also suggested). If you find yourself at a roadblock, feel free to include Pio or myself in these pm discussions as mods.

I am keeping this thread open but if things get uncomfortable, I'll lock it temporarily just to give us a breather.

And now back to your regularly scheduled broadcast.....

Edit...crossposted with Nogrod.....

[Lalaith]

Right. Poor old Jord is now finally free of the wretched Embla, who is scurrying back to camp. Anyone who wants to can accost her, otherwise she will just bide her time until Jord tries to corrupt her again into colluding with the murder.

[littlemanpoet]

Hello everyone. I've been asked to do my humble best to fill the rather daunting shoes of Anguirel's Lachrandir. I'm willing. In fact, I've been interested in for some time now to write for just such a character.

I'm reading through the rpg which turns out to be a most interesting read. Very good stuff here! I hope I can meld into it well. Bear with me as I catch up.

[littlemanpoet]

I've read the entirety of the rpg itself.

All of this story action in one day. :eek:

I don't think I can write Lachrandir quite the way Anguirel did. I can recount a few instances in which I told myself that I would have handled the Elf differently, due to the way I see such a character, a noble of the House of Fëanor, absolutely certain how far beneath himself, and even Tathren, all these bow-legged Men are, even Ulfang.

By the way, where is Ulfang as of this feast?

The way I see it, Lachrandir is going to want an answer to Caranthir's demand quite soon, and he's going to want it from whoever is really in charge, and he's going to want to know just who that is.

And the way I understand such an Elf, he's going to expect to be served rather than have to go looking for this or that lowly personage. I'm talking arrogance. Perhaps I can carry Ang's style through the evening, and have Lachrandir wake up in the morning and think how churlish and beneath his dignity he had acted on the previous day..... just a thought....

This is two months before the battle, right? How much time is the mustering and marching expected to take? In other words, how many days are Lachrandir and Tathren expected to 'suffer' being amongst the Ulfings?

I admit that I have only read the first couple of pages of the planning thread, so If there's a discussion/planning post that already covers this, please let me know.

And I've seen that Tora's father's name has been "Torguar" for the last couple of pages, but started out as "Birna". "Torguar" seems more fitting with the "Tor" prefix.

One other thing. I've noticed a bunch of "saved" posts with nothing substantial in them littered throughout the rpg.

Oh, I've also prepared a chart to help me keep track of all the characters. I'll link it as soon as I figure out how, because it's too big to attach to this post.

[Folwren]

Elempi, impressive work - reading the entire thing. Glad you got through it so admirably quick.

As for Lachrandir's character - I'm inclined to say, work him however you think best, so long as it matches somewhat to his character description. However, I may be wrong. I believe, though, that when you take a character like this from another player (sad as that is), he's now yours. You can verify it with Pio, though, if you really want to.

--

Captain of Despair, where is Brodda at the moment? Is he going to find Jord, as Uldor wished him to? Let me know, please.

--

Everyone, I'll be here tomorrow, but Tuesday, early morning, I'm headed for camp and will not be back until Friday afternoon.

-- Folwren

[Child of the 7th Age]

One other thing. I've noticed a bunch of "saved" posts with nothing substantial in them littered throughout the rpg.

I am fairly certain this is a system glitch that occurred with the upgrade to the new system. I've noticed this same problem in other areas of the rpg forums: old deletions have been resurrected and come to life. I will try and go through and delete these again.

[piosenniel]

Child

Did you delete them? Because I see no posts to be deleted and no other 'soft-deleted' post other than lmp's last one.

~*~ Pio

[Child of the 7th Age]

Pio,

I was just going to ask you the same thing. I just finished eyeballing the five pages of the game and can only see Littlemanpoet's soft deletion at the end.

BTW, have you figured out how to do a hard deletion yet?

[piosenniel]

No - we don't have that option. I'll bug Undy about it.

~*~ Pio

[Child of the 7th Age]

Thanks. :) I'll send a note to Imp to ask him about the number of some of those save/posts....

[littlemanpoet]

It must have been an upgrade glitch; they're all gone now.

[Nogrod]

It must have been an upgrade glitch; they're all gone now.I managed to delete one of my own from another thread as it had suddenly appeared - and I could swear I had deleted it some two months ago... :rolleyes:

But happily no problem, it seems?

I try to reach up with this one as well, but for the time being there seems not to be a lot to write for a Borrim follower of Khandr who's not allowed anyplace of importance and who has kind of written quite a many posts about wandering around the town by himself already... not to say that the other Borrim's haven't been seen for a long time to go on socialising with them an option by just posting... This is a realistic RPG where people whose characters are outsiders so easily feel themselves outsiders as well...

But if there is someone who would be active this week or the next (RL) and whose character has nothing to do in particular & would like to meet a Borrim retainer, then feel free to PM me and I'd come forwards with Fastarr eagerly...

[Folwren]

Excellent, Nogrod. I'm so happy you're ready and willing to continue playing. I understand the difficulty, though... Hopefully, we'll be able to finish the banquet night sometime in the near future. Unfortunately for you and others who's characters are not at the feast, there are a few little plans still to be played out.

Don't worry. Soon, we will have the hunt moving forward and you'll be able to take part in that.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Hopefully, we'll be able to finish the banquet night sometime in the near future. Unfortunately for you and others who's characters are not at the feast, there are a few little plans still to be played out.I have already schemes going on with Lalaith... thank's to her observations! There is something we built up on between Fastarr and Embla in the beginning of the game and we might try to carry that thing forwards now...

But thanks for your thoughts... the structure of this game is somewhat more challenging to the average writer, but we'll get along as you others dragged on while the borrim were having their "feast" with the elves... :)

[Folwren]

Elempi, good post. Unfortunately, I am leaving for camp tomorrow and I'm too exhausted now to write a post before I go. I don't know when I'll be able to reply, but I will try to do so sometime in the near future. I will try hard to do it during camp...but I can't promise it. Latest will be Friday.

So sorry.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I suppose Ulwarth or Ulfast could overhear and answer for Uldor....? But I can wait.

[Child of the 7th Age]

I will be gone July 11-17 to help my mother sort out her living arrangements. (She's 96.) When I return, I'll figure out a way to revive Khandr, whether or not we've moved forward to the hunt.

[Folwren]

Oh, yes, Ulfast could, if Celuien is around to doing that.

Have fun.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Lalaith: I've made the first set up now. So Embla is back in the quiet house and comes to find Fastarr from the hall... Please carry on from there. And if you have any complaints, please address them to me and I will change what needs to change.

Child: When you come back you may decide whether Khandr is awake or not - and thence whether he would have a discussion with Fastarr about the salary but possibly of other things as well? A lot I think depends on the pace this thing is getting forwards though.

[Lalaith]

That's great Noggie. I'll get back to Fastarr as soon as possible.

[littlemanpoet]

There really are two Fastarr's, aren't there! One's Borrim and the other's Ulfing. Huh! How does one keep this stuff straight? ;)

[Nogrod]

There really are two Fastarr's, aren't there! One's Borrim and the other's Ulfing. Huh! How does one keep this stuff straight? ;)Yes there seems to be... like two Bill's or Frank's in a same village in this world... :)

But myself and Pio came up with the name independently of each other so that's just natural, like life. :D

[littlemanpoet]

So I guess it's Káta's Fastarr and Khandr's Fastarr. .... altho the relationship's different. Wouldn't you know the whom they belong to would both start with 'K'? :p

:: Elempi shrugs::

[Nogrod]

Wouldn't you know the whom they belong to would both start with 'K'? :p:D

[Celuien]

Ulfast's keeper is present and can arrange some eavesdropping (despite the lack of eaves in the hall), but it may take me a few days.

(In other words, work is still fairly overwhelming.)

[Durelin]

I'm back and mostly alive so I'll get Thuringwethil somewhere very soon. Have to read up a bit.... I'll also bug CoD about Brodda. I know he's been keeping up with what's going on at least mostly, but I guess he's missed that he's somehow missed that he's needed...I kinda need to know what Brodda's up to too, hehe.

Belated, but - Thanks, Lalaith, and no worries!

[Nogrod]

Embla and Fastarr have had some late nite words in the hall of Khandr...

Thanks Lalaith for those corrections. It looks better now!

Child: it's up to you whether you wish Khandr to be still awake and thence come down with Hugo to meet Fastarr - or both of them, Embla and Fastarr...

Lalaith: feel free to continue wherever you wish.

[Lalaith]

What would you like Embla to do now? She can hang around until Khandr turns up, or slope off to brood. Its up to you. Durelin, how quickly do you want to move on the Plot?

[Lalaith]

Ok guys, I'm off and away from the net for a week. I'm leaving Embla in the kitchen, if anyone needs to talk to her, just use her as you wish. She can also have left the kitchen if Khandr would rather speak to Fastarr alone.
Whatever you like.

[Nogrod]

I'm leaving Embla in the kitchen, if anyone needs to talk to her, just use her as you wish.In the hall you must mean... :)

[Folwren]

Hm. This needs to go forward, but I'm unable to advance it. Of course, Uldor and Lachrandir could probably spend a deal more time throwing insults back and forth, but that would be pointless and wouldn't get anyone anywhere.

Durelin - is your character coming to the banquet?

Celuien - what about Ulfast and the girl's singing?

And does anyone else have anything planned for this evening? I seem to recall a few little plots and plans being made to annoy Uldor...a drunken servant, for one, who talks too much?

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

And does anyone else have anything planned for this evening? I seem to recall a few little plots and plans being made to annoy Uldor...a drunken servant, for one, who talks too much?Besides the banquet there are some minor things goin on at Khandr's residence but I don't think they are too important anyhow. So the story might skip to the next day as well pretty soon?

I'm just missing Child both to tell whether Khandr is coming downstairs or not but generally as well... Hopefully it's nothing bad with her mother or anything like that. I mean she told us to be back on July 17th... *sends a wish to the stars*

[Mithalwen]

I should post for Tathren but I will have limited time online till next weekend. I will try though :)

[Folwren]

I think, though am not sure, that I saw Child online today or yesterday, Nogrod. Hope that pleases you. :)

I am not sure how soon the story will skip on to the next day. Sorry that I can't answer that question.

--

Mithalwen, it would be very happy if you could post.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

I think, though am not sure, that I saw Child online today or yesterday, Nogrod. Hope that pleases you. :)Yes. The member's site gives one the knowledge that she has been online "today". But that's not the point I think and it doesn't please me at all (and what is the value of things pleasing myself when others may have hard times?)... It makes me all the more worried.

So the fact doesn't help me from thinking there is something wrong with all the stuff she told us about her mother... The post-counter just tells us when she has had time to check in, even briefly.

Were everything right and well she would have written a host of posts or at least short posts to the "discussion thread" to show she is around and all is well, just a bit busy. But what does it tell that she has been online (to look at what goes on) but has had no time enough to make even one post...? With her sense of duty I could never imagine she could just pop in and leave the things be even if they were stalling badly - in her own games(!) - if everything was allright in RL. But as there has been no word from her in a long time (her last post is from 10.07.07 - and she said to be back on the July17th), so yes, I am a bit worried indeed.

About her mom that is.

Wishing upon the star yet another time Child!

I really do hope I'm wrong with all this.

[Celuien]

Yes. Ulfast will introduce the singing and make the announcement about the hunt shortly.

[littlemanpoet]

Warning: Do not hold the shift key down (for more than 8 seconds) while considering your next thought for your post. My keyboard went on the fritz and I never got to complete my post. Thankfully, Celuien has only placed a "save", so I can complete it. (whew!)

Question: according to the basic principle of the story line, Lachrandir is supposed to be impressed with the Ulfings despite himself. Um, when - and more importantly how - are the Ulfings going to do this? In all my readings of this rpg I have not seen a single instance of anything of that sort; granted, the entirety has taken place on a single day so there is surely time for that to develop.

Question #2: Lachrandir is among the Ulfings to deliver his lord's message. That message has been delivered. "L" is also among them to receive their answer, which I imagine will come some time in the next couple of Days. Is there any reason for Lachrandir to remain amongst the Ulfings once this has occurred?

[Folwren]

I wondered about that. It didn't seem like a good ending to a post - I had no idea where to go from there.

Answer to Question: I have no idea.

Actually, quite honestly, I didn't know that we were supposed to impress Lachrandir. That adds complications, doesn't it? I'll be thinking about it.

Answer to Queston #2: We could make a reason for Lachrandir to remain. What if he were to be wounded in the hunt, for instance? Somehow...

And thanks, Celuien. I'm looking forward to your post. :)

-- Folwren

[Durelin]

Once again I apologize for generally sucking.

But anyway -- a post for Thuringwethil/Jord to bring her to the banquet quite fashionably late will go up very soon. A save might sit up there for a little bit because I'm paranoid, but if I don't fill it today I will not sleep well tonight from guilt.....

Sorry for being slow with plans, Lalaith. I'll keep in touch to plan Jord and Embla's next meeting... *shifty eye movement*

Edit:

Post is up. Jord loves being obnoxious, but I don't want to be, so I can edit if I've royally screwed up plans for Ulfast, Uldor, and Lachrandir specifically....

Oh, and, could Lachrandir possibly remain as a representative to keep an eye on the Ulfings and maintain a connection? It's not like there's any trust there...and this would only rub the Ulfings the wrong way more, that the Elves would linger because they do not trust them.

Lachrandir and Tathren aren't alone in this are they? We could write in a party so there're others to send back the answer...?

[Folwren]

I'd like to say, Celuien - don't rush on answer my post after you fill your save. I honestly don't know when I'll next have access to a computer with internet. In about five hours, we're leaving for vacation and won't returning home for about two weeks. I might have internet access during that time, but I am not entirely positive on that.

Have fun.

-- Folwren

[Durelin]

Apologies - I realized I had Uldor and Lachrandir standing for some reason. Fixed.

And...

Who wants to sit next to Jord? :D

[Nogrod]

I will be away for a week and after that only able to hang around a few days before disappearing for another week.

Use Fastarr if you think it fits. I'm pretty lenient with it. :)

Have fun! I will have fun as well...

[Lalaith]

I'm back now but I'll wait on Child/Khandr's reappearance to do anything with Embla.
Hope she's ok....

[littlemanpoet]

Do you suppose Lachrandir might send Tathren on a secret errand to discern what he may with Elvish stealthiness?

[Nogrod]

Sadly my hands have been full the few days I've been at home and I haven't had time to see what has happened here.

But like I said the last time I'm on my way to a summercamp tomorrow and will be back in a week just to start the school-season (the first days will be pretty rough). But I hope to turn back to this in 1½-2 weeks with at least some effort. I do have a few larger projects in the beginning of the season but it should ease a bit when September comes.

[Child of the 7th Age]

I have been in and out of town for most of the summer on family business. Will be home later in the week for a bit. I'll try to catch up then.

[Folwren]

I have returned for good, finally. I see nothing much has taken place since my departure, in the game leastways.

Elempi, you may certainly send Tathren on some secret mission, if it so pleases you and your stuck up character. Talk to Mith, naturally.

And, by the way: Uldor wasn't babbling to Jord, he was being polite. ;)

Nogrod and Child, I'm glad you're back.

Celuien, are you around? Could you possibly be filling your save shortly?

I'd like to get this evening under way and behind us.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi, you may certainly send Tathren on some secret mission, if it so pleases you and your stuck up character. Talk to Mith, naturally. Sounds good. I will speak with Mithalwen.

And, by the way: Uldor wasn't babbling to Jord, he was being polite. You must understand Lachrandir's mind. ;) Until this point, Uldor has been reticent in the extreme, and suddenly he's burbling like a flowing stream. What's an Elf to think? :D

[Folwren]

Oh, I understand. I understand completely. :rolleyes: I am seriously going to be hard put making my character more unpleasant than yours. ;)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

He doesn't have to be MORE unpleasant, just very unpleasant in his own way. Lachrandir is, of course, arrogant in the extreme, as befits a Fëanorian Elf. Uldor, I imagine, is ambitious and conniving in the extreme, by contrast, and will stop at nothing to get what he wants. Do I understand him aright?

[Folwren]

Yes, you probably view him correctly. He's arrogant, too, like Lachrandir. He should be much more odious - he has more faults. He's loathsome to me. Lachrandir cracks me up, though...

Anyway...this game needs to get on. Who all is here?

-- Folwren

[Celuien]

Save filled at long last.

[littlemanpoet]

Seems like Uldor ought to respond to these jibes before Lachrandir has another self-aggrandizing series of thoughts..... :p

[Folwren]

:mad: <- Uldor at present.

Yes, yes, you are quite right, Elempi. I shall write a post this evening, quite sure. :) It's nearly time for dinner now, though, so I can't write at present.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

I edited my original post. Just so you all know and in case some of you had already read it.

[littlemanpoet]

Yowza! That last post has bite! Way to go! :)

"They fear me." HEE HEE!

(Elempi gets carried away with glee.....)

[littlemanpoet]

What happens next?

I could have Lachrandir trade more snide remarks with Uldor, but that's getting old.

Is Ulfast going to require Mem to sing?

Seems either some kind of action is needed, or this feast and day could be wrapped up if there's nothing left to happen.

[Folwren]

You're right, Elempi. I'm toying with the idea of putting up a save and letting it work as a place for people to put posts into if they want to write more for this evening. With that up, we can continue on to the next day, or the day of the hunt, which may be best.

Does anyone have any alternate ideas or objections or anything before I put a save up? We really need to continue so the Borrim players can get back into action.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

I'm so sorry I have been taken away from all this the last weeks - and will be hands full of work for a few days still.

Just work from early morning to over midnight every day... :(

But I'll be back as soon as I can. Within a week I hope.

[Durelin]

I am here, with net access again after moving into college and figuring out my college's retarded server.

Actually, I am liking it here.

Anyway -- I imagine it will be the men on this hunt, leaving perhaps Embla and Jord to have some more quality time? :D I doubt either of them would want to tag along anyway...

[Lalaith]

Has anyone seen my husband?

[Folwren]

I'm not sure, Lalaith. I really don't know what Child's been up to.

Shall I put up a save for the finishing of this evening, folks? I believe I will Monday, unless people protest, and we'll continue onto ... some other day.

Sorry it's been so long. :o

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Hm. I am having a terribly hard time coming up with a proper post to move the time forward.

Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas for how the muster should begin? What would need to be done?

Does a camp need to be set up so that men can go there and prepare?
When should the muster start? Should it be before or after the hunt?
What other details need seeing to?
How long would it take?
Any answers will be welcome. I'll put up a Save today and not write a post after that and if anyone else wants to write, then go ahead.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas for how the muster should begin?Lots of barking dogs and horses and men. Lots of servants running around at the beck and call of their masters.

What would need to be done?gear readied. arrows refletched. bows tested. food prepared. hooves shoed. horses groomed. men's pride flattered. ;) boasts and jests bandied back and forth

Does a camp need to be set up so that men can go there and prepare?no. I don't think so. This is a one day deal. meals on the way.

When should the muster start?just after dawn

Should it be before or after the hunt? Huh? Oh, you mean the muster is for the army to march and the hunt is a separate thing. Right? I thought you were talking about mustering for the hunt at first. Or are you? I'm confused.

[Folwren]

I'm talking about the muster of the seven thousand men that Lachrandir came to demand of the Ulfings. You can find it in this post (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=501139&postcount=53). I believe it needs to be begun immediately and I wish to describe how Uldor would go about getting it started.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

So the little hunting expedition doesn't take place before the muster? If not, how can it take place at all?

[Folwren]

I figure the muster is going to have to begin soon. The seven thousand are not all in that one little area. Uldor can begin sending messengers out to spread the word and the men that are mustered can be told to begin congregrating at X at a certain time, which could be any time that we choose.

No, the Hunt can go forward as planned, but the muster of people in other villages and places must begin at once, as I see it.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, that makes sense.

Um, I have a request. Anybody who knows me probably figured this was bound to happen. I like writing Lachrandir, but he is an adopted character. I have an idea for another character I'd like to write into this rpg, a "sooth-sayer", except that his words would not sooth but rile. He is already rather well formed in my mind. The idea is that he is either an Ulfing or a Borrim, and through means uncertain, seems to know what's actually going to happen, at least in general, and he declares it to whomever will hear. As a warning.

May I present the character descrip?

[Folwren]

It sounds fine to me and if Piosenniel does not object, I think it would be fine. Sounds like a lot of fun, actually. :D

I don't know how Uldor will like it, though...I guess it depends on just what the seer foresees and prophesies.

-- Folwren

[piosenniel]

lmp - the new character is fine - just get the bio on board here before you post for him.

[Durelin]

Ooh, Thuringwethil's going to *love* him.... :p

[Lalaith]

Embla's got her "eye", too, so maybe it might make the Borrim camp atmosphere a bit too intensely prophetic if you made your chap a Borrim as well, elempi...might work better as a Ulfling? Whatever, I don't mind...

[littlemanpoet]

Thanks for the permission and the comments, all.

Lalaith, thanks for verbalizing what I was already thinking in a general but vague sense. Ulfing he will be. I think that'll work better.

And Durelin, I had thought about how 'Thorn' would get along with Thuringwethil.... ;)

Bio coming soon. Thanks again! :)

[Folwren]

We'll look forward to that, Elempi. :)

I put up a post, sending out messengers. It occurred to me as I posted it though - would that be all it took? Someone coming out, reading an order, and then leaving again? Would the men answer and come as bidden? Anyway, I did it.

Will someone be willing to move time forward to the hunt date?

If anyone has something that has to be accomplished before that time, let me know and we can hold up on it a little while. But not too long.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

NAME: Thorn

AGE: late fifties

RACE: Ulfing

GENDER: Male

WEAPONS: oaken staff covered in totemic carvings of beasts and birds, topped by a lifelike representation of an owl; bow and arrows; a dagger; a carving knife.

APPEARANCE: weather beaten, wrinkled and craggy; hair is stiff and gray, cropped short and uneven, ears are visible. His eyes are dark brown. He is average height for a man. Wears handmade boots, trousers and tunic of deerskin; a dark brown and weatherstained woolen cloak with attached hood worn only during inclement weather. Has a leather waterflask hanging to one side.

PERSONALITY/STRENGTHS/WEAKNESSES: Curt, to the point, even to the point of being harsh and offensive (this can be seen as both strength and weakness). Keeps his secrets. Astute about people and their motivations, but not gregarious. Prefers wandering in the wilds to human company. Makes certain of what he says before he says it. Loves children and is compassionate to the powerless.

HISTORY: Oldest of three children, he was a very smart child but nothing came naturally to him. He had to figure out everything through studying and experimenting, from swimming to whittling to shooting an arrow to conversing with other people. At his time of testing, age 14, he stayed in the wild for the seven appointed days, but did not come back to his village. They searched for him, and finally gave him up for dead, unsurprised at his supposed failure to pass his testing. But he had figured out how to survive in the wild, and saw no point in returning to the limits of his village. Hungry for knowledge, though he did not know it at the time, he wandered far and explored the wilds, ever curious. He lived alone for years.

One day, being alone and quiet, he came within a half a moment of surprising an Elf. This Elf was intrigued by a human that could move so quietly, especially one so unfair to look upon and like an Elf in no other way except his woodcraft. This Elf, named Celehan, was not of the Three Kindreds who went westward, but was of the Laiquendi; however, he had come west as far as the eastern feet of Ered Luin before turning back, quailing at the relative proximity of Thangorodrim. Celehan taught Thorn many things, including the gift of foreknowledge, for he recognized the singular percipience of Thorn's Fëa, and trained it and him.

After a few seasons (a little over a year), they parted ways amicably, for Celehan wished to go eastward while Thorn sought westward, and finally rejoined his people; but he had been changed by the years and by his newfound wisdom. The Ulfings that welcomed him were rare. So he wandered often in the wild, returning to his people now and again with words usually bitter to hear.


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FIRST POST FOR THE GAME:

Thorn sat on a seat of moss that covered a fallen tree. The sun was westering and he was staring at the eyes of Owl. Some folk had guessed that his forethought came from the staff itself, that an Owl fëa had been caught and enslaved to his will. Foolishness. Owl's eyes served as a point of focus so that his own fëa could be fee to catch echoes of the Song that Celehan had taught him.

Thorn's teacher had told him that he had wakened beneath the stars long, long ago, and had been taught by one who had come from the West, who called himself the Great Hunter. That one had called the Eldar to come west, and Celehan had, with many others, harkened to the call and journeyed west. But the farther west he had come, the harder the road until the fear of Thangorodrim had stopped him. So Celehan wandered the wilds of Middle Earth, still hearing the Song though not crossing the Great Sea to be with his teacher.

Thorn listened for the Song. Sometimes it sounded unclear. At such times he would look to his own heart to see if he had allowed his steps to wander from the truth and the right. Usually he found some way in which he had, and when he eschewed such ways, found that the Song could again be heard. He could hear it now. Doom was afoot for the Ulfings, his people. Their lords would lead them into evil. It was time to return to his folk and tell them what he knew. He set his face westward, for he would have to pass north of the Ered Luin and come south to meet the Ulfings.

[littlemanpoet]

Thorn's "first post" is up for review on this thread now too. Please let me know what you think. It's just above this post.

[Folwren]

Elempi,

Your post looked fine to me. As I've said before, he sounds like a very interesting character. I hope, for his sake, he does not run in Uldor's way very much.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I've put Thorn's first post up on the rpg. That means I've double posted. I'd apologize but I'm not sorry. If my fellow writers don't want me to double post, they'll need to post more often. ;)

Incidentally, is Celuien going to be available to post for Ulfast? If not, what is going to happen to that critical character?

[Folwren]

I don't mind you double posting. But I do agree that it would be extremely nice of other people posted more often.

Celuien....*Folwren looks sad and slightly confused*....I don't know. She hasn't contacted me at all about this game, either here or by PM. I will write her, though.

Who else is here to post? Can someone possibly move time forward to the day of the hunt, or do you want me to do that? It could really be done by any character in the game, seeing as most everyone will have some part in that day.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

It might be beneficial to take a rough poll of who is actually around to write before starting the Hunt day, as it will involve writers of Borrim who have not been around in a while.

[Folwren]

I just PMed a couple of them. Do you suppose I should do the same for the rest? Or should I expect them to check on here?

If you're around on this thread, go ahead and post and let me know, please!

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

I just answered your PM Foley but your PM box was full and the message didn't get through... :rolleyes:

But as I said there: I've had a lot more work this late summer / early fall I could ever have expected and have just been unable to take time for any RPG's. Which is a great pity as I like them that much.

But it should ease up right now and I'm planning on updating myself with the RPG's I'm in this week / weekend so maybe the next week I could be back once again.

Thanks for your care Foley. I do appreciate!

[Folwren]

Dear friends,

About two months ago, right when Anguirel left our midsts, I said some rather hard things that shouldn’t have been said. I mistook his offer of a kiss and responded accordingly to what I thought he meant. I over-reacted, and I am sincerely sorry for it.

But Anguirel was not the only person I wronged. I also insulted Mithalwen, still being under my incorrect illusion of what was meant by the ‘kiss kiss’, and for that I am very sorry.

As Mith said thus -

"Really Folwren, shame on you. For someone who generally seems to try to see the best in people you have managed to put the most unpleasant spin on something quite sweet and innocent."

I quite agree and am (far too late as it may be) ashamed and sincerely sorry for my misunderstanding and incorrect reaction.

If I also insulted or turned any one else away, I wanted to apologize to them, too. Please believe me when I say I had no intention whatsoever to offend or be rude.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I have another post for Thorn just about ready, but left it at work :mad: and have no desire to try to put it together from recall. So I'll try to post it during lunch tomorrow.

I really do hope that this rpg, which has lots and lots of potential (go read the first page full page!), can get going again.

Please?

[Mithalwen]

Thank you for that.

I am sorry that the game has been held up. I have had a lot of RL things going on and while my depression about the whole wretched matter did not encourage me to make the Downs a priority, sincerely my absence is not simply due to a fit of pique (at least not entirely :(). I wished a harder role on myself than I anticipated when I pleaded with Ang to let Lachrandir have a Page and have found writing him mucn harder than I expected. I am shortly leaving for Oxonmoot. I will try to get to grips with him on my return.

[Folwren]

Mith, I'm so glad. Thanks so much. I'll be looking forward to your post. :D Glad you'll be coming back soon.

Can't stay longer. May write something tomorrow.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

I'm not the leader, no-one has anointed me with the role, but I'd love to see this thing show a heartbeat.

If I may make so bold as to ask, which writers are still writing? Please make yourselves known.

If we know who our active writers are, then we know which characters to write the rest of this rpg around, and it gains focus and momentum. So let's hear from everyone who plans to post here, okay?

[Lalaith]

Well I'm happy to participate but there's very little my character can do at the moment, as far as I can see.

[littlemanpoet]

Well I'm happy to participate but there's very little my character can do at the moment, as far as I can see.
Your character's husband gave her an assignment of sorts, allowing her to rove free of the homestead, and with the focus on Thuringwethil. Durelin is still writing when she gets a chance, far as I know. However, do you feel that your character might take advantage of her newfound freedom to do more than spy on Thuringwethil? And if so, what or whom might she encounter?

[Child of the 7th Age]

I will be reading over the threads tomorrow and trying to unthaw my brain. If anyone has ideas for the Borrim and/or my character, please let me know on this thread or by p.m.....

[littlemanpoet]

I don't know how clearly it is worked out when the hunt is versus the muster. I guess the muster has started and will take one week? Two? During that time the hunt takes place. Wouldn't the hunt take place the next day? Or was it two days after the feast?

Posts could be written describing preparations for the hunt, whether of the hardware variety or the human contact variety.

[Folwren]

Thanks, Elempi, for taking hold of the reins. I kind of needed it just now, having been extremely busy this last week. My business will continue over the weekend and only on Monday will I be back in full force again. . .

I don't know how clearly it is worked out when the hunt is versus the muster. I guess the muster has started and will take one week? Two? During that time the hunt takes place. Wouldn't the hunt take place the next day? Or was it two days after the feast?

The hunt is taking place one week after the feast. It says so in the invitation that Khandr sent to the Ulfangs. This week should be written quickly, maybe within two or three posts from different people.

Posts could be written describing preparations for the hunt, whether of the hardware variety or the human contact variety.

Yes. That sounds right. :)

As for the muster...no one, so far as I know, has any characters really affected by the muster, so that really doesn't need to be addressed until after the hunt. I think Uldor is expecting his messengers back within a week. So I plan on writing concerning that after we have finished the hunt.

Thanks again.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

That means that Thorn (and Fleet) will be there by the time of the Hunt. Hmmmm...! :)

[Folwren]

That means that Thorn (and Fleet) will be there by the time of the Hunt. Hmmmm...! :)

Elempi, allow me to give you fair warning. Uldor's not the type to necessarily put up with Thorn's babbling for very long...in fact, he won't put up with it for any time at all if his talk gets too dangerous to Uldor.

I thought you might like to know. :p

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

"Babbling?" You must be channeling Uldor. ;)

One characteristic of Thorn is wisdom. Not having any special abilities nor the protection fo 'the gods', he won't be stupid.

[Folwren]

One characteristic of Thorn is wisdom. Not having any special abilities nor the protection fo 'the gods', he won't be stupid.

Well, good, I am sincerely glad to hear it, for your sake.

I'm off and won't be returning until Monday. Have a good weekend, everybody!

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Well, good, I am sincerely glad to hear it, for your sake.My sake?!? I'm not the one who has to face Uldor, Thorn is. ;)

[Folwren]

For goodness' sake. As the writer for Uldor, I would feel sorry for the writer of Thorn should Thorn happen to be hurt (er...killed). As Uldor, I would not be sorry for Thorn in the slightest.

No. I would not pity Thorn at all.

Now I really AM off until Monday.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

For goodness' sake. As the writer for Uldor, I would feel sorry for the writer of Thorn should Thorn happen to be hurt (er...killed). As Uldor, I would not be sorry for Thorn in the slightest.But all of this depends upon the writer's intentions for the character.

[Folwren]

But all of this depends upon the writer's intentions for the character.

How do you mean?

[littlemanpoet]

If a character is intended to survive the adventure, said character will be handled in certain ways; if a character is intended not to survive the adventure, then said character will be handled in certain other ways. Simple.

[littlemanpoet]

I have narrated a full seven days to bring the rpg to the hunt. If there is anything anyone wants changed, please let me know and I will of course do so.

[Folwren]

If a character is intended to survive the adventure, said character will be handled in certain ways; if a character is intended not to survive the adventure, then said character will be handled in certain other ways. Simple.

Oh. Yes. Naturally. Ha! I thought you had a far deeper meaning than that. ;)

I'm back, kind of, and will be not only 'kind of' back, but totally back, tomorrow.

-- Foley

[Child of the 7th Age]

I'd really appreciate some ideas here on how you'd like to get the Borrim (or at least this Borrim character) back in the story line. I'm prepared to write but aren't sure how you'd like to handle this, given the fact that we have a number of characters lying dormant (whether permanently or temporarily).

[littlemanpoet]

In my opinion, any characters whose writers have not been present for at least 3 months, may now be considered npc's until and unless the writers reassert their presence and will upon them. Given that, I recommend taking control of any characters already provided, in order to achieve your rpg goals. Khandr is a leader and the initiator of the hunt, so I suggest taking charge.

[Folwren]

Child,

Would it be alright if sometime today or tomorrow I write a post wherein I get the Ulfangs to the Borrim's and there meet with Khandr? This will give you and your character an easy place of entrance.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

I fear it is a poorly written post, but I have gotten the Uflings to the Borrim place.

-- Folwren

[Celuien]

I'm terribly sorry for not having been around - I've been awfully busy.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'm going to be able to continue in this story. Between the crazy work hours I'm going to have for the next five weeks (I've hit 40 and it's only Wednesday) and non-work issues, I haven't had time to write anything and I don't think my inability to particpate is fair to everyone else.

Apologies to all, and best wishes with the story.

[littlemanpoet]

At the risk of being too forward, I'm kind of interested in these brothers of Uldor, and wouldn't mind having a go at writing them, but I don't want to take over the entire rpg, if you know what I mean.....

[Folwren]

I would love it. I didn't know what other option we had but that of me taking him, and I didn't want to play all three.

Do you want both Ulfast and Ulfang? That could be extremely interesting. Maybe we could play Ulfang jointly?

What are your thoughts?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

My sense is to write Ulfwarth as a brother with no ambition because he realizes he's the third in line and with such powerhouses as Uldor and Ulfast, what's the point? So he absorbs himself in his pleasures (whatever they may be), and sides with Ulfast because he hates and fears Uldor, and Ulfast has always played to Ulwarth's vanity.

Ulfast is a little different. My sense is that he has strong ambition for the rulership of the Ulfings and plots and counterplots and schemes all he can to somehow unseat Uldor, and he has a strongly loyal but smallish following. My sense is that he's the least worst of the three brothers.

Seeing the two this way, I think it would be hard , Foley, for you to write either of them as well as Uldor. Unless you can see a way to it.....

[Folwren]

I pictured Ulwarth far more evil than what you just made him out to be. I wrote his entire bio with the intention of having a very tricksy, non-pleasant character, who is as treacherous, if not more, than Uldor himself. I don't think he has any ambitions for himself...no, he's more content in foiling the ambitions of his older brother.

Unfortunately, after developing such a character, I was told that I could have Uldor, so I haven't had any chance at all to work with Ulwarth. I'm thinking that's because Celuien didn't write much for Ulfast and therefore I had little to do with Ulwarth. *Shrug*

I don't know. And I can't stay to figure it out. It's time for lunch and if I miss it, Mom will be cranky because I'll have to eat while I'm supposed to be cleaning it up.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'll write Ulfast if you have definite ideas for Ulwarth. Can I write Ulfang then? Seems he ought to have more of a role than he's been given so far.

[Folwren]

Hm. I'd better to talk to Captain of Despair. He was the one in charge of Ulfang.

You can use Ulwarth if you like, but I'd like to be able to play him occasionally when I've got time or motivatio, too.... But sharing a character could cause us to run into problems, in time.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Thorn waited, staff in hand, at the edge of the Borrim encampment. He could be patient when it came to waiting, for his purpose was clear; once that purpose had been seen to, then he would move on to the next thing.

After a whle, the Borrim emissary came riding out of the encampment.

"Lord Khandr!" Thorn cried. "A word, if I may! I have urgent news!"

The Borrim leader's horse came up and stopped a moment, and Lord Khandr regarded Thorn with a measuring look.

Would the Borrim leader pass him by, or would he stop? Either way, Thorn had a plan. But he waited to see which it would be.

[Folwren]

Elempi, dear chap, I believe the last post goes on the RPG thread. :p

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Good heavens. :eek: I do that every once in a great while. :p I'll move it.

[Nogrod]

Good to see you have moved the game forwards!

I do hope many things...

I hope Child would make the post that we could get on with the story.

I hope Child could fex. PM me and other Borrim still around if she has any ideas about what the Borrim should do (there clearly will be Khandr's orders) so that we wouldn't ruin any plans and to give us some guidelines as well as it is hard to be very initiative as a servant in these matters...

I also hope I could arrange time to get back into this RPG... and well, it looks promising within a week or two but then again I have said the same thing before. :confused:

[Child of the 7th Age]

Post up. Ugh. That was like pulling teeth. Shows you want happens when you don't write for several months! Please tell me if anything needs adjusting.

Nogrod....I have no honest idea what is happening! :eek: My main thought was to have us gather information, listen at keyholes and see if anuthing turns up. If you have any ideas of your own, let me know. I am going to write Durelin and see if she is still writing for Jord.

[littlemanpoet]

save: Lord Khandr is of two minds :D Figured he would be. Can't wait to see what you write. :D :: Elempi hops around in anticipation ::

[Child of the 7th Age]

Save filled. Speak up, man....speak up!

[Durelin]

*stumbles in*

I'm here! Really I am! I still want to be Jord/Thuringwethil! That is, if you'll still have me.

I feel terrible for disappearing. I'll read up and try and re-orient myself in the story.

Edit: Oh, and I'll actually clear out my PM box, too...promise.

[Folwren]

Ha! Welcome back, Durelin. I'm glad you've returned.

[littlemanpoet]

Elempi walks up to the prone figure that is "Treacher of Men RPG" and gives it a nudge at the shoulder. No response.

"Hmmm...."

Elempi puts his ear close to the figure's nose, listening for the faintest hint of breath.

"Uh oh, no sign of life."

Elempi straigtens and looks around.

"Worse and worse: no one in sight."

Elempi puts his hands to his mouth to effect a megaphone.

"Hello! Anybody out there? A medic? A miracle worker? If not, maybe we'd best put this corpse underground before it stinks up the place!"

Elempi waits for an answer.

[Folwren]

It's got faint signs of life in it yet, seeing as how you and I are still paying some attention to it. But we can't carry the game by ourselves. :confused:

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

It's got faint signs of life in it yet, seeing as how you and I are still paying some attention to it. But we can't carry the game by ourselves.Precisely.

I've given my previous post more than 10 hours to receive some response, and yours, Foley, is the only one. That's moribund.

Considering the great start this "body" had, and its current condition (virtually comatose), it's ridiculous to try to continue this.

There needs to be posting at least once per week by those who have said, within the last 2 months, that they are still in. This includes Child & Durelin nad possibly Mithalwen.

If by the end of November there is not posting at least once per week by at least four writers, I'll pull out.

[Lalaith]

As I've said before , I'm quite prepared to post something but right now I'm at an impasse.
I interact primarily with the characters of Nogrod, Child and Durelin, who aren't really around. My primary plot function, which was to "see" something and try, unsuccessfully, to warn the elves, has kind of been pre-empted. So I don't really see where I can go from here. Sorry.

[Folwren]

Lalaith, can your woman come on the hunt with us? If this game gets going ahead, your character may see something there with which to warn the elves. ;) I'm perfectly serious...despite the winking fellow.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

As I've said before , I'm quite prepared to post something but right now I'm at an impasse.
I interact primarily with the characters of Nogrod, Child and Durelin, who aren't really around. My primary plot function, which was to "see" something and try, unsuccessfully, to warn the elves, has kind of been pre-empted. So I don't really see where I can go from here. Sorry.
I'm sorry to have pre-empted. I confess to impatience based on lack of movement. If other writers' failure to write stopped you, then what can one say? But you point to the big problem with this rpg: the people we need to be writing, aren't doing it, and don't show any signs of writing any time soon.

[Child of the 7th Age]

With a creek and a groan Khandr emerges from the bushes.....

I don't know if my post makes any sense, but at this point a garbled post has to be better than no post. I've got a lead-in for Embla if she'd like to come and speak with Khandr. The poor fellow is a bit flummoxed and may actually be prepared to take Embla into his confidence.

[Nogrod]

the people we need to be writing, aren't doing it, and don't show any signs of writing any time soon.Admitted. And I'm very sorry about it. This has just been the busiest autumn I've ever seen. But there's yet again light ahead. The next weekend is my first truly free weekend for ages and I'd be happy to try to catch up with this and to write something to get myself going again.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Nogrod,

If you need Khandr to give you any kind of "latch" to get into the plot line, just let me know.

Child

[littlemanpoet]

My primary plot function, which was to "see" something and try, unsuccessfully, to warn the elves, has kind of been pre-empted.That Thorn has seen and said his bit doesn't mean Embla can't. Besides, the two characters are different enough that they would probably do different things with the information, and convey it differently too.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod,

If you need Khandr to give you any kind of "latch" to get into the plot line, just let me know.That would be appreciated indeed. It would both make the entry back easier as I would have a situation to come into and it would also function as a further incentive to actually sit down and write as it now seems I might actually have the time for it.

[Folwren]

Looks like this game body might pull out of its coma after all, Elempi. ;)

But I won't get too hopeful yet.

-- Folwren

[piosenniel]

- CHANGE OF NAME -

In order to avoid any confusion with Nogorod's character, I've gone through the game and changed one of my characters' names.

Fastarr (one of the twins) will now be Falarr

If I missed any posts where the change was needed, please leave the post # here on the Discussion Thread.

Thanks!

[Lalaith]

I'll go and liase with my spouse in a while. Nogrod, is there any further business you'd like me to attend to vis a vis your chap?

[Nogrod]

I'll go and liase with my spouse in a while. Nogrod, is there any further business you'd like me to attend to vis a vis your chap?I'll try to read up the stuff tomorrow to both update myself and to remind me of things done. I'll let you know if I have any ideas but generally I think we should make the two to meet again in some near future to see if it could fex. offer the plot some nice twists. I mean there is potential there to have interesting turns there.

And it's always nicer to write with someone than alone.

If you have any ideas please tell me.

In order to avoid any confusion with Nogorod's character, I've gone through the game and changed one of my characters' names.
Okay. Although there surely could be two people sharing a name in a community like that. But gamewise it sure is reasonable to avoid confusion.

Funny you managed to pick the same name back then though. :)

[Noinkling]

Pio

I've filled my SAVE :)

So push our little family along as needed.

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bill_n_sam - if you're still about - I'm planning on Granny and the entourage showing up at Dag's door with the flimsiest of excuses for the visit. Falki will be there hoping to see Mem :D

[piosenniel]

Noinkling - Thanks! Will post tomorrow (off to work now)

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Nogrod - I found that name on a list of Old Norse names. One of its meaning was 'Strong Defender'.

[Nogrod]

Nogrod - I found that name on a list of Old Norse names. One of its meaning was 'Strong Defender'.Me too. And that meaning was in my mind as my character would be Khandr's staunch servant. :)

[Folwren]

Noinkling, unfortunately, bill_and_sam has not been online since June 12. I don't imagine she'll be coming back. :(

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

bill_n_sam - if you're still about - I'm planning on Granny and the entourage showing up at Dag's door with the flimsiest of excuses for the visit. Falki will be there hoping to see Mem :DWhile you were away, I posted in general with a suggestion that Mem has been a victim of some terrible unnamed deed at the hands of Ulwarth. This may be deleted if you prefer, or it may come into play, as you wish. Please let me know what you want to do.

[Folwren]

While you were away, I posted in general with a suggestion that Mem has been a victim of some terrible unnamed deed at the hands of Ulwarth. This may be deleted if you prefer, or it may come into play, as you wish. Please let me know what you want to do.

What?! I didn't hear about that! Ulwarth? Nonsense!

I mean to say, no...that can't...happen...that's outside of his character.

Or, rather, what do you mean? Maybe it can happen, but...we've got to talk this over, at least a little bit.

And don't surprise me like that!

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

It shouldn't be a surprise. It's in the rpg thread. It's the general one I wrote trying to move the action along. I can make it Ulfast if you prefer, which would actually make more sense. But then, maybe Noinkling and billnsam would protest the plot twist itself. Waiting to hear back.....

[littlemanpoet]

It's in post # 181.

[Noinkling]

littlemanpoet & Folwren

This is what bill_n_sam, Pio, and I were working on:

That was wonderful! Mem is just so totally flustered! And this will play well into another plot development I'm working on with Celuien, where Ulfast wants Mem to come to a feast/entertainment being put on in honor of the elves and have her sing some sort of traditional song in praise of the Ulfings that she knows. (This is of course assuming that such a fete is going to take place ).

I had thought maybe some retainer(s) of Uldor, or maybe a drunken (?) Uldor himself, might try to get a little too friendly with Mem (just because she's blind and very vulnerable) and then an outraged Dag would intervene (to the great peril of himself ) I was hoping it could be Uldor because then Dag will pretty much have to throw in his lot with Ulfast, who is probably going to save him from being gutted by Uldor. Anyway, with this Falki development, it could be that Falki intervenes, or maybe they both could, and that would create some conflict in Grimr's family, as far as their "loyalty" to Uldor goes. all that being said just as a way to further develop all the infighting going on and how the commoners get dragged into it all.

Why don't we make it one of Uldor's retainers? Can you edit that lmp? Give the retainer a name. Either I or Pio will write a brief look back at the incident. I'll PM bill_n_sam and see if she will return to the game.

[littlemanpoet]

I'll change it any way the group wishes. I think Foley is going to have to decide on how Uldor, or any of his retainers, are used. As soon as this is all figured out, I'd be happy to edit that post as you wish.

[Folwren]

Well...do what you want with Uldor's retainers. lol. I'm not that protective. And I'm sorry if I appear to overly protective of any character...

I'd say make it a retainer. However, if it would work well for players for it to be Uldor, then I may think over it some more and decide in favor of it. But it's just so awful. Poor, little Mem. :(

If he thought he could get away with it without it being found out, perhaps he would do it. Otherwise...I don't think so. I'll have to think on it more. You tell me if it's of great importance to your plot ideas and I'll decide.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

I'm going to revise post #181 so that Ulfast is forward but no worse. Now that I think about it, I'd prefer not to do that plot twist in regard to Mem. Since there's a suitor that would go mad in rage and a brother in law that we could use better, I'll tone it down to Ulfast being just a little too familiar.

EDIT: the post is revised; no evil deed has been done, but it's still rather ominous, admittedly.

[piosenniel]

SAVE filled. :)

Grímr, Falarr, and Valr have joined in at the rear of the hunting party.

[Nogrod]

I updated myself with the story today. It looks good indeed!

So I'm just waiting for Child to write Fastarr in.

I quess I have said this before but the main problem of this RPG is that it's so plot-centered and as someone who only has minor character involved it's pretty hard to stick in other than writing how my character spent his day - which I've done a few times already. But let's hope it turns into some real action between the characters now as all the people are now gathering together for the hunt.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Nogrod,

I've just called on Embla to show her face and am waiting to respond to that. So I can't do anything to latch you in until the other post goes up.

I did have one idea. Let me send it to you in a pm and see what you think of it.

Child

[littlemanpoet]

Problem: plot centered rpg.
Solution: involve your character in the plot.

I had better write something for Lachrandir today. I wonder, would Thorn have something for him? :confused:

[Nogrod]

I'll be having Fastarr on Thorn's tail in an hour or two.

And if Broda is no one's character I'd be happy to have Fastarr to give him some hard time... :p

At least I couldn't find Broda from the character-list but maybe it has changed?

So anyone "owning" him?

Problem: plot centered rpg.
Solution: involve your character in the plot.I'm just trying to do it... :)

And btw. we (that is Khandr's servant Hugo & Fastarr) are going to offer Thorn a choice which is Khandr's bidding...

[Folwren]

Maybe I spelled his name wrong and perhaps it has two D's.... Anyway, he's on the character list somewhere. I'll write Captain of Despair and see where he is.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Foley, I have an easy solution to our problem about Brodda. You could edit your post and change the name of the person so that it's one of Uldor's (NPC) servants who goes after Thorn and not Brodda.


lmp, feel free to write for Thorn. Hugo who is Khandr's older servant (a small and skinny chap riding a great warhorse - he must be sight!) will catch him up and offer shelter in Khandr's residence. Feel free to write that as Hugo is a NPC. You may also write Fastarr to come in the scene panting from around the corner so we might then have a short discussion between the two.

Child, if there is something wrong with the content or tone of Khandr's doings in my post let me know and I'll change whatever needs to change.

Haa. Nice to be back. My post in in a minute.

[Folwren]

Hhhm. I could change it to an NPC. That would probably be best. If CoD does end up responding to my PM, I'll just give his character a lead in somehwere else.

So, go ahead and write as though the character were someone other than Brodda. Say his name is...Ruadan. I can't change it now, I've got to leave at once, but later today.

-- folwren

[Nogrod]

Say his name is...Ruadan.Ruadan he is then. If I'm able I'll write the scene a bit forwards with the confrontation between Fastarr and Ruadan yet today.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Nogrod,

Just read your post after I sent you the pm. It is fine! Very good indeed from Khandr's perspective.

Child

[Lalaith]

Very rough and ready post there. Had to rush it but thought it better than nothing...need to move the story along!

[littlemanpoet]

I'll try to put something together tonight.

[CaptainofDespair]

Well, since Folwren knows I'm around and somewhat/sort of able to play, I shall also let the rest of you know. There's no sense in keeping it secret.

Anywho, I will try to absorb recent roleplay goings-on and catch up as soon as possible. College and its research papers shall hold me back for this week, but after that I'll be somewhat free for a time (though, I do need to read a lot of things...).

-CoD

[Nogrod]

Good to hear from you CoD!

I think we should keep that guy sent to trail Thorn as Ruadan and not Brodda.

Foley's understanding of Brodda fits with how I read CoD having handled the character.So maybe we both (Foley and me) edit our posts a bit so that Uldor calls for Brodda to take care Thorn is caught and he gives the task to Ruadan who is his man. I could edit my post in a similar fashion and remove the sentence where it is said that Khandr knew the man who was running after Thorn.

Is that ok.?

[Folwren]

That sounds fine to me. I edited my post to make Brodda Ruadan, but it just didn't seem right htat Uldor should go immediately to this Ruadan fellow who I have never written about and have not developed in the slightest.

So, maybe I should go back and change my post to how it was originally?

Perhaps you, Nogrod, could make note in your post that Brodda went to get another man (Ruadan).

O-or...to thicken the plot even more, perhaps Brodda gets Ruadan to help him, and Brodda is still on Thorn's trail even after Fastarr has taken out Ruadan?

By the way, I'm going under the assumption that Fastarr doesn't kill Ruadan, he just knocks him out. You're leaving the actual kill to me and Uldor, right? (Gooolly, that sounds horrible!)

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

If Ruadan is Brodda's man and not Uldor's, then why is Ruadan's life in danger from Uldor? Wouldn't his life be in danger from Brodda? Because Uldor would hold Brodda responsible for his underling's failures, not the underling. So Brodda's life is in danger from Uldor, not Ruadan. Unless you make Ruadan one of the formerly unnamed retainers of Uldor.

[Folwren]

I would think that Ruadan would be in trouble with Uldor because, really, it was Uldor that he failed and not Brodda. Besides that, Uldor can't kill Brodda because Brodda lives.

And maybe, just maybe, Ruadan won't die, either. It highly depends on how things fold out.

-- Folwren

[Lalaith]

Any news of lovely Durelin, btw? How I reply to Khandr depends a bit how much of a chance I have of interacting with Jord...

[Folwren]

I haven't heard from her at all recently. Well...she did get on about two weeks ago (I think)...something like that, to say that she was sorry she was away but she planned to be able to write more consistantly than she had been. However, she hasn't seemed to have been on since and I really don't know where she is.

-- Folwren

[Mithalwen]

I have just returned from Scotland where I didn't even have a phone let alone net access and prior to that I had limited access and work problems. However I have settled in to a new assignment for the next couple of months and while it is a long way from home I should get more time online more often.

If you will forgive my neglect I will try to get my head around what is happening and post as much as I can henceforth - I didn't mean to abandon Tathren and the poor lad has a very short life expectancy anyway so I would like to see him through if that is possible. However if it is easier that I stay away, that is ok - I know I have technically forfeited him :( .

[Folwren]

No, no, no! Come back and welcome! By rights, I'm sure all of us, at some point, have forfeited all of our characters - perhaps Elempi excepted. :D

I'm glad you're back and I hope you had fun in Scotland.

-- Folwren

[Mithalwen]

It was pleasant and relaxing perhaps more than fun - but I got lots of fresh air & exercise and took lots of photos and all the rain was wonderful for my skin and hair.... :rolleyes:

Right will go and try and catch up...

[Nogrod]

A nice little mess that would have been cleared in a face to face discussion in under a minute but will take several days... :)

Here's what I suggest we could do as to have the less possible changes and to make it sound believable - in my view that is.

So Foley can leave her post basically as it is (was) where Uldor addresses Brodda to take care that the old man is caught. Foley can then decide whether to add a sentence where Brodda hands this mission over to his servant Ruadan standing by as Brodda still is a chieftain and running after gamlings in a crowd hardly is a work for a chieftain.

I can leave my post mainly as it is as Fastarr just notes that a man was sent after Thorn and I edit out the sentence where it is said Khandr knew the man running after Thorn.

This also allows CoD to come in without us setting him a definitive place and action and he can decide himself what Brodda will do - after ordering Ruadan to do his bidding that is.

What say you? It's the simplest way I think.

[Folwren]

That sounds fine to me, and the simplest, too.

Can't stay to explain some thoughts in my head. Just write, everyone. I've got to go now, but I may be back and might write a post later today, I don't know.

-- Folwren

[Folwren]

Captain, if you're anywhere around - it'd be pretty sweet if you could post presently. :)

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

I added a bit from Lachrandir's perspective after posting for Thorn, and Foley posted while I was editing. It doesn't appear to have affected anything.

[Nogrod]

lmp: I left it open for Thorn to either assign Fastarr to a job Thorn sees reasonable or to do as Fastarr himself wishes (which would mean he would get back to the hunt and try to save Khandr if he can disregarding the Song).

btw. is there already an idea how Khandr will die?

PS. Nice to see Ruadan back on his feet Foley!

[CaptainofDespair]

Captain, if you're anywhere around - it'd be pretty sweet if you could post presently. :)

-- Foley

I apologize, but as I stated earlier, I'm having quite the busy week at the moment with papers. I will try to post as soon as possible, but that will likely not be until Monday...maybe Sunday...at the earliest.

[Folwren]

I apologize, but as I stated earlier, I'm having quite the busy week at the moment with papers. I will try to post as soon as possible, but that will likely not be until Monday...maybe Sunday...at the earliest.

That's perfectly alright, Captain. It occurred to me that by the time Ruadan had gotten back to Brodda, the hunt should already have started off - so it's fine if you don't write for a couple days yet.

I think we're kind of waiting on Child. Sorry. :o

-- Fol

[littlemanpoet]

Regarding Khandr's impending death, I have had Thorn suggest to Fastarr that it will be murder. I think that follows in line with what Child has been planning. If so, who is the murderer? My thought, in keeping with how Foley is portraying Uldor and Ulwarth, is that Ulfast is the most evil of the three brothers, and also the most shifty, if you know what I mean. Uldor is a bit less subtle and forthright, for all his naked ambition and willfulness. Ulfast is, by contrast, more of a snake. My thought is that he will make as if to befriend Khandr on the hunt and stay near him from the beginning, engaging him in seemingly friendly banter (perhaps not unlike that between Legolas and Gimli at Helm's Deep - how ironic!), and will do him in some place and time while others are some distance away - he will think that he has done his foul deed in secret, but does not know that Fastarr is eye witness. At least, that's one suggestion. Thoughts?

[Lalaith]

Originally, the idea was that Jord was going to do him in.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Child hasn't written because she's waiting on Durelin.

I just wrote a note to Folwren and Lalaith about this. Looks as if I should have checked the thread first!

The original plan was definitely Jorda. We had an elaborate subplot built up at the very beginning of the game that had the approval of the founder. That's why Embla was sent to spy on Jorda. However, I don't think it's a good idea to have it done by someone who is not actively writing at the moment. I know Durelin is in her first year of college and she must be up to her eyeballs in work. I am writing her one last time, but if we don't hear back I think we need to go ahead.

Folwren had suggested Uldor as the culprit. I think that would be fine. But if you'd rather hash it out here among various candidates, that is alright too. I'm willing to be done in by whoever you think is best.

I am putting up a save and will fill it in as soon as Lalaith confirms what I've writter her in the note....

[Nogrod]

lmp: Check what I wrote for Thorn and tell me if something is not the way it should be.

And sorry, it would have been nice to continue that discussion for a round or two but I'm afraid I don't have too much time on these last days before my trip (as I've said I will be off to Cuba from Saturday morning onwards for a week). So I felt a need to break this situation down. I will have time to make any corrections though.

I'll be back to come in with the actual happenings in the hunt after Nov. 25th.

[littlemanpoet]

lmp: Check what I wrote for Thorn and tell me if something is not the way it should be.

And sorry, it would have been nice to continue that discussion for a round or two but I'm afraid I don't have too much time on these last days before my trip (as I've said I will be off to Cuba from Saturday morning onwards for a week). So I felt a need to break this situation down. I will have time to make any corrections though.

I'll be back to come in with the actual happenings in the hunt after Nov. 25th.

THe words you have given Thorn cannot be improved upon. Thanks. :)

[Durelin]

Erm...heyyy... ><

I have a few days off for thanksgiving break (possibly more if I decide to skip the last couple of days before break...), so I can try and get posts up then, but I see no reason for you guys to rely on me, so...

I do like being evil...and I miss writing for fun. :(

Anyway, I'll do my best if everyone wants to go with the original plans, but I'm fine with anything. At this point you all certainly have the right to do whatever you want with my character, too, so I really thank you for waiting so long to hear at least a word from me...

Edit: After the break I'm afraid I will be disappearing again, though, for three weeks, because those are the last three weeks of the semester...3 term papers + exams will unfortunately have to be my first priority. But, who knows, maybe I'll have more time than I expect...? Heh. I am about 3/4s of the way done with one paper...about...

[Lalaith]

Evil temptress! You're back!
Eggssselent.....:)

[Folwren]

Only with excellent spelt correctly. ;)

Hey, if you've got time, we'd love to have you back. Do write for evil Jord and we'll try to get this murder completed before you leave again. I'd prefer that, now that I've got Fastarr spying on me. :mad: <- Grumpy Uldor.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Only with excellent spelt correctly.:D Hee hee! I almost missed that bit of funny, Foley. :D

Durelin, I've kinda taken over Ulfast and have written in that Ulfast has SECRET "kahoots" with Jord that he is confident Uldor doesn't know about. Jord may know something better, or not, as you prefer, but I thought I'd give you a heads up.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Durelin,

So good to see you!

Send me a pm to let me know exactly how you plan to do this, and what I should have Khandr do.... :(

[Child of the 7th Age]

Lalaith - I used your character to do a set-up question. If there's any problem with that, let me know.

[Folwren]

Child,

Are things figured out? Can we set out on the hunt? Or what needs to happen now before we start?

-- Folwren

[Child of the 7th Age]

I see no reason why the hunt can't set out. It's my understanding that Durelin will go ahead and do the scenes for Jord to murder Khandr, hopefully this week. That's one of the reasons I had Khandr go off on his own. It will make it easier for Jord.

[Lalaith]

Either Durelin or NOggie around to talk to Embla in the near future?

[Child of the 7th Age]

Durelin,

Your pm box is full so I'll put this here.....

Any chance of Jord doing in Khandr in Treachery before you get back to school? I've purposely made him go off on his own so you're welcome to use him as you need. If you want to mention that he is trying to spy on Jord, that would be alright too.....

If you need a set up post, let me know. If your schedule prevents you from writing, just let us know.

[Durelin]

I'm sorry...again...repeatedly...endlessly...

It's just not working right now. When I have free time I don't have the energy much less the inspiration to write...or do much of anything. I'm very sorry, but it seems I need to sort more things out than just school work right now.

I will try to be back...really back...soon, but...please go ahead without me...and please, anyone can use/take over Jord/Thuringwethil as you'd like.

I should have simply posted months ago that I was unable to be active, and just let you know that rather than have kept you waiting, as Child has most patiently asked.

I'm very sorry.

[littlemanpoet]

Hmm.... I'm willing to give Jord a go, but am most willing to step aside if another would like to volunteer.

[Folwren]

Oh dear. That is unfortunate, Durelin, and I am more than sorry to hear it. But, what must be must and a cracked egg cannot be mended.

Elempi, I am not willing to take Jord. Uldor is difficult enough for me. ;) I'll try to think of someone that can join the game and that would make another player which would be great...

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

The things started to look like they were unfolding at last but it seems I have lost nothing during my trip... :(

Okay. I hope you Foley get someone to play Jord or we do come up with a different solution to our problem here. I just don't think there is any reason for me to doublepost in the thread so I'll wait and see what you others come up with.

I hope to see you Dury back in action also here! But first things first.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Dury - We will miss you and hope things are going well.

If Imp is willing to play Jord, we could certainly do that.

[Nogrod]

Since Imp is willing to play Jord, shall we do that?Why not? With this pace we'd need all the effort to get us forwards.

Lalaith: I could have Fastarr meet Embla. He would be in a hurry to look after his lord and that might create some nice tension there and maybe we could be creating some new possibilities for Embla as well. I'd like to see you write the introduction to the scene so just write that Fastarr comes with full gallop and Embla manages to stop him... and whatever she then does. I'll answer that post asap. after it is posted.

[littlemanpoet]

Before I even begin to try to wrap my brain around Jord/Thuringwethil, I'd be interested to find out who Foley is thinking of to fill the role. I think there may be some clever-good writers out there who could do the trick and help enliven this rpg with some of their new spice.

Perhaps Encaitare? Diamond?

[CaptainofDespair]

I'm quite sorry, everyone!

I had meant to get around to working on things for Treachery last week, but a resurgence of an illness I acquired some weeks ago has stalled any progress towards that. I have three large papers coming up (one due Dec. 4th and the other two afterwards), as well as the run-of-the-mill finals in the next three weeks.

As such, if an action requires Brodda, feel free to "use" him as needed until I can return. I'll try to get around to a post or two if possible in that span, but with the nastiness of this illness and the upcoming work getting to me, I may not be able to.

Perhaps after this spat of sickness and work I might be able to get around to wrapping up Brodda in regards to setting up his end-game connection with Morgoth.

And again, I apologize for my prolonged absence.

-CoD

[Folwren]

I have no one in particular in mind, Elempi. I would like to find somebody and suggestions are welcome. I'll ask those two you mentioned. I'll check how often they're on, too.

Tell you what - let's move the game forward - the hunt, that is - without worrying about Khamir or Jord. Uldor will start the hunt thinking, "The imbecile can catch up in his own precious time." Nogrod and Lalaith, you do what you're planning.

In the mean time, I'll search for someone to play Jord.

How does that sound?

Captain, I'm sorry you were sick. We'll use Brodda as little as possible but as much as necessary so he's not cut out altogether. I hope to see you join us again soon.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Was not the hunt Khandr's idea? How can he just go wandering off without consequence? Surely this is not in keeping with the way things would have worked? Sorry for bringing this up late, but it's been niggling at me for days.

[Folwren]

It's not in the way of keeping, but if Khandr gets murdered before they even leave the settlement, I don't see a hunt happening at all. I thought we were going to go off and Khandr was going to killed during the hunt - in the heat of it. :confused:

I don't know how else to move the game forward, but I don't mind stalling a bit longer (I've been so ill-organized and busy, I feel like a chicken without a head) to figure it out.

Child, what do you think?

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

It's not in the way of keeping, but if Khandr gets murdered before they even leave the settlement, I don't see a hunt happening at all.Unless his body is found afterward. But why would the hunt go on at all without Khandr since he is its host?

[Lalaith]

Noggie, I'm on the case. There'll be something up at the weekend.

[Nogrod]

Noggie, I'm on the case. There'll be something up at the weekend.Great! Do not be afraid to use Fastarr. I think you have a picture already and he's quite a straightforward guy anyway. :)

[Child of the 7th Age]

Was not the hunt Khandr's idea? How can he just go wandering off without consequence? Surely this is not in keeping with the way things would have worked? Sorry for bringing this up late, but it's been niggling at me for days.

Yes, I see there is a problem. However, my character has a major dilemma. How can Khandr remain where he is when he believes he will be murdered and the hunt would seem to be the easiest way to do something like that? If you had just been told of your own death and you truly believed what the person was saying, perhaps because you had already sensed that things were not right, would you docilely go forward with the hunt when you think there may be an ambush waiting around the next tree? I would not, even if I was the individual who had arranged the event. When I set up the hunt, I had no idea that someone was going to tell Khandr he was about to bite the dust. This was simply presented in the story as a fait accompli and now my character has to react to what happened. (We had initially planned that Khandr's death would drop down out of the blue with Jord as the killer.) Sometimes plans are "rearranged" in real life by things happening out of the blue, and the same holds true for rpgs.

Khandr believes what was said to him. He is certainly not feeling too kindly about Uldor and crew since he thinks one of them is about to murder him. Would you really have him stay and wait to be murdered? That doesn't make sense to me. At the very least, he is going to go back to his first wife and speak with her, just as he has spoken with his second wife.

As to what to do with the hunt, that is up to you. If it's easier to deal with, I will be happy to have Khandr speak with one of his servants to carry a message to his hosts and apologize that something unexpected has occurred so that he is drawn away and will rejoin them later at the after-hunt "brunch" :D which he will have waiting in the courtyard at the front of his house. I am putting up a save. Let me know if you can live comfortably with that.

[Folwren]

I can live comfortably with that. In all honestly, host or not, Uldor wants to go on the hunt, now that he's all prepared for it, and if Khandr sends someone to say that he can't come but go ahead, Uldor will do it.

Sorry, Elempi. :p

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

No need for "sorries". The explanation from Child makes a lot of sense; so much sense that imho it would make a cool rpg post to see Khandr figure this out on the run.

If Uldor is fine with just going on the hunt with absolutely no explanation from the host of the hunt for his absence, that's Uldor's business. Ulfast, however, not smelling murder in the air, and hoping to use some kind of potential alliance with Khandr to his advantage against Uldor, will not stand for it and will send a trusted retainer to Khandr's house to find out what's up. I'll post that up when I get a chance.

To Lachrandir, this all looks like petty human nonsense and he cares not. :p

[Nogrod]

Ulfast, however, not smelling murder in the air, and hoping to use some kind of potential alliance with Khandr to his advantage against Uldor, will not stand for it and will send a trusted retainer to Khandr's house to find out what's up.:eek:
That's bad indeed!

But good. Makes the story a bit more complicated.

Now this only makes me wonder whether Fastarr should see that retainer and get suspicious. If he'd see it while he's still having a meeting with Embla somewhere between Khandr's house and the fields it would be stuff for a schitzophrenic post: to find and protect Khandr (who may be dead anyway), to go after the other retainer or to stay with Embla and advance an affair...

Poor guy. ;)

[Noinkling]

Pio

So, I've filled my SAVE (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=535297&postcount=197) and got us to Dag's house. I've heard nothing back from bill_n_sam about whether she will be continuing to write in the game.

Shall we just carry her characters for now? I'd like to advance the little part of the storyline we were developing.

I'll leave it to you to decide what Dulaan gave Fálki and to whom and how he presents it. :p

[piosenniel]

Alright, that sounds like a good plan. I'll try to get a post up tomorrow.

hmmmmm......now what has Granny D given Fálki? We wonders, my precious.....

~*~ Pio

[littlemanpoet]

Hmmm.... I am reminded (by looking at the rpg thread) that I have a SAVED post waiting to be written. I have not yet done so because I'm waiting for Child to write hers first. Is it true, Child, that you are waiting for someone to write Jord's character in order for you to write Khandr? Or is there something else keeping you from writing your post that I'm not aware of?

[Lalaith]

Nogrod, my encounter with Fastarr is now up. You *are* in a stable, aren't you? That's what it looked like from what I could make out..."

[Nogrod]

Nice one Lalaith!

Let's see what I can answer to that...

...and how we do resolve all the traffic that seems to have now moved into the immediate surroundings of Khandr's residence instead of the fields and woods outside the city... :)

[Nogrod]

You *are* in a stable, aren't you? That's what it looked like from what I could make out..."I kind of wrote that Fastarr rode out from the stable with fury in his eyes but that's okay if he is still in the stable. I can go and edit that...

With that he turned and ran to the stables. Soon enough Leafeye galloped from the stables carrying Fastarr whose eyes now had an intense and focused gleam in them. The rider and the horse headed back towards the fields like fire was chasing their tail.:D

[Lalaith]

No, better that I edit so I meet you on the way out from the stable.

The prophecy is nicked and tweaked from the Voluspa, btw. I'd hate to be accused of plagiarism....

[littlemanpoet]

The poetry's a treat. :) Maybe I ought to just post up and not wait for Child.... no more tonight, getting too late. Maybe tomorrow...

[Child of the 7th Age]

My save is filled.

Everything is a bit crazy here. Hanukah started tonight. Plus, for several weeks, one of my cats has been fighting a bacteria (similar to staph) that is stubbornly resistent to antibiotics. I have been nursing him and going to the vet every other day for his bandage changes. He unexpectedly had to have a second surgery last Tuesday and must have a third one tomorrow. :( They are trying to save his leg.

I am a real cat person. (Cats are the one thing Tolkien had all wrong!) We are hopeful now that he will be alright. If so, we will gratefully rename him "Peg Leg Pete" as one front leg will be minus a large wad of fur and he will sport a stylish scar.

[Lalaith]

Child...great post...except you got us mixed up. I'm Embla, your proper missus is Briga.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Giggle....giggle. I will fix. This having two wives isn't all it's cracked up to be!

[littlemanpoet]

What needs to happen next?

[Folwren]

I need to post, that's what. I'll do it this week, if at all possible. Life has been crazy as of late, and I apologize. I'll post soon, I hope.

EDIT: I did it tonight, amazingly enough. I hope the post is alright.

Elempi, you can post Ulfast sending someone off to see about Khandr if you wish. Your messenger can probably catch up with the hunting party.

And we're hunting wild boar, right? I don't think it's ever been specified, but I always wanted to hunt a wild boar, and this is a fantastic chance.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

Then wild boar it is.

Ulfast will send a messenger who gets intercepted by Khandr's messenger explaining Khandr's absence. Doesn't seem like much of a post; I'll just have Ulfast on the receiving end and see what he thinks and does about it.

EDIT: after reading Foley's post, a messenger from Ulfast seems pointless. I'll just post something or other at some point.

[Nogrod]

lmp & Child & Lalaith: Now correct if I'm wrong or agree and offer ideas if I'm right.

The situation concerning the Borrim at late in something like a chronological order as I see it...

1. Thorn intercepts Khandr and gives his predicament.

2. Khandr turns back and advices Hunta to go and warn the Borrim and Fastarr to cover Thorn (this all in the middle of the field where everyone's waiting for the hunt to start)

3. Uldor gives Brodda the errand of capturing the old man who in turn sends Ruadan after him "whatever the cost".

4. The two (Fastarr & Ruadan) race after Thorn while Khandr sees Embla and relieves her form the marriage.

5. Fastarr catches Ruadan by surprise by the gate and knocks him out. He has told Hugo, who he has met on the way and given his horse to, to take care of Thorn with Grogr and to hide him in Khandr's residence.

6. Khandr leaves both the hunt and Embla towards his residence.

7. Fastarr reaches the residence by foot and discusses with Thorn & Hugo. Orders Hugo & Grogr to shelter Thorn, leaves with his horse to find Khandr in the fields (in the hunt to protect him if he could).

8. Khandr arrives to his residence (there must be at least two reasonable roads to the fields so that he has not met Fastarr on his way). Gives orders to Briga.

9. At the field: Embla sees Fastarr riding to the fields and rides to meet him & the messenger Khandr has sent reaches Uldor and the hunt begins.

Right?

Now concerning Khandr and Thorn... should they meet? They surely would as the latter has been "hid" into Khandr's residence and he has just come back there...

Fastarr must have failed to meet Khandr whom he's looking for to save his life if he could! They just were about the residence about a minute from each other (when Fastarr left and Khandr came in)! Fastarr will be bewildered not finding Khandr at the fields - to see the hunt begin and Embla to stray him with stuff he finds romantic more than good vs. evil - at least to begin with (that's up to Lalith as well as what comes of it)...

How is Ruadan's message been received? Would they be able to pick Fastarr as the troublesome one who needs a lesson / deserves death?

What would Embla do to keep Fastarr to herself and will she be ready to let go of the anxious retainer?

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So back again after a period of too much work (and a WW-game to mod... which made my sparetime even more scarce :)).

[littlemanpoet]

Seems like you have it down pretty well, Noggie. Perhaps Fastarr leaves by a different way as he figures the hunt has now begun and the hunting party will have headed west, so he takes the western way out of the village instead of heading north into the village. Or whatever directions you have in your head for this. This whole thing sort of maps out for me that the Borrim are at the southern edge of the village. Don't really know why. Probably makes more sense for them to be north, since they come from the north. Whatever.

Khandr and Thorn can meet up again. After which I think it would be cool if Thorn and Thuringwethil pass by each other and exchange a few words....

[Child of the 7th Age]

I'll do a post then where Khandr blunders into Thorn within the house.

Littlemanpoet....are you posting for Thorn or do we "carry" him?

Would anyone have an objection if Khandr went over to the great hall of the lords of the Ulfings and snooped around, perhaps encountering something which raises his suspicions concerning Jord? This would not be anything explicit....just something the woman possesses that would signify she's a "bad apple." If someone has other ideas, let me know.

[littlemanpoet]

Littlemanpoet....are you posting for Thorn or do we "carry" him?I'll post for Thorn.

[Nogrod]

Save filled...

We have a kind of plan now where Embla and Fastarr are going to form a dynamic duo who try to work things out together in the middle of chaos and evil breaking loose.

Now the question becomes where is Khandr going to be murdered and should the two hit the place in time or should they be late?

Anyway it looks like we should post something between the two before going to Khandr's residence as Khandr and Thorn should meet there first and Khandr needs to leave before the two of our characters pop in.

Your turn Lalaith! :D

[littlemanpoet]

So the order of posting for the very near future appears to be:

Lalaith for Embla
Child for Khandr
elempi for Thorn
Jord?

then the hunt

anything else? I s'pose the hunt can be going on at the same time, right?

[Lalaith]

All looking good, chaps. But before I post I need to know who is going to murder Khandr and when.

[Nogrod]

But before I post I need to know who is going to murder Khandr and when.No you don't... :D

I mean just go on with it... We can post once or twice before that thing is settled.

We can keep it between Embla and Fastarr as long as any clearance will come forwards - and we can jump to Khandr's residence as soon as Child writes him off there...

Let's not hinder this with the absence of a general plan...

The plan will come.

And it might be as unforeseen as Embla and Fastarr forming a pair to fight for the good when the evill suddenly falls over the Ulfing settling... That I think was something "providence" gave us. It's too good an idea we could have come up with ourselves. :)

So let's just keep on writing and see what happens...

[Lalaith]

Sorry guys, I've been too hassled to think.
I'll put something up in the next day or two.

[Lalaith]

Post now written and awaiting Nog´s approval...
Sorry for the delay.

[Folwren]

Hiya, everyone. I've PMed two people about possibly taking Jord's character. I'm hoping I'll hear back from one of them sometime shortly. :)

In the mean time, the hunt should be gotten under way...

Pio, are you still planning on finishing that part of the post? The hunting part in the last post you posted on the game thread?

I will see about posting possibly later this afternoon. Right now, I'm actually in the middle of figuring out a new program...heh...bad me for taking a BD break in the midst of that.

[piosenniel]

I can do that later today. It will only be a general sort of picture of the hunt.

One of the more principal players can certainly carry on now if they they wish.

[piosenniel]

OK, the hunt's afoot.....or ahorse, rather :p

Do with the flushed out boar as you wish. :)

~*~ Pio

[Child of the 7th Age]

Littlemanpoet -

Are you going to handle Thorn in the next post? Khandr is about to go out snooping at the palace and who knows what else..... If you need me to handle this post differently, let me know.

[littlemanpoet]

Sorry if I'm being dense, but I'm confused.

"Who goes there?" - is it supposed to be Thorn who is "going there?" or is that Thuringwethil? Because this is not in the palace but in Khandr's own quarters, right?

So if Thorn is supposed to be snooping around in the palace, who's there for him to snoop while the three brothers are out?

[Child of the 7th Age]

Sorry, Littlemanpoet. A typo in the discussion thread, where I put in Thorn's name in the second sentence instead of Khandr. The actual post is correct, and I've changed the one name above.

In my post, Khandr is still at home and runs into Thorn. Khandr is about to set off for the palace to do some snooping but hasn't yet left. That was my understanding of the situation from Nogrod's earlier summary. Please let me know if this is a problem.

[Lalaith]

Could someone clear something up for me?
I was under the impression that Fastarr and Embla (currently outside Khandr HQ) would come in and find Khandr dead. So someone (Thorn? Jord?) is about to kill him, inside his own house.

Did I get it wrong? Is Khandr going to the palace now?

*confused*