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Durelin
03-03-2008, 11:43 AM
So apparently Menel is the scapegoat toDay...is there anything more we can do to fix this?

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:43 AM
We just lost the game I guess. I bet Durelin's a wolf alongside with Nerwen and Volo and they just did it. *le sigh*

edit: xed with Durelin

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:44 AM
No, Nogrod could be a wolf as well. Or whatever. What was the rule if two people reach the same vote count?

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 11:44 AM
Well, you're wrong.

EDIT: X'd with Lommy.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:45 AM
Well, you're wrong.Granted, if you and Volo are wolves together you are evil... but the way you jumped on Rikae's vote imples that at least one of you is guilty...

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
No, Nogrod could be a wolf as well. Or whatever. What was the rule if two people reach the same vote count?

I think the mod does a coin toss.

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
Volo looks clearly evil, so Menel's clearly not. The only other choice we have since Menel's vote is Nogrod, and so the only chance we have is if Nerwen and Nogrod are the remaining wolves with Volo, in which case the remaining three innocents can vote for Nogrod at the last minute and lynch him.
Menel, why did you vote for Nogrod so quickly, when Volo looks so much like he's gloating?

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
Not anymore, now that you've voted for Nogrod. He's not going to vote for himself. :rolleyes:Now I need to count this...

I'm innocent so Menel's vote is one down to us.

Menel has three votes so there might be three wolves trying a pretty daring tactics... alright, I'm not too convinced about that idea myself either (even if I find both Nerwen and Volo from my list of suspicion).

But if there is even one innocent there (and Menel is innocent) it means we've lost this.

But if Menel is a wolf? And those voting for him are innocents? Then we have hope still...

OMG.

So apparently Menel is the scapegoat toDay...is there anything more we can do to fix this?We'll lynch him and hope for the best team to win! :D

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
I checked. It will be chosen randomly. So do we stand a chance of winning even if Menel's innocent?

I'd like to quote Monty Pythn and say "my brain hurts"... wait a minute, I'll think this through and be back, I can't concentarte right now...

edit: xed with the three last posts

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:48 AM
I think the mod does a coin toss.

Isn't it the last to reach the count who's lynched?

EDIT: X'd with last Lommy, clearly

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 11:48 AM
++ Menel

May the force be with us.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:49 AM
Somehow Nogrod looks terribly gloating as well... :(

edit: xed with wolfgrod

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:50 AM
We'll lynch him and hope for the best team to win! :D

Hm, how about we lynch YOU and hope the same?

I'll never finish that paper... :rolleyes:

Durelin
03-03-2008, 11:51 AM
Ah, here's what Agan has to say about same number of votes:

No multiple lynches. In case of a tie, the lynchee will be chosen randomly.

Well...might be an apt way to end this insanity, leaving ourselves to chance, but not preferable...

Volo's feigned regret that Rikae did not vote for me is odd, considering it was just one vote. Nerwen's aggression towards Rikae also seems fake...

If Menel was really a wolf I would have expected him to hold off on his vote, but maybe I'm really blind...

Edit: Crossed with everyone since...Lommy's post #505

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:51 AM
Now you Nerwen, Volo and Nogrod may congratulate yourselves. After all, Nogrod was the only one I caught and it took me quite long to realise his role.

edit: xed with Rikae and Dury

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:52 AM
Oh maybe I was wrong. Maybe Rikae is a blatant liar and I'm wrong about either Nerwen or Volo. But I don't suspect Durelin anymore, for some reason.... :rolleyes:

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:52 AM
Lommy, if Nerwen's a wolf we have a 50/50 chance.
*kicks self for not voting Nogrod*
Durelin, Mith, Lommy, what are you waiting for?

Durelin
03-03-2008, 11:53 AM
If Lommy, Mith, and I all vote for Nogrod, will that tie him up with Menel?

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:54 AM
I suggest that I, Durelin and Mith all vote Nogrod. That way it's going to be fifty-fifty, at least, unless Nogrod is innocent too and I'm been so fooled that I feel like skipping Legate's game and the DW2 after all. ;)

Does this suggestion make sense? Are there any better ones?

edit: xed with Rikae and Durelin

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:54 AM
Ok, it's plain to me (and should be to anyone) that Nogrod and Volo are wolves. We've either lost (if Nerwen is innocent) or will win if the coin flip is in our favor (we'll know all the wolves' identities.)
Mith, Durelin, Lommy, please, vote for Nogrod....

EDIT: X'd with last two posts, clearly.
(Still, I fear Nerwen's not a wolf, since I doubt Noggie and Volo would dare be so obvious if they hadn't won already)

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:56 AM
*kicks Rikae too* :p ;)

But there's still an hour and more to go, right?

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:56 AM
Where is Mith, anyway?

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 11:56 AM
Rikae -> Menel
Volo -> Menel
Nerwen -> Menel
Menel -> Nogrod (Menel 3, Nogrod 1)
Nogrod -> Menel (Menel 4, Nogrod 1)

not voted: Mith, Lommy, Dury.

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 11:56 AM
And get on with it! Time's running out.

EDIT: x'd with Rikae, Lommy, Rikae again and Nogrod.

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:57 AM
*kicks Rikae too* :p ;)

But there's still an hour and more to go, right?

Well, if you're a wolf, please do us all a favor and seal your victory - but if you really drag this out another hour, I'll hold you responsible for my flunking out of college.

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 11:58 AM
Someone's loving the suspense around here... :eek:

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 11:58 AM
Well, if you're a wolf, please do us all a favor and seal your victory - but if you really drag this out another hour, I'll hold you responsible for my flunking out of college.and my not read exams tomorrow at school as well...

Rikae
03-03-2008, 11:59 AM
Durelin, same goes for you.
And if Mith is innocent and fails to vote -- or if she's a wolf -- she's made an enemy for life. :p

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 11:59 AM
*kicks Rikae too* :p ;)

But there's still an hour and more to go, right?

Er.. yes, you're right. I was thinking Daylight Savings was just ended and the DL about to fall.:o

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 11:59 AM
Well, if you're a wolf, please do us all a favor and seal your victory - but if you really drag this out another hour, I'll hold you responsible for my flunking out of college.:D:D Sure I would do no such thing.

I was just wondering if there is no other way.

++NOGROD

Mith and Durelin, darlings, be innocents and vote him and let the chance be on our side...

Yet I'm afraid we've lost already. The wolves are pretty much known and out there, they would not dare to be if they had to last for any more Days.

edit: xed with a couple of people, don't even remember which ones, all the posts look the same at this phase

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:01 PM
Nerwen, what are you?

I am, of course, a very stupid ordo. :rolleyes:

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:01 PM
Someone's loving the suspense around here... :eek:
Actually I am. :D Sadly you wolves won already, or so I fear. :(

edit: xed with Rikae

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:02 PM
Rikae -> Menel
Volo -> Menel
Nerwen -> Menel
Menel -> Nogrod (Menel 3, Nogrod 1)
Nogrod -> Menel (Menel 4, Nogrod 1)
Lommy -> Nogrod (Menel 4, Nogrod 2)

Not voted: Mith & Dury.

Okay darlings, come forwards so that this can be settled as there clearly is now but two choices.

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:02 PM
Dury? Mith?
Out with it - which of you is a wolf?

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:03 PM
Dureliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin? Where did you disappear to? Come here and vote Nogrod now unless you are a wolf! :eek:

edit: xed with Rikae

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:03 PM
Haha, I probably shouldn't, but I love this. :D

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:03 PM
This is even worse, since it looks like I had two of the wolves pegged and voted for neither... :eek:

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:04 PM
What has happened .. I have been at work Rikae... some of us have to ;)

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 12:05 PM
Oh great, now she's a wolf.

EDIT: X'd with Rikae and Durelin.

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:05 PM
I will be voting and hopefully as an ordo ..this will work?

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:06 PM
Mith! All the wolves have voted Menel and we'll die certainly unless both you and Dury vote Nogrod when it's up to Mrs Fortuna... And don't you dare say you're a wolf! :eek:

edit: xed with Mith and Nerwen

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:06 PM
I will be voting and hopefully as an ordo ..this will work?Just fine Mith.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:07 PM
I will be voting and hopefully as an ordo ..this will work?What? It won't work unless you vote Nogrod and even that is not enough to our victory: Dury has to vote him too and fortune has to be on our side.

edit: xed with a disgusting furry creature who tries to cause confusion... don't listen to him

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 12:08 PM
Hurry up, Mith.

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:08 PM
Aren't you Lommy trying to pressure Mith to make her vote the way you want it?

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:08 PM
Well, I don't think Nerwen is, anyway -- it's Durelin -- or so it appears...

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:09 PM
Aren't you Lommy trying to pressure Mith to make her vote the way you want it?

Hush, you beastly thing.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:09 PM
I'm hopeful: maybe the wolves blundered in their haste and forgot about the coin-toss rule and Mith and Dury are both innocent and we have a chance...?

Yet I'm afraid I'm too much an optimist.

edit: xed with Nerwie, Noggie and 2x Rikkie

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Please, I have to seriously beg you (Durelin and Mith) to make your votes now, and not drag this out. I can't sit here and wait, and I can't tear myself away... this goes way beyond WW and I will be furious -- in RL -- with you if you don't.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Aren't you Lommy trying to pressure Mith to make her vote the way you want it?Of course I am... I'm trying to convince her of the only way we can win. You on the other hand look like just giving a fellow guidance... I can't believe Mith's a wolf after all... :(

edit: xed with Rikae

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Of course you realize that unless both Durelin and Mith are innocent this is hopeless?

EDIT: X'd since Rikae at #547.

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Hurry up, Mith.

So Nerwen, the truly sane and serene .. I am to vote Noggin?

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:12 PM
Not to mention this is, absolutely, my last WW game. Twice now it has seriously interfered with my real life.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:12 PM
Durelin, if you're a wolf and vote Menel but we get Nogrod lynched instead, you're going to look awfully bad toMorrow... so in any case it's in your interests to vote him.

edit: xed with Nerwen, Mith and Rikae

Durelin
03-03-2008, 12:13 PM
Sorry, I hadn't eaten since early this morning and was dying...

And now I am back to apologize again.

++Menel

Sorry for keeping you from your paper, Rikae. :(

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:13 PM
Of course you realize that unless both Durelin and Mith are innocent this is hopeless?

Of course, they're only both innocent if you're a wolf -- you could just tell us your role (since it's all decided toDay anyway)...

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:14 PM
Rikae don't you dare... :mad: :D :)

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:14 PM
note: a Finnish semi-swear word existed here as an exclamation of annoyance for 13 minutes then I deleted it because it was quite stupid to put it in there in the first place... ;)

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:15 PM
OK, so Durelin and Nogrod were wolves indeed.

*looks for a window to jump out of*

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:15 PM
Sorry but I don't have a clue what is going on and it is now too late?

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:15 PM
Not to mention this is, absolutely, my last WW game. Twice now it has seriously interfered with my real life.Oh please Rikae... This game tends to do it but it's fun anyway.

Ahh... Thanks Dury!

And you were just wonderful mates!!!

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:15 PM
Sorry I'll edit it away in minutes, it's a Finnish word for something this forum would censor. :D

Argharghargh. It was too close.

Volo
03-03-2008, 12:16 PM
Rikae, you got me to put Volo further down my suspect list– and you just made this huge case for voting Menel!

That post of Volo's does look awfully like a gloat, now that you mention it... Oh dear. I think I might have just done something very unfortunate.

If I'd have been gloating, then there wouldn't have been a chance to lynch me anyway, because I would have been a Wolf and thus a winner, because thus Menel would have been Innocent.

Hope that he's not Innocent. Though I don't believe we could really win even if Menel is a Wolf. We would need to survive still two Days by the method of the coin flip, if you get my point.

Xing with everything since #508 because at least there you are making fools of yourselves. :/

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:17 PM
++Nogrod

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:17 PM
It doesn't matter Mith as Dury was a wolf. Well, at least I can claim catching her and Nogrod, although I was not the only one to do so.

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:17 PM
Congratulations, Durelin, Nogrod & Volo.
:mad:

I can't believe I caught two wolves and voted for neither. Well, that has to be the worst game I have ever played, and the worst village performance I have ever witnessed. Shoot me now.

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 12:18 PM
Rikae, I did mention I was going to kill you, didn't I?

Perhaps I should have said I was going to...

EAT YOU!:D:D:D

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:18 PM
So Nerwen's a wolf too? You were very good then.

Now, tell us Mr Volo what would you have done in our stead? Why o why did you vote so hastily if you were not a wolf?

Durelin
03-03-2008, 12:18 PM
Nerwen's the one that really needs to be congratulated.

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:19 PM
Oh I am hopeless. I had decided Dury creeped me out at lunchtime nad thought Nogrod most likely to be keeping me alive...

Sorry .... take this as my official retirement from WW. I am rubbish and it deranges me..... (mainly in the French sense of the word).

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Bah.
Well, at least I didn't defend a Volowolf.

Volo
03-03-2008, 12:21 PM
Paska.

:p

This is quite amusing I must say, especially as I was right about the Wolves at least sometimes.

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:21 PM
Oh please Rikae... This game tends to do it but it's fun anyway.

No really, I'm serious. If it were alcohol, it would be time to join AA... and besides, I'm bad at it.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:21 PM
I already kicked you Rikae, so I won't shoot you. It probably does not comfort you at all, but at least I was as confused as you were (although I never accused a certain person called Lommy at any phase :p).

Rikae, please take the stance I took: laugh at the general poorness of the villagers and the absurdity of the whole game and rejoice that you caught Durelin and Nogrod. It feels nicer that way. :D

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:22 PM
I must say that most of the times I've been a wolf it has been quite unpleasant. I have always loved the role of the ordo - or that of the cobbler!

But this was just phenomenal! Nerwen and Dury were just great! *bows down*

And yes we took a pile of risks as we went forwards with our kills fex. but in the end they paid off and made the game just totally nerve-wrecking! :cool:

Sorry to gloat but it was so close indeed toDay...

And even if you ordos might disagree right now I must say that the capability of the innocents to make conclusions is slightly better in a game with no gifteds. You were so near so many times!

Kudos especially to Rikae, Lommy, Volo and Menel for great spotting!

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:24 PM
I wouldn't be dissuaded only by a lost game. It's not worth the RL cost anymore, though. :(

Anyway, well played wolves (especially Nerwen, who still looked innocent toDay...)

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:24 PM
Rikae and Mith you just can't quit!

You were both good regardless of doing some mistakes.

I didn't play particularily well but I'm not going to let that dampen my spirits and i think you should do so too.

Actually I feel like gloating even though we lost. I mean, although I was totally confused for most of the game, I managed to get two of the wolves in the end. Not bad. Now I don't need to skip the next games maybe. :D

Although seriously, some sort of pause would possibly do good for me.

Durelin
03-03-2008, 12:24 PM
I kind of feel like returning to WW was a mistake, from Rikae and Mith's reactions...

I thought was done for toDay...well, I thought either Nogrod or I would get it toDay and the other tomorrow, and then Nerwen would skate by to the end...hopefully. ;)

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 12:25 PM
Yes, you guys were scaring the hell out of me toDay, you got that close.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:26 PM
Hope that's not a final decision, Rikae. :(

*goes off to delete the pask-word*

Durelin
03-03-2008, 12:29 PM
I just realized that statement in my last post sounded rather...egotistical. What I meant was that I wanted to come back to a game that was generally fun, and apparently it was not...

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:29 PM
No really, I'm serious. If it were alcohol, it would be time to join AA... and besides, I'm bad at it.The thing with AA you might be right about but you're pretty good in this. I mean one of the best I've seen. But it does happen one gets things wrong every now and then or isn't secure enough to go for what one thinks is right.

I know we went for the nerve-wrecking game in purpose during the Nights but I'm a bit worried as so many people have now declared that they are fools or not going to stand the excitement any more.

A game this is, after all. I've lost so many times and been wrong so many times I can't give you the count of them.

But surely this should be done only so far as it's fun. I hope you find your fun to this after a short while again.

Volo
03-03-2008, 12:30 PM
What do I learn once again? To trust my suspicions and points made before the actual moment. In Noggie's game I suspected Mac strongly at one point, but dropped it. Now Nerwen.

Lommy's right, might as well gloat a bit, as Dury and Nogrod were my mains in the end and Nerwen still a possibility, or at least I didn't suspect anybody else much more.

Congratulations! You were great Wolves, and Innocents too! Rikae, it was a pleasure to play alongside (or behindside) you!

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:30 PM
Durelin, it was good that you returned to ww even though you were all too evil... :p ;)

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:33 PM
I actually liked this game a lot. I enjoyed it except for one phase toDay and it returned my confidence in my wits and gut-feelings at the last minute and quite from around the corner.

Not that it will probably bother you at all since you won, but had you not killed Greenie, I would have been far more confused.

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:33 PM
Rikae and Mith you just can't quit!

.

I wasn't - I haven't had a good game for yonks. I really can't play whne I have no access at home and am spending 10hrs a day at work and commuting even if I get to leave on time.

I mostly only play if people I feel an obligation to ask me so please if you like me at all please don't ask me to play. I would have given up ages ago if I hadn't wanted to mod again and with Ang absent our joint venture will probably never happen.

I really don't think I participated enough and I feel I let you all down so it is better if I retire at least untill my circumstances are different.

As I said, if you care for me at all you will respect this. I will soon sign up if I am in the right mood and have time.

Volo
03-03-2008, 12:33 PM
Nogrod pretty much summed it!

It's the art of swallowing one's mistakes and embarrassment! :)

...and I have noticed that it's quite annoying when people say that they're no good, because they're always better than somebody else, from the perspective of the somebody else. ;)

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 12:35 PM
Once again, the village actually did really well– I knew Dury had given up from the way she started attacking me late in the Day...

...but it did give me great pleasure to say this:

I just think the whole village has been played for fools (village idiots?) all along.

and this:

All right, then–

++Menel.

And Rikae– if you're wrong about him, I swear I will kill you.

Nothing like using a bit of double-speak to have a secret gloat while the game's still in progress...;)

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:35 PM
Very well understood Mith :), now try to get your circumstances better, and quick. :p ;)

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:35 PM
I wanted to come back to a game that was generally fun, and apparently it was not...Others may speak for themselves but what I understood from Rikae's comments was that this just takes a bit too much of the time and energy (I do agree with the verdict indeed as I'd need to be reading essays for tomorrow right now and will end up reading them up late night) as it's so addictive you can't let go or play less...

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:36 PM
Dury - don't take it personally - I am just seriously overstretched and hate letting people down.

And I can cope with losing but I hate being so useless..especially since people seem to think I should be good. I can't remember the last time I spotted a wolf in time.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:39 PM
And I can cope with losing but I hate being so useless..especially since people seem to think I should be good. I can't remember the last time I spotted a wolf in time.:D No pressure. I actually know how that feels, that's close to how I felt when Rikae (and Mac...?) complained to me that I'm suspiciously trying to deceive the villagers when I did not place myself in the good experienced loudmouth players -category.... :D

My apologies to Menel who ended up being the scapegoat, as always...

Durelin
03-03-2008, 12:44 PM
Others may speak for themselves but what I understood from Rikae's comments was that this just takes a bit too much of the time and energy (I do agree with the verdict indeed as I'd need to be reading essays for tomorrow right now and will end up reading them up late night) as it's so addictive you can't let go or play less...

Yeah...which I quite agree with because it has kept me from starting on either my paper or presentation, and from working on my programming homework, and from reading for my lit class...

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 12:44 PM
My apologies to Menel who ended up being the scapegoat, as always...That was indeed bad! Sorry Menel. Before Rikae and Volo voted for him I had already decided that I should be very reluctant to vote for him toDay (after Rikae had suggested it) so that if I was to go toDay and found out a wolf you would have then toMorrow gathered that my reluctance speaks against him and thence you would have lynched him as an innocent and I would have thus helped my packmates from behind the grave... :p

Durelin
03-03-2008, 12:46 PM
Exactly what I tried a little to do, too, Nog. XD Yes - sorry, Menel!

Rikae
03-03-2008, 12:47 PM
Others may speak for themselves but what I understood from Rikae's comments was that this just takes a bit too much of the time and energy (I do agree with the verdict indeed as I'd need to be reading essays for tomorrow right now and will end up reading them up late night) as it's so addictive you can't let go or play less...

Yep, the time and energy it takes (this time when I could least spare it), along with the inadvisability of playing a game involving deceit and accusations against one's fiancé.

By the way, Nogrod, I didn't vote you, although I thought you looked as wolvish as Menel, because I wanted to keep what I thought was the more talkative of the "two wolves" around for a more interesting Day 5. :D

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:48 PM
That was indeed bad! Sorry Menel. Before Rikae and Volo voted for him I had already decided that I should be very reluctant to vote for him toDay (after Rikae had suggested it) so that if I was to go toDay and found out a wolf you would have then toMorrow gathered that my reluctance speaks against him and thence you would have lynched him as an innocent and I would have thus helped my packmates from behind the grave... :pI would probably have fallen for that, had last minute doubts and voted him anyway... :rolleyes:

I know what people are talking about when they're complaining about this and RL. I actually half-dreaded what will happen later this week if the game is still going on as I have quite a lot of school things to do as well as other stuff and guests coming to see us...

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 12:51 PM
I am as bad as anyone but having modded, I would like ot apologise to Agan for preempting her dramatic moment.... this isn't really fair guys...

Aganzir
03-03-2008, 12:53 PM
The atmosphere in the house was rather depressed. The beggars knew that this was their last chance to kill a wolf, otherwise they would all die. Volo lost his hope already in the morning, and when evening drew near, several others followed his example.

”If we don't lynch a wolf now, I deserve a public flogging!” said Rikae.

”This has been a disaster. We've been played for fools,” sighed Nerwen.

Lommy and Durelin only looked depressed. Menel was still sorry about his brother's death – or innocence.

Maybe the pressure and frustration was too much. Maybe having spent four days under the same roof was too much. Suddenly Lommy and Nogrod attacked each other. It might have ended badly, but luckily the beggars had some buckets of ice-cold water near-hand, which they could now throw upon the fighters. That had a queer effect on them. They had been boiling over; now they became cold and sensible. Lommy found a sweet bubblegum somewhere and started chewing. Quickly, she was her cheerful old self again.

Finally, the sun was beginning to set. It was time to vote.

”To whatever end,” said Rikae.

”For best or worst,” said Volo.

”If Menel isn't a wolf, I promise I will kill you,” said Nerwen.

”Not that this is going to do any difference,” said Menel.

”May the force be with us,” said Nogrod.

”Let the chance be on our side,” said Lommy.

”Sorry,” said Durelin.

And Mith only voted.

**

Poor little Meneltarmacil stood alone. More than half of the beggars had turned against him.

Rikae turned to speak to him. ”Little Menel, do you like building snowmen?”

”Yes... But isn't it too cold for it? There isn't the right type of snow.”

”It doesn't matter,” said Volo, ”there's the snow and you are the man.”

Menel looked unsure. ”Err, I'm not sure if I want to try that.”

”Let's go now,” said Nerwen and took Menel by hand. Nogrod put on the coat that was hanging on the coatrack and followed them out. The other beggars followed silently.

”Stand still, laddy,” said Nerwen. Menel had no chance but to obey. Rikae, Volo, Nerwen and Nogrod started to heap snow around him.

Menel's legs were now covered by snow.

”Mummy, I'm cold,” he said helplessly. But all Mith could do was to stand where she was, watching the last living member of her family slowly being killed, and curse the thing that is called 'democracy.'

Menel's chest was now covered by snow.

”Mummy, I can't move my hands,” he said helplessly.

Menel's mouth was now covered by snow.

”Mummy, it's hard to breathe!” his scream was muffled by the snow.

”Does anyone have a carrot?” asked Nogrod.

”Here you are.” Durelin stepped forward, smiling, and put it where Menel's nose had been.

The night fell.

The beggars stood shivering.

Death pattered out softly. ”It is time.”

**

It was not called the Old Forest without reason, for it was indeed ancient, a survivor of vast forgotten woods; and in it there lived yet, ageing no quicker than the hills, the fathers of the fathers of the trees, remembering times when they were lords. The countless years had filled them with pride and rooted wisdom, and with malice. But none were more dangerous than the Great Willow: his heart was rotten, but his strength was green; and he was cunning, and a master of winds, and his song ran through the woods on both sides of the river. His grey thirsty spirit drew power out of the earth and spread like fine root-threads in the ground, and invisible twig-fingers in the air, till it had under its dominion nearly all the trees of the Forest from the Hedge to the Downs.

**

Rikae, Mithalwen, Volo and Thinlómien were standing by the gigantic tree. Three white wolves were standing behind them.

Death spoke.

”Awake, Willow-man! I have brought you the pay for a permission to go through your forest! Take these humans as my sacrifice to you!”

And the beggars were swallowed by hungry earth, and the whole wood was silent.

**

A few days later, the Shire was attacked from two directions. The first wolves crossed the frozen Brandywine river, but while the Hobbits were fighting against them, the main force came from behind the Hedge, from the Forest, and swept over the Shire.

Soon they were already plundering the southern lands.

**

Alive:
Nogrod the Agreeable, the leader of the beggars
his wife, Nerwen
Durelin, Rikae's widow

Dead:
Tom Bombadil (ranger) - killed on Night 1
Goldberry (seer) - killed on Night 1
The Barrow-wight (hunter) - killed on Night 1
Gwathagor, the child of Nogrod and Nerwen (ordo) - used as a battering ram on Day 1
Sally the Insufferable, a slightly mad crippled woman (ordo) - skinned, scalped and made to clothes on Night 2
the Right Honourable McCaber, Volo's child (ordo) - drowned in the Withywindle on Day 2
THE Ka, a blind old woman (ordo) - poisoned with carbon monoxide & throat slit open on Night 3
Boromir88 the Silent One, Mith's husband, Mac & Menel's father, an ex-pickpocket (ordo) - accused unjustly and carried away against his will by annoying trees at the beginning of Day 3
Macalaure the Guileless, Mith & Boro's son (ordo) - fell in snowball fight on Day 3
A Little Green, Lommy's little sister (ordo) - deceived by a big bad wolf and eaten on Night 4
Meneltarmacil, Mith & Boro's son (ordo) - died as a snowman on Day 4
Rikae the Kind, Durelin's wife - fed to Old Man Willow on Day 4
Mithalwen the Perpetually Sane and Serene, Boro's widow - fed to Old Man Willow on Day 4
Volo, a young widowed man - fed to Old Man Willow on Day 4
orphaned little Thinlómien - fed to Old Man Willow on Day 4

The game is over. The wolves win. Congratulations!

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 12:54 PM
I am as bad as anyone but having modded, I would like ot apologise to Agan for preempting her dramatic moment.... this isn't really fair guys...What? Surely it's not your fault we did not end up having a fifty-fifty situation...

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 01:00 PM
I would probably have fallen for that, had last minute doubts and voted him anyway... :rolleyes:

I know what people are talking about when they're complaining about this and RL. I actually half-dreaded what will happen later this week if the game is still going on as I have quite a lot of school things to do as well as other stuff and guests coming to see us...

Likewise... which is why I took the risk of trying to get an ordo lynched toDay rather than sacrificing one of my fellow-wolves.

Rikae
03-03-2008, 01:01 PM
The blame should be put almost entirely on me (though partly on Volo :p)

Mith's right - normally I wouldn't want to start the post-game discussion before the narration like this either -- but this time I was trying to get away to deal with other responsibilities. Having neglected these anyway, I have to pray that my prof is understanding. :rolleyes:

Rikae
03-03-2008, 01:02 PM
I came so close to voting for Nogrod, too.. :confused:

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 01:02 PM
I mean it is a biot mean that everyone knows the score and is discussing it before teh deadline has actually arrived.

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 01:03 PM
The blame should be put almost entirely on me (though partly on Volo :p)Hmph. I disagree. If you ask me, the culprits are Nerwen, Durelin and Nogrod. ;) :p

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 01:05 PM
Now I see what Mith meant.... but still (not that this is a good excuse) this really isn't the first time things are clear before deadline, is it? :)

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 01:08 PM
The blame should be put almost entirely on me (though partly on Volo :p)




Don't be silly - you could have had more back up (from me for a start) and it was one of the strongest wolf packs I have faced ... no weak link. It take ages for me to work out Dury and Nogrod is so inherently suspicious that I almost ignore it. And Nrewen.. well I said last time we played she wouldbe a terrifing wolf.

We were also a bit unlucky losing Boro, who can be very astute.

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 01:08 PM
And I'd say Agan's narration does shine off brightly enough from this discussion...

A deep bow to Agan as well for her wonderful narrations. Even this last was a touchy one.

*one who need to rush as well*

Rikae
03-03-2008, 01:09 PM
Well, I think this might be interesting to list...
People I voted for or advocated lynching:

Gwath - Innocent
Boro - Innocent
Mac - Innocent
Durelin - Wolf
Nogrod - Wolf
Menel - Innocent

The moral? Don't listen to me. Not that it matters, as I'm retired... but now, I wonder how this list would go for the rest of you? It might be good to know who has the best wolf-suspecting ratio from a game without gifteds...

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 01:09 PM
Now I see what Mith meant.... but still (not that this is a good excuse) this really isn't the first time things are clear before deadline, is it? :)

That doens't make it right.... it is just that there was so little time to the deadline ... it doens seem discourteous..but I am still talking so . *shut up Mith!*

McCaber
03-03-2008, 01:09 PM
I just realized, the village is 0-3 since I started. I wonder how long I can continue the streak.

Durelin
03-03-2008, 01:10 PM
That narration was so hilarious and so utterly disturbing at the same time...it's amazing.

You are so awesome, Aganzir. Thanks for the great game!

Thank you to everyone for a great (and wonderfully nerve-wracking) game!!

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 01:11 PM
Well, I think this might be interesting to list...Now Rikae, back to the RL work, immediately!

The teacher commands you! (and himself as well... :))

Meneltarmacil
03-03-2008, 01:12 PM
Well-done, wolves. Well-done indeed. I don't think this will be my last game, though. I'm honestly crazy enough to try again.

satansaloser2005
03-03-2008, 01:15 PM
I just realized, the village is 0-3 since I started. I wonder how long I can continue the streak.


Cabbie, my thanks. I was waiting to talk until another corpse did.:cool:

Wolves, you little nasties, well done. I called Nerwen for a wolf as soon as I saw that I'd died, and thought Boro or Dury for one of the others. Never would have caught Noggie though. You rascally little devil you. ;)

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 01:21 PM
Agan - that narration will give me nightmares ... I read a book last year that had a child freeze to death lost in the snow and I couldn't finish it....

satansaloser2005
03-03-2008, 01:25 PM
Okay, ignore the first part of my last post. Didn't see the narration before I started posting.

WOW. Agan, that was niiiiiice. *gives poor little Menel a much-needed hug*

Aganzir
03-03-2008, 01:26 PM
You wolves were just awesome.

I chose the roles by dice roll - I don't think I would have chosen quite that strong a pack if I had done it by myself. I had a few requirements for the pack, though - I wanted to have at least one wolf I could be sure would do some plotting (and they all were such), and I didn't want to have any non-posting wolves (which was not a problem in this game, anyway). I used my veto right once: the first pack chosen by the dice was Nogrod, Lommy and Greenie, and I didn't quite want them all to be wolves in my game (did someone mention favouring one's friends?) :D

I think one of the main contributors to the village's loss was sheer bad luck. Every wolf had been suspected, at least a little, but the lynches just always turned out to be in their favour. And lack of time, Boro's withdrawal and everything.

But this was really interesting to watch, and I can't deny I'd like to play in a game without gifteds myself as well (heh, I wonder if anyone else would anymore :D).

And I definitely don't mind you starting to talk before the actual deadline, so no need to apologise. I don't have much time now (school starts way too early tomorrow), so it's just the better that I can see you talk a bit now.

**

Some minor things that pop into my mind right now:

I was on my art class with Lommy yesterday and she was speculating who the wolves were. Suddenly she said: "They are Nerwen, Durelin and my father, they are!" I admit I rather stiffened. Then she continued, though, "No, I don't think I could just guess them all right this way."

Also, it was extremely nasty (I laughed at it a lot, though) of Nogrod to remind everyone that he didn't visit computer before the deadline, because he actually rang me up about 1,5 hours before it and told they'd kill Greenie, one of the reasons being that she couldn't participate much today. :D

Rikae
03-03-2008, 01:31 PM
the first pack chosen by the dice was Nogrod, Lommy and Greenie, and I didn't quite want them all to be wolves in my game (did someone mention favouring one's friends?) :D

:eek:

Mac and I talked about the possibility that was the pack on Night 4.

Macalaure
03-03-2008, 01:31 PM
Nerwen!
Everytime I think you're guilty, you're innocent. Everytime I think you're innocent, you're guilty. Every innocent-looking Nerwen will henceforth be lynched by me! Gruesomely! :p
But honestly: Excellent game, absolutely excellent.

Nogrod... I had a bad feeling about you from the beginning, but then I thought "Oh no, I'm always suspicious of him, let's wait til I have something solid." I hate you. :D

Durelin, even though you were the most-suspected wolf, very well-played. :)

I hope not too many are annoyed at the trick I played before my death. You were so firm about lynching me that day, I just had to take a little revenge. And I though that, while apparently playing horribly suspicious that day, I could still be of some use by causing some suspicious reactions.

Again, sorry Lommy for that stupid vote.


Rikae and I have been talking about Werewolf, and we reached the conclusion that it's not a good idea to play it against each other. I have some faint hope that Rikae will return after some time, when there is less work around.

Yep, the time and energy it takes (this time when I could least spare it), along with the inadvisability of playing a game involving deceit and accusations against one's fiancé.

This pretty much sums it up. I think Eomer and Cailín ended up with the same conclusion, I think. I'm probably also going to play less in the future, and only when the deadline is convenient, since I've had less free time for the last couple of months and will for the foreseeable months to come. It's rather annoying to spend most of your free time playing and getting little else done while knowing you're not even playing remotely your best.

By the way, Nogrod, Lommy, Lily: How do you manage not to slip your roles when you're around each other all the time while playing? This has proven to be really difficult for Rikae and me (well, mostly for me).

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 01:33 PM
Also, it was extremely nasty (I laughed at it a lot, though) of Nogrod to remind everyone that he didn't visit computer before the deadline, because he actually rang me up about 1,5 hours before it and told they'd kill Greenie, one of the reasons being that she couldn't participate much today. :DOh you spoiler! :D

Yeah we talked about this with Lommy after the game had resolved. I think it was just fair that if she used RL-reasons I could come up with my own as well... :p

And no hard feelings on either side...

Rikae
03-03-2008, 01:34 PM
Well, now that I've had a few minutes to think about it... ;)

I don't see why I shouldn't play again if it is:
a) during summer vacation
and
b) Mac isn't playing

Seriously, it's a creepy feeling to advocate even fictionally "killing" somebody you're that close to, and also very disturbing to be decieved by them (or to decieve them, as in the last game.) At least for me, and I fear knowing this will make it too easy for other players when we're both in the game!

EDIT: Crossed, obviously, with Mac and Nogrod.

satansaloser2005
03-03-2008, 01:37 PM
Rikae, it occured to me after Mac died that you could possibly be a wolf again this game. I didn't think it true, but my friend and I were discussing it and could imagine Mac's face if that had been the case. I probably would have dumped you. ;)


Okay, I've been meaning to ask this. Volo, what in the world....I can't figure out why you would say that Mac was confirmed as a wolf if he wasn't. Feel like explaining yourself? I mean, not that it didn't make me laugh like a hyena when I saw his role, but I'm confused.


Sorry. Back in a bit. Got to make a phone call.

Volo
03-03-2008, 01:41 PM
Okay, I've been meaning to ask this. Volo, what in the world....I can't figure out why you would say that Mac was confirmed as a wolf if he wasn't. Feel like explaining yourself? I mean, not that it didn't make me laugh like a hyena when I saw his role, but I'm confused.
I think I explaind it somewhere - yes, I'm quite sure I did.

Ah, here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=549534&postcount=418). So in the end I was right about Durelin's slips. :)

Rikae
03-03-2008, 01:42 PM
Rikae, it occured to me after Mac died that you could possibly be a wolf again this game. I didn't think it true, but my friend and I were discussing it and could imagine Mac's face if that had been the case. I probably would have dumped you. ;)


I nearly dumped him for his fake confession!
:mad:

That was EVIL, especially considering that I mentioned how nervous I was about proving I could read him.

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 01:43 PM
Nerwen!
Everytime I think you're guilty, you're innocent. Everytime I think you're innocent, you're guilty. Every innocent-looking Nerwen will henceforth be lynched by me! Gruesomely! :p

I thought you might decide that...:D

Er... I do hope you and Rikae are all right... I mean, after she lynched you this game and stabbed you in the back last game...:(

satansaloser2005
03-03-2008, 01:47 PM
Yeah, that threw me for a loop too. I don't blame you. And in your defense, I'd convinced myself that he'd round off the Nerwen/Durelin team quite nicely, so I thought him wolfish too.

Thanks, Volo. I didn't see that post before. *is guilty of post-skimming, and is ashamed of herself for it*


And again. Noggie, I hate you....but you're totally my hero. :smokin:

Volo
03-03-2008, 01:52 PM
Thanks, Volo. I didn't see that post before. *is guilty of post-skimming, and is ashamed of herself for it*

No problem. :)

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 01:56 PM
But Volo- and Mac– what exactly were you hoping for? Did you really think one of us would yell, "But Mac can't be a wolf! I'M a wolf! ...Damn!"

A Little Green
03-03-2008, 02:03 PM
Congrats to our magnificent wolves! And the village as well, not that we lynched any of the wolves, but the effort was brave I must say. (Me especially - my suspects were, what, Mac, Cabbie, and Menel? :p)

Cheers, and thanks everyone for a great game, I really enjoyed it. I'm kind of getting a hunch of how to play as an ordo... :rolleyes:

And, last but definitely not least, countless thanks to Agan for great modding and absolutely, should we say, chilling narrations. I particularly enjoyed mine.

:D

Volo
03-03-2008, 02:06 PM
But Volo- and Mac– what exactly were you hoping for? Did you really think one of us would yell, "But Mac can't be a wolf! I'M a wolf! ...Damn!"

Of course not, but it did give me a good reason to suspect Durelin.

Macalaure
03-03-2008, 02:16 PM
Er... I do hope you and Rikae are all right... I mean, after she lynched you this game and stabbed you in the back last game...:(
All is well (apart from Rikae's work :rolleyes:). It was all just "in the heat of the moment".

what exactly were you hoping for?For some common sense from the ordos. :D

satansaloser2005
03-03-2008, 02:23 PM
For some common sense from the ordos. :D

You expected this in WEREWOLF?!?! Wow, you really are delusional. :Merisu:

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 02:29 PM
Indeed....

Thinlómien
03-03-2008, 02:31 PM
Thanks for modding Agan! You did it well and your narrations were gorgeous and grotesque.

I was on my art class with Lommy yesterday and she was speculating who the wolves were. Suddenly she said: "They are Nerwen, Durelin and my father, they are!" I admit I rather stiffened. Then she continued, though, "No, I don't think I could just guess them all right this way."I really said that?! Wow. Cool. :D

By the way, Nogrod, Lommy, Lily: How do you manage not to slip your roles when you're around each other all the time while playing? This has proven to be really difficult for Rikae and me (well, mostly for me).Quite easily. It's more the fact that I at least am afraid that my expressions and the way I react at "this end of the monitor" will rather give something away. I must say Nogrod has developed an art of playing innocent face-to-face. ;) Actually, the only problem is that sometimes it can be difficult to go online during Night phases without arousing suspicion. And now that I think of it, Nogrod actually once slipped to me something that clearly implied he was a wolf (and didn't even realise he did so) - but fortunately for him I was the seer and I had already dreamed of him so no harm done. :D

Seriously, it's a creepy feeling to advocate even fictionally "killing" somebody you're that close to, and also very disturbing to be decieved by them (or to decieve them, as in the last game.) At least for me, and I fear knowing this will make it too easy for other players when we're both in the game!Well, I've never suffered from such niceties, but it might be just because a relationship between child and parent or siblings is quite different from a romantic relationship... Anyway, I think the key is not taking the whole game too seriously.

And lastly, Mac... I can only laugh or despair so I'd rather laugh. I'm so sorry. Like I said, looking back, you were indeed quite innocentish and I must be happy that you were almost as wrong about me as I was about you. I think I used to spot you as a wolf relatively well and usually felt good about you when you were innocent, but for the last couple of games it has all been upside down, just thinking of Nogrod's, Farael's and this one... What happened?

Mithalwen
03-03-2008, 02:43 PM
I should never ever play with anyone I knew in RL .... I could have cheerfully murdered just about everyone who was on my furry tail in Sauce's game and one of my motivations in declaring myself a wolf was that I couldn't bear the prospect of their gloating ( I found that quite hurt my amour propre in my Fenris game). I felt rather ashamed when so many people said they enjoyed my declaration that it was motivated so much by the desire to go out in style and on my own terms - as well as to leave a minimum of traces to my packmate. Really I am not a nice person....:o

Rikae
03-03-2008, 03:11 PM
Well, I've never suffered from such niceties, but it might be just because a relationship between child and parent or siblings is quite different from a romantic relationship... Anyway, I think the key is not taking the whole game too seriously.


Probably. If my brother, father or daughter were playing (well, maybe not daughter, as the oldest is only seven - but when they're older), I think I could lynch them all quite happily. :)
I also used to have no problem like that with Mac, as I killed him on Night 1 once upon a time! Still, in the last game, I was unreasonably dismayed at seeing him unjustly persecuted (when, as a wolf, I should have been gloating), and this time I was irrationally furious that he tricked me. *shrug*
I really shouldn't take it so seriously. I always tell myself that... :rolleyes:

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Back to work Rikae! (and myself too... I should have closed this darn computer...)

Just adding to Lommy's point about romantic relationship being a bit different than being a parent, children or sibling - and I hope I'm not paternalising here - but I could well think that with a relationship that has lasted ten years or whatever (= a long time enough) there would be no problem either.

Young love... so tender, delicate and fragile... and insecure. :)
(I'm not sure if I envy you or am just happy to have gotten over that already! :D)

Macalaure
03-03-2008, 03:21 PM
And lastly, Mac... I can only laugh or despair so I'd rather laugh. I'm so sorry. Like I said, looking back, you were indeed quite innocentish and I must be happy that you were almost as wrong about me as I was about you. I think I used to spot you as a wolf relatively well and usually felt good about you when you were innocent, but for the last couple of games it has all been upside down, just thinking of Nogrod's, Farael's and this one... What happened?
It might be because I changed my style a little. I was bored of being too analytical, which was going to make Werewolf as a whole less interesting to me. Now I focus more on gut feelings. I figured out that, in the end, having fun while playing is more important than being successful at all costs.

Durelin
03-03-2008, 03:51 PM
So...am I a bad person to feel that I could choose as a nightly kill, lynch, or use my CaptainofDespair in WW without much hesitation?

On the other hand, I'd probably still need a bit of time to get over him tricking me. So my pride is greater than my kindness? Oh dear....

Oh, and Volo, about the "slips" thing... I swear, most of the things that people jump on, whether I am a wolf or innocent, seem to me like things a wolf would never say, and that's why I say them. Like pointing out the way the innocents needed to win...why would a wolf want to remind the innocents that they need to band together when the wolf knows they and their fellows are all rather in danger? Bah, the mob is so fickle. :p

Nogrod
03-03-2008, 04:01 PM
I figured out that, in the end, having fun while playing is more important than being successful at all costs.I couldn't agree more! That was the main reason behind our kills in this game, keeping it nerve-wrecking and intense and not going for the "easier road" but actually picking out people whose death didn't tell anything or didn't actually further our cause.

Of course sometimes when the going gets tough one tends to go for the winning with guts but basically I have seen that sleeping overnight helps a lot and in the next morning one is much more at ease and purely enjoying once again...

I have tried to change my style a lot recently and in the last game I almost managed to do it but in this one I failed miserably. I'd like to see myself posting much less but observing things with the same rigor I can when I'm at my best. Like reading as much but saying a quarter of what I tend to say normally.

Let's see if I have time for the next one if I could pull it then... But it looks bad as we are approaching the national matriculation examinations and it will mean a host of work for me...

---

But thanks everyone, once again if I haven't made a joint thanks in the first place. This was really a hectic and interesting game. Unlike some have said this really showed why WW is worthwhile playing: and I'd say the same thing even if I had been lynched toDay - or if we lost or whatever - or if I was an innocent losing this one as it really was quite challenging. Just fun and nice work for the "grey cells"... :)

Macalaure
03-03-2008, 05:48 PM
Young love... so tender, delicate and fragile... and insecure. :)
(I'm not sure if I envy you or am just happy to have gotten over that already!)

Believe me, if it was that fragile, it wouldn't be here anymore at all. :)

It's envy for sure, old man. :smokin:

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 07:36 PM
Like pointing out the way the innocents needed to win...why would a wolf want to remind the innocents that they need to band together when the wolf knows they and their fellows are all rather in danger? Bah, the mob is so fickle. :p

Rikae and Lommy took that as you giving veiled instructions to your packmates on how to vote– like we wouldn't have discussed that at Night.:rolleyes:

Rikae
03-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Believe me, if it was that fragile, it wouldn't be here anymore at all. :)


True. :)
We've been through a heck of a lot worse - a WW game isn't going to break us up. (It can still make for an unpleasant time, though.)


Rikae and Lommy took that as you giving veiled instructions to your packmates on how to vote– like we wouldn't have discussed that at Night.
Ah, and Durelin was as innocent as a newborn babe, after all, wasn't she? :p

Actually, I took it as a veiled gloat/encouragement to comrades.

Gwathagor
03-03-2008, 08:14 PM
I hate werewolves.:mad::cool::rolleyes:

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 08:46 PM
Wait till you are one...:D

Gwathagor
03-03-2008, 08:48 PM
...then I will sound the depths of self-loathing.

Nerwen
03-03-2008, 09:02 PM
I couldn't agree more! That was the main reason behind our kills in this game, keeping it nerve-wrecking and intense and not going for the "easier road" but actually picking out people whose death didn't tell anything or didn't actually further our cause.

It's also– apart from my not having much time this week, like I said up there– the reason why I decided to try for an ordo-kill instead of the somewhat safer course of lynching Dury yesterDay when she came under fire– or Nogrod later.

I mean, we'd planned things all along so we could all safely lynch each other if need be... but when it came to it I thought, "Nah, let's see if we can bring this off.":)

THE Ka
03-03-2008, 09:46 PM
I used my veto right once: the first pack chosen by the dice was Nogrod, Lommy and Greenie, and I didn't quite want them all to be wolves in my game (did someone mention favouring one's friends?)


Have you no pity? :p

Though, that would be quite interesting, all three wolves sharing a computer, plus probably very deadly as communication and plan making would be all too easy.

...then I will sound the depths of self-loathing.

What an interesting concept for a wolf. The Gregor Samsa Wolf?
Though, don't take it that bad. You'll find it odd at first, but once you settle in your fur it's quite fun and you can't wait to be one again in another game.

~ Kaleidoscope Ka

Gwathagor
03-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Ha ha ha. Once tasted, I'm sure the seductive power of evil wolf-ness will consume me completely. :p Then there will be NO going back...I have to savor my virtue while I still retain it.

McCaber
03-03-2008, 10:04 PM
At least you had virtue. Unlike some I could mention who started off evil ...

heh heh heh

Gwathagor
03-03-2008, 10:06 PM
HAVE. Present tense. :cool:

satansaloser2005
03-03-2008, 10:12 PM
At least you had virtue. Unlike some I could mention who started off evil ...

heh heh heh



Awwww, our little McCobbler. How you amuse the masses. :p
P.S. Yes, I'd like fries with that.

McCaber
03-03-2008, 10:34 PM
Which masses are you talking about? I think you're giving me too much credit.

Oh, and you'll have to talk to the big Mac about fries. I just handle drinks and desserts.

satansaloser2005
03-03-2008, 10:46 PM
Which masses are you talking about? I think you're giving me too much credit.


Okay, so you amuse a midget and her pet duck, aka two poor, bored college students. You really need to learn to let people stroke your ego. :P


Oh, and you'll have to talk to the big Mac about fries. I just handle drinks and desserts.

You totally just killed me dead. D.E.D. Dead. *laughs*

McCaber
03-04-2008, 02:06 AM
Sally, from one poor college student to another (several others?), many thanks.

Thinlómien
03-04-2008, 04:57 AM
It might be because I changed my style a little. I was bored of being too analytical, which was going to make Werewolf as a whole less interesting to me. Now I focus more on gut feelings. I figured out that, in the end, having fun while playing is more important than being successful at all costs.Indeed. Now I just have to re-learn how to read you... ;)

I don't see why I shouldn't play again if it is:
a) during summer vacation
and
b) Mac isn't playingWell, fortunately I can see at least one good thing in the two of you not playing in the same games. I will be laughed at less: last Saturday, Agan was visiting me in Noggie's place and I accidentally said "Rikalaure" when talking about Rikae and you can imagine how much the two of them laughed at me. :rolleyes: :D

Volo
03-05-2008, 09:51 AM
Oh, and Volo, about the "slips" thing... I swear, most of the things that people jump on, whether I am a wolf or innocent, seem to me like things a wolf would never say, and that's why I say them. Like pointing out the way the innocents needed to win...why would a wolf want to remind the innocents that they need to band together when the wolf knows they and their fellows are all rather in danger? Bah, the mob is so fickle. :p
"Slips" are really a wierd thing. Having been accused of letting out slips in the very game somehow lessens my believe in them, but to me WW is probably more of going by gut feelings and then writing highly subjective analyses. :D In that case things that can be called slips do come out handy. But it sure is frustrating that you're accused of them when Innocent.

Nogrod
03-14-2008, 07:38 PM
Just coming back to this for a while...

This was really a game I won't forget. Our team was just marvellous and everything went as we planned in the end... But that doesn't mean it was easy. On the contrary.

It was a tough decision to leave Rikae alive the last Night of the game. I had a bad feeling about her coming up with the truth - or with Lommy doing it. When Rikae opened the Day by saying that her only suspect was Greenie and as she had now turned innocent I must say I doubted our strategy for a moment and indeed went on to "kamikaze-mode" trying to wield the interest on me as both Rikae and Lommy started suspecting me. At that point I was quite sure one of us would be lynched and that I would be the one against the firing-squad. So I tried my best to just puzzle you others about my fellows and tried to defend myself quite ready to go.

And then people started voting... and I couldn't believe my eyes!

Oh the heart-rate... :)

And why Werewolf is so much fun! I mean just think of the kicks you can get from this... :p

Nerwen
03-14-2008, 09:44 PM
Remember I wanted to kill Rikae on Night 1, for being too dangerous?

JWhen Rikae opened the Day by saying that her only suspect was Greenie and as she had now turned innocent I must say I doubted our strategy for a moment and indeed went on to "kamikaze-mode" trying to wield the interest on me as both Rikae and Lommy started suspecting me. At that point I was quite sure one of us would be lynched and that I would be the one against the firing-squad. So I tried my best to just puzzle you others about my fellows and tried to defend myself quite ready to go.

And then people started voting... and I couldn't believe my eyes!

*cough* I think I deserve a bit of credit there, for deflecting suspicion onto third parties... "You're right, Rikae, Nogrod and Lommy could be in it together... I need to rethink on Lommy... Yes, Nogrod and Menel are suspicious... I've really let Menel slip under my radar..." :Merisu:

And even so, both Lommy and Rikae came within a hairsbreadth of guessing the whole thing!

Nogrod
03-15-2008, 09:58 AM
And even so, both Lommy and Rikae came within a hairsbreadth of guessing the whole thing!Indeed! Those were hair-raising moments! :D

Hopefully my quite consistent suspicion and "quasi case making" against Nerwen helped to confuase as well...

But it was sooo close... :eek: