Werewolf XLVIII: When Virtual Becomes Reality

[Brinniel]

The Barrow-Wight stared at his computer screen in frustration. His inbox was overflowing with various complaints about inappropriate behaviour on the Barrow Downs and difficulties accessing the site. It seemed that as soon as one problem was fixed, another one popped up. And lately he hadn’t even been able to fix some of the biggest problems of all. People hacking into members’ accounts? These weren’t just technical difficulties. A new email appeared in the Barrow-Wight’s inbox; this time from Estelyn:

B-W-

I seem to be experiencing some serious problems of my own here. While I can access the Downs, I am not able to log into my account. I’ve talked to morm and he seems to be experiencing the same problems. What’s going on?

-Esty

First all these problems, and now the mods can’t even log into their accounts? What’s going on…that’s a good question. The Barrow-Wight had been in contact with many tech people over the past several days, yet no one could figure out exactly how to fix these problems. Someone was behind these technical difficulties, that was obvious…but who could these culprits be? They left absolutely no tracks behind the chaos they created. For awhile the Barrow-Wight had been somewhat able to manage the messes made, but now with the moderators’ accounts blocks and him unable to lock him, he was losing all control. It’d only be time before he himself would lose access the website he created. Perhaps it was time the Barrow Downs was shut down. No…no, I can’t do that. Think of all the people I would let down. There’s gotta be another solution.

And that’s when he thought of it. A brilliant idea. These culprits…the way they worked, they weren’t outsiders…they were BDers. These guys knew the forum like the back of their hands. And the way things were going now, they wouldn’t miss an important Barrow Downs meeting for the world. Not if it meant causing more trouble.

So the Barrow-Wight wrote the post. Hopefully enough would see it before any more problems errupted. His last act of desperation to save his beloved forum:

An Announcement to All Barrow-Downers-

I am pleased to announce the first ever official Barrow Downs gathering. This is an opportunity of a lifetime to finally meet all your fellow Barrow Downs members you have been friendly with. Everyone is welcome, the more the merrier. The gathering will take place in a remote location in the woods, so please be sure to bring along tents and other camping supplies.

Be sure to RSVP. I hope to see many of you there!

The Barrow-Wight

P.S. Apologies to everyone for the technical difficulties we have been experiencing. We are still sorting it out. Please be patient.

It was a stretch…but there were enough Barrow Down addicts around for at least a dozen to show up. And the Barrow-Wight was sure of it that the hackers would be among them.

PLEASE DO NOT POST ON THIS THREAD

[Brinniel]

The day had come. The Barrow-Wight paced back and forth in front of his tent as he waited anxiously for the others to arrive. And they did. One by one, the BDers showed up hauling large backpacks. They greeted the Barrow-Wight and each other, then quickly went to business with setting up their tents. By nightfall, nineteen BDers had come. The turnout was even better than he expected. Dinner was served and BDers sat around the fire pit in different groups chatting happily with one another.

“ZOMG, the B-W is sooo HOT!!!” gushed Nerwen rather loudly.
The Sixth Wizard raised his eyebrows. “Can’t you even speak aloud with proper grammar? Who could possibly understand you?”
“I can!” Shasta jumped in. “What she’s trying to say is, ‘Oh my, the Barrow-Wight is incredibly attractive.’”
“Thx Shasta!!!!”

Meanwhile Formendacil was attempting to explain to Eomer of the Rohirrim how the Lord of the Rings films abandon the styles of Tolkien.
“Hey,” Eomer defended. “If anything, it’s Tolkien’s fault that he didn’t write about how Legolas skateboarded down the stairs on a shield at Helm’s Deep. That was a brilliant scene.”
“No it wasn’t,” commented The Elf-Warrior. “That was just plain silly. And totally impossible, by the way.”

“Did you know that Tolkien wrote a book about Elanor Gamgee and how she became a shieldmaiden of the Shire and married an elf?” Rikae shared. “It just never got published.”
“Really?” asked Sally excitedly. “Have you read it…and can I get a copy?”
Kitanna rolled her eyes. “That’s not true. And I would know because I’ve read absolutely everything Tolkien has ever written.”
“Well, not only have I read everything he has ever written, but I’ve met J.R.R. Tolkien himself,” commented Boromir88.

Eönwë was busy describing his latest dream to Mithalwen.
“And then…he ate me. Dreams are supposed to mean something right? I swear to you, those balrogs are no myth. They’re out to get me…and my family.”
Mithalwen jotted notes onto a pad of paper. “Yes, and why do you suppose that is?”

“Hey, I know this great Gandalf the Grey Uncloaked joke,” said McCaber. “It goes-“
“Oh please don’t,” moaned Kath. “Those jokes are getting so old…”

Durelin sat next to THE Ka dressed in a ranger outfit and carrying a rubber sword.
“You know, this gathering wasn’t supposed to be in costume,” informed THE Ka.
“I’m RPGing,” Durelin replied.
“Well, you look stupid.”
“Hey, you wanna start something? I’ve got a sword!” Durelin threw Ka a threatening look.
“Yeah...well..." Ka stammered. "Whoa- don’t look now, but I think I see an orc in the trees behind you!”

Nilpaurion Felagund sat on a log all by himself singing random songs. “Praise Eru for this blessed food,” he cried out with every bite he took.
Aganzir gave him a funny look as she wrote some final thoughts in her notebook before getting up.

“Here,” Aganzir handed her notebook to the Barrow-Wight. “Will you take these into consideration?”
The Barrow-Wight skimmed through her notes. “Aganzir, reputation only exists when you’re actually on the forum. Anyways, you only just met all these people…how can you have so many negative thoughts about them?”
Aganzir snatched back the notebook and returned to her seat, huffing and muttering.

“Barrow-Wight, I’ve heard you are in need of new moderators?” asked Nogrod. “You have received my PMs, haven’t you?”
“Yes, all twenty-three of them.”
“Well you will take it into consideration, won’t you? I just know I’d make a great mod.”
“Nogrod, now’s not exactly the time for this. I have a speech to make…so why don’t you sit down…”

Once everyone was finished eating, the Barrow-Wight cleared his throat and the chatting slowly died out.
“I am pleased that all of you could make it here today for the first annual Barrow-Downers gathering. What a great opportunity it is to finally meet each other in person. But this gathering was not planned just because…but for unfortunate circumstances. As you all know, lately there have been many technical difficulties occurring on the Downs. Unavailable servers, anonymous negative reputations, hijacked accounts…and most recently the moderators’ accounts have been blocked. I have been working on these problems for weeks, but have gotten nowhere. What I do know is that there are three Downers who are responsible for this mess…all of whom I suspect are among us right now. Of course, things would be much easier if they were to come and confess here and now…but I highly doubt such an event. So while you all may have thought this was simply a fun gathering, it is much more than that. It is up to us to figure out which of us are the hackers. We aren’t completely helpless against whatever evil plans these hackers may have. For one, you have me the creator. And secondly, I have assigned three members I trust most to become the newest moderators. I will not reveal their identities for the sake of hiding them from the hackers, but do know you have extra help. Now, it is getting late and I’m sure you are all tired from your long journey here. Therefore we will begin our discussions in the morning. So sleep well…and keep your eyes and ears open!”

Night 1 begins.

The Hackers/Wolves may discuss. The Seer may dream. Everyone else should remain silent.

Be sure to turn yourselves invisible if you haven’t already!

[Brinniel]

The Barrow-Wight could not sleep. His mind kept racing back to the events of the evening. He had sounded so confident in his speech, but in truth he couldn’t help but worry about the possibility that he could be wrong. What if the hackers weren’t even here? Then everyone would be accusing innocents. This whole situation could turn very messy. The what-ifs continued to flood the Barrow-Wight’s mind until a noise outside the tent caused him to freeze in his thoughts.

“Who’s there?” the Barrow-Wight asked, his voice wavering.

The Barrow-Wight sat up and turned on his flashlight. Large shadows surrounded his tent. No humans could possibly be so large. Were there bears in this part of the woods? Then the zipper of the tent door slowly slid open. The Barrow-Wight shook so hard he dropped his flashlight and the tent was consumed by darkness. The sound of evil laughter erupted into the tent followed by a “Surprise!” and the Barrow-Wight heard no more.

When the Barrow-Wight regained consciousness his head was throbbing. He tried to move only to discover his hands and feet were bound. The sound of shovels freeing dirt could be heard nearby.

“Hey, he’s awake,” said a voice.
“Well then, make sure he doesn’t shout for help,” said another. “We’re almost done here.”

One of the shapes leaned down towards the Barrow-Wight and a face came into view. A furry face. “You know, you’ve been causing us a lot of trouble lately,” it grunted.
“Yeah,” said a third. “It didn’t have to be this way.”
“What do you mean?” asked the Barrow-Wight. “You’re the ones who started all this.”
“Ah, silly B-W. It’s just a website…one that happens to discriminate against our kind. Whoever said that we were the bad guys? All we wanted was for you to step down. But then you to arrange all of this. And now, mobs will be coming after us with pitchforks and torches….just like the old days. So you have left us with no choice; if killing is what it takes to end all this, that’s what we’ll do.”
“You’ll never get away with this,” the Barrow-Wight said.
“Well, we’ll just see about that,” said the closest shape as it gagged the Barrow-Wight. “But I guess you won’t, will you?”
The last thing the Barrow-Wight ever saw was a set of large grinning teeth.

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The Barrow Downers woke to a cool, breezy morning. They ate breakfast as they waited for further instructions. But they did not come.

Finally Nogrod asked, “Where is the Barrow-Wight?”
“I don’t know,” replied Kitanna. “Is he in his tent? Maybe he overslept.”
“Nope,” replied Eomer. “I just checked.”
“Perhaps he just went on a walk,” said Kath.
“Without telling us?” asked Mithalwen.
“Hey guys…was that there yesterday?” Durelin was pointing to a large mound only meters away from the camp.

The nineteen BDers approached the mound. It was covered with fresh dirt.
“Look, there’s a sign over here,” McCaber observed.
It read: Here lies The Barrow-Wight. May he not rest in peace.

“Oh dear,” sighed Sally.
“Why would someone do something like that?” asked The Sixth Wizard.
“Isn’t it obvious?” Rikae commented. “These hackers don’t want to be discovered.”
“Well now that the B-W is dead, what are we going to do?” THE Ka asked.
“The only thing we should do,” Boromir replied. “We must finish what the Barrow-Wight started and find these hackers.”

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The Living:

Nilpaurion Felagund~Ainulindalë Addict
Kitanna~the self-righteous know-it-all
Aganzir~non-anonymous neg-repper
Shastanis Althreduin~chatspeak translator
Nerwen~rabid fangirl
Boromir88~the one upper
Kath~artiste
Rikae~the person who tries to fake knowledge of the books and fails miserably
Durelin~Unreliable RPG Addict
Eomer of the Rohirrim~easily-offended trendy
Nogrod~the wanna-be moderator
The Elf-Warrior~nitpicker
satansaloser2005~a fan of everything but Tolkien
THE Ka~Artful Dodger
Eönwë~conspiracy theorist
The Sixth Wizard~grammar Nazi
Formendacil~Tolkien Canonist
Mithalwen~therapist
McCaber~does it 4 teh lulz

The Dead:

The Barrow-Wight~took up permanent residence in a barrow (mod)

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Day 1 has begun.

Hackers/Wolves stop PMing. Everyone now may discuss.

[Kath]

Ah, hadn't realised this was already open. Well, as I said, won't be here much toDay so as I'm the first and only one here I'll just make my presence known and head to bed. Hopefully will be able to get a post in come morning (RL) and then I should be around for a couple of hours in the evening.

[The Elf-warrior]

We are in a heap of trouble, and no mistake about it. Ok, who among you all here is a murdering hacker? Anyone want to confess? Just thought a direct question wouldn't hurt. Hey, hackers, may The Barrow-Wight rest in peace. Can I have a second to this motion?

[Nerwen]

ware iz eVry1? hav teh haxOrs got U all??!!!1!!

talk 2 me plz ppl

EDIT: X'd with EW.

[The Elf-warrior]

Nerwen, you said for us to talk. Ok, here goes. Nerwen, are you a party in the murder of The Barrow-Wight? I want a yes or no answer. You too, Kath. Answer this same question. For the record, I am not a party to the murder of the Barrow-Wight.

[Formendacil]

Well, this is rather discomfiting, to be sure, but no one should be taking any alarm here. I mean, really... good guys die all the time in Tolkien--especially if they're leaderly sorts. Take a quick glance over the Silmarillion, if you don't believe me. In fewer pages than it takes Robert Jordan to waffle about whether or not one character is dead or not, Tolkien manages to kill off five High Kings of the Noldor, six sons of Fëanor (and his mum), the whole kingdom of Doriath, and more secondary and tertiary characters than you can count on an army's worth of thumbs.

What should really be taken as crucially problematic here is that the Barrow-Wight wasn't just the forum's Fingolfin or Fingon--he was more in the line of Manwë or Eru. If he's dead, what chance does any of us have.

Still, Melkor can't win. Or Sauron. Or Herumor. Or any of the other successive waves of evil that Gandalf predicted.

All the same, let's not find ourselves in a latter-day Kin-slaying, as I rather fear we have.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Repent! for was it not of old writ that:
Thou Melko shalt see that no theme can be played save it come in the end of Ilúvatar's self, nor can any alter the music in Ilúvatar's despite. He that attempts this finds himself in the end but aiding me in devising a thing of still greater grandeur and more complex wonder: -- for lo! through Melko have terror as fire, and sorrow like dark waters, wrath like thunder, and evil as far from my light as the depths if the uttermost of dark places, come into the design that I laid before you. Through him has pain and misery been made in the clash of overwhelming musics; and with confusion of sounds have cruelty, and ravening, and darkness, loathly mire and all putrescence of thought or thing, foul mists and violent flame, cold without mercy, been born, and death without hope. Yet is this through him and not by him; and he shall see, and ye all likewise, and even shall those beings, who must now dwell among his evil and endure through Melko misery and sorrow, terror and wickedness, declare in the end that it redoundeth only to my great glory, and doth but make the theme more worth the hearing, Life worth more the living, and the World so much the more wonderful and marvellous, and that of all the deeds of Ilúvatar it shall be called his mightiest and loveliest.

HoME I 2
And later was it not inscribed
When famed most three-part masterpiece
Of him that wrought in mind the holy musics
Began he to fashion fairest tale of Phantasie:
[T]hou, Melko, shalt see that no theme may be played that has not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempts this shall but aid me in devising things yet more wonderful, which he himself has not imagined. Through Melko have terror as fire, and sorrow like dark waters, wrath like thunder, and evil as far from my light as the uttermost depths of the dark place come into my design. In the confusion of sound were made pain and cruelty, devouring flame and cold without mercy, and death without hope. Yet he shall see that in the end this redounds only to the glory of the world, and this world shall be called of all the deeds of Ilúvatar the mightiest and most lovely.

HoME V 2 iv
Alas! that in my hand I not
The later designs and histories have,
Or yet, that I should have misplaced
My copy of that which Christopher cobbled,
His son, out of his myriad manuscripts.
Yet I implore you, I entreat upon your soul
O hackers three, to turn from
Your treacherous treading and beg
Forgiveness from him who
This fair site founded.

Return I shall, when respite from
Academic abomination have I gained
and hope that here shall I find
Ravagers repenting of their wrack.

[Boromir88]

Elf-warrior, I wouldn't be such a Bleak Bill, let's look at the positives of the situation.

1. We have the numerical advantage
2. We have mods to help us
3. I have the best virus protection programs available and have been trained by hackers to know how they operate and thus am a far better hacker than these amatuers running around causing some tiny glitches.

[Formendacil]

Alas! that in my hand I not
The later designs and histories have,
Or yet, that I should have misplaced
My copy of that which Christopher cobbled,
His son, out of his myriad manuscripts.
Yet I implore you, I entreat upon your soul
O hackers three, to turn from
Your treacherous treading and beg
Forgiveness from him who
This fair site founded.

Return I shall, when respite from
Academic abomination have I gained
and hope that here shall I find
Ravagers repenting of their wrack.


*cough cough* Indulging in first-person Tolkien fanfiction? And poorly done blank verse at that? Bless me! I would not have expected that from you, Master Ainulindalephiliac.

The fact that you see the forest and utterly miss the individual Ents--that I do find typical of your limited perspecture. Certainly, from the point of view outside Time that is the Music of the Ainur, there is no need to worry that in the long run, all things shall redound to Eru's glory, but to leave it at that, as your quotes would seem to do, is to utterly forget the entire corpus of the Middle-earth canon, which expressly requires darkness and death to achieve eucatastrophe. And while I certainly look forward to the eucatastrophe, I think we should perhaps consider whether we would rather be the Entwives--enslaved and destroyed along the way--or like the Hobbits who persevere toward a victory. Mark me well, though: it is a long, hard road to Orodruin.

[Nerwen]

Nerwen, you said for us to talk. Ok, here goes. Nerwen, are you a party in the murder of The Barrow-Wight?

no IM not. r U? Y R U accusng oThr Ppl???!! u must hav somthn 2 hide!!!111!!!

Well, this is rather discomfiting, to be sure, but no one should be taking any alarm here. I mean, really... good guys die all the time in Tolkien--especially if they're leaderly sorts. Take a quick glance over the Silmarillion, if you don't believe me. In fewer pages than it takes Robert Jordan to waffle about whether or not one character is dead or not,

mi bRuther thnks wot rocks he has all teh books

i tried to rAed teh i of teH world but its borng!!! evry1 dRinks T all teh time!!! LEGGY ISNT IN IT!!!111!!! IT SUX!!!111!!!

Tolkien manages to kill off five High Kings of the Noldor, six sons of Fëanor (and his mum), the whole kingdom of Doriath, and more secondary and tertiary characters than you can count on an army's worth of thumbs.

waht r u takling abuot???!! tHat wasnt in teh movie??!!!

What should really be taken as crucially problematic here is that the Barrow-Wight wasn't just the forum's Fingolfin or Fingon--he was more in the line of Manwë or Eru. If he's dead, what chance does any of us have.

Still, Melkor can't win. Or Sauron. Or Herumor. Or any of the other successive waves of evil that Gandalf predicted.

Huh??!! suaron was taht big eVol dude but who r teh other gyus????!!! u R confsng me!1111!!!

All the same, let's not find ourselves in a latter-day Kin-slaying, as I rather fear we have.

i read that bit lews theriN killd hsi famly ppl called him teh kinslaer

EDIT: X'd with Nilp, Boro, Formendacil.

[Formendacil]

waht r u takling abuot???!! tHat wasnt in teh movie??!!!


Taken phonetically, you just asked me: "wat er you tackling a-boat? That wasn't in tea movie"

Seriously?

"Water, you tackling a boat? That wasn't in Tea Movie."

First of all, my name is not "water;" though your spelling makes me feel like I've had a lot of it--cold--dumped all over me. Secondly, I've never seen Tea Movie. Is it a sequel to Bee Movie, perchance?

Caustic criticism of your appalling lack of English (Tolkien must be rolling in his grave, chair at Oxford that he was) aside, you appear to be asking if something I said was in the movies. Allow me to be as crystal clear as possible: No.

The movies are not canon. Nor are the movies even capable of covering the entire Lord of the Rings, let alone the entire Silmarillion. Though, now that it's brought up... there should be a High King of the Noldor getting killed off in the Prologue. If they're going to mess with the order of the tale and take the recounting of the Last Alliance from its proper place at the "Council of Elrond," the least they could do is include a quick sideways visual of a dead Gil-galad as a hint that they have a clue what actually takes place in the work they're butchering.

[Nerwen]

The movies are not canon.

thier wAsnt any canons in teh movies!!111 IT wAs mideval with sords & arrws!!!111!!! tehy didnt hav canons then!!!111 U R stpid!!!1111!! u dont no anythn abuot lord of teh rigns!!!111!!

[Boromir88]

Formen, have you met JRR Tolkien? I have.

Are you the creator of the Boromir Dictionary of Everything? The most comprehensive dictionary ever written. With every word known to man, in every possible language; even Latin, Pig-Latin, and Jumbo-Latin. It is also the only dictionary to have cracked every secret friendship language, and definitely the only one to include chatspeak. It has been adopted as the official dictionary of every country except France. Well, I am.

[Formendacil]

Formen, have you met JRR Tolkien? I have.

Are you the creator of the Boromir Dictionary of Everything? The most comprehensive dictionary ever written. With every word known to man, in every possible language; even Latin, Pig-Latin, and Jumbo-Latin. It is also the only dictionary to have cracked every secret friendship language, and definitely the only one to include chatspeak. It has been adopted as the official dictionary of every country except France. Well, I am.

Perhaps you can answer a question I've long had, then, Master 88, if you're so generally knowledgeable. Do Balrogs have wings, or not? Surely, you must know, if you are so skilled a linguist and personally acquainted with JRRT (Requiescat in Pacem).

[Kitanna]

3. I have the best virus protection programs available and have been trained by hackers to know how they operate and thus am a far better hacker than these amatuers running around causing some tiny glitches.
Oh really? So you can keep those viruses out? I bet then you can toss them into a forum so modest as this...
And trained by far better hackers, eh? I bet holding that sort of knowledge easily corrupts one.
thier wAsnt any canons in teh movies!!111 IT wAs mideval with sords & arrws!!!111!!! tehy didnt hav canons then!!!111 U R stpid!!!1111!! u dont no anythn abuot lord of teh rigns!!!111!!
What is a sord? And a rigns?

[satansaloser2005]

Where's Shasta when you need him? :confused:



Wow. Poor Barrow-Wight. You know, I have a feeling that there are some Fenrir Greyback fangirls/boys in our midst. And who's the only self-professed fangirl here? That's right. I think Nerwen's a blasted little hacker. I mean, what does it take, really, to be a hacker? A normal person. An idiot. Micke....I mean, Nerwen. Anyone else on board with my theory?


Or the butler did it. WADSWORTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *pause* Oh wait. We don't have a butler, do we? Shoot. Well, let's go with the evil fangurl theory then.




EDIT: x'd with Form and Kit

[Nerwen]

Oh really? So you can keep those viruses out? I bet then you can toss them into a forum so modest as this...
And trained by far better hackers, eh? I bet holding that sort of knowledge easily corrupts one.

i didnt see taht kitanna!!111!! boro siad he is a haxOR!!!

You know, I have a feeling that there are some Fenrir Greyback fangirls/boys in our midst. And who's the only self-professed fangirl here? That's right. I think Nerwen's a blasted little hacker. I mean, what does it take, really, to be a hacker? A normal person. An idiot.

thEn it must be u cuz ur an idjit. hary potter sux!!!111!!! LOL!!!111!!!

EDIT: fixed bolding. Even fangurls need to get that right.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

*cough cough* Indulging in first-person Tolkien fanfiction? And poorly done blank verse at that? Bless me! I would not have expected that from you, Master Ainulindalephiliac. (FormenDAGA)It has been foresung that I should do what I have done. Dare you take arms against fate, Master Canonist? Know you then what befell Túrin, who in his ignorance called himself Turambar, but was caught in the fate he thought he had mastered?

The fact that you see the forest and utterly miss the individual Ents--that I do find typical of your limited perspecture. Certainly, from the point of view outside Time that is the Music of the Ainur, there is no need to worry that in the long run, all things shall redound to Eru's glory, but to leave it at that, as your quotes would seem to do, is to utterly forget the entire corpus of the Middle-earth canon, which expressly requires darkness and death to achieve eucatastrophe. And while I certainly look forward to the eucatastrophe, I think we should perhaps consider whether we would rather be the Entwives--enslaved and destroyed along the way--or like the Hobbits who persevere toward a victory. Mark me well, though: it is a long, hard road to Orodruin. (FormenDAGA)Why have we been called here together? Are we not all here to take the selfsame journey to Orodruin, using to the utmost all the strength of our wits and intuition, and trusting Eru that he will step into the resounding theme of evil and repay our estel?

No, actually. You're here to get rid of the hackers.

I see . . . then to arms, my fellows! Let the cowards keep the site! Follow me to the dread fortress of the hackers, and we shall wrest from them what is rightfully ours!

[Eönwë]

Wow, I can't believe the Barrow-Wight is dead. How will we survive without him? How will this forum survive without him? What are we going to do?

I say we get these hackers!

[Eönwë]

As for who is a hacker... I have an idea:

It was the first three people who commented (After Kath). Because....

Two of them have the word "dead" in either their title or signature. Why would they do that? I think it's code so that they can recognise each other, but not make it tooo obvious. Also, they happen to be followed by only one word. Is that their hacker nickname? (s3r10us and r1gh7 possibly).

And the ringleader is... the fangurl. She has "evil" in her signature does she not, and it even implies that now she is evil.

I rest my case.



Another brain-busting theory from your friendly neighbourhood Eönwë.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

It has been sung that the environment has an effect on a person's mind. Why, look at Morgoth; he started camping in the shadows, and thus darkness he brought to the Ainulindalë. So where would our mysterious hacker come from?

Almost, but not quite, Aman:
Kitanna
Shastanis Althreduin
Rikae
Durelin
The Elf-Warrior
satansaloser2005
THE Ka
McCaber

Almost, but not quite, Araman:
Nerwen
Boromir88
Formendacil

Almost, but not quite, foundered Beleriand:
Kath
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Eönwë
Mithalwen
The Sixth Wizard

Almost, but not quite, the land of Quenya:
Aganzir
Nogrod

And then there's me, the Easterling. *gulps* Is it that Eru has ordained an early death for me?

[Nerwen]

now this fangUrls radar iz going PING. (i was jokng abuot sally. haRy potter stil sux tHo)

ppl who do lots of loNg posts sayng nUthing & then maek liSts taht dont maek sence r up 2 sumthing IMHO.

[Durelin]

The sun had risen high into the sky by the time Durelin arrived at the town square (OOC: the center of town, whether it is square or not…or wherever the action is taking place), tossing her cloak over her shoulder to leave her sword's hilt uncovered. She absent-mindedly placed her hand on the hilt every so often, as she observed carefully the world around her using all of her honed senses. Normally she would be relatively at ease in a village such as this, especially in the light of day – though she never let her guard down – but…werewolves were among them. Nothing was what it seemed, day or night.

The villagers were beginning to gather, as word spread of the untimely demise of their mayor, the great Wight, and Durelin came to offer her abundant knowledge of the things of the wild and things of the Dark Lord. But besides her undeniable desire to help others, Durelin was driven by the icy-hot passion of revenge. Whenever she thought of her parents and what had been left of them when she found them that morning, her fiery soul froze over. They had murdered, mutilated, and masticated her parents in the night, those creatures…those werewolves.

She had been but thirteen years old, when she was left an orphan. She wandered for several days, perhaps hoping that the wolves would take her as well. But it was not to be, it was not her time. On the third day, she heard a gorgeous vibrato among the trees of the forest she wandered, and stole carefully toward the voice. She had come upon a group of elves traveling to the western shores! The elves took Durelin to Rivendell, to Imladris, to see Elrond himself, in the Last Homely House, and there she stayed for five years. She quickly grew fluent in the Elvish language and became skilled with a bow and sword, as well as with the lyre and harp, as well as with making lembas and braiding hair…

Durelin resisted a sigh. Oh, the memories…the sweet nostalgia of those happiest days after the loss of her parents…they gave her hope, even now, to save the children of this village from becoming orphans themselves. ‘Estel, o entulien mellon orlien larenia namarie mellon dagnir,’ she whispered an elfish prayer in her parents’ memory.

“My name is Durelin,” the wanderer of the wilds introduced herself, “and I hail from down the block. I am bound not only by my oath of revenge but also by my inherent good nature and benevolence, which beseeches me to help others, to aid this village in its struggle with these howling creatures of the darkest night. You have my one-handed sword of suffering and my bow of piercing, as well as my heavy shield of the stalwart, and my cloak of the shadows with +1 to my stealth level and detection.”

Last edited by Durelin : 07-05-08 at 3:45 am. Reason: signature.

(Really OOC: It’s almost 4 am here. All I can manage is silliness. Yes, yes, got carried away.)

[Nogrod]

Now please Form and Nilp, even if the situation is grave we shouldn't forget the basic principles the B-W has established. So no flaming or personal vendetta's here. They are not only against good manners but also tend to confuse our preliminary task of finding out the villains.

And even if everyone has a right to his or her personal expression it would be most convenient if the others were able to understand what you say in the first place.

And to make a third point. Hiding behind the role surely is the best option the hackers have toDay as this is so hilarious. It would be most fun to do as well.

I'm going to my tent and will try to come up with some handy rules for this outside-Forum discussion so that everything runs smoothly and no one gets offended or anything. Try to behave meanwhile. I'll be back late in the Day with hopefully a thing or two to say.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Oh dear, it seems that, due to my late(ish) arrival, the board has already been inundated with chatspeak!

...Oh, no, wait, that's just Nerwen. Repeat offender, but she's mostly harmless.

...Although now, with the Barrow-Wight dead, some of us are indeed not "harmless" at all.

If anyone needs help understanding our resident chatspeaker, give me a shout!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Manwë has whispered to my ear that I should find the following to be suspicious of hearkening to Melko's overwhelming musics:

Durelin


Nerwen


Nogrod

You are not without a chance to defend yourselves. The Aratar shall convene at Mahanáxar, and they shall hear your pleas of innocence.

May Mandos have mercy upon you.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Right guys, I mean, whoa, I just switched off my Leona Lewis CD, bangin' as it is, because this is, totally serious, and deserves, attention, y'know?

I have a suggestion, to help catch the hackers, because I am currently doing, a business psychology class, which is really cool, and useful, and it'll totally get me a fast career, know? This pshycology class basicaly says that, like, people, will show themselves if ur clever enough to see inside their souls. So because I've been taking these classes I think I could really help us find the hackers.

Firstly, Nilpaurion Felagund and Formendacil are totally making my brain hurt!?!?! Srsly guys, what are you talking bout? I thought this was a LotR get-together, or something, because, all that hocus-pocus stuff?!?!?! Srsly dudes, whatever.

I don't like the way Nerwen talks. She is showing, no respect, for the English language, or something?!?!? She cud be trying to confuse us?!?!?

Boromir88 sounds pretty amazing. Dude, I cant believe you did all that stuff!?! lol

Durelin, I feel sorry for you, I hope you can get thru this dificult time.

Gawd, I wish I could hang out with my peeps at the mall!!?!! I don't like it here, much, y'know?!?!??

[Nerwen]

if ppl th1nk oth3r ppl R evul they should say Y.

1f they dont it looks liek their hiding beh1nd th3ir r0les.

shaSta iz here n0w & wil transl8 4 u all

EDIT: x'd with Eomer.

[Nerwen]

I have a suggestion, to help catch the hackers, because I am currently doing, a business psychology class, which is really cool, and useful, and it'll totally get me a fast career, know?

u will hav 2 run fast bringing reel biznusmen thier coffee!!!11!! ROFL!!!! u geddit????!!!

This pshycology class basicaly says that, like, people, will show themselves if ur clever enough to see inside their souls. So because I've been taking these classes I think I could really help us find the hackers.

O RLY??!!!?? whats ins1de my sole then??? u must be able 2 see since ur so cl3ver!!111!!! LOL!!!!11!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Wow, Nerwen, I'm seriosly not LOLing here, how can you just, like, say stuff, about ppl on the internet like that, it's really not cool and quite offensive, so seriosly, get off my case, y'know?!?

And it totally doesnt take a rocket scientist to see inside you're soul, because your posts are quite stupid so, like, get what I'm saying?!?!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Nerwen, Mandos has told me, looks rather innocent.

I wish to hear from those whose melodies have not been hear.

I shall be back, Eru willing, ere the closing of this DAY.

You'll really wake up at 5 in the bloody morning for this?

The doom of timezones has been upon me since the creation of Eä. It is my duty to do what I could to overcome this hard fate.

[Nerwen]

Wow, Nerwen, I'm seriosly not LOLing here, how can you just, like, say stuff, about ppl on the internet like that, it's really not cool and quite offensive, so seriosly, get off my case, y'know?!?

And it totally doesnt take a rocket scientist to see inside you're soul, because your posts are quite stupid so, like, get what I'm saying?!?!

UR ST00PID111!!! ROXCET SCEINTSTS DONT SEE INSIDE PPLS SOLES THEY MAKE ROKCETS!!!111 PWNED11111!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Nerwen, Mandos has told me, looks rather innocent.

u said i was listening to melko & now u say mandos says im inocent. who r they??? is melko a band? y did u change ur mind so qu1ckly???

Y doesnt any1 here talk abuot teh lord of teh rings??? i thought this was a fanclub ware we cud talk about our favrit chars!!!1~!1 mines legalos he is soooo hawt!111!!!

but evry1 just goes on & on abuot wierd stuff that isnt ev3n in teh movies!!!!1 i thnk sum of those ppl cud be sneaky warewolfs

[The Sixth Wizard]

Yes, yes, got carried away.

The correct grammar is I got carried away. :eek::mad: If you use a fragment in the place of a sentence again I may have to hurt you.



Wow, Nerwen is making my brain hurt. I say we vote her because:

a) Reading that kind of text will be really annoying later in the game for everyone.

b) Nerwen knows this and if she really is a wolf and she survives, she will go under the radar later in the game. (I personally am NOT going to read that in a longer post than three lines, it hurts my head)

and

c) I've got nothing on anyone else.

[Mithalwen]

Good afternoon, Dr Mithalwen, here. Not so many..err .. case notes as there might be given the size of the therapy group but it is still early and I expect there will be a lot more going on later when I return after this afternoon's case load. Does mean at least I have been able to read through. My conclusions? Excellent humour but as I am sure we all know humour is often used as a facade to cover childhood trauma, insecurity, low self esteem maybe even hacker/lycanthropy?

Maybe we need a group therapy session - perhaps some people have things they would like to share? No?

I think one or two of us could benefit from one on one sessions.

Eomer is clearly an HSP which could result in anger management issues.

Nerwen is clearly profoundly dyslexic (I am too old to cope easily with chat speak - Shasta, I may need your help).

Then we have the battle of the egos - Formy, Noggin Boro and probably others.

Nilp and Durelin are well .... to use a layman's term, away with the fairies.

Enough material for an entire conference from half a village!!!.

But not a lot to go on for the task in hand - well I will be back in a few hours a will try to make a more significant contribution.

[Nerwen]

this IC stuff maeks it hard 2 get a grip. most ppl havent posted enuf anyWAy.

sum thuoghts:

teh n00b eönwë casts random suspic10ns on ppl. probaly just his r0le. he mite be usng it as cover tho.

sally & kitanna do this a bit 2 but looks like first post joking.

durelin has made 1 long long post all about her char. cud be snaeky but its only her first post.

nogrod looks vary smooth. cud be role??? cud be using role??? has only maed 1 post.

formendacil and nilp hav argued a lot withuot rly saying anything, paticlrly nilp. he says things about ppl & doesnt xplain & he makes lists withuot any r3soning behind th3m. i dont lyke that. but cud stil be role. or using role???

hed huRts!!!!1111!!!

not enuf 2 go on yet. 6 ppl (Aganzir, THE Ka, The Sixth Wizard, Mithalwen, McCaber) havnt even posted.

WARE R U GUYS??!!!111!!!!!

EDIT: fixed bolding

EDIT 2: x'd with Sixth Wizard & Mithalwen.

[Nerwen]

Nerwen is clearly profoundly dyslexic

UR MEAN!!!111! I AM NOT DISLektic!!!! SPELLING SI BOR1NG!!! IF LEGGY WAS HEAR HED SHOOT U FULL OF AROWES!!!!1111!!1

Wow, Nerwen is making my brain hurt. I say we vote her because:

a) Reading that kind of text will be really annoying later in the game for everyone.

ur mean too. my sp3ll1ng & grammer will get lots better soon. its hard 2 keep th1s up u no.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

formendacil and nilp hav argued a lot withuot rly saying anything, paticlrly nilp. he says things about ppl & doesnt xplain & he makes lists withuot any r3soning behind th3m. i dont lyke that. but cud stil be role. or using role??? (N3rw3m)Need I explain my thoughts?It wouldn't hurt anyone for me to tell, so . . .

Despite the headache you give to most of this gathering (fashioned as I am by Eru's hands to discern the thoughts of Elves and Men, it hurts me not), you seem geniune in your endeavour to aid this community.

I should warn you though that the shape your thoughts take form on our screens makes you vulnerable to those confused by Melkor's discord, or perchance you know it already. Votes for you for 'IC reasons' may well disguise the perversion of their thoughts.

[Aganzir]

I think Nerwen's a blasted little hacker.
What do you think of satansaloser2005's post?
( ) I approve
(x) I disapprove
I think she's rather the spammer. -Agan

I am too lazy to come up with reasons to neg-rep you all right now so maybe I just try to talk something and neg-rep only when I really feel like it.

Anyone want to confess?
Me! Me! Me!

Still, Melkor can't win. Or Sauron. Or Herumor. Or any of the other successive waves of evil that Gandalf predicted.
Oh why do you think so?

3. I have the best virus protection programs available and have been trained by hackers to know how they operate and thus am a far better hacker than these amatuers running around causing some tiny glitches.
*sits back and eagerly waits for Boro to demonstrate his skills by outing the hackers in a minute*

Guilty:
Elf-Warrior. Two posts, requiring yes or no answers to the question "Did You Kill The Barrow-Wight?". Somehow secretive attitude and claims to have no part in BW's murder.
Kitanna. One post, jokingly accusing Boro about his hacker post. Ends her post by inquiring about Nerwen's typos, for it would have felt suspicious if she had only talked about one thing before disappearing again.
sally. Feels too comfortable.
Sixth. One post and speaks only of Nerwen, telling why we should vote for her.

In general I don't like half-accusing one person and barely mentioning anyone else in the first post.

I hate to be a spoilsport, but funny as posting IC is, I think it could be done to a lesser extent. For if the day keeps going on like this, I might have to *shudders* vote randomly. :eek: And I just noticed I can't take Nerwen's posts seriously when she's talking like that.

edit: xed with Nerwen and Nilp

[Formendacil]

Then we have the battle of the egos - Formy, Noggin Boro and probably others.

While there is clearly ego in play, I wish it to stand for the record that my vigorous defence is solely motivated by a desire to see Tolkien's works as Tolkien's work--not as some fanfictionated, Hollywoodised, Dungeons-and-Dragons, Dwarf-belching crap.

It has been foresung that I should do what I have done. Dare you take arms against fate, Master Canonist? Know you then what befell Túrin, who in his ignorance called himself Turambar, but was caught in the fate he thought he had mastered?

.....

Why have we been called here together? Are we not all here to take the selfsame journey to Orodruin, using to the utmost all the strength of our wits and intuition, and trusting Eru that he will step into the resounding theme of evil and repay our estel?

Surely you, of all people, Master Felagund, have forgotten the Doom of Men? Just because the Ainulindalë says only that the Third Theme (the Children of Ilúvatar) were conceived in the mind of Eru alone does not mean you could not step outside of your most favoured book and realise that the Doom of Men means both that:

Men are not bound to fate.

And, I'm afraid, escaping the circles of Arda is looking entirely too easy at the moment.

Now please Form and Nilp, even if the situation is grave we shouldn't forget the basic principles the B-W has established. So no flaming or personal vendetta's here. They are not only against good manners but also tend to confuse our preliminary task of finding out the villains.

You'll clearly never be made moderator if you can't distinguish between flaming and a serious discussion. Nilp and I may differ on several key points, but at least we can dialogue, which is more than can be said for certain members.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I hate to be a spoilsport, but funny as posting IC is, I think it could be done to a lesser extent. For if the day keeps going on like this, I might have to *shudders* vote randomly. :eek: And I just noticed I can't take Nerwen's posts seriously when she's talking like that. (Aganzir)I think FormenDAGA, villainous though he may be, will agree with me when I say that DAY 1s are :rolleyes:.

Need we continue these modes of conversation the next DAY? It would present an air of versimilitude in the game but aid in our hunting of evil it does not.

The problem is that you have taken on personae, not mere occupations.

Well, it is making me laugh.

[Nerwen]

Okay, okay, I get the message. Besides, I'm giving myself a headache. Tough luck, Shasta, you weren't around when I needed you, so you're out of a job now. (Perhaps you could translate my earlier posts, for the benefit of those who aren't bilingual?)

I still won't take anyone dissing the movies in general or Legolas in particular though (Mmmn! Leggy! So hawt!)

Nilp, I still have no idea what that list of yours was all about, so can you please explain? I'm automatically suspicious of people who make lists of names with no explanations. On the other hand, I don't think a hacker/wolf would have said this:

I should warn you though that the shape your thoughts take form on our screens makes you vulnerable to those confused by Melkor's discord, or perchance you know it already. Votes for you for 'IC reasons' may well disguise the perversion of their thoughts.

EDIT: X'd with Formendacil, Nilpaurion.

[Formendacil]

Oh why do you think so?

I feel I should probably leave this for Nilpaurion to explain... he practically has a Ph.D in "and everything shall redound to Eru's glory"ism.

That and it's the recurring motif of Middle-earth: Evil may triumph for a time, but Good is ultimately always triumphant--even if you have to wait an Age for it.

I hate to be a spoilsport, but funny as posting IC is, I think it could be done to a lesser extent. For if the day keeps going on like this, I might have to *shudders* vote randomly. :eek: And I just noticed I can't take Nerwen's posts seriously when she's talking like that.

Umm... that is the whole point of IC posting, is it not? On Day 1 there are no patterns and merely random accusations and voting. If the IC persists into Day 2, then it is well and good to complain, but on Day 1 there is nought else to go by, in any game, for the seeming randomness of the Wolves will only be brought to clarity in hindsight.


And... speaking of random voting, I won't be back before NIGHTfall (work all day, then an ordination), so suspect me all you like, but you'll not be able to accuse me of sneaking onto any bandwaggons.

++Nogrod

Because what would make a better cover for a hacker looking to overthrow the existing Mods than a pathetic wannabe-Mod? No one would suspect it.

Except I just did.

Well, so much for that theory... but votes are irretractable, and there really is no way to analyse one's way to a decent conclusion on Day 1.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Surely you, of all people, Master Felagund, have forgotten the Doom of Men? Just because the Ainulindalë says only that the Third Theme (the Children of Ilúvatar) were conceived in the mind of Eru alone does not mean you could not step outside of your most favoured book and realise that the Doom of Men means both that:

Men are not bound to fate. (FormenDAGA)How then, Milord of the North, do you explain the woe that Túrin betided? Surely it was not by Morgoth wrought, most puissant though he may be of all creation. Was it not the weavings of fate enmeshed in the lives of him and of those that he loved?

Nilp, I still have no idea what that list of yours was all about, so can you please explain? (Nerwen)It was a jest involving our locations in the real world, where I present myself as the only one from 'evil lands' (i.e., Rhûn)--unless you count the desolate wastes of Araman as evil. (FormenDAGA and Boromir88, at the least, would beg to differ.)

[Aganzir]

That and it's the recurring motif of Middle-earth: Evil may triumph for a time, but Good is ultimately always triumphant--even if you have to wait an Age for it.
But we're not exactly in Middle-earth now. We're in the Barrow-Downs meeting. ;)

Umm... that is the whole point of IC posting, is it not? On Day 1 there are no patterns and merely random accusations and voting. If the IC persists into Day 2, then it is well and good to complain, but on Day 1 there is nought else to go by, in any game, for the seeming randomness of the Wolves will only be brought to clarity in hindsight.
Yes, but in my opinion there has been enough completely IC posting for day 1. At some point posts must begin to have some serious things as well.

++Nogrod

Because what would make a better cover for a hacker looking to overthrow the existing Mods than a pathetic wannabe-Mod? No one would suspect it.
Ooh a hacker trying to kill someone who BW might well have chosen for a mod before his death! Nog's a sneaky guy, I wouldn't put it past him not to reveal he's been chosen and keep going on with that I-wish-I-were-a-mod thing.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Ooh a hacker trying to kill someone who BW might well have chosen for a mod before his death! Nog's a sneaky guy, I wouldn't put it past him not to reveal he's been chosen and keep going on with that I-wish-I-were-a-mod thing. (Aganzir)Eager for his blood, are we now, dear?

Eager for anyone's innocent blood, perchance?

[Aganzir]

Eager for his blood, are we now, dear?

Eager for anyone's innocent blood, perchance?
Oh no that is not possible at all! I am always sweet and innocent. *neg-reps Nilp*

I'll be off for some hours now.

[Nerwen]

There's something very funny going on here. It's like I'm in the wrong fan club. I thought we'd talk about interesting stuff like who's hotter, Leggy or Aragon? Instead people go about some other movie or something with people who are, like, totally not in the real movie!!! It's weird!!!

–Okay, things have started heating up a bit.

Maybe I'm taking things too personally, but I'm not keen on the The Sixth Wizard's first and so far only post. He should have known perfectly well that nobody is going to keep up this IC stuff the whole game. Looks like very forced reasoning.

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

I'm not prepared to vote anyone yet; besides, I have to go. Back in a few hours. Hopefully, there will be more to go on by then.

I'm off to dream of Leggy!!! ZMOG HE IS TEH AWESOME!!!111!!!

[Kitanna]

ppl who do lots of loNg posts sayng nUthing & then maek liSts taht dont maek sence r up 2 sumthing IMHO.
Sometimes in the nothing the most is said.

Yes, but in my opinion there has been enough completely IC posting for day 1. At some point posts must begin to have some serious things as well.
Maybe some of these post have seriousness hidden within them. It's always a matter of reading between the lines. And sometimes the more people hide behind ICs the easier it can become to decipher votes on Day 2. Also being IC has, in the past, been a way for hackers to fly under the radar for a few days. I'd say don't encourage or discourage IC posts, some may be more useful tomorrow or some may remain simple rubbish and mean nothing. If for no other reason many are quite amusing. ;)

That's all I'll add on IC posts. Simply because I know I will be gone in two hours and I won't be back before night falls. So I will be poking in periodically to check posts and review old ones in order to cast my vote.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I think Nerwen is too silly to be a wolf. Come on, this thing she has with Legolas?!? PREDICTABLE!!!!1 Oh wow, lets all be a little girl, and like legolas. BORING!!! What about the other people in the movie who are just as hot? I think this is a serious issue. Also the way she was VERY rude to me earlier, it all adds up, she is too IMMATURE to be a hacker..

Anyway I think people like Kitanna and Mithalwen are way creepier.

[Kitanna]

I was hoping someone would post before I have to go to work. But since no one has I will just present my list of what I think thus far. The list is based on those who have posted and the impression their post(s) made on me.

Moderately Suspicious-
Agan, Nilp, & Form- Their back and forth posts together suggests a hacker among them. Maybe even two, but I am more inclined to believe there is just one. Though I am not so sure as to which one yet. Form is the only one to have voted thus far, but I feel no malice with his vote or reasoning toward early voting.
Nerwen- Her short, IC posts obviously say little, but her more serious posts give little to go on as well. I'd like to see what she has to say about the Agan/Nilp/Form brawl she mentioned in her last post.
The Elf-warrior- A few yes or no questions, but hasn't said anything since. I put moderately suspicious because even though the two posts were in character Elf-warrior was quick to jump to his own defense. For the record, I am not a party to the murder of the Barrow-Wight. I find it suspicious because no one had put out any lists or anything yet. It always unsettles me for early defenses/ for the record statements so early.
The Sixth Wizard- Quick to advocate a vote for Nerwen. It seems in character, but I'll label this as a gut feeling because I don't get much from his post.
Unsure-
Kath- She said she wouldn't be around much today, so for right now I have no concern for her. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Boromir 88- I really just want to see more from him before forming more than a joke suspicion from my first post.
satansaloser2005- Nothing much can be gathered from her first post.
Eonwe- Same as many of the others here in my unsure bin.
Durelin, Eomer, Mith & Shasta- ^ Same

I have no suspicions that absolutely scream out to me as "Hacker!" which is why I have two categories here. Right now there's no one person I feel too strongly about in regards to guilt or innocence. So my vote (whcih will be in the next twenty minutes) will be selected from my moderately suspicious list. I can hope and dream there's an influx of posts between then and now, but I doubt that. So we shall see, eh?

[Mithalwen]

Men are not bound to fate.
.

Well at the Tolkien society seminar I attended last Saturday that was with Free Will one of the major themes and without preempting the reports I shall write over the weekend both for the Downs and possibly Amon Hen, I can say that it isn't that simple. Oops that will no doubt to incur the wrath of the canonicist & the one upper and doesn't really get us any further on.

Kitanna speaks wisely. Though noone has yet (that I have noticed)expressed a hatred of Day Ones - though that was quite a common condition, it tended to be followed by a failure to see Night one so I believe it has a latent form! This is a big group and it may make it easier for people to keep a low profile so I would rather people spoke (even in eyeplitting chatspeak) than not. It is possible to make useful points in an amusing way and those games where noone says anything or merely repeats others' words without adding any insight or useful comment are tedious. Only danger is that the amusement can become a distraction....

OK I am going to read through and see if there is any substance in some of the more complex posts I only skimmed before, then I need to get something to eat and will be back for a long spell but not to the end... hopefully I will have a better idea of who to vote for by then rather than just choosing the most annoying!!!

[Kitanna]

++ Nerwen

She jumps forth because though she has been mostly in character, I had seen something that raises my eyebrow.
ppl who do lots of loNg posts sayng nUthing & then maek liSts taht dont maek sence r up 2 sumthing IMHO.

Nerwen jumps out because she posts often and says little. Granted most of her posts were in character jargon and her most recent ones are serious and moving away from IC, but she makes a note to say those who make long lists, but say nothing are suspicious. I find people who make frequent short posts that say nothing equally suspicious. Which is why I now vote for Nerwen. Though she is only moderately suspicious in my eyes she stands out from the others on my list.

[Nogrod]

Early votes may be a bit harder to justify in general - I mean to give credible grounds for them - but I do not like the way either Form or Kit give their votes.

Form backs it twice: saying it's a random one and using IC reasons (I know he used to be the most staunch Day1-hater there was but still that is pretty much downgrading the whole Day 1). Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

That's not much I must say. If I'd need to guess I'd say Form is the hacker from the two, but the thing that I disagree with him so heavily over the usefulness of Day1's may cloud my vision here - and the fact that "just randomly" he voted for me... :rolleyes:

I will be around later toDay a bit more and try to do something more constructive then. Gah. This has been pathetic from me (but sorry no time now).

[Eönwë]

There's not much to work with, but...


Agan, Nilp, & Form- Their back and forth posts together suggests a hacker among them. Maybe even two, but I am more inclined to believe there is just one. Though I am not so sure as to which one yet. Form is the only one to have voted thus far, but I feel no malice with his vote or reasoning toward early voting.?

This is true. One of them might very well be a hacker. But we haven't seen enough of anyone to really be certain.

Nerwen is doing anything useful. She's just randomly posting stuff. Spamming the thread, methinks. In fact, maybe she's our spammer. Or is that Nilp. He's not making much sense or anything of his posts. I'd better ponder this further...

edit: to bolden names.

[satansaloser2005]

There's something very funny going on here. It's like I'm in the wrong fan club. I thought we'd talk about interesting stuff like who's hotter, Leggy or Aragon? Instead people go about some other movie or something with people who are, like, totally not in the real movie!!! It's weird!!!

–Okay, things have started heating up a bit.

Maybe I'm taking things too personally, but I'm not keen on the The Sixth Wizard's first and so far only post. He should have known perfectly well that nobody is going to keep up this IC stuff the whole game. Looks like very forced reasoning.

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.

I'm not prepared to vote anyone yet; besides, I have to go. Back in a few hours. Hopefully, there will be more to go on by then.

I'm off to dream of Leggy!!! ZMOG HE IS TEH AWESOME!!!111!!!




Sacred bovine! She speaks English!

You know, this TOTALLY reminds me of Goblet of Fire, where stupid Fudge was being played by the Bulgarian minister. "You speak English?!?!?!?" "Yeah, totally, but it's fun watching you make an idiot out of yourself." Alternatively, if any of you would take your noses out of your Silms and watch The Interpreter, you'd see much the same thing, except it isn't nearly as funny. The entire UN ends up looking like idiots though; then again, what else isn't new? ;)



Okay, sorry for being gone so long. Erm, you know the scene in The Princess Bride where Buttercup pushes Westley down the ravine outside the firswamp and he goes *roll roll roll pain ouch roll*? I pretty much did that last night. Heh so I kind of felt like a long nap. ANYWAY, I'm going to go read the posts again and maybe get my Nancy Drew on.

[Eönwë]

Now please Form and Nilp, even if the situation is grave we shouldn't forget the basic principles the B-W has established. So no flaming or personal vendetta's here. They are not only against good manners but also tend to confuse our preliminary task of finding out the villains.

You'll clearly never be made moderator if you can't distinguish between flaming and a serious discussion. Nilp and I may differ on several key points, but at least we can dialogue, which is more than can be said for certain members.

So even when Noggie tries to calm things down, Formy lashes back at him . Harsh? I think so.

Maybe Formendacil is actually our spammer. He's disguising his troublemaking as sensible or simply long posts. He's already set up a discord around him (reminds you of Melkor, does it not). He's managed to pick a fight with almost half of us (ok, I exaggerate) and it's not even the end of Day 1.

In fact maybe he's "For men to kill", i.e. a werewolf. They also like stirring things up and caussing trouble among innocents.



And the Elf-Warrior is just scary.

[Mithalwen]

Well Nogrod you have participated more than many already.

As for the votes - I found Nerwen annoying but I don't know if that is just the first day banter or something more sinister. It is such a change from her usual calm, almost calculating style that I find it hard to judge. Maybe she is just having fun.

Formys vote was ... interesting .. I know day one can produce random votes but this seemed to have more to it ... is there some vendetta that I haven't noticed? I do remember Formy used to hate Day ones - I was thinking of him in my previous post.

And there are still a lot of people who I haven't even looked at really..... and it is a bit quieter than I expected - even from those who aren't mourning their separation from my fair homeland :p. I hope there might be a bit more to look at before I too have to vote and go....

[Durelin]

But we're not exactly in Middle-earth now. We're in the Barrow-Downs meeting.

From the RPG proposal on the discussion thread:

Starting Location: Rivendell, Middle-earth (for the council)
Likely Destination: Mt. Doom, Mordor, Middle-earth

-------------

The game takes place in the Seventh Age around the year 2008.

Anyway.

Eomer amuses me. He feels frighteningly familiar... Boro amuses me. A lot. There's something about Formendacil's attitude I like. Kitanna is boring, and her vote is even more boring. The Sixth Wizard amuses me. Nogrod's role is just too Nogrod. I want to see how long Nilp keeps his role up. Elf-warrior's first post amuses me.

I guffaw at this:

Wow, I can't believe the Barrow-Wight is dead. How will we survive without him? How will this forum survive without him? What are we going to do?

I say we get these hackers!

Everyone I have not mentioned yet...don't feel too bad.

[THE Ka]

This pshycology class basicaly says that, like, people, will show themselves if ur clever enough to see inside their souls. So because I've been taking these classes I think I could really help us find the hackers.


Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.

WARE R U GUYS??!!!111!!!!!

'ware' the whether the weather of what? I think I was sleeping, because that is what normal people do in my timezone at 5 am.

Nerwen seems thoroughly drenched in the art of chatspeak, maybe she knows how to translate hacker. Or Boro's dictionary does.
Either way, I find her amusing. We should keep her around and see what happens. That or, some of the hackers are taking full advantage of our complete attention to try and translate her posts. Hmmm, conflict.

Form reminds me of an eagle scout (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/eaglescout.htm). ;) Which, if he is conspiring with the hackers, that could be a bit dangerous.

Sorry that I don't have much to say, but it's a bit of a busy day. More than likely I am going to have to vote randomly toDay, unfortunately. So much for sleeping in. :rolleyes:

~ Ka

[Kitanna]

Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.

Forced? If you believe so. But I would rather vote for one who raised my suspicions for even a remote reason on Day 1, then randomly pick a name from a hat.

[Mithalwen]

Souls and psychology? You mean a freudian method?

I need Mith to translate this, if you please.




~ Ka

Well Ka, as an atheist, Freud means the innermost being. We certainly could interpret today's events as being caused by the Ids of the hackers getting the upper hand, a conflict of libido and thanatos. Of course psychoanalysis is not a quick fix and the interpretation of dreams is probably not appropriate at this stage. We could try some free association? Or maybe Jung and see what the collective unconscious can provide lets not go with Laing - that could cause all sorts of problems.

Aiee I got distracted again. I have had a look at the posting numbers and Nerwen is certainly noisiest by a long way but then others have been sooo quiet. Over posting can be significant but so can quietness. I can stay about an hour but I do hope things will pick up. It seems a bit ironic that two "talkers" are the only ones voted for so far. I thought this would be a super noisy game but it seems to be being played by a lot of trappists so far. :(

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Whoa, Mithalwen, you're totally, well, dodgy to me. You keep talking about there being a lack of talking and how people have to say more, but, really, two things ........... 1. ur not saying much urself and 2. it's day 1 silly!?! There's not much going on!!!1?

Maybe your tryng to act all like your helpful and all that jazz?!? Because your laboring the point.

[Aganzir]

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.
This is not a rhetorical question, I want an answer. Why does it look like that? Is there some special way wolves can make people around them talk like they do? We three have just caught your attention, but is there something that should really suggest that at least one of us is a wolf?
I could ask the same from Kitanna. Just how do back and forth posts together suggest that there's a hacker or two?

I'd say don't encourage or discourage IC posts, some may be more useful tomorrow or some may remain simple rubbish and mean nothing.
And also some OOC posts may be more useful tomorrow while some remain simple rubbish. The question is whether I rather read posts written in chat speak or proper English. :p

Form backs it twice: saying it's a random one and using IC reasons (I know he used to be the most staunch Day1-hater there was but still that is pretty much downgrading the whole Day 1). Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.
I agree. Otherwise at least Kitanna feels somewhat innocentish, though, and I wouldn't vote for either of them now based only on that.

This is true. One of them might very well be a hacker. But we haven't seen enough of anyone to really be certain.

Nerwen is doing anything useful.
Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on. ;)

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself! :p

**

Guilty
Elf-Warrior. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Sixth. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Durelin. This is my most random suspicion this far, and I don't know a certain reason for it but her post(s) brought the word 'cobbler' into my mind.
Nerwen. She makes me uncomfortable and looks both guilty and innocent so I rather label her guilty. I don't know - there's something in the way she suspects people.
sally. I feel uneasy about her for a reason I don't know.

Innocent
Mith
Kitanna
Nogrod
Eönwë

Neither
Kath
Shasta
Ka
Nilp
Boro
Eomer
Form
Rikae
McC

[Eönwë]

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on. ;)

Doesn't make it her idea:p

[Eönwë]

I have had a look at the posting numbers
How do you do that?

[Mithalwen]

Well at the risk of sounding suspiciously helpfulyou go to the Mirth thread list and click on the number of replies and it will give you a breakdown by member. It is always interesting to know who has been posting and how much.

[Aganzir]

Doesn't make it her idea:p
But if she says something you find clever and can agree about, I think you shouldn't say she isn't doing anything. ;)

How do you do that?
By clicking Replies between Last Post and Views on the Mirth (or any else) forum.

I am planning to vote in an hour since I would love to get to sleep a bit earlier than during the last few days, and if I had to vote now it'd probably be for Sixth.

edit: xed with Mith

[Eönwë]

But if she says something you find clever and can agree about, I think you shouldn't say she isn't doing anything. ;)

True, true.

edit: WAIT A SECOND! I said she wasn't doing anything useful, not that she wasn't doing anything. You're twisting my words Aganzir. Sounds like wolfish behaviour to me.

[THE Ka]

Ka, you're a hacker! Defend yourself! :p

*looks at watch* - One... two, and three. Right on schedule.

I was wondering when you'd immediately add me to the evil list. Tisk, tisk, Aganzir you're growing a bit forgetful. Or is it just because you remembered you'll never let poor Radagast rest? ;)

I find this level of regression a bit alarming Lobelia, but I assure you that I am willing to put the past aside for the sake of this game if you are. Right now, I don't find you that suspicious. I mean, I can't see Brinn making you a wolf/hacker again after the last few games. It's too predictable.
If you are, then I know that the universe has lost all sense of surprise.

Thanks Mith. I was thinking about the Id, but I assumed that Eomer might have meant something a bit more on the Superego spectrum. Then I became a bit confused. Freud has never been one of my favourable interests, but I try to make sure I can identify a bit of his behavior.
I'm more in the sociological field. In which case, I would have to say that Eomer's experience in the business subculture has become one of his ascribed roles, and possibly a master status in his reasoning. Though, his assumed role as a form member is causing a bit of social inconsistency. Which is perfectly fine, we all have some inconsistency. :)

I'm sure a bunch of people are gun-ho about voting for Agan-Nilp-Form bangwagon, but I dunno. I'll feel horribly disappointed in the universe if Agan at least is a hacker out of the three. I need an existential detective, and more time on choosing my horribly random vote to go with all the life drama of the first day.

~ Ka

[Nogrod]

My dad went asleep and I seem to have what... 1½ hours to do something useful. Okay. I'll start with having a cigarette (gah, there goes the mod-status :().

I still have my faith on Day 1's being possibly productive and I'm not going to give it up just because of one Day1 when I have not had a chance to do any thinking beside the PC. *fits the IC-situation as well! :)*

[Boromir88]

I was wondering how long Nerwen would keep up her wildly headaching causing chatspeak. I am wondering whether some are suspicious of her because they actually believe she is a hacker, or if she's just annoying us all with her chatspeak.

Case and point, Kitanna's suspicions and The Sixth's:
Nerwen jumps out because she posts often and says little. Granted most of her posts were in character jargon and her most recent ones are serious and moving away from IC, but she makes a note to say those who make long lists, but say nothing are suspicious. I find people who make frequent short posts that say nothing equally suspicious. Which is why I now vote for Nerwen. Though she is only moderately suspicious in my eyes she stands out from the others on my list.~Kitanna
Wow, Nerwen is making my brain hurt. I say we vote her because:

a) Reading that kind of text will be really annoying later in the game for everyone.

b) Nerwen knows this and if she really is a wolf and she survives, she will go under the radar later in the game. (I personally am NOT going to read that in a longer post than three lines, it hurts my head)~The Sixth
Kitanna's reasoning makes her look innocent (to me), she brings up a valid reason for the suspicions against Nerwen. I disagree with what Nogrod thinks about it.
Kitanna feels like she tries and tries to find anything even remotely called a reason for her vote... just read her votepost and you may see what I mean. There is something forced in there to my eye.
I did read the votepost Nogrod, and there's nothing forced about it. It looks more like Kitanna found something she thought is suspicious and thus voted for Nerwen.

The Sixth's reasoning is forced, since Nerwen is annoying, let's lynch her before she slips under the radar. And oh plus there's no one else.

teh n00b eönwë casts random suspic10ns on ppl. probaly just his r0le. he mite be usng it as cover tho.~Nerwen
Don't assume Eonwe is a noob, or we could all be in trouble. In a past life Eonwe was my wolf partner and he survived longer than me. His cunning had the village in a circle until the seer spotted him.

Eonwe's approach so far reminds me of one that I have tried. Aggressive, in your face, asking questions, and sparking responses. I must say I am much better at it than he, but I think he's innocent.

More will come after dinner.

[Rikae]

Sorry I'm late, I didn't realize the day was starting (I was reading HoME for the 16th time).

The Elf-Warrior just seems evil to me, although I couldn't quite explain it - a sort of nervous, tense vibe, much like Maglor's wife observed in Legolas after he swallowed his own hand and turned into a werewolf.

–It's starting to look to me like there's a wolf somewhere in this Agan/Nilp/Form brawl that's just started up. Not sure who it is.
How do you figure? I didn't have that impression at all. Nilp and Form, in particular, have really given nothing to go on game-wise, so why latch on to them? (Not that giving nothing to go on will be perfectly fine as the game continues).

I'll second Nogrod on Kitanna's vote being eyebrow-raising. It is overly self-conscious, somehow.

Red

Kitanna
The Elf Warrior

Orange

Nerwen
Aganzir
Sally
Eönwë

Yellow

Shasta
Boro
Kath
Durelin
Eomer
Nogrod
Sixth
THE Ka
Form
Nilp
Mith
McCaber

Green

Rikae

EDIT: X'd with Boro, Nog, Ka

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I've been fishing, fishing for less than nonsense in this sea of Melkor's discord . . . and very few rise up to take the bait. How am I to fish for the truth now?

Aganzir doesn't feel like she's playing any chord of Melkor's dissonance yet.

Nerwen, as Mandos has told me earlier, looks innocent.

Kitanna and Eomer worries the mind of Manwë.

My mother Mithalwen is in Lórien's peace.

PS. Boromir o' the Numbers, this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.

[Mithalwen]

Why Sixth? I know he has only posted once but he wasn't entirely IC?

Formendacil's vote is still niggling me a bit ..... and he was very pompous and used eucatastrophe twice.... that word - I never really understand it .... but he was first up. Could be most annoying.... despite great competition.

My head hurts ... I have lists but the categories are "Trappists, Loons and Irritants" I think I had better keep that one to myself. :Merisu: However some of the Trappists have been amusing even when they have made their isolated posts. Kitanna has been very confident, perhaps the least in character though the last post could be taken either as IC or serious and therefore somewhat defensive.

[satansaloser2005]

Okay, sorry, change of plans. My mother invited me (okay, I begged....heh) over for dinner, which never happens, so I need to head out. I might be back before deadline, but I'll vote now just in case.

Sarcastically, I'm the only one allowed to be a grammar Nazi on here, but we all know that's not the case. In reality, Sixth's post seems just....wrong. It's the first day and, as much as I hate to say it, at the moment there's not much we can get from toDay. Sixth is trying too hard to reason. Does that make sense? Blah. Anyway....

++Sixth



By the way, where are Rikae and McCobbler, erm, Cabbie?


Anyway, I need to head out. I'm bloody starving. Hopefully I'll see you all either before the end of the Day or toMorrow. Til then, Bye! Au revoir! Adios! Ciao! Ting tao tay! *waves dumbly*



EDIT: x'd with everything since Ka's 71....heh, including Rikae.

[satansaloser2005]

By the by, Nerwen, enjoy my avvie. I made it for the end of the Doctor Who season and decided you might enjoy it for the purposes of the game. ;)




Also, I'm helping at camp out west tomorrow and probably won't be back right at the beginning of the Day. Just so you all know. :)


*scurries in search of foodstuffs*

[Mithalwen]

I really don't see why Sixth is that suspicious and it slightly worries me that Sally has jumped into vote for him after Agan and Boro have voiced suspicion - it looks a bit opportunistic and safe.

[Aganzir]

*looks at watch* - One... two, and three. Right on schedule.

I was wondering when you'd immediately add me to the evil list. Tisk, tisk, Aganzir you're growing a bit forgetful. Or is it just because you remembered you'll never let poor Radagast rest?
I know I have serious traumas and I'm working on them, I really am! But this time only your role tempted me to do that. ;)

I did read the votepost Nogrod, and there's nothing forced about it. It looks more like Kitanna found something she thought is suspicious and thus voted for Nerwen.
I think the tone is somehow apologetic or over-explanatory. But I'm not too concerned about her because her posting looks more innocentish otherwise.

much like Maglor's wife observed in Legolas after he swallowed his own hand and turned into a werewolf.
Have you been reading some fanfic of your own writing? :p

There's something that is bugging me about Rikae right now. Today seems to be one of those days I can't find proper reasons for my thoughts, but something makes me uneasy. I don't know... She looks like she was weaving a complicated web with truth and lies shattered all around. That's the best I can explain the feeling.
Or making shoes. :p

Why Sixth? I know he has only posted once but he wasn't entirely IC?
I assume you were asking this from me, but I'll answer even if you weren't.
He had one IC joke in his first (and only) post, and then he accused Nerwen, half-jokingly and also with IC reasons. Wolves often throw random suspicion around and wait for someone to carry it on. That's why I'm also suspicious of Nerwen.
Out of those who have posted little and mostly in character, he's the most suspicious.

edit: xed with sally and Mith

[Eönwë]

Yet it was Nerwen who first brought up the A/N/F thing you just agreed on. ;)

And anyway, it was a Nilp-Form thing and then you, Aganzir just joined in actually.

[Mithalwen]

Really nearly asleep now - early morning in the pool and late nights in a cyber cafe are not a good combo! Anyway can't decide about Kitanna & Nerwen and Form .. but Sally's vote just seems a bit too parasitic... at least Kitanna and Form stuck their heads above the parapet.

++Satansaloser2005

[Eönwë]

this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.
Yes 'tis true. But hopefully I will share the skill that comes with the name (after all, in the book he is the greatest warrior for good- I'm sure Nilp knows the quote by heart- ever).

edit: x-ed with Mith. But then this is WW.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

True, true.

edit: WAIT A SECOND! I said she wasn't doing anything useful, not that she wasn't doing anything. You're twisting my words Aganzir. Sounds like wolfish behaviour to me.

Dodgy post, y'know? Complete over-reaction.

Also, Mithalwen, you may think Sally is being opportunistic, with her vote for 6th, but I could equally well say it about you. Whatever Sally had it was gonna be weak, and this is another chance for you to step in with a righteous comment. She's taken the position of early-voter-with-bad-reason and you've matched her in becoming critic-of-early-voter.

Two sides, same coin.

[Aganzir]

And anyway, it was a Nilp-Form thing and then you, Aganzir just joined in actually.
What was?
If we're talking to one another, does it make it a thing?

I could say I'm very suspicious of that Agan/Mith/Eönwë thing, they spoke about everything unnecessary for a while during the later part of day 1. And both Agan and Mith explained how to check Who's posted to Eönwë! At least one of them must be a wolf, but I don't know yet who.

edit: xed with Mith, Eönwë and Eomer

[Aganzir]

edit: WAIT A SECOND! I said she wasn't doing anything useful, not that she wasn't doing anything. You're twisting my words Aganzir. Sounds like wolfish behaviour to me.
Haa I didn't even notice this before Eomer posted the quote.
To me "do something" and "do something useful" are practically the same thing so I wasn't even trying to twist your words. Maybe I just don't think idiomatically enough. :p

[Eönwë]

What was?
Large argument. -Ish.

If we're talking to one another, does it make it a thing?

I could say I'm very suspicious of that Agan/Mith/Eönwë thing, they spoke about everything unnecessary for a while during the later part of day 1. And both Agan and Mith explained how to check Who's posted to Eönwë! At least one of them must be a wolf, but I don't know yet who.

I could tell that that was going to come. But you do make a point.:rolleyes:

[Nogrod]

Wolves often throw random suspicion around and wait for someone to carry it on.That's one thing they do. But the thing I've found them doing more often is waiting for any decent or half-decent suspicions to raise up and then go for it - stronger or milder eg. trying to turn it into a major suspicion or just going with the flow and getting an excuse for their vote.

Looking things from this anlgle would point at least to Eönwë and Kitanna and little less on The Sixth. Both Eönwë and Kitanna had only picked up the talk of the town and managed to include all three in their suspicions (Nilp / Form / Nerwen). I do understand what you people (Boro and Agan) see as innocentish in Kit - I see it as well and am thence a bit worried about voting for her. But I do also see her over-consciousness or carefulness or whatever you'd call it. Also her answer to my quite slight note on that caused a kind of stiff reaction I didn't like.

[Kath]

Hello! I'm here for a little bit! Maybe even til the deadline, it depends. Would someone mind posting a voting tally if there have been any votes so I can see what's going on while I start to read through?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

09:49pm Form - Nog
12:50am Kit - N3rw3n
05:29am sally - VI
05:51am Mith - sally

Times are +8GMT

[Boromir88]

PS. Boromir o' the Numbers, this is a different Eönwë, one with diacritical marks. The other Eonwe, alas, has not been seen in the circles of the World for a long time.~Nilp
I mistook an identity? You know I've not only had my identity mistaken, but have had it stolen. I bet I'm the only person here who has experienced that.

I really don't see why Sixth is that suspicious and it slightly worries me that Sally has jumped into vote for him after Agan and Boro have voiced suspicion - it looks a bit opportunistic and safe.~Mith
I'm curious to hear why you don't think Sixth looks suspicious. Also, jumping on sally's vote for Sixth looks far too easy, I don't buy it. Maybe sally thought the same thing as I did, I just managed to get my post in first.

One thing I want to ask sally is, was your early accusations against Nerwen in jest? What other reason is there for you backing off and voting for Sixth?

[Eönwë]

Dodgy post, y'know? Complete over-reaction.Maybe I did slightly over-react. But after sorta-agreeing with Agan, I realised that that was not exactly what I said. To me the meanings do make a difference... I'm sure Sixth will explain (if he survives).

x-ed with everyone since... aah! Noggie.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The second theme has been played, it seems.

Should we not wait for the heretical Sixth Wizard to defend his only post before we jump at his throat?

[Nogrod]

One thing I want to ask sally is, was your early accusations against Nerwen in jest? What other reason is there for you backing off and voting for Sixth?I think she will not be back to answer your question but it kind of raised my eyebrows how many people actually backed off from suspecting Nerwen (Nilp, Eomer...). Does that say anything is another matter. It may be they just joked first and then got into a bussiness-mode or then their first suspicions were hairy in their origin and they backtracked in time hoping to avoid joining the lynchmob of an innocent (whether Nerwen is innocent that is).

[Eönwë]

hmmmm.... Only 50 minutes to decide who gets lynched.

[Nogrod]

hmmmm.... Only 50 minutes to decide who gets lynched.You're my saviour! So there is time! I had totally forgotten we go by the 'Downs time!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I didn't exactly ''back off'' accusing Nerwen, Nogrod, unless you mean I stopped going on about HOW OFFENSIVE & STOOPID she was being, in a ridiculous IC way. ;)

Nevertheless, I shall not disappoint you in backing right onto her again (oo er! not sure what that sounds like). Aganzir has utterly sworded the idea since so there's no need to repeat that, but Nerwen's willingness to see patterns in interactions, and ''throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks'' is dodgy. Eonwe, of course, agreed with her, and add that to his jumping on Aganzir.

Aganzir, I like. She's speaking sense so I'm definitely wanting to keep her around. Boromir too.

Others I haven't got quite a grip on yet, but Nerwen, Eonwe and Mithalwen are my three wolves at the moment. I'd bet my $8 frappuccino on Mith anyway.

++MITHALWEN

Goodnight

[Eönwë]

I might not be able to be here for the last 30 mins, so I will vote:

++Mithalwen

Because of the way she posts, as if she's hiding behind hersef being IC but not at the same time. Hard to explain what I mean. Also, her attitude seems slightrly suspicious

"You should always sort out the problems nearby before you sort outt problems in the world", says me. And since we both live in "Beleriand" (accordinng to Nilp), she is definitely nearby.


edit: x-ed with Eomer- What??!!! Are you telepathic?

[Nerwen]

HALO EVERY1!!!1111!!! IM BACK!!!!111!!! DID U MISS ME???

–okay, I'll just go back and read everything.

[Kath]

Alright, I'm giving up because I need to go to bed and I've people wanting to use the computer. Random vote because hey, it's Day 1. So truly random, I'm voting for the last person to post.

++EONWE

[Eönwë]

HALO EVERY1!!!1111!!! IM BACK!!!!111!!! DID U MISS ME???


Aaaargh! My eyes!

[Nogrod]

Is McCaber the only one who has not posted? I'd say it's nothing new. And it will no surprise to ayone what I think of that kind of play. But as there is a modfire I'd let it rest at least toDay... and maybe he comes around.

Nerwen, Eonwe and Mithalwen are my three wolves at the moment.Mith hasn't said so far she's not a wolf so it might be she is... :D

More thoughts thrown in the air at this point.

Somehow Form's vote just feels wrong. I think I'm too politically correct to explain it further.

I saw Eönwë's vote just now... Well he did exactly what I had said he has been doing and which I think is suspicious (jumping on other's ideas) and voted for Mith. I'm not sure if he just lacks ideas or whether he might act that way as a wolf. I mean it looks just too bold to do that for a wolf. :confused:

EDIT: Eönwë's vote was edited to be a crosspost. So I'm taking my words back. But will not drop him from my list of suspects either.

[Nogrod]

Random vote because hey, it's Day 1. So truly random, I'm voting for the last person to post.Et tu mi Brute! Kath? Now where is this all going...

Let's all say we voted random toDay and no one will ever learn anything about this Day and we face a new Day1 toMorrow (those of us who do).

Jesus!

[Aganzir]

That's one thing they do. But the thing I've found them doing more often is waiting for any decent or half-decent suspicions to raise up and then go for it - stronger or milder eg. trying to turn it into a major suspicion or just going with the flow and getting an excuse for their vote.
Or then they just bluntly jump on the bandwagon. Or then they defend people who are suspected in order to look better, for "a wolf would surely have just contributed to the lynching of an innocent." Or whatever. Depends on the wolf.
If people you are suspecting also feel evil or whatever in addition to that, I'm fine, but how-would-a-wolf-suspect-someone things are dangerous reasons to solely base suspicion on. A wolf can just choose the explanation that suits her current case best. Though that's the case with everything in WW... I think every word someone says can be used as an argument either for or against them.

I think Nogrod has a good point about people backing off from suspecting Nerwen.

Eönwë's vote came kind of out of the blue. I think he had never even mentioned Mith before that.

xed with two Nogrods, Eönwë, Kath & Nerwen. So much for going to bed early today.

[THE Ka]

I can see the suspicion around Kit, but I guess I will have to take pity on her courage to act in her own reason on Day 1, than bandwagoning or randomly voting. Her actions seem sensible to me, and at least constructive to her own purposes. Better to follow the beat of your own drum than gaggle around someone else’s.
With that, I don’t see much solid reasoning around Kit being overtly suspicious. She’s just doing what she wants to do. Plus, I don’t have any good reason to vote for her either.

Durelin I guess can appear suspicious to someone who hates a long IC post, but I’ve been guilty of that before so not much of a point. Her second post is full of simple reasoning, but there isn’t an overt reason to go after that since its far more constructive than five pages of dueling (*remembers last game*), or dribble. I can assume by toMorrow that she like a few of us will have more time to post and think.

I don’t understand Sally’s vote other than it was a bit anticipated, as if it would be a safeguard in case others decide to randomly vote for Sixth later on. A good first Day tactic, but unfortunately people remember this on the second Day when they really need someone to vote for, or have a hunch on. I’m not exactly certain a wolf would feel so confident voting this way, but werewolf or not if someone was rushed I can see such a vote for the sake of surviving.
I’d prefer a bit of explanation more on how she’s been writing today than the apparent vote, but that will have wait for later.
The vote is obvious and nothing new, I’m curious as to her earlier thoughts.

Rikae’s list is to me, just her list. An insurance that she has some points on the positions of other players. Rather wish she could give more though.

As for Boro88, Kath, and Nogrod, I have nothing on them. Maybe later, I don’t know.

Form, Nilp and Agan bandwagon I really don’t care for in the least. I’m tired of bandwagons. No matter how much fun they are to create or join. So, I am just going to step over it. Plus, already have gone over what will happen if yet again, Agan is a wolf. I don’t have enough experience playing with Form to say much of anything, and I’m going to vainly hope that he has a different role than wolf this time so I don’t loose interest altogether.


I know I have serious traumas and I'm working on them, I really am! But this time only your role tempted me to do that.

There, there. Remember, I can’t forgive you Agan, you have to forgive yourself. :p

Well, I'm running out of time and I have to leave in five minutes (yes, holiday and family), and I'm missing out on some coffee, so I might as well vote now.

If I was as knowledgable as other players about each other they suspect, I probably could have made a better reasoning and vote, but unfortunately I don't. So, I'm going to stick with what I have and avoid the bloody bandwagons.

++ Rikae

It seems like the post could be more, but the use of just a list with names appears like an insurance policy to protect oneself and act easily in aggreance. Like an effort to not ruffle too many feathers, but still contribute something.
Which, is suspicious and can fly under the radar during a first Day like this.

With that I bid you all either a goodnight/holiday/good day/ etc.

~ Ka

[Durelin]

I love how people always like to create little conspiracy theories on Day 1, through the banter. ToDay we have the "Agan/Nilp/Form / Agan-Nilp-Form brawl," which Nerwen seems to have first coined.

Nerwen seems the easy lynch target o' the day, largely perhaps because of her role. People have definitely been *testing the waters* on lynching her. Don't really think it's fair to go after her again on Day 1, myself. ;)

Don't have much time, so won't get much of anything interesting from me...anyway, Kitanna bothers me. She picked up Nerwen's lovely conspiracy theory to stir that up, and then voted for Nerwen. Hmm.

++Kitanna

Edit: Crossed with everyone from Eomer on.

[Nerwen]

This is not a rhetorical question, I want an answer. Why does it look like that? Is there some special way wolves can make people around them talk like they do? We three have just caught your attention, but is there something that should really suggest that at least one of us is a wolf?

I just meant they way you were suddenly jumping on each other. Only it hasn't developed since then.

Is McCaber the only one who has not posted? I'd say it's nothing new. And it will no surprise to ayone what I think of that kind of play. But as there is a modfire I'd let it rest at least toDay... and maybe he comes around.

Mith hasn't said so far she's not a wolf so it might be she is... :D

Let's ask her– MITH R U A WAREWOLF???

Seriously, I don't find her particularly suspicious. Eomer and Eönwë have jumped on her for jumping on Sally for jumping on Sixth... what a mess.

Really don't know who to vote. When is the DL?

EDIT: x'd with Nogrod, Aganzir, the Ka, Durelin.

[Boromir88]

I saw Eönwë's vote just now... Well he did exactly what I had said he has been doing and which I think is suspicious (jumping on other's ideas) and voted for Mith.~Nogrod
But that's dangerous because an ordinary innocent likes to latch onto ideas he/she agrees with. It's not the act of "following" alone that makes someone a bandwagoning wolf, it's more of what they say.

Do they say "Hey I agree with what Boro said about Eomer, oh look what else I see about Eomer that looks suspicious." Or do they say "Hey I agree with what Boro said about Eomer" and then go on to completely reiterate what I have already said. An innocent is more like to latch onto an idea and then dig a little deeper, where a wolf is more likely to bandwagon and repeat.

I don't know whether I want to vote for The Sixth, or The Elf-Warrior, those are the two who stick out the most. I have some feelings about sally and Mith, but they won't get answered today.

Hmm...

++The Sixth

Edit: bunches of cross-posting since Nogrod's post that I responded to.

[Nogrod]

Eighteen minutes to go.

Mith, The Sixth have 2 votes.

Nogrod, Nerwen, Sally, Eönwë and Rikae have one each.

EDIT: corrected the tally.

[Aganzir]

I just meant they way you were suddenly jumping on each other. Only it hasn't developed since then.
And what makes you think there's at least one wolf involved when people are jumping on one another? :p

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Nerwen was, I believe, an excellent target of opportunity.

I know how it feels--in past lives, when I had gained renown as 't3h suiicdal 1', I was easy prey to any Werewolf/wolves with intentions of getting an innocent killed on DAY 1.

I'm glad her head is sacred now, somewhat. Although I fear the so-called Sixth Wizard has replaced her as nearest target of opportunity.

As for my accusation of her, and then the backing off, I was merely, as I have said, testing the waters. We cannot all draw solid suspicions out of thin air, or IC posts.

She makes sense, and is geniune in her eagerness to help this fair village, which is why I agree with Mandos in thinking her innocent.

The voting so far: (Times are +8GMT.)

09:49pm Form - Nog (Nog - 1)
12:50am Kit - N3rw3n (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1)
05:29am sally - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1)
05:51am Mith - sally (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1)
06:18am Eomer - Mith (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 1)
06:25am Eönwë - Mith (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2)
06:28am Kath - Eönwë (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1)
06:35am THE Ka - Rikae (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1, Rikae - 1)
06:37am Durelin - Kit (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)
06:42am Boro - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 2, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

DAY is nearly over. Let's make a tie, and see what happens:

++Eönwë

He was the first to start a bandwaggon, anyhow, and he votes out of thin air.

[satansaloser2005]

Okay my lovelies, I'm back. Quick responses, then I'll read through a bit more.

To Mith: Aw, shucks, thanks. I feel loved. :)
To Agan: Notice that I x'd with you, so it's not that I saw your post (although I did look right before submission just to see who I had x'd with) and jumped on board. Just to clear that up. :)
To Boro: Yes, my picking on Nerwen was kidding around. I might find her a bit suspicious, but that post was just for kicks and giggles, in a manner of speaking.
To Nerwen: No, we didn't miss you. (Kidding, KIDDING....)
To Noggie: Yeah, only Cabbie hasn't talked. I was wondering where he was too. Hmmmm....



EDIT: x'd with....erm, everyone since Durie's vote

[Nerwen]

I didn't say "at least one wolf," I said it looked like there might be a wolf. Don't twist my words, please.

EDIT: X'd with Nilp and Sally.

[Durelin]

The conspiracy level has just been raised to "4". We have a Agan/Nilp/Form/Nerwen brawl on our hands.

[Rikae]

++Nerwen

for not answering my question, and for hyphenating names excessively.

(Really, I'm serious about that - placing the focus on a duo or trio is a time-honored wolf strategy, and here it really seems premature.)

EDIT: X'd with all since Dury.

[The Elf-warrior]

Nerwen, I'd like to point out that you mislabeled Formy's words with mine back in post #12. The following is a random vote.

++The Sixth Wizard

If this is suspicious so be it.

[Aganzir]

Nerwen was, I believe, an excellent target of opportunity.

I know how it feels--in past lives, when I had gained renown as 't3h suiicdal 1', I was easy prey to any Werewolf/wolves with intentions of getting an innocent killed on DAY 1.

I'm glad her head is sacred now, somewhat. Although I fear the so-called Sixth Wizard has replaced her as nearest target of opportunity.
I feel uncomfortable with the way Nilp is now turning accusations from Nerwen and Sixth to people who suspect(ed) them.

To Agan: Notice that I x'd with you, so it's not that I saw your post (although I did look right before submission just to see who I had x'd with) and jumped on board. Just to clear that up.
I think only Mith suspected you because of it, not me.

I didn't say "at least one wolf," I said it looked like there might be a wolf. Don't twist my words, please.
Someone else said there was at least one wolf, then, I think. Sorry for twisting, let's phrase the question in another way: Why does it look like there might be a wolf involved when people are jumping on one another?

edit: xed with Rikae and EW

[Nerwen]

Then it's

++ Eönwë

Self preservation, plus I think he's the most suspicious of the people who have two votes.

EDIT: X'd with Elf-warrior and Aganzir.

[satansaloser2005]

Come on people, let's not leave this to Brinn to (kind of) decide. Ties suck.



EDIT: Oh G'lord. x'd since Rikae.

[Nogrod]

I'm afraid that with The Sixth we get an easy wolf-victory - as well as with Nerwen. Mith we can ask toMorrow, whether she is a wolf. :)

So it leaves me yet again with Eönwë and Kitanna.

But how many of you are still around and have not voted?

With 4-persons at the same vote it will be random!

Let's pick one, please.

EDIT: X'd with a host Isee...

[Aganzir]

++ Sixth

edit: xed with Nog

[Nogrod]

Sixth and Eönwë 3
Nerwen & Mith 2

Anyone?

Let's not let the wolves make ties...

[Aganzir]

Nog - 1, N3rwen - 2, VI - 4, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 3, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1

xed with Nog again

[Aganzir]

One minute left so if you're about to vote, do it soon.

[Nogrod]

Okay then.

++ The Sixth Wizard

And Eönwë talks...

[satansaloser2005]

Still four votes left to come in then, I believe.

EDIT: x'd with our Nog-Not-Mod. Make that three votes still coming in.

[Brinniel]

Deadline!

The Sixth Wizard has been lynched. Narration will come...be patient (I know it's tough ;) ).

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I am part of no brawl. I certainly am no part of a brawl of four.

My exchange with Master Formendacil was made in pure jest. I fail to see why anyone continues to bring this up.

I feel uncomfortable with the way Nilp is now turning accusations from Nerwen and Sixth to people who suspect(ed) them. (Aganzir)Not merely those suspicious of them, but those eager for their blood, as you are, Aganzir.

[Nerwen]

r we stil alowed 2 talk?

[satansaloser2005]

r we stil alowed 2 talk?

No, dear. Deadline's at six. Well, eleven, but six for me. Now hushabye. :Merisu:

EDIT: typo. And double points if you get the hushabye reference by the way. ;)

[Brinniel]

The day started out as a chaotic one. Nogrod attempted to bring order, but without the B-W and no real moderators out in the open, it was little use.

Nerwen continuously confused the poor others with her chatspeak and random “LEGGY IS HAWT” comments. And with Shasta hardly around, even the therapist Mithalwen couldn’t understand what she was saying. At one point, frustrated Eomer accused Nerwen of being stupid. Nerwen retorted, “No, u r STOOPID!!!11” But finally Nerwen chose to revert back to English much to the relief of everyone.

Meanwhile between Formendacil and Nilpaurion, it was battle of the intellectuals. They butted heads, yet it seemed only they knew what they were talking about. Except for perhaps Boromir, who claimed he knew everything. After all, he wrote the dictionary for it.

Aganzir spoke up complaining, “Why can’t everyone here just act normal? All this distraction is gonna keep us from original purpose…find the hackers.”
“Just because people may be acting odd doesn’t mean there isn’t some sort of clue to finding the hackers,” Kitanna commented. “The key is reading between the lines.”

Finally it was time to get down to business. Formendacil was the first to place his vote, pointing a finger towards Nogrod. Kitanna decided Nerwen was most suspicious.
“I think we should lynch Sixth,” said Sally.
“But what about Mith?” spoke up Eomer. “I’ll bet my $8 frappucino she’s a hacker.”
Kath didn’t know who to choose…so she closed her eyes and pointed at the crowd. And that is how Eönwë became her choice.
Ka decided she didn’t want to be the echo of someone else’s vote, so her vote went to Rikae. And Durelin voiced her thoughts against Kitanna.

“Wait,” cried out Boromir. “If we all vote for someone different, how will ever choose someone to get lynched?”
So it was decided. The remaining BDers would choose someone who had already been voted for. The tallies were made and in the end, Eönwë and Sixth were tied.

“Well this won’t work,” sighed Sally. “Ties are simply no fun. Who hasn’t voted yet?”
“Well Shasta hasn’t. He went to his tent this morning and no one’s seen him since,” said Nilpaurion. “And where is McCaber?”
“Okay, okay, I haven’t voted,” spoke up Aganzir. “But I do think we should get it over with and kill Sixth.”
Nogrod agreed. “What do you say, Sixth? Any last words?”
But the Sixth Wizard was silent.

So the BDers picked up their pitchforks and torches and carried Sixth to the nearest tree. Aganzir placed the noose around Sixth’s neck and Boromir and Elf-Warrior strung him up in the tree in a good old fashioned lynching.

When it was done, nothing happened.
“So, how do we know whether he was guilty or not?” asked Rikae.
Nogrod searched the corpse of Sixth, but all he found was a very large book titled How to be a Grammar Nazi.

The Sixth Wizard was just an ordinary BDer.

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The Living:

Nilpaurion Felagund~Ainulindalë Addict
Kitanna~the self-righteous know-it-all
Aganzir~non-anonymous neg-repper
Shastanis Althreduin~chatspeak translator
Nerwen~rabid fangirl
Boromir88~the one upper
Kath~artiste
Rikae~the person who tries to fake knowledge of the books and fails miserably
Durelin~Unreliable RPG Addict
Eomer of the Rohirrim~easily-offended trendy
Nogrod~the wanna-be moderator
The Elf-Warrior~nitpicker
satansaloser2005~a fan of everything but Tolkien
THE Ka~Artful Dodger
Eönwë~conspiracy theorist
Formendacil~Tolkien Canonist
Mithalwen~therapist
McCaber~does it 4 teh lulz

The Dead:

The Barrow-Wight~took up permanent residence in a barrow (mod)
The Sixth Wizard~ grammar Nazi~strung up in a tree (ordo)

-------------------------------

Night 2 has begun.

Hackers/Wolves may PM and choose a kill. Gifteds may do their thing. Everyone else silence.

[Brinniel]

The next night the moon was full and the hackers were thirsting for another kill. They had successfully avoided the angry mob the previous day, and in their place an innocent BDer was lynched. They huddled together in the woods for several hours as they made their evil plans.

“So, we’ve made our decision?” said one.
“Yep, it’ll be a nice juicy kill, I’m sure of it,” said another.
“Okay, let’s go,” said the third.

The three hackers prowled through the camp, unseen by the sleeping BDers. Their target was at the very end of the row of tents. But as they approached the tent, they saw the figure of someone standing in front of it. And it was not their prey.

“You think you can get away with another kill tonight?” said the figure. “Well, not if I can stop you!” The shape held up a crossbow, and an arrow came flying at one of the hackers, grazing its shoulder.
“Ow!” cried out the hacker.
A second arrow came flying, whizzing past the ear of another hacker.
“Abort the plan! Abort the plan!” shouted the hackers, and they ran away scattering.

The hackers had narrowly missed the ranger’s arrows and they returned to their tents, their stomachs still growling.

-----------------------------------------

The BDers emerged from their tents early the next morning wondering who the hackers’ next victim was. But after Nogrod did a quick headcount, they realised everyone was still alive.

“So what happened,” wondered Kath. “Did the hackers just not feel like killing someone last night?”
“Wait a minute,” said Kitanna as she pulled an arrow from a tree and showed it to the rest.
“Well, it looks like our moderators have been doing their jobs,” observed Boromir.
“Thank Eru for that,” praised Nilpaurion.
The BDers all agreed as the settled themselves in a circle around the campfire.

“Well this has certainly been a boring narration,” sighed Aganzir. “I mean, while it’s nice and all that the hackers didn’t manage to kill anyone, a death here and there does at least add a bit of spice.”
“Yeah,” agreed Eomer. “And this narration isn’t even funny. If no one’s gonna killed at night, then something funny should happen in its place.”
The other BDers nodded in agreement.

Then McCaber spoke up. “Well don’t you guys know? That’s why I’m here! After all, I’m the comedian of the group.”
“Okay, what kind of jokes do you do?” asked Nerwen.
“LotR ones, of course,” McCaber replied. “Wanna see my Denethor impression?”

Before anyone could respond, McCaber picked up a bottle of propane and poured it all over himself. He then jumped into the campfire and proceeded that with running around the camp in a flaming blob screaming, “Wheeeeee!!!!!!!”
Finally McCaber collapsed and the BDers came running over to him with buckets of water. They put out the fire, but it was already too late for McCaber who had been burnt to a crisp.

“Now that was funny,” said Sally, and the others couldn’t help but agree.

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The Living:

Nilpaurion Felagund~Ainulindalë Addict
Kitanna~the self-righteous know-it-all
Aganzir~non-anonymous neg-repper
Shastanis Althreduin~chatspeak translator
Nerwen~rabid fangirl
Boromir88~the one upper
Kath~artiste
Rikae~the person who tries to fake knowledge of the books and fails miserably
Durelin~Unreliable RPG Addict
Eomer of the Rohirrim~easily-offended trendy
Nogrod~the wanna-be moderator
The Elf-Warrior~nitpicker
satansaloser2005~a fan of everything but Tolkien
THE Ka~Artful Dodger
Eönwë~conspiracy theorist
Formendacil~Tolkien Canonist
Mithalwen~therapist

The Dead:

The Barrow-Wight~took up permanent residence in a barrow (mod)
The Sixth Wizard~ grammar Nazi~strung up in a tree (ordo)
McCaber~ does it 4 teh lulz~made the narration much more amusing than it originally was (ordo)

Day 2 has begun.

Hackers stop PMing. Everyone now may talk.

[satansaloser2005]

Form-->Noggie at 8:49am
Kit-->Nerwen at 11:50am
Sally-->Sixth at 4:29pm
Mith-->Sally at 4:51pm
Eomer-->Mith at 5:18pm
Eon-->Mith at 5:25pm
Kath-->Eon at 5:28pm
Ka-->Rikae at 5:35pm
Durelin-->Kit at 5:37pm
Boro-->Sixth at 5:42pm
Nilp-->Eon at 5:48pm
Rikae-->Nerwen at 5:50pm
Elf-->Sixth at 5:54pm
Nerwen-->Eon at 5:55pm
Agan-->Sixth at 5:56pm
Noggie-->Sixth at 5:59pm

All votes are GMT-5. For those who aren't familiar with how I do it, known innocents are in italics and known wolves are underlined. Enjoy! :)

*awaits some posts, as she is a lonely but brave little toaster* (and yes, I know that was random)

By the way, nice move Mister/Miss Ranger. You're fantastic. As in, more than fantastic. As in more fantastic than Nine himself. :)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

As I said yesterday, target of opportunity.

Well, let's see the train wreck yesterday.

09:49pm Form (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561517&postcount=44) - Nog (Nog - 1)

Because what would make a better cover for a hacker looking to overthrow the existing Mods than a pathetic wannabe-Mod? No one would suspect it.

Except I just did.
As close to calculated randomness as one can get that early.

12:50am Kit (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561531&postcount=54) - N3rw3n (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1)

Nerwen jumps out because she posts often and says little. Granted most of her posts were in character jargon and her most recent ones are serious and moving away from IC, but she makes a note to say those who make long lists, but say nothing are suspicious. I find people who make frequent short posts that say nothing equally suspicious. Which is why I now vote for Nerwen. Though she is only moderately suspicious in my eyes she stands out from the others on my list.
Previously she said of Nerwen:
Her short, IC posts obviously say little, but her more serious posts give little to go on as well.Rather well-reasoned . . .

05:29am sally (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561560&postcount=77) - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1)

Sarcastically, I'm the only one allowed to be a grammar Nazi on here, but we all know that's not the case. In reality, Sixth's post seems just....wrong. It's the first day and, as much as I hate to say it, at the moment there's not much we can get from toDay. Sixth is trying too hard to reason. Does that make sense? Blah.
Time to bring up this issue. This was from VI's only post:
Wow, Nerwen is making my brain hurt. I say we vote her because:

a) Reading that kind of text will be really annoying later in the game for everyone.

b) Nerwen knows this and if she really is a wolf and she survives, she will go under the radar later in the game. (I personally am NOT going to read that in a longer post than three lines, it hurts my head)

and

c) I've got nothing on anyone else.Okay, reason b) is somewhat suspicious, but!
it's his first post; and
it's still page 1
so IC-based accusation is rather to be expected. Which was why I said we wait for him to defend himself (but he didn't get here in time . . . )
Tell me you didn't anticipate him attacking Nerwen rather fiercely on DAY 1, and I'll show you a liar. I've read more suspicious 1st post/1st page posts than this (z.B. he'd be too dangerous if he lives past DAY 1; he won't be of much help to the village anyway, usw.) A little more slack should have been given him.

05:51am Erenor (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561565&postcount=82) - sally (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1)
Really nearly asleep now - early morning in the pool and late nights in a cyber cafe are not a good combo! Anyway can't decide about Kitanna & Nerwen and Form .. but Sally's vote just seems a bit too parasitic... at least Kitanna and Form stuck their heads above the parapet.
I agree, mother.

06:18am Eomer (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561581&postcount=97) - Mith (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 1)

[ . . . ]Nerwen, Eonwe and Mithalwen are my three wolves at the moment. I'd bet my $8 frappuccino on Mith anyway.
Earlier he said:
[ . . . ]Mithalwen, you may think Sally is being opportunistic, with her vote for 6th, but I could equally well say it about you. Whatever Sally had it was gonna be weak, and this is another chance for you to step in with a righteous comment. She's taken the position of early-voter-with-bad-reason and you've matched her in becoming critic-of-early-voter.

Two sides, same coin.Rather forced, it looks like . . .

06:25am Eönwë (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561582&postcount=98) - Mith (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2)

Because of the way she posts, as if she's hiding behind hersef being IC but not at the same time. Hard to explain what I mean. Also, her attitude seems slightrly suspicious

"You should always sort out the problems nearby before you sort outt problems in the world", says me. And since we both live in "Beleriand" (accordinng to Nilp), she is definitely nearby.
Now this is eyebrow-raising.

06:28am Kath (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561584&postcount=100) - Eönwë (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1)
Alright, I'm giving up because I need to go to bed and I've people wanting to use the computer. Random vote because hey, it's Day 1. So truly random, I'm voting for the last person to post.
Random, but if she had evil intent I think she would have chosen someone with a vote already, perhaps even VI or Nerwen.

06:35am THE Ka (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561589&postcount=105) - Rikae (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1, Rikae - 1)

It seems like the post could be more, but the use of just a list with names appears like an insurance policy to protect oneself and act easily in aggreance. Like an effort to not ruffle too many feathers, but still contribute something.
Which, is suspicious and can fly under the radar during a first Day like this.
Makes sense . . .

06:37am Durelin (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561590&postcount=106) - Kit (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 1, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

Kitanna bothers me. She picked up Nerwen's lovely conspiracy theory to stir that up, and then voted for Nerwen. Hmm.

06:42am Boro (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561592&postcount=108) - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 2, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 1, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

I don't know whether I want to vote for The Sixth, or The Elf-Warrior, those are the two who stick out the most. I have some feelings about sally and Mith, but they won't get answered today.
Previously, in another post:The Sixth's reasoning is forced, since Nerwen is annoying, let's lynch her before she slips under the radar. And oh plus there's no one else.

06:48am Nilp (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561595&postcount=111) - Eönwë (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 1, VI - 2, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 2, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

He was the first to start a bandwaggon, anyhow, and he votes out of thin air.

06:50am Rikae (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561599&postcount=115) - Nerwen (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 2, VI - 2, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 2, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

for not answering my question, and for hyphenating names excessively.

(Really, I'm serious about that - placing the focus on a duo or trio is a time-honored wolf strategy, and here it really seems premature.)
Second eyebrow-raiser

06:54am EW (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561600&postcount=116) - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 2, VI - 3, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 2, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

If this is suspicious so be it.
Yes, it is, now that you mention it. No mention of suspecting VI before this, and not even bothering to explain your vote.

06:55am Nerwen (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561602&postcount=118) - Eönwë (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 2, VI - 3, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 3, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

Self preservation, plus I think he's the most suspicious of the people who have two votes.
Somewhat understandable . . . She cross-posted with EW so she didn't see that she's already been saved.

06:56am Agan (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561605&postcount=121) - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 2, VI - 4, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 3, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

(in another post:)One post and speaks only of Nerwen, telling why we should vote for her.

06:59am Nogrod (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561609&postcount=125) - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 2, VI - 5, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 3, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)

And Eönwë talks...
(Would you explain this?)
He said in another post:
I'm afraid that with The Sixth we get an easy wolf-victory - as well as with Nerwen.
Huh?
[T]he thing I've found them doing more often is waiting for any decent or half-decent suspicions to raise up and then go for it - stronger or milder eg. trying to turn it into a major suspicion or just going with the flow and getting an excuse for their vote.

Looking things from this anlgle would point at least to Eönwë and Kitanna and little less on The Sixth.
Double huh?

Have to prepare to move back into the aforementioned academic abomination, so more later . . .

[Formendacil]

Okay... what a weekend this is turning out to be. Now that we're through Day 1, I'll spare you the Tolkien canonicity--as much fun as I have it with notwithstanding--and focus on the task at hand; namely the hunting of our hackers.

First of all, however, I feel a need to clarify my precise feeling regarding Day 1s, since there seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding about this. It seems that my position is being interpreted along the lines of "Day 1s are absolutely useless and therefore I refuse to see any good in them and will insult them utterly."

Now, while this is not an entirely inaccurate reading... it IS rather lacking in nuance, and a correction here is in order. My opinion regarding Day 1s is not that they are utterly useless, but rather that it is impossible to use them, during Day 1 itself, as a source of any sort of a reasonable analysis.

The thing is, the only "hard facts" in Werewolf are kills or attempted kills. Attempts to figure out who wolves and gifted are has to be reasoned from the basis of who gets killed, what the role of the people killed were, and who attempts to kill whom, and, indeed, when people join in the killing.

None of this is of any assistance of Day 1, because there is no pattern at all to analyse. In a numerical sequence, such as 1,2,4,8,16... or 1,2,3,4,5,6.... or 2,2,4,6,10,16... if one only has the first figure, it is virtually impossible to guess what pattern will emerge. With two or three numbers, this is narrowed down immensely. So too in Werewolf: on Day 1, there is no pattern of killings or attempted killings to analyse. At best, towards the end of the day, one has a single vote from a portion of the community. Hence why I feel it is the height of folly to attempt to seriously and earnestly attempt to find a real wolf on Day 1. You might luck out... but that's really only lucking out.

You may agree or disagree with the above as regards how accurate an assessment it is of the chances of finding a wolf on Day 1, but please do not do me the disservice of saying that it utter foolishness. It is, at the least, a cogent argument.

Furthermore, now that we are in Day 2, we have a different situation. Normally, on Day 2, there should be two kills to analyse: the village lynch from Day 1, and the wolvish killing of Night 2. Handicapping the village efforts today, however, we are only able to analyse the village lynch, since the wolves were effectively neutralised. Unfortunately, this leaves us in a very sticky situation, since not only do we have a single kill to work off, but we have a classic bandwaggon situation. It is not, I think, without hope: I, at least, am inclined to think that at least one, if not two, of the wolves hid in the votes against Sixth, and this does narrow the field considerably. It would certainly have been a safe way to vote, since there was plenty of cover in a well joined bandwaggon, and Sixth spoke so little that it cannot easily be construed as a malicious, wolf-started bandwaggon. In particular, I think votes 2 and 3 for Sixth bear further attention, namely Boromir88 and Elfwarrior. In particular, I think Elfwarrior's timing, as third voter (usually the crucial vote to make something into a bandwaggon), together with her very nonchalant lack of reason for posting, and practically village-defying way of doing it, make her a prime candidate for investigation.

More thought on that, when I return.

[Nerwen]

Normally, on Day 2, there should be two kills to analyse: the village lynch from Day 1, and the wolvish killing of Night 2. Handicapping the village efforts today, however, we are only able to analyse the village lynch, since the wolves were effectively neutralised. Unfortunately, this leaves us in a very sticky situation, since not only do we have a single kill to work off, but we have a classic bandwaggon situation.

You know, if I were the Ranger I'd be feeling seriously unappreciated at this point...

[The Elf-warrior]

Excuse me, Formendacil, I am a he, not a she.

[satansaloser2005]

Excuse me, Formendacil, I am a he, not a she.

All right, good. I thought I'd gone crazy. *shifty eyes*



And ditto Nerwen. Someone on this thread is seriously not feeling the love. Kthnxbye. ;)



Finally. You guys have no idea how bored I've been with no posts. Now get to it! :D

[Formendacil]

Excuse me, Formendacil, I am a he, not a she.

My sincere apologies... I can only defend myself as having gotten my Elves mixed up. Elfchicks and GreatElvenWarriors seemed to have predisposed me to think of those with "elf" in their titles as feminine.

Orlangolas may also have contributed.:p

Finally. You guys have no idea how bored I've been with no posts. Now get to it!

There's plenty of material from yesterday to look over... it is hardly the task of the entire village to provide you with posts to entertain you.

Or, perhaps, you are a wolf? It would make sense, since then you would rather have new posts--with accusations on our parts--to tear apart as the basis of fresh accusations, rather than have to draw attention to the posts of yourself and your confrères which might well incriminate you. If so, most crafty indeed...

You know, if I were the Ranger I'd be feeling seriously unappreciated at this point...

That was certainly not my intent, but I see what you mean. As true as that may be, however, the stark fact of the matter is that while we are all certainly grateful to the Ranger for saving the life of one of our innocent number (assuming, of course, that the wolves did not go after the cobbler), it is not the job of the Ranger to be thanked, but to keep as low a profile as possible.

Nevertheless, you are correct that the Ranger's success, while it does cripple our efforts somewhat in that it cuts down on the data we have to analyse, does not eradicate it entirely. The fact of the matter is that four of the people in this game think that someone is innocent--or possibly gifted. It may be that we have no way or reason to figure out on our own who the wolves might have targeted last night, but perhaps if we keep in mind that one of us--who probably was noisy enough to be a target after yesterday--was targeted for elimination by the wolves and foreseen as the same by the ranger, we may well have grounds for informing our votes somewhat today.

Alas, though, no such candidates come to mind... though I would think that probably one of the people who voted for someone other than Sixth may have struck the Wolves as entirely too perceptive; that is, they may have voted for a real wolf.

Hmm... or they may have deliberately attacked someone who either didn't vote, or who voted for an ordo, in order to throw us off.

This is a quandary... must think on it more.

[Kitanna]

There is much to review from the end of Day 1. And like Day 1 I will be forced into voting early for work reasons, but it will be the last time. I will review what I've missed and I may or may not post before I go to bed.

[satansaloser2005]

There's plenty of material from yesterday to look over... it is hardly the task of the entire village to provide you with posts to entertain you.

Or, perhaps, you are a wolf? It would make sense, since then you would rather have new posts--with accusations on our parts--to tear apart as the basis of fresh accusations, rather than have to draw attention to the posts of yourself and your confrères which might well incriminate you. If so, most crafty indeed...


I thought you weren't going to entertain me. And then you come up with that load of nonsense. *chuckles* ;)



No, I was doing some things to my computer today that were making him....well, unstable to say the least, and I didn't want to start a big long post and then have it be eaten; I'm sure you understand. Then again, maybe not. But I'll be able to post more now that I've got everything working again.

In either case, my dears, I'm off for a tad then I'll be back, just to give you a heads up. I need to post a few (okay a lot of) things about Day one now that I've got all my technological problems sorted out. See you all in a bit.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'm here, I'm here...

but apparently my services are no longer required as Nerwen seems fully capable of making herself understood.

Woe.

Given that I'm not entirely here yet, would it be a bad idea to query as to why there was an attack by the hackers (prevented by the ranger - kudos to you!) and then McCaber... died? Surely there hasn't been enough time for someone to be modfired (the pun was inevitable...)?

Off to read the thread in one go-through now.

[THE Ka]

then McCaber... died? Surely there hasn't been enough time for someone to be modfired (the pun was inevitable...)?

It appears that poor McCabbie had to leave us (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561654&postcount=103)this game, but Brinn gave him a nice exit though. :)

Just wanted to say I'm here as well, but only for a few more minutes, then I'm going to finish up my reading and go to sleep. I will be back before the deadline.

~ Ka

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Okay, first decent post.

Things that caught my eye Day 1, from my reading:

Bit of an early-on banter-scuffle between Nerwen and Elf-Warrior, Formendacil and Boromir.

Formendacil's bit of a throwaway vote for Nogrod on the grounds, basically, that "it's Day 1, oh well". (Nogrod agrees with me, post #55... but then he would, wouldn't he? :p)

Nerwen seeing a wolf in "the Agan/Nilp/Form brawl". Personally I don't see one. (Kitanna does, though, post #52.) I see Agan replying to a couple of Form's statements, and Nilp with a bit of unfounded suspicion. To me, the odd one out here is Nilp.

Durelin is, as usual, more concerned with amusement than anything else. Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily, because I do have to join her in "guffawing" at Eonwe's first post, which smacks of trying too hard.

Ka seems to be metagaming a bit (#71) which I frown upon on principle, but not harshly (:p). Something about her "oh you may suspect me, but I don't suspect you, see how affable I am" attitude in this post strikes me as somehow off, though, even if Agan's suspicions were facetious.

I agree with Mith's #79 about Sally's bit of opportunism - er, her vote. I'm curious as to why Eomer then voiced suspicion of Mith (#84), calling her an early-vote critic, when both Form and Kitanna had people critique their early votes (Agan and Nogrod respectively). In fact, there was quite a lot of discussion about Kitanna's vote and the reasoning behind it. Why wait until Mith posted critiquing Sally's vote? Interestingly, Boromir does the same in #91.

In fact, Eomer's been suspicious of Mith since before her vote (#64). Hmm...

In #98, Eonwe votes for Mith without having previously had any suspicions against her (that I could see, anyway). Curiously, this post comes right after Eomer's post, coincidentally also voting for Mith. Eonwe X'ed with it, apparently... but...

Kath random-votes. At least she's honest. Of course, a random-vote during Day 1 is nearly guaranteed not to be followed up, making it quite safe (and possibly wolf-on-wolf).

Hmm. In #102, Nogrod expressly edits, mentioning Eonwe's edit to say he X'd with Eomer, but apparently did not X with anyone above him, leading me to an odd conclusion. To quote Alice; "Curiouser and curiouser!"

I like Nerwen in #107, where she mentions what I've garnered so far about Eomer and Eonwe.

"So be it", Elf-warrior, I think your vote in #116 is suspicious as it "just happens" to make Sixth the frontrunner in votes. :rolleyes:

So, my list (as it is) is as follows:

Suspicious: Eomer, Eonwe

Sort-Of Suspicious: Kath, Sally, Elf-warrior

Mediocre: Everyone not mentioned above or below this line -----------------------

Not-So Suspicious: Nogrod

Not Suspicious: Mith, Nerwen

Thanks, Ka, for clearing up the McCaber business.

I find it amusing that a crossbow is the weapon of choice for our dear Ranger - and why are we in tents anyway? I miss civilization.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Is there certainly a cobbler? I can't find it in the game thread intro.

Couple of quick things. First, I find it highly suspicious when players 'lament' the situation. Three people fit this category so far.

1. Mithalwen. The original reason I suspected her; I did not, as Nerwen claimed, simply jump on her for jumping on Sally.

2. Nilpaurion Felagund. Described the events as a ''train wreck''. Hardly. Just because we lynched an innocent? That usually happens in Werewolf. It gives us stuff to talk about the next day.

3. Nerwen. Called the voting ''a mess''.

It's this kind of negative lamentation that I find so suspicious. It appears as an appeal to the goodness of the poster -- ''Observe how concerned I am with the village! Let's be serious people, we have to get this right.'' Seems so artificial to me.

One more thing: Sally posts a whole lot of nothing, furnished with RL stories and cutesy chat. I'm wary of her intent. She's trying to hard to make friends in order to avoid being lynched.

[Eönwë]

Random, but if she had evil intent I think she would have chosen someone with a vote already, perhaps even VI or Nerwen

What? She started a bandwaggon against an innocent!

edit: but maybe not purposefully.

edit 2: x-èd with Shasta and Eomer

[Nerwen]

Nerwen seeing a wolf in "the Agan/Nilp/Form brawl". Personally I don't see one.

Well, I copped enough flack for that remark, didn't I?:rolleyes: It was after a Day of not much happening... then Form votes Nogrod, apparently for random/IC reasons, Aganzir accuses Form and Nilp accuses Aganzir. It occured to me that one of them might be an opportunistic wolf.

The reaction of Aganzir and later Rikae to this makes me wonder...

Is there certainly a cobbler? I can't find it in the game thread intro.

See the admin thread:

3 hackers/werewolves
3 moderators/gifteds (seer, ranger, and hunter)
1 spammer/cobbler
And of course the rest are ordos

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Eonwe, not that I agree with Nilp's reasoning, but I wouldn't say that voting for someone yet to receive a vote is starting a bandwagon.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Thanks Nerwen, I wondered whether the cobbler had been abandoned.

[Eönwë]

Eonwe X'ed with it, apparently... but...

Are you calling me a liar?


Hmm. In #102, Nogrod expressly edits, mentioning Eonwe's edit to say he X'd with Eomer, but apparently did not X with anyone above him, leading me to an odd conclusion. To quote Alice; "Curiouser and curiouser!"

Well, I'd just seen Noggie's reply, and then I realised that I didn't have much time left... so I voted. What's suspicious about that? I admit, it was a bit odd the way that happened, butt it happens.

Strange...

[Eönwë]

Eonwe, not that I agree with Nilp's reasoning, but I wouldn't say that voting for someone yet to receive a vote is starting a bandwagon.

You're right.In fact, it may have been Nilp that started that, then Nerwen joined in, making it the 3rd vote, which I think could (And maybe should) be classified as a bandwaggon.

[Nerwen]

hAy n00b!!11!

d0nt u no i woz ti3d with u & mith & sixth & n3ar DL???

r u b31ng IC & makeNg c0nsp1RacY th30r13z???

or r u st00pid or wot???11!!!

Edit: fixed bolding
Edit2: added name to list.

[Aganzir]

Not merely those suspicious of them, but those eager for their blood, as you are, Aganzir.
I will soon grow hungry for your blood, too, dear Nilp.

06:56am Agan (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=561605&postcount=121) - VI (Nog - 1, N3rwen - 2, VI - 4, sally - 1, Mith - 2, Eönwë - 3, Rikae - 1, Kit - 1)(in another post: )One post and speaks only of Nerwen, telling why we should vote for her.
I think it was rather the following that was my main reason to vote for him. ;) Though I agree the reason you posted looks more suspicious.
Out of those who have posted little and mostly in character, he's the most suspicious.

It is not, I think, without hope: I, at least, am inclined to think that at least one, if not two, of the wolves hid in the votes against Sixth, and this does narrow the field considerably.
Or then three. Or then none at all. I think it is impossible to predict how many of the votes for the lynchee were wolfish. It might have been easy to vote for Sixth, but it was easy to vote for many others, too. Maybe all hackers voted for Eönwë one after the other and are now smirking at these speculations.

Since EW was around to correct Form, I would have expected him also to participate in the discussion a bit more.

It occured to me that one of them might be an opportunistic wolf.

The reaction of Aganzir and later Rikae to this makes me wonder...
And it occurred to me that you were just trying to make us look suspicious by throwing a reason which was relatively easy to agree on; "yes, they certainly talked to one another, hmm there might be something to this."
You said you're automatically suspicious of people who make lists without explaining their thoughts - I could say I'm automatically suspicious of grouping people like that.

I don't like Nilp. I would like to see some reasoning behind this list:
Manwë has whispered to my ear that I should find the following to be suspicious of hearkening to Melko's overwhelming musics:
Durelin

Nerwen

Nogrod
Durelin and Nerwen had posted only IC, but Nog had some points also, sort of. And then suddenly Nerwen looks innocent after posting (mostly IC) twice, because she seems genuine in her endeavour to aid this community.
I should warn you though that the shape your thoughts take form on our screens makes you vulnerable to those confused by Melkor's discord, or perchance you know it already. Votes for you for 'IC reasons' may well disguise the perversion of their thoughts.
I don't like the sound of this. I don't know... If I had to say who I think might be wolves together, I'd say Nerwen and Nilp, and in that light that looks too much like a warning, "start behaving yourself or you'll get lynched!", and at the same time a threat to those who might suspect Nerwen otherwise, "if you suspect her, it will look like you're hackers after an easy lynch!"

Then Nerwen:
I'm automatically suspicious of people who make lists of names with no explanations. On the other hand, I don't think a hacker/wolf would have said this:
[the Nilp quote above this one]
"You're suspicious for a reason I automatically suspect people of, but then on the other hand you must be innocent because you said this."
She also finds Sixth's post forced and brings up the "A/N/F brawl", which other people kept mentioning ever since.

I just meant they way you were suddenly jumping on each other. Only it hasn't developed since then.
Wolves do tend to try to reply to accusations with as little effort as possible so as not to look jumpy (and then their replies don't make sense or are inadequate, so they must be asked again). Nerwen has been keen on avoiding or downplaying questions. When I asked her why it looked like there was at least one wolf involved, she corrected me, telling she had said there might be a wolf involved, instead of answering my question.

I said already yesterday that I don't really like how Nilp is turning accusations from Sixth and Nerwen to those who suspected them, but let me repeat it.
He says they both look like they were excellent targets for opportunity. That will both make those who suspected them look bad and discourage people to suspect Nerwen.

This post wasn't intended to be a case against Nerwen and Nilp but seemingly it ended up being one.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Kath random-votes. At least she's honest. Of course, a random-vote during Day 1 is nearly guaranteed not to be followed up, making it quite safe (and possibly wolf-on-wolf). (Shasta)With 12 votes still remaining? I doubt a wolf-on-wolf vote would have been a viable strategy then, especially since Eönwë is suspicious.

I would like to see some reasoning behind this list [of Nilp's]: (Aganzir)It's called gauging reactions. Most of the time I can't do it on WW cos of time restrictions on my part, but since I said I'll be taking this game more seriously (hence the waking up at 5am to participate in DAY-end activities*), I thought I could use it this time. It works most of the time for me with real people. ;)

I'm rather crestfallen that Durelin and Nogrod didn't react.

I see, though, I don't need to provoke reaction from you. You give it to me freely. :p
__________________
*Though toDAY I can't. Wake up at 5am, that is. :(

[Aganzir]

It's called gauging reactions.
I am not sure how versatile reactions you get when your accusations come out of nowhere and have no reasons behind them. Either people demand an explanation or ignore them as jokes.

And of course I give my reaction freely. It's all about openness, you know. And I have nothing to hide. :p

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

It's disappointing that I have to vote soon, and the DAY hasn't even advanced beyond its starting page. :(

Shasta is quite helpful. I'd like to keep him around.

sally my daughter is having fun. (I hope you did get to watch the Dr. Who finale, vzv, so you can get back to contributing. :p )

FormenDAGA can't get over his hatred for DAY 1s. I share your pain, brother, but it's already DAY 2. Even if we don't have a NIGHT kill (which, I agree, would have been a treasure trove of solid information), we still have the rather exciting voting from yesterDAY. Use it.

The Elf-Warrior remains cryptic.

Eönwë is quite prickly toDAY. *rubs chin*

Aganzir wants me. I don't think you're ready for this jelly. ;)
I am not sure how versatile reactions you get when your accusations come out of nowhere and have no reasons behind them. Either people demand an explanation or ignore them as jokes. (Aganzir)Which is a reaction in itself; I can live with either. And of course they'd have no reason yet; it was the 1st page of DAY 1, and I was trying to get discussion flowing away from IC posting.

Eomer is . . . Wargy. Whatever that means--which I don't.
2. Nilpaurion Felagund. Described the events as a ''train wreck''. Hardly. Just because we lynched an innocent? That usually happens in Werewolf. It gives us stuff to talk about the next day.As I said, we need not have killed an villager who didn't get to defend himself . . . Although I remember in WWVII that you were rather eager to protect the cannon fodder--me. Hmmm . . . What to make of this.

Blah, I'll play a game of DoTA with the accursed AI+ first before I vote. Hope to see more of you then.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Eomer is . . . Wargy. Whatever that means--which I don't.
As I said, we need not have killed an villager who didn't get to defend himself . . . Although I remember in WWVII that you were rather eager to protect the cannon fodder--me. Hmmm . . . What to make of this.

You honour me, brother Nilp. If I should be permitted to achieve only a small measure of the glory of Wargs...

Anyway, I agree the votes for VI were a bit strange and probably not the best option for any innocents who might have chosen him, but I still think describing it as ''a train-wreck'' could have had a darker motive.

[Eönwë]

hAy n00b!!11!

d0nt u no i woz ti3d with u & mith & sixth & n3ar DL???

r u b31ng IC & makeNg c0nsp1RacY th30r13z???

or r u st00pid or wot???11!!!

It was a theory that I rejected, then entertained with IC-ness.

Edit: Hmm.... At least, that's what I understood. Maybe Shasta will come up with a translation that requires a different answer. Only time will tell.


PS. And why are you moving to the 1337 side of things?

[Eönwë]

And Eönwë talks...

Is that synonymous to "And Eönwë will live to fight another day"?

[Nerwen]

And why are you moving to the 1337 side of things?

y r U poStiNg c0nsp1RacY th30r13z??? or r u juS7 bakcing off n0w???!111!!!

And of course I give my reaction freely. It's all about openness, you know. And I have nothing to hide.

Apart from the "being a wolf" thing, right?:p

Maybe I'm prejudiced here, Aganzir, but your activity yesterDay gives me a nasty impression of shopping around for someone to lynch.

On the other hand, at least you didn't vote "at random" or giving IC reasons, unlike some people I could mention.

[Boromir88]

Yesterday Nerwen looked like an easy target for the wolves, today I'm not so sure. She's still posting frequently, but the posts are all empty.

Maybe I'm prejudiced here, Aganzir, but your activity yesterDay gives me a nasty impression of shopping around for someone to lynch~Nerwen
There is no explanation, nothing. It's just' Aganzir's activity looks suspicious (ok why?) and it's arguably an easy statement for people to agree with, because Agan was drawing suspicions yesterday.
The reaction of Aganzir and later Rikae to this makes me wonder...
What were their reactions, what are you wondering about? I'm sorry right now I don't have time to go searching through all the posts to try to find what you mean. It would be much easier if everyone just explained themselves. But I got a feeling the hackers don't want to do that.

Making a statement (like Agan's activity yesterday rubs me the wrong way), that's easy for everyone to agree with, and not giving any kind of explanation looks highly suspicious. I can't see Nerwen as a hacker, I don't know why one would continue this charade from yesterday. Perhaps she's our spammer.

I wanted to make a comment on Formendacil, but am out of time, and will have a couple hours later before the deadline.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

++Eönwë

He remains the most suspicious for me. He hasn't done anything to assuage my suspicions from DAY 1.

That's it from me. Good DAY.

[Aganzir]

Aganzir wants me.
...dead. ;)

Maybe I'm prejudiced here, Aganzir, but your activity yesterDay gives me a nasty impression of shopping around for someone to lynch.
Do you have anything solid to back it up so it wouldn't look like you're just trying to make people feel uncomfortable about me? ;)

On the other hand, at least you didn't vote "at random" or giving IC reasons, unlike some people I could mention.
"I suspect you but I don't."
Are you trying to make it look like I was your fellow wolf or gain an ally by speaking nicely of my vote?

What were their reactions, what are you wondering about?
We both wanted her to explain why she thought so.

I think I wouldn't mind lynching her today. At least rather than Eönwë.

I'm leaving now, will be back later.

[Kitanna]

Kath random-votes. At least she's honest. Of course, a random-vote during Day 1 is nearly guaranteed not to be followed up, making it quite safe (and possibly wolf-on-wolf).
Do you think there'd be wolf-on-wolf voting so early?


Seriously, I don't find her particularly suspicious. Eomer and Eönwë have jumped on her for jumping on Sally for jumping on Sixth... what a mess.

I saw Eönwë's vote just now... Well he did exactly what I had said he has been doing and which I think is suspicious (jumping on other's ideas) and voted for Mith. I'm not sure if he just lacks ideas or whether he might act that way as a wolf. I mean it looks just too bold to do that for a wolf.

++The Sixth Wizard

If this is suspicious so be it.
Random or not you must have known Sixth wizard had garnered a fair number of votes already.

Yesterday Nerwen looked like an easy target for the wolves, today I'm not so sure. She's still posting frequently, but the posts are all empty.
A worrying truth indeed. Nerwen's posts are one liners, ICs, with an occasional post that clarifies or half-heatedly accuses.

Votes
Early votes
Form
Kit

Votes that spread it out
Form
Kit
Sally
Mith
Eomer
Kath
Ka
Durelin
These are the first/only to cast a vote for a specific person.

"Bandwagoners"
Eonwe
Boro
Rikae
Elf-warrior
Nerwen
Agan
Noggie

Most suspicious
Eonwe- Voted not long after Eomer for Mith based on her vote for Sally who was the first to vote for Sixth
Boro- Next vote for Sixth
Elf-warrior- Third vote for Sixth
Agan-Tied Eonwe and Sixth, though a tie doesn't result in a double-lynch a tie remains a tie. If nothing else it confuses and muddles things especially close to deadline.
This is based purely on when and how they voted for, not their reasoning behind it.

Agan & Eonwe's look the most suspicious to me based on timing. Though I'm going to read through their posts before deciding fully how I feel about either.

edit: adding spaces

[Nerwen]

It's just' Aganzir's activity looks suspicious (ok why?) and it's arguably an easy statement for people to agree with, because Agan was drawing suspicions yesterday.

What were their reactions, what are you wondering about?

I thought it was obvious: the fact that they tried to get me lynched for saying that. It makes me think I may have hit on something. After all, last game I picked a wolf on Day One and was promptly killed for my pains.

And my last post was leading up to another one, for your information:

People I could mention (random/frivolous voters)

Eönwë does give some actual reason for his vote, but it looks like he's just picking up on things other people have said.

++Mithalwen

Because of the way she posts, as if she's hiding behind hersef being IC but not at the same time. Hard to explain what I mean. Also, her attitude seems slightrly suspicious

"You should always sort out the problems nearby before you sort outt problems in the world", says me. And since we both live in "Beleriand" (accordinng to Nilp), she is definitely nearby.


Formendacil can't be accused of copy-cat suspicions; however, he gives no serious reason at all, plus he's pre-defensive, to coin an expression. (Or has someone done that already?)

suspect me all you like, but you'll not be able to accuse me of sneaking onto any bandwaggons.

++Nogrod

Because what would make a better cover for a hacker looking to overthrow the existing Mods than a pathetic wannabe-Mod? No one would suspect it.

Kath doesn't even try to explain her vote.

Alright, I'm giving up because I need to go to bed and I've people wanting to use the computer. Random vote because hey, it's Day 1. So truly random, I'm voting for the last person to post.

++EONWE

Neither does The Elf-warrior– and he's pre-defensive. Not only that, unlike the others he's "randomly" casting the third vote on The Sixth Wizard, bringing him into the lead.

The following is a random vote.

++The Sixth Wizard

If this is suspicious so be it.

EDIT: X'd with Aganzir, Kitanna.

[Nerwen]

Do you have anything solid to back it up so it wouldn't look like you're just trying to make people feel uncomfortable about me?

Just the way you seemed perfectly happy to get either Sixth or me lynched.

Are you trying to make it look like I was your fellow wolf or gain an ally by speaking nicely of my vote?

Eru forbid! I was leading up to my next post, where I list the random voters.

I think I wouldn't mind lynching her today. At least rather than Eönwë.

I see. A change of plans, eh?:p

[Kitanna]

Eonwe-
He makes note of Nogrod, Nerwen, and Form as the spammer around the 58th post.
++Mithalwen

Because of the way she posts, as if she's hiding behind hersef being IC but not at the same time. Hard to explain what I mean. Also, her attitude seems slightrly suspicious
I don't buy it. I feel the vote placing, the reasoning, the time, they all feel off. It all feels too neat and tidy.
Eonwe's vote comes out of the blue and it comes right after Eomer's vote for Mith.

Agan
Sixth. One post and speaks only of Nerwen, telling why we should vote for her.
This is Agan's first mention of Sixth as suspicious. Not much malice here. I said something similar in regards to Sixth's only post.
Sixth. Nothing's changed since my first post.
Again, but why? It seemed like Sixth's only post was made in jest.
Nerwen. She makes me uncomfortable and looks both guilty and innocent so I rather label her guilty. I don't know - there's something in the way she suspects people.
At this point it felt like you would have more of a case for Nerwen than Sixth.
I am planning to vote in an hour since I would love to get to sleep a bit earlier than during the last few days, and if I had to vote now it'd probably be for Sixth.
He had one IC joke in his first (and only) post, and then he accused Nerwen, half-jokingly and also with IC reasons. Wolves often throw random suspicion around and wait for someone to carry it on. That's why I'm also suspicious of Nerwen.
But if Sixth were a wolf, I'd say he'd have appeared again to defend/stir the pot elsewhere. Rather than disappearing.
In Agan's first posts there were a few of cutting down the IC chatter.
I feel uncomfortable with the way Nilp is now turning accusations from Nerwen and Sixth to people who suspect(ed) them.
Post 121 Agan votes for Sixth. It was clear that's where the vote was going. Sixth was a constant in her posts from the beginning. But the reasoning, everything based on his first and only post.

Timing wise, Eonwe looks worst. Reasoning wise, they look equal. Eonwe just jumps onto Mith after no previous mention. A constant in Agan's suspicions was Sixth so though her vote was placed in the midst of a bandwagon it was clear she had intentions to vote for Sixth.

If Agan is a hacker she's a sloppy or very clever one. I can't see a hacker basing everything on one IC post, especially after looking for people to move away from IC posts. No, that doesn't feel like a hacker to me, a spammer maybe.

Eonwe on the other hand is playing carefully. Taking up another suspicions after Mith places her vote for Sally. Yet, he never mentions her vote for Sally in his own vote. He pretty much says she "feels off" without prior mention.

[Nogrod]

It's always fun to visit friends you haven't seen in a long time and be a quest in other peoples' houses - and I've sure enjoyed my time here. But werewolfwise it's pretty frustrating... :(

Anyhow I've just read the thread for toDay and will be able to actually play later nearer the deadline (like on Day1).

Just a few short notes for now.

I appreciate Nerwen's listing of the frivolous votes". I do disappreciate them.

And what, Shasta said that "at least Kath is honest"! And I haven't seen anyone strongly disagreeing... I myself have rather lived by the standard twisted from Göbbels: "everytime I hear a declaration of a random vote I load my gun". And even if you don't agree with my policies against randomvoters you must agree that it's just nuts to declare someone to be honest if someone says: "I'll vote random" even if she adds it being the one who posted before her. Eonwe (the one without the ¨-marks voted once random for someone being seventh in the list after him etc.).

Like yesterDay I'm not buying this Nerwen is a wolf -argument unless it has more to it (brought there by myself or someone else). She looks more innocent and helpful than many around here.

Gah, my dad called and I need to go... I'll continue as soon as I may.

[Kitanna]

Again I can't wait to hear from those I suspect. So it comes to Eonwe, Agan, and Nerwen.

Eonwe and Agan because of their votes and reasoning.
And my suspicions of Nerwen have not lessened from yesterday. But I feel more confident in mischief on her part now than I did when I voted yesterday. However, I am not confident enough enough to vote for her.

Of Eonwe and Agan it becomes hard to chose. I feel both had rather flimsy reasons for voting the way they did. Eonwe's vote looks far more random and Agan's looks plan suspicious though unsurprising.

++ Aganzir

Eonwe warrants watching and carefully, but when it comes to these two I had to go with my gut feeling. Agan's vote for Sixth, in fact the entire suspicions raised against Sixth, feel wrong. Agan was looking for people to move away from IC posts in some of her earliest posts, but then she votes for someone who made one IC post and never defended themselves again. That all feels wrong to me and it doesn't make sense.

[Rikae]

Ok - The Elf-Warrior (who I was about to call "she" too, before Form beat me to it) started ringing my alarm bells from his first post yesterDay, and his vote is one of the most evil looking I have ever seen. However, there's something that bugs me about this - I'm not sure how often he's played WW before, but his first posts bothered me precisely because they looked like the nervously smiling, orchestrated posts of a newbie wolf. The rather cocky vote, however, is more like something a bold, experienced wolf might try as a method of "hiding in the open" - defying the village openly in a way a newbie wolf wouldn't dare to do. I will be watching him closely from now on - I have some more thoughts about him I'd rather not mention just yet.

Hmm. In #102, Nogrod expressly edits, mentioning Eonwe's edit to say he X'd with Eomer, but apparently did not X with anyone above him, leading me to an odd conclusion. To quote Alice; "Curiouser and curiouser!"

The post before Eomer's was Nogrod's, made two minutes earlier. The one before that was Eonwe's (sorry, I can type ö, but no appropriate e) earlier post. Incidentally, if Eonwe crossed with Eomer, it means he took between 9 and 7 minutes to make his vote-post... evidence of some dilly-dallying or careful thought, but not long enough to be suspicious. Not sure what exactly you're getting at, Shasta.

[Formendacil]

I retain a suspicion that at least one werewolf is hiding among the numerous Sixth voters. If nothing else, they comprise a bloc of voters that is just shy of 1/3 of the community, and so it seems statistically likely that 1/3 of the wolves voted thusly--if we assume all votes equal. They aren't, of course, but we haven't enough hindsight yet to weigh them accurately.

Our votes then (culled from Sally's very useful voting record, for Sixth:

Sally-->Sixth at 4:29pm
Boro-->Sixth at 5:42pm
Elf-->Sixth at 5:54pm
Agan-->Sixth at 5:56pm
Noggie-->Sixth at 5:59pm

As for Sally herself, her vote is sufficiently early in the record (although late in the day) to not garner too much suspicion. Few people had voted yet, she wasn't bandwaggoning, and accusing Sixth is entirely understandable since a case could be made that he was trying to fly under the radar. That being said, however, Sixth had definitely given signs of having fallen off the map, and with an hour and a half left of game time, Sally could have been taking a calculated risk that he would turn up towards the end and leave her vote just one of a number of one-only votes.

Suspicion Level: Low-to-Moderate

Boromir's vote brought Sixth to a tie for lynching with Mith. Although hardly a deciding vote, it is still a very crucial one in my opinion, since with under 20 minutes left and a number of votes yet uncast, those remaining to vote would likely be waiting to see where the wind was blowing, and cast one's vote onto a bandwaggon accordingly. In this case, Boromir's vote meant that Mithalwen was NOT the only player with a multiple number of votes. With this in mind, if Boromir IS a wolf, then Mith very well may be too.

Nothing conclusive from his voting, though it IS suspicious, but on top of this I would add a general feeling from Boromir's reaction to his inability to be online. Now, granted, he could be just a villager or gifted frustrated with an inability to contribute (Boro definitely fits the profile), but his anxiety seems to me almost a bit more personally related, as though he isn't able to influence the actions of the game as he would like. Obviously, this need not make him a wolf--he could just as easily be a cobbler--but it does raise the suspiciousness in my eyes.

Suspicion Level: Moderate-to-High

Elf-warrior's vote, as I have said, looks very bad. Not only did it solidly put Sixth in the lead--a lead he never lost, it was done for very vague reasons. As Nerwen puts it, he's pre-defensive. I would put it differently--he's calculatedly defiant. There's an air about his post of "this isn't really random and I'm not even going to make it look random." Overall, Elf-warrior seems to be posting just enough to not appear to be lurking, but not really substantially enough to form a judgement on--save his vote, which I would say speaks for itself.

Also, as with Boromir, if Elf-warrior is a wolf, one should definitely take a closer look at Mith for potential wolvishness.

Suspicion Level: High

Aganzir has been pushing buttons for two days now... but my understanding is that this is how she normally plays--an understanding that I may pay dearly for if I'm wrong. Her vote against Sixth is the least damning of the five, I would say, and I may get in hot water for saying why. Basically, it boils back to my opinions about Day 1s. Agan's vote, rightly or wrongly, strikes me in such a way as to suggest a similar attitude towards the likelihood of analysing a wolf out of the struggle, and while definitely not random, it's almost as if she's voting for Sixth with the attitude of "if we can't find a wolf, let's at least get rid of the deadwood" (no offence to the deceased, but Sixth was definitely not contributing a lot, real life circumstances to blame or no).

A case can be made against Agan, but I am not inclined to think in that direction.

Suspicion Level: Low

This leaves Nogrod. Perhaps I may seem biased after my vote against him yesterday, but I find him suspicious--albeit on actual grounds this time. Nogrod is no dullard, so the fact that he throws his vote away on Sixth at the very last minute, when there was already no doubt that he was going to be lynched, cannot be simply taken as a sign of an innocent tacking his vote on for the sake of voting and not wanting to make a decision that made a difference.

Rather, it would appear more likely that Nogrod is a wolf attempting to look like that, knowing that adding his vote uselessly to someone a wolf would know is innocent would give him just a touch of suspicion--enough to explain his lack of death at wolvish hands in days to come, and to free him from more serious suspicion that would come from a more serious vote.

Unfortunately, the whole difficulty with my crediting Nogrod with great intelligence here is that one can go deeper and deeper... what if Nogrod is a gifted looking like a werewolf looking like an ordo? Or a cobbler looking like a gifted looking like a werewolf looking like an ordo? Or a werewolf looking like a cobbler looking like a gifted looking like a werewolf looking like an ordo?

Suspicion Level: Moderate

On the basis of the above, I would be most inclined to vote Elf-warrior, but Boromir and Nogrod would be considerable also, if the voting winds blow that way.

[Rikae]

Oh, and one more thing regarding Eönwe and Eomer -
I can't for the life of me see what was so suspicious about Mith yesterday.

For that matter, I can't see why Sixth was lynched, or why Nerwen thought there was a wolf among Form/Agan/Nilp (not that there isn't), nor why Kitanna voted the indeed suspicious Nerwen for all the wrong reasons, nor why Nogrod was (and is) so quiet. *whew*

That said, there is an innocent (unless cobbler) now known to our ranger, and I suspect it is among those the wolves could be expected to want out of the way early on (which makes me feel better about Nogrod - or possibly, makes the ranger feel better about me? :smokin:)

Oh, and another thing - Form, in my opinion wolf kills (at least early in the game) are rarely as enlightening as they are made out to be. Usually, they absorb everyone's attention for the first half of the day and then everyone ends up agreeing that it was a "random kill" or possibly a bluff or a double bluff, leaving us where we started, but down an innocent and one day closer to annihilation. Three cheers for the ranger, I say.

EDIT: X'd with Formendacil

[Formendacil]

Oh, and another thing - Form, in my opinion wolf kills (at least early in the game) are rarely as enlightening as they are made out to be. Usually, they absorb everyone's attention for the first half of the day and then everyone ends up agreeing that it was a "random kill" or possibly a bluff or a double bluff, leaving us where we started, but down an innocent and one day closer to annihilation. Three cheers for the ranger, I say.

True enough... they are very often baffling. That being said, however, they provide more hard evidence than a successful Ranger save does. If nothing else, if one looks at all the suspicions of the eaten, and assume that they were all barking up the wrong trees, then we have that much more reason to look at the wolves.

That being said, I will not press the case too strongly, since for all I know--I'm barking up the wrong trees and the wolves are salivating at the thought. I would certainly prefer in such a case to be saved by the Ranger. I'm just pointing out that there is a pessimistic silvery lining to every gorgeous thunderstorm.

Off to church... back sometime later.

[Nerwen]

Kitanna, you are making my brain hurt!

my suspicions of Nerwen have not lessened from yesterday. But I feel more confident in mischief on her part now than I did when I voted yesterday. However, I am not confident enough enough to vote for her.

But... you're saying you were less confident yesterday, when you did vote for me. Huh?

Then you vote Aganzir, saying that she's more suspicious than Eönwë. Yet your previous post was a rather convincing argument for Eönwë being the more likely hacker of the two, with Aganzir the possible spammer.

What changed your mind?

Not sure what exactly you're getting at, Shasta.

I think he's implying that Eönwë lied about having x'd with Eomer.

(P.S. you can just copy people screennames from their posts, accents and all. That's what I do.)

EDIT: x'd with Formendacil, Rikae, & Formendacil again.

[Nerwen]

Since Rikae was curious, I looked up the Tol-in-Gaurhoth Grimoire. It appears this is The Elf-Warrior's third game, and unless he was a wolf in his first, he has never been one. So... are his tactics too bold for a newbie-wolf? His vote looks extremely non-innocent, but perhaps he is the cobbler/spammer?

I haven't decided who I'll vote for yet. I really have to get some sleep now. Hopefully I'll be back for the deadline. If not... well, you'll just have to do your best without me.

Goodnight.

EDIT: fixed stuff.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Two people, keeping to the sides, and who are making me wonder, are Durelin and THE Ka. At a point when there were 6 candidates with a vote, these two come in and offer another two candidates. Of course any limit to the number of candidates has to be arbitrary, but I wonder if Durelin and Ka weren’t trying too hard not to bandwagon. Their subdued interaction in the village further suggests that they are just letting everyone else do the thinking, and politely staying in the shadows.

[THE Ka]

I wonder if Durelin and Ka weren’t trying too hard not to bandwagon.

I can’t speak for Durelin obviously, but the bandwagon I was avoiding since I was a bit behind the development of the posts, was the N/F/A one brewing earlier. Simply, I thought it was a wasted effort and went on to vote how I wanted to. As for Sixth’s bandwagon, I of course read Agan’s original post stating that she’d more than likely vote for him, but wasn’t sure. Then she quavered between Nerwen and a few others, but always mentioned Sixth as a sidenote. Thinking is a process, but it struck me as odd for Agan to carry extra baggage in voting possibilities. Usually she is more clean-cut, and she gave the impression of forcing herself to ‘appear’ her vote indecisively.

Personally, I didn’t see any great reasoning ground to vote for Sixth anyways. He looked like an easy kill once others started pouncing on his posts, so I ignored the posts against him and the bandwagon, shrugged it off, and went back to my earlier suspicions and what I genuine suspicion in at that time. I’m only a bit tired in floating around without much of a clue, to which bandwagons are a great remedy, but I’m voting for what I want to now and so I’m just not really looking at bandwagons or what time my vote came in. As long as it is before the deadline, that really only what I care about.

Unfortunately today a bit of problems just brewed up so I more than likely will not be able to make it before the deadline, or I'll have to vote early anyways. Wish I could say more, but life happens. :rolleyes:


~ Ka

[Mithalwen]

First, I find it highly suspicious when players 'lament' the situation. Three people fit this category so far.

1. Mithalwen. The original reason I suspected her; I did not, as Nerwen claimed, simply jump on her for jumping on Sally.

It's this kind of negative lamentation that I find so suspicious. It appears as an appeal to the goodness of the poster -- ...' Seems so artificial to me.




So is there a positive lamentation you approve of? If I were lamenting the situation it was befcause, not having home access I had been sitting around after a long day and week in a draughty library then cybercafe for the sake of reading about 20 posts over more than 4 hours, I assure you any negative feelings were quite genuine.

Of course those who pop in and make a couple of posts are beyond reproach... :rolleyes:

That is what I will be doing today but not for that reason I have been sick and now seem to be running a temperature so I think it may not just be my lactose intolerance. Whatever it is I want to get home soon so....

I will try to read through again and make a vote that won't be completely random - though I observe that voting at literally the last minute while exhorting everyone else to make a decision has been a trait of a wolvish Nogrod in recent games I have played.

However random votes that seal someone's fate are also noteworthy as are following on someone elses coat tails - I have started to think of Eonwe as Eomer's mini-me now ;) .

On my first skim I am intrigued by the reaction to the ranger save - now I wouldn't expect effusive congratulation but.... oddness lots of oddness. But I am afraid my next post will quite possibly be my last.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I think I understand your annoyance, Mith, but to dedicate so much time to a Day One? To expect lots of interesting stuff? Madness!

Anyway, whenever a player uses one of these -- :( -- in a post to express thoughts or emotions relating to the village's chances, or in this case the villagers' volume of debate, it always makes me very suspicious. That's all I will say on the matter.

Hope you don't get too ill, like; I've been sneezing non-stop for hours now and feel awful.

:(



;)

[Mithalwen]

Eomer, one of the reasons I don't play so much is because I don't feel I can participate properly. And I am becoming a very grouchy old lady these days but saying it is pointless to spend time on day ones is a a rather self fulfilling prophecy. All the fenris wolves have learnt the hard way that day ones can be productive....

If it had been a tiny village I wouldn't have been so suprised but 19 is big and when it includes lots who normally talk a lot - I didn't really factor in the effect of the US holiday and Nogrod being away otherwise I might have gone sooner - though it seems, typically, that everyone crawled out of the woodwork the moment I went.

Anyway, I now see I was wrong Sally was quite effusive. She is quite perly generally but I do remember that when I made a save as a ranger (rare moment of glory), one of the wolves made a big show of congratulations, and I all but posted "why, thank you!".. however in itself I find Form's attitude a bit strange - to expect to learn much from a first wolf kill is truly optimistic...
but I do agree with him about the Elf Warrior's vote - with such a wide field it was decisive and so anything but random.

Nilp - seems very rational - Son? Are you feeling ok?

Excuse me I need to break this post...

[Rikae]

I think he's implying that Eönwë lied about having x'd with Eomer.


Yes, but why? Because he posted 7 minutes after Eomer? Because he didn't cross with Nogrod? Either way, it seems pretty far-fetched.

I will say that, Shasta's theory aside, Eönwë's vote doesn't look particularly well-reasoned anyway.

[Rikae]

If EW doesn't start speaking up in a helpful and non-evil manner very soon, I suggest we lynch him. He's contributing very little and what he does contribute exudes evil.

EW, you have one hour to convince me that you are not a danger to the village...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ah, someone else has posted about Eonwe. Sorry lad, but...

His posts 58 and 70 are, well, I can't think of the word but how one would describe a big ladle stirring mixture in a bubbling cauldron. Making fuss over Formendacil and Aganzir for very slight things. I think he might be our spammer, actually.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

If EW doesn't start speaking up in a helpful and non-evil manner very soon, I suggest we lynch him. He's contributing very little and what he does contribute exudes evil.

EW, you have one hour to convince me that you are not a danger to the village...

Is this a self-reference, Evil Wizard? :p

For the slow among us, who or what is EW?

EDIT: Elf-Warrior, right.

[Rikae]

Is this a self-reference, Evil Wizard? :p

Yep. I also neglected to mention my new gender. :p

[Mithalwen]

Ah I now see Rikae has already made my point. I clearly am not up to contributing anything much original today and am feeling worse.


Eonwe's post is odd but maybe too conspicuous for a wolf - it is very attention seeking to copy cat like that. Of course it could be a bluff but risky. If he had already got votes I could understand it more but he only got votes after so he wasn't acting through self preservation. Seems more like he could be the spammer.

So it is going to be

++Elf Warrior

I don't know what he was doing with that vote but it wasn't random. So that is it...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Formendacil: intelligent player. Don’t trust him but like to keep him around for now.

Kitanna: Always wary of her (we have a colourful WW history). Hasn’t worried me too much but I know she’s a good lurker.

Sally: Posting style is suspicious to me but I know she did that last game as innocent.

Mithalwen: Suspicious. Don’t trust.

Eonwe: Seems like trouble.

Kath: No idea yet.

THE Ka: Smooth and creepy so far.

Durelin: Not much to go on but definitely on my quiet-wolf list.

Boromir88: Always gives the village something to talk about, so like to keep him around.

Nilpaurion: Speaks some sense but my intuition is different with dear cousin Nilp in this game. A bit suspicious.

Rikae: Sort of trust her so far.

Elf Warrior: Almost certainly up to something. Not sure what.

Nerwen: making more sense the more we play. Trusting her a little bit more.

Aganzir: I know it’s dangerous, but because her thoughts often mimic mine, I usually end up agreeing with her.

Nogrod: Not sure yet.

[Nogrod]

so the fact that he throws his vote away on Sixth at the very last minute, when there was already no doubt that he was going to be lynched, cannot be simply taken as a sign of an innocent tacking his vote on for the sake of voting and not wanting to make a decision that made a difference.I think you are forgetting an important thing here. I really needed to consider the vote there - I mean in the end I actually voted not my prime suspects but one I'd agree.

In case of a tie the lynchee will be randomised. After Agan's vote Sixth had 4 votes, Eönwë 3 and Nerwen & Mith 2 each - and there were three who had not voted yet. So there was a danger of a tie of three emerging including Mith or Nerwen (whom I considered and still do consider not good lynches at least before any better reasons are given). By voting Sixth I did my best to keep Mith & Nerwen away from the gallows.

I'm not saying they are innocents. And if I still live toMorrow I will have to look at them closer (as I will then have time again).


But Form is right in asking after those voting for the Sixth as he turned out an "easy prey" indeed.

I'll try to do that myself as well as I return to the computer.

[Boromir88]

Formen, I am frustrated by not being able to be on-line and contribute. Plain and simple, frustrated, make of that what you will.

Most suspicious
Eonwe- Voted not long after Eomer for Mith based on her vote for Sally who was the first to vote for Sixth
Boro- Next vote for Sixth
Elf-warrior- Third vote for Sixth
Agan-Tied Eonwe and Sixth, though a tie doesn't result in a double-lynch a tie remains a tie. If nothing else it confuses and muddles things especially close to deadline.
This is based purely on when and how they voted for, not their reasoning behind it.~Kitanna
Why are the bandwagoners the one's who are most suspicious? It is bandwagoning which causes us to win. We latch onto the ideas we think sound reasonable and go with it.

The one's to be wary of are the bold wolves who will lead a bandwagon against somebody; like Nogrod. Or the bandwagoners who jump on and only repeat what's already been said (the crafty ones will put it in different words to make it look like they came up with something). Which is why I don't buy into Eonwe's vote for Mith as being a bandwagoning wolf, or Mith's jump on sally for voting for the Sixth.

My point is the hackers will play into our hands, if all day long everyone is talking about who's jumping on and bandwagoning, the hackers are going to avoid bandwagoning and stay out of suspicion. I think we should play closer attention to those who tried to spread out the votes more and avoid falling under the "bandwagoner" category.

Like yesterDay I'm not buying this Nerwen is a wolf -argument unless it has more to it (brought there by myself or someone else). She looks more innocent and helpful than many around here.~Nogrod
Ok, let me try to explain it to you then. You say Nerwen has looked to be helpful, I say don't let looks deceive you. Yesterday, it looked like Nerwen was an easy wolf target, because of her headache causing IC posts. However, today she's kept up the same act as yesterday...posting frequently, but not saying much or being pretty vague (albeit she has mostly stopped the chatspeak talk).

It's this today that has bugged me:
Maybe I'm prejudiced here, Aganzir, but your activity yesterDay gives me a nasty impression of shopping around for someone to lynch.

On the other hand, at least you didn't vote "at random" or giving IC reasons, unlike some people I could mention.
She strongly goes after Agan, and then half-heartedly defends Agan's vote. I'm not sure how Agan "shopped around for someone to lynch," without knowing anything that's what we have to do. I can get too narrow-minded, it's good to have people who want to look at all possibilities, all situations. That makes Agan look like she's shopping around for someone to lynch but that doesn't make Agan an evil hacker. That makes her look innocent trying to come up with an answer.

Then it's the slight defense, well Agan's vote wasn't for IC reasons, that looks like a fake defense.

Which reminds me of what I was going to say about Formendacil's vote. Tis an odd vote, but don't know if it is the vote of a hacker. I do remember my first time in a village with Formen jumping on him for making an IC vote, and he turned out to be a wolf. I also remember the next time I was in a village with Formen he made an IC vote, I jumped on him again, that time he was innocent. I have a sense that's Formen's style on Day 1, it doesn't mean he isn't a hacker, but his IC vote for Nogrod alone does not make him look like one.

Edit: crossed with everything since Eomer's 7:51 post

[THE Ka]

Personally, I think Eonwe’s vote appearing right after Eomer’s is probably a result turned in favour of safety. More than likely he was going over his final thoughts on his top suspects, wrote the post and voted. After going through the heat of trying to make a good point on the first day (which, everyone wants to do), noticed Eomer’s vote several minutes before. It appears like bandwagoning, but it simply could be a result of posting and the rate of your post appearing where and when in a thread. Similar to how Durelin or my vote-post appears in the middle of the Sixth bandwagon.
When you’re busy in your own little world of indecision, you don’t pay attention to the average rate of posting between votes, or at least I don’t. It’s like doing calculus when you’re falling off a cliff.

Hmm, maybe I’m just taking too much pity than I should, but in all rationality it could simply be a stroke of luck for his vote.
Whether he is a wolf or not, it both save him and cast suspicion on his earlier posts as well.

Mith I don’t really have a complete opinion on. If she were feeling a bit better (sorry to hear about the summer cold) she probably could post more to clarify her opinions toDay, vs. her pattern from yesterDay. I’ve been reading over her posts several times, because I know something is hiding in all of that indecision, but her vote and view on the Sixth suspicion bandwagon could easily be used for or against her. Against, obviously because she had suspicion on why Sixth was such a wise choice to kill, then for time restrictions had to vote early with little grounded reason. In that order she can be taken as a wolf trying to slip out easily. For, because others disagreed with the Sixth bandwagon and in its hasty creation after the Nerwen backtrack and N/F/A affair, because of sally’s vote appearing like a safe guess.

Sally’s vote obviously was a gamble that came out correct for a strong bandwagon, but you can’t place solid suspicion on her knowing this, because I doubt she could telepathically search into our minds and guess our votes. Plus you can’t retract votes anyways, so there isn’t much else to say on this. If she is a wolf, she was no luckier than if she is an ordo who had a case of indecision and went with the strongest appearing argument of others.
In this same respect, I doubt Mith could have known it was going to be such a strong vote for Sixth, since at that time all our votes were spread out and she herself had two votes over her head. Probably good guessing, I don’t really know. This could make her suspicious for appearing ‘safe’, but the same could be said of most of us.

Aganzir, of course I have suspicion on (it’s natural, I probably always will…), because I know she’s a clever one, but I’m going to vainly hope that for the sake of diversity in the werewolf playing style, Brinn didn’t make her a wolf this time. She always appears suspicious, but ‘werewolf evil’ this time? Not so much. She gives too many options in her vote rationale toDay. If she is a wolf, oh well, just kill me now then.

Durelin I know nothing about. Sorry.

Nilp, even if he is suspicious at points, has been helpful and rational for the majority of toDay. I have little suspicion of him at the moment, plus, good vibes I guess is the best way of saying so.

Boro88 is hard to form any opinion of at the moment. I never can tell much about him anyways, due to a lack of WW co-player experience.

Form, really, no experience with or opinion fully developed on. Doesn’t matter what role he’s playing, so far he has appeared collective and grounded.

Sally, really not much either. She’s acted similar with her posting style before in either role as an ordo or a wolf. As a gifted I know she acts differently, but not as she’s been playing toDay or yesterDay. I won’t have much more of an opinion until after toDay and if she votes as well.

Ugh, there I go rationalizing myself out of my only suspicions. I don’t have more time to spare before the deadline so, I’m going to vote anyways.

++Eonwe

Only because out of my indecision, it’s the one I think know more about at the moment.

Okay, I need to return to my job precessing and bothering HR, sorry to leave so soon, but I need my job because I need money and experience as everyone else does.:rolleyes:

~ Ka

[Aganzir]

Agan-Tied Eonwe and Sixth, though a tie doesn't result in a double-lynch a tie remains a tie. If nothing else it confuses and muddles things especially close to deadline.
So I should always vote for the one who has the most votes at that moment even though I'm planning to get someone else lynched, because ties are confusing? Ai-ai, I don't buy your reasoning.

I thought it was obvious: the fact that they tried to get me lynched for saying that.
Just the way you seemed perfectly happy to get either Sixth or me lynched.
I might have troubles with my memory, but I cannot remember trying to get you lynched on day 1. Why? Because I didn't even consider voting for you then.
I suspected you, though not as much as today. I was accusing you. But I found it unlikely that I would end up voting for you. If I don't have any very strong suspicions I rather vote for the more silent one.

I see. A change of plans, eh?
Which plans?

Nerwen has been talking more or less nonsense to a scary extent (and I'm not referring to chatspeak now :p). There's definitely something uncharacteristical in her behaviour - random accusations, poor reasoning, twisting the truth...

Again, but why? It seemed like Sixth's only post was made in jest.
Because that post was suspicious. Had it been wolfish, if people had started suspecting Nerwen it would have been easy for Sixth to continue it; if not, if he had got suspected for it himself, he could have said it was merely a jest.

But if Sixth were a wolf, I'd say he'd have appeared again to defend/stir the pot elsewhere. Rather than disappearing.
He's one of the quieter players anyway so I wouldn't have counted on that.

Agan's vote, rightly or wrongly, strikes me in such a way as to suggest a similar attitude towards the likelihood of analysing a wolf out of the struggle, and while definitely not random, it's almost as if she's voting for Sixth with the attitude of "if we can't find a wolf, let's at least get rid of the deadwood"
*gives Form a cookie*

My list right now looks like this:

Guilty
Nerwen for reasons mentioned, and my favourite lynching candidate for today.
Nilp for reasons mentioned.
EW. I don't like him, either. But I'd like to point out that, if I remember correctly, the last time I played with him he was suspected for pretty much the same reasons and was innocent, so although suspicious, his behaviour isn't necessarily wolfish. But he definitely isn't of much help to the village, and if those are to be lynched, it should be done early. I'm too lazy to dig deeper into his posts right now to search for clearly wolfish vibes, but mostly because of my opinion expressed in the previous sentence he gets onto the list.

Innocent
Boro because he speaks sense and I agree with him too much.
Rikae because she speaks sense and I agree with her too much, although this worries me a bit. I have a feeling I should suspect her.
Mithalwen because she just looks innocent (although she hasn't claimed innocence yet).
Shasta strikes me as innocent, and as he's helpful, I'd rather not lynch him.
Eomer. I think I could actually say the same - I think quite the same way as he, so I won't be going after him at least for a while.
Ka, for now. I have this naive idea that she might not suspect me if she was a wolf. Well, not that she did it that much, but... Though I will be keeping an eye on her since she can be very cunning.
Nogrod feels innocent enough to get on the list, but I don't trust him.
Eönwë. I can't see anything that suspicious about him. Maybe because he's still relatively new to ww and somehow I believe he would be more apparent if a wolf.

Neither
Kitanna. I admit she has valid points in suspecting me, but I can't really trust anyone I know for sure is accusing an innocent.
Kath. Where is she?
Durelin. Where is she?
sally. No idea.
Form leaves me baffled.

edit: xed with Ka

[The Elf-warrior]

Sorry, all, I have no time to talk.

++Eönwë

[Shastanis Althreduin]

hAy n00b!!11!

d0nt u no i woz ti3d with u & mith & sixth & n3ar DL???

r u b31ng IC & makeNg c0nsp1RacY th30r13z???

or r u st00pid or wot???11!!! (Nerwen)

Translation:

Hey, silly new person!

Don't you know I was tied for votes with yourself, Mithalwen, and Sixth near the deadline?

Are you being in-character and making up ridiculous conspiracy theories?

Or, are you stupid or what?

y r U poStiNg c0nsp1RacY th30r13z??? or r u juS7 bakcing off n0w???!111!!! (Nerwen)

Translation:

Why are you posting ridiculous conspiracy theories? Or are you just backing off now?

With 12 votes still remaining? I doubt a wolf-on-wolf vote would have been a viable strategy then, especially since Eönwë is suspicious. (Nilp)

Yes, but Eonwe wasn't suspicious then, really, all the attention was on Agan, Form, and Sixth.

Do you think there'd be wolf-on-wolf voting so early? (Kitanna)

I don't see why not. It's not as if anyone would follow the first vote for someone, clearly labeled as "random".

I think my next course of action will be to go back and see if I can figure out who was conspicuous enough (assuming they both picked a loud person) to be targeted both by the wolves and the Ranger - that path hasn't been taken yet, can't hurt, and might help. How long before deadline, may I ask? I wasn't here for it yesterday.

Edit: X'd with Agan and... Elf-warrior. Oh, dear.

[Boromir88]

I'm going to take Kitanna's list to start looking at those who "spreaded" out the votes:
Votes that spread it out
Form
Kit
Sally
Mith
Eomer
Kath
Ka
Durelin
This is going to be very hypocritical of me, because I think way too much focus is being placed on too few people (Eonwe, Agan, Nerwen), thus I want to put more people under the radar.

Form was the first to vote for Nogrod. An IC vote, but I hold what I said earlier, that vote alone doesn't make him a hacker. That's how Formen seems to play Day 1's, whether he's a hacker or not. So, strictly going by his vote, he doesn't look suspicious.

Kitanna's vote for Nerwen. I also still hold to believe her vote yesterday was a well-reasoned one placed by an innocent. It's her early vote today, for Agan, that baffles me (after agreeing with me about Nerwen, and Nerwen looking more 'suspicious then yesterday). Agan must have done a pretty good leap-frog job then for you Kit?

sally's first vote for the Sixth doesn't look all that suspicious. I don't agree with Mith's feeling she was capitalizing on the growing suspicions of Sixth.

Mith's vote for sally does look odd, I find myself agreeing with Eomer that Mith was quick to jump onto sally as possibly being a "bandwagoning hacker" after the Sixth was growing in suspicion.

Eomer's vote for Mith also looks odd, because he was quick to jump on Mith for jumping on to sally. Eomer is one who is quick to react, and always seems to have some sort of trap set. I haven't seen anything else to worry me about Eomer, maybe his vote was an over-reaction to Mith's reaction.

Kath's complete random vote...that also baffles me. It baffles me in the sense that I just don't know what to think about it. I can see a bold wolf come oout and just cast a random vote, while publicly declaring that it is definitely random. I don't know if it's something Kath would do. Maybe I'm foolishly underestimating her, there's not enough on her yet to tell.

The Ka, for Rikae. Of all the vote spreaders, this one looks the most suspicious. Ka said she had a bad feeling about Rikae, and that she couldn't explain it. It's dangerous to let Rikae run wild, but to borrow Eomer's words, this is the vote that looks like someone didn't want to be a bandwagoning wolf. And she attaches the easiest accusation in the books..."Rikae doesn't make me feel good."

Edit: crossed with every post since Ka's

[Eönwë]

Votes so far:

Nilpaurion Felagund- Eönwë :(
Kitanna- Aganzir
Mithalwen- Elf-Warrior

So, no bandwaggons yet. Everyone's voted for someone differrent.


PS. Internet blip. Last post I saw was Boro's #189

[Aganzir]

Sorry, all, I have no time to talk.

++Eönwë

No time to talk now or no time to talk at all?

I am seriously tempted to vote for EW.

edit because I forgot to add that a person who won't be modfired because of voting yet is not speaking is not of much use. Though I think it was quite clear anyway.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Need to vote very soon. Considering voting Mithalwen again but figure I won't get support for that. So I'll probably be content to leave that discussion for Day 3.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Actual Vote Count (I feel like phantom! :p)

Nilp - Eonwe (Eonwe1)
Kitanna - Aganzir (Eonwe1, Aganzir1)
Mithalwen - Elf-Warrior (Eonwe1, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Ka - Eonwe (Eonwe2, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Elf-Warrior - Eonwe (Eonwe3, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)

Making this the second day in a row that Elf-Warrior's cast a vote for the person with the most votes with no explanation...

Edit: X'd with Eomer.

[Eönwë]

Well, my suspicion of Mith has dissipated a bit. Mith, I don't suspect you as much any more. That is not to say you don't need monitoring, though. You seem to have settled down a bit. I think that there are far more suspicious people on this forum...


To correct my last, post, I will say that maybe a bandwaggon is forming, and against me!

Most suspicious person on my list:
The Elf-Warrior

Votes for me after two others have, and with no reason either. Then again, THE Ka seemed like she didn't think I was guilty, but then voted me.



Elf-Warrior, if you don't sayy someting to convinve me otherwise in the next 30 minutes, I think I might have to vote you.

edit: x-ed with Agan, Eomer and Shasta

[Shastanis Althreduin]

As to my previous post; I decided to go do something different, and leave the wolves and Ranger - however, I might go back to that later. :rolleyes:

Is the deadline in the next hour, then? It's 5:00 PM for me right now.

[Formendacil]

Votes so far:

Nilpaurion Felagund- Eönwë :(
Kitanna- Aganzir
Mithalwen- Elf-Warrior

Thinking over these three potential lynchees, I'm left leaning more strongly towards Elf-warrior.

Eönwë has struck me as a rather annoying in his playing style, but this is more along the line of personalities than hard suspicions, and people rubbing each other the wrong way happens in WW. I have been accused of the same myself, and I think I should know better than to vote people off based on pure dislike.

Kitanna's accusation of Aganzir somehow makes me more confident in Agan's innocence. I'm wary of Kitanna, but not anywhere ready to declare her lupine on that basis.

Which leaves Elf-warrior. Mith's willingness to vote for him does not, if he is a wolf, absolve her of wolvishness, but rather makes me even more likely to suspect her. Voting for a fellow wolf, even at serious risk of a bandwaggon, has precedent. On the other hand, Mith is generally astute enough that if innocent, I feel my suspicions confirmed by her sharing them.

This leaves me, I realise, in the odd state of reading into Mith's actions, regardless of her role, a confirmation of my own prejudices in the matter.

Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it at the moment...

Due to thunder and lightning and the consequent concern of my parents for their computer, I have to vote now. If the weather passes before the deadline, I'll be back to contribute, but I have no assurance of that.

++The Elf-Warrior

[Formendacil]

Just enough time to comment on posts missed since replying...

Eönwë will not be much missed by me if he should go, but I am rather surprised that such attention has accrued to him. Overall, he strikes me as more non-useful than clearly malevolent.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Agree with many others here. Elf-Warrior has to go. He is clearly up to no good, whether he be hacker or spammer (and I am inclined to think he is more likely spammer).

++ELF-WARRIOR

I just can't see a villager or a mod acting the way he is.

[Boromir88]

I don't want to see Eonwe lynched, I strongly disagree with Formendacil that he doesn't seem useful. We need thinkers who will try to spot hacker behaviors, and we need followers who read through everything and reach then trust their own judgement. Eonwe strikes me as the latter.

Thus, I would rather vote for Elf-warrior than Eonwe. But, I caution against a counter-bandwagon here against EW. What are our other options? Eomer has expressed a preference for Mith. Ok, Eomer, convince me on why Mith is suspicious.

I would prefer Nerwen, because me suspect she be the spammer.

Edit: crossed with Eomer

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I personally wouldn't mind seeing Eonwe gone, because he and Eomer still strike me as the most suspicious from yesterday. Elf-warrior isn't being actively unhelpful; maybe he's just having issues?

[Nerwen]

HI PPL!!!!111!!! BET U M1ST ME TH1S TIEM!!!111!!!

–be back when I've read through the thread.

[Kath]

You have my abject apologies for my non-appearance until now toDay. A cheer competition went on longer than expected and then I had to watch Doctor Who before I was spoilered for it.

I don't want to vote because I truly haven't read any of toDay's posts and I don't think I'll be able to get through them all before the deadline. Nor, however, do I want to be modfired, so could someone let me know the ruling on that? If a vote is necessary to stay in the game I'll do what I did yesterDay and come back fresh and free toMorrow. If a vote is not necessary I simply won't vote and still come back afresh toMorrow.

So ... Brinn? Are you around to answer me on that or does anyone else know.

Apologies also for the total OOC-ness of this post, it has just occurred to me that this should be in the admin thread, but I suspect our mod will be checking this one more often anyway.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

You're only modfired if you don't vote twice in a row, Kath. Since you voted yesterday, I think you're safe if you don't want to vote today. :)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

HI PPL!!!!111!!! BET U M1ST ME TH1S TIEM!!!111!!!


Translation:

Hello, everyone. I'd hazard a guess that you missed my presence this time.

[Aganzir]

I would prefer Nerwen, because me suspect she be the spammer.
Me too. Though I'm not really sure - Nerwen posts while EW doesn't, but she's also so much more suspicious, yet she doesn't have any votes yet whereas EW has three.

I read through Nogrod's posts because I kept having a nagging bad feeling about him, but he still looks innocent.

edit: xed with Shasta
edit2: one>three. Somehow I only thought of the last vote count when writing this post and didn't take into account the fact that Form and Eomer had voted for EW.

[Nogrod]

My dad went to bed then... :)

I must join the apologies Kath made as it seems I don't have time for any thorough analysis, but I'll do what I can.

Forty minutes to go - as someone asked it just a while ago.

[Nogrod]

Nilp - Eonwe (Eonwe1)
Kitanna - Aganzir (Eonwe1, Aganzir1)
Mithalwen - Elf-Warrior (Eonwe1, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Ka - Eonwe (Eonwe2, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Elf-Warrior - Eonwe (Eonwe3, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Form - Elf-Warrior (Eonwe3, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior2)
Eomer - Elf-Warrior (Eonwe3, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior3)

Can anyone confirm this is right? I don't think I have time to go back and check the early voting now...

[Aganzir]

Unless I'm seriously mistaken, that's right, Nog.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

That's what I see too, and with twenty minutes to go, I'll add my own vote.

++ Eonwe

for reasons earlier stated.

[Eönwë]

Ok- I don't have anymore time:

++The Elf-Warrior

edit: x-ed since first post on this page (I didn't realise there was a new one)

[Boromir88]

Me too. Though I'm not really sure - Nerwen posts while EW doesn't, but she's also so much more suspicious, yet she doesn't have any votes yet whereas EW has one.~Agan
And I'm always nervous about after having 2-3 choices, deciding to bandwagon against someone else, and that person isn't even hear to explain themselves. But Nerwen has now made her presense known, so maybe something will come up.

Elf-Warrior's behavior surely is odd, but I agree that his behavior doesn't look like a hacker. It's not helpful, but the only reason I can see EW being a hacker is if they are sacrificing him.

But what would be the reason? I doubt hackers would just wantonly sacrifice themselves, there would have to be some sort of reason. I can see Eomer's reasoning that he is the spammer, and thus he's sacrificing himself for someone he thinks is a hacker.

[Rikae]

Well, Elf Warrior seems to be making himself scarce. I say, let's get to the bottom of this:

++The Elf Warrior

EDIT: Somehow, I seem to have cross posted with the whole page.

[Brinniel]

Nor, however, do I want to be modfired, so could someone let me know the ruling on that? If a vote is necessary to stay in the game I'll do what I did yesterDay and come back fresh and free toMorrow.
Shasta is correct. You don't have to vote toDay, but then be sure to do so toMorrow....otherwise, you will be modfired.

[Nerwen]

Okay, back.

I am still not keen on the reasoning behind Kitanna's vote (see #167 & #169), to the extent that I think I will give Aganzir a pass this time.

I can't really see any good reason not to vote The Elf-Warrior, after his latest effort; however, if he is a wolf rather than the spammer (I think he must be one or the other), then this is surely a pre-arranged suicide.

EDIT: X'd with everyone since Aganzir at #210.

EDIT2: clarification– if he's the spammer it's just a suicide.

[Kath]

Message received. :) From toMorrow (RL as well as on here) I'm completely free and so can play properly.

[Aganzir]

And I'm always nervous about after having 2-3 choices, deciding to bandwagon against someone else, and that person isn't even hear to explain themselves. But Nerwen has now made her presense known, so maybe something will come up.
I'm not quite sure what you are referring to, but at least to Nerwen it has been pretty clear that I'm planning to vote for her.
Anyway, I don't find it very likely EW is a wolf, but if he continues playing the way he does, he's only dead weight.

edit: xed with Nerwen and Kath

[Eönwë]

EDIT: Somehow, I seem to have cross posted with the whole page.

same here.

[Aganzir]

Nilp - Eonwe (Eonwe1)
Kitanna - Aganzir (Eonwe1, Aganzir1)
Mithalwen - Elf-Warrior (Eonwe1, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Ka - Eonwe (Eonwe2, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Elf-Warrior - Eonwe (Eonwe3, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior1)
Form - Elf-Warrior (Eonwe3, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior2)
Eomer - Elf-Warrior (Eonwe3, Aganzir1, Elf-Warrior3)
Shasta - Eönwë (Eönwë4, Agan1, EW3)
Eönwë - EW (Eönwë4, Agan1, EW4)
Rikae - EW (Eönwë4, Agan1, EW5)

edit: six votes to come, given that Kath isn't voting. Why do I always forget to mention half the things I was planning to?

[Nogrod]

I was suspicious of Kitanna uesterDay (and I've given my points there). The following from toDay raises another eyebrow.
Most suspicious
Eonwe- Voted not long after Eomer for Mith based on her vote for Sally who was the first to vote for Sixth
Boro- Next vote for Sixth
Elf-warrior- Third vote for Sixth
Agan-Tied Eonwe and Sixth, though a tie doesn't result in a double-lynch a tie remains a tie. If nothing else it confuses and muddles things especially close to deadline.
This is based purely on when and how they voted for, not their reasoning behind it.
Agan & Eonwe's look the most suspicious to me based on timing. Though I'm going to read through their posts before deciding fully how I feel about either. I have done that kind of lists a few times when I have been a wolf. It's an easy way to add some pressure to people who already are under suspicion (Eonwe, Elf-W & Agan in this case) while simultaneusly underlining that it was based only "on the time of the vote" or something like that. So it's kind of adding weight in the absence of any more conclusive arguments.

I see things happening... I'll continue this if I have time. Need to read the latest first.

EDIT: added underlining to the quote

[Eönwë]

If I'm not mistaken, these are the votes so far:

Nilp - Eönwë
Kitanna - Aganzir
Mithalwen - Elf-Warrior
Ka - Eönwë
Elf-Warrior - Eönwë
Form - Elf-Warrior
Eomer - Elf-Warrior
Shastanis Althreduin-Eönwë
Eönwë-Elf-Warrior
Rikae-Elf-Warrior

So, the scores are:

Elf-Warrior-5
Eönwë- 4
Aganzir- 1


Seems like I've become a suspicious character lately...:rolleyes:

edit: x-ed with Agan (beat me to it) and Nog

[Aganzir]

Hmm I suppose we have no chance to lynch Nerwen anymore? It would take all the remaining votes, one of them being hers.

I do want her to be lynched some day though.

[Nerwen]

How long before the DL?

EDIT: X'd with Eönwë & Aganzir. Sorry, Aganzir, don't think I can oblige.:p

[Aganzir]

15 minutes.

[Boromir88]

I'm not quite sure what you are referring to, but at least to Nerwen it has been pretty clear that I'm planning to vote for her.~Agan
I meant I have been the victim (and have also done it to others) of being the last minute bandwagon at the end of voting when there were two people who looked in some way suspicious. And that person who had a last minute bandwagon against them turns out innocent.

Or in this case...There was Eonwe and Elf-warrior, of those two I would vote for Elf-warrior, but I would prefer to vote Nerwen. If Nerwen's not here to defend herself, a last minute bandwagon against Nerwen might turn out horribly. But, also in this case Nerwen is here, and she has yet to say anything to make me not vote for her.

[satansaloser2005]

Okie dokie. I don't feel terribly analysizational (Sixth'd have a field day with that one....heh) at the moment, but I'll give it a shot. Quick glance at everyone (and I mean quick.) They're in post order at the moment (as in the person with the most posts is first, etc.) I'll probably make a suspicion list later, but for now it'll do.


Nerwen: The thing that bothers me most about Nerwen? The number of her posts. [rabbit trail] We all know I'm a loud mouth, even when I'm sick/busy/etc. And, at least in my experience, Nerwen's been quiet, or at least not a rabid multi-poster. [/rabbit trail] So....why is she talking so much? Just to be fun and in-character? Maybe. But it bothers me that she's saying so much (or so little, as some others have suggested) when she's usually not quite this vocal.
I'd give her 4-6/10 on the suspicion scale, off the top of my head.

Eon: Again, in the last game he was very quiet. But wasn't the last game his first? (Or am I thinking of someone else?) If I'm right about that, I'm going to ignore his change in talking level. If I'm wrong, ignore this section of the post completely. On another level, people (okay, Form, etc.) have accused him of being unhelpful. I'm not saying I agree or not, but I think just because he's not terribly "useful" means that he's evil, and if you decide to kill him for not being super-hacker-catcher, I'll have something to say about it. Namely, "why are you so eager to find reasons to kill off innocents?"
I'd give him a 3-4/10 at the moment, although I'll look at everything a bit more over the Night and give you a better picture then.

Agan: Oh, no, not this girl again. She just won't leave me alone! ;)
[quick insert to say HA as my internet about ate my post and failed]
Anyway, I think she's okay at the moment. She's been her normal self, ish, and I just don't think we should kill her. At least, not at the moment.
I'd give her a 3-4/10.

Nilp: I've only played with him once, but he doesn't seem to be in wolf mode. I apologize in advance if I'm mistaken, but for now I think he's okay.
I'd give him a 1-2/10 on the scale, and he'll probably stay there unless he does something....well, Nilpish.

Eomer: Erm, I'm kind of confused here, what with (in the last game) he and Cailin playing back and forth. Not that I have a problem with, but it means that I don't know what was him and what was Cailin. I'll get something more about him toMorrow, but I just noticed the time so I need to move on. Sorry.
Withholding a rank right now, although he strikes me as a bit off.

Noggie: Isn't he louder? That alone makes me nervous. I remember what a genius he was in Legate's game, and I just find it odd that he would be ordo/gifted and be so quiet. That and I'm not about to be fooled by him like I was last time.
I'm rating him about 6-7/10, just to be on the safe side.

Form: Quite frankly, I don't like the way he's doing things. (Of course, that's not to say that....oh, you get the point....) The first post I saw of his toDay was long and drawn out, statistical and accurate, but "utterly deceptive twaddlespeak, says I". There's a fine line between wanting to be overly helpful and wanting to look helpful so no one will kill you off. Or does he always play like this? I've never played with him before, but at the moment it looks fuzzy as an overripe peach pie....even cobbler? ;) (sorry, couldn't resist the joke....means nothing)
I'll give him a 5-7/10 as well.

Mith: Now, she did jump on me quite quickly, but after I reviewed posts I can see why.
Not that it matters, but I made quite the typo yesterDay. I looked and I had x'd since Ka's [B]61, not 71. Take it for what you will, but I feel quite stupid, honestly. [/bunny trail]
Other than that, i think she's pretty level headed and I'd like to keep her around. She (and others) really seem to want to get rid of EW....conspiracy? She's given me a few things that don't sit right, but overall....
I'd give her....meh, a 3-5/10 to be safe.

Shoot. The time. Sorry, stopping here for now just so I can catch up. (I've been refreshing, but not really reading because I'm obviously a bit rushed.)

X'd since I don't know when. I know it was past Form's vote though, if that helps.

[satansaloser2005]

Well, drat. I'm not terribly keen on lynching either. But as you've seen, I'm against Agan and Eon (being lynched, that is.) If we want to kill Eon, fine, but come up with a better reason than "he's not helpful."

I need to think about it for a bit. Give me like three minutes to catch up (again, you rabid posters you ;)) and I'll come back and make up my mind.

[Nogrod]

Gah... running out of time.

We need to check Kit toMorrow. As well as Mith. And I'll promise to read Nerwen properly.

Looking at the tally it seems it will be either Elf-W or Eonwe toDay.

EDIT: No novels ten minutes before the deadline Sally! Please!

[Aganzir]

And, at least in my experience, Nerwen's been quiet, or at least not a rabid multi-poster
Actually, she usually is a loudmouth.

But wasn't the last game his first?
Yes.

[Nerwen]

Time's running out, so–

++The Elf-Warrior.

[satansaloser2005]

Of the three....

++Elf-Warrior


I don't know if I like it though....hopefully I'm right.




P.S. Sorry about not being here sooner with my posts. Church, road trip, and then I had internet problems of sorts. Feel free to skip my long post until toMorrow if it gives you a headache.

[Nerwen]

People who haven't voted yet– you've only got a few minutes left.

EDIT: x'd with Sally. I believe the EW is no more?

[satansaloser2005]

Actually, she [Nerwen] usually is a loudmouth.


Really? Well, then again, two games we've been in one of us died the first Night, so makes sense that I wouldn't have paid attention.



Originally Posted by sally
But wasn't the last game his first?

Yes.

Thanks. I thought so, but wasn't sure.

[Nogrod]

Hard to judge indeed.

Both have played a bit too risky to be wolves but perhaps Eönwë more so. Although his outstanding activity might tell he's having a lupine role and he wishes to play a lot...

[Boromir88]

++Elf-warrior

Nerwen, I'm going to be gunning for you tomorrow.

[Eönwë]

But wasn't the last game his first?
Yes.

Aganzir speaks the truth.

edit: x-ed since Nerwen's #236

[Aganzir]

Well not that it really matters anymore

++EW

[Nogrod]

Okay. That's it then.

++ Kitanna

On principle as it doesn't matter any more.

[Nerwen]

Actually, she usually is a loudmouth.

I prefer "loquacious" myself.

[Aganzir]

I prefer "loquacious" myself.
It's not a part of my vocabulary. :p

[Brinniel]

Deadline. Silence everyone!

The Elf-Warrior has been lynched. Narration will come...

[Eönwë]

I prefer "loquacious" myself.

Are you sure you're not also "pugnacious"

edit: oooops!

[satansaloser2005]

It's not a part of my vocabulary. :p


Not in hers either. She picked it up in....*GASP*....Harry Potter!


(Kidding, kidding. I love the word loquacious, by the way. :))



EDIT: X'd with Eon and the Modgoddess. Please don't smite me oh ye of fantastic narration *bows*

[Brinniel]

The second day was almost as messy as the first. Accusations were flung left and right. It seemed there weren’t any BDers that were not under scrutiny.
Formendacil complained that no wolf kill made it even more difficult for analyzing, while Sally retorted, “How could you?! Give the ranger some credit, for gosh sake!”

Finally two lynching candidates were brought forward: Eönwë and The Elf-Warrior.
“Alright, so everyone has to vote for either Eönwë or Elf-Warrior,” Rikae announced.
“Wait,” Boromir interjected. “Why should we only have two candidates? Can’t we start a third bandwagon against Nerwen?”
“No,” Nerwen quickly replied.
“Okay fine,” Boromir grumbled.
“Let’s vote already,” stated Nilpaurion. “Raise your hand if you want to lynch Eönwë.” Four raised their hands. “Okay…and raise your hand if you want to kill Elf-Warrior.” Nine raised their hands.
“Hold on…not everyone voted,” Shasta noticed. “Who do you want to lynch, Kitanna and Nogrod?”
“Aganzir,” said Kitanna.
“Kitanna,” said Nogod.
“Well you two didn’t vote for the finalists, so I say they don’t count!” commented Aganzir. “What about you, Kath?”
Kath hesitated. “Umm….I’d rather not vote?”
“That leaves only one non-voter,” observed Sally. “Where’s Durelin?” But Durelin had never emerged from her tent. The BDers could still hear her snoring, rather loudly.
“No matter,” Eönwë said. “Elf-Warrior still got more than twice the amount of votes than me. I say we kill him now!”
“But wait…” Ka spoke up. “Remember our mistake yesterday? What if Elf-Warrior is not a hacker?”
“I have an idea,” said Mithalwen. “Let’s tie him up and dump him in the lake. And if he floats…well then, that must mean he’s a hacker and we can kill him.”
“Yeah,” agreed Formendacil. “That does make sense.”

The other BDers had to agree that Mithalwen’s idea was quite a logical one. So they tied Elf-Warrior up and carried him to the docks of the lake where they dropped him. The Elf-Warrior fell with a big splash, then disappeared. The BDers waited 1…2…3 minutes. After a full five minutes, the Elf-Warrior still had not emerged.

“Well, I guess he wasn’t a hacker after all,” spoke Eomer.

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The Living:

Nilpaurion Felagund~Ainulindalë Addict
Kitanna~the self-righteous know-it-all
Aganzir~non-anonymous neg-repper
Shastanis Althreduin~chatspeak translator
Nerwen~rabid fangirl
Boromir88~the one upper
Kath~artiste
Rikae~the person who tries to fake knowledge of the books and fails miserably
Durelin~Unreliable RPG Addict
Eomer of the Rohirrim~easily-offended trendy
Nogrod~the wanna-be moderator
satansaloser2005~a fan of everything but Tolkien
THE Ka~Artful Dodger
Eönwë~conspiracy theorist
Formendacil~Tolkien Canonist
Mithalwen~therapist

The Dead:

The Barrow-Wight~took up permanent residence in a barrow (mod)
The Sixth Wizard~ grammar Nazi~strung up in a tree (ordo)
McCaber~ does it 4 teh lulz~made the narration much more amusing than it originally was (ordo)
The Elf-Warrior~nitpicker~didn’t know how to float (ordo)

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Night 3 has begun.

Hackers may PM and choose a kill. Gifteds, send me your choices.

[Brinniel]

When the hacker arrived at the usual meeting place, her two companions were already there.
“You’re late,” said the larger one.
“so what im l8te,” she replied. “im hre now so lets strt pl@nning. who r we gonna kil?”
“Look,” the smaller hacker said. “The two of us were talking while waiting, and we’ve decided we would be better off if you were no longer part of the team.”
“What!!!111” the hacker was shocked. “thats stoopid.”
“Not really,” commented the first hacker. “I mean, you can’t even speak proper English. And how are we supposed to work with you when everyone can hardly understand you?”
“so what u gonna do? Kik me ut? Send me paking?”
“Err…not exactly. You see, due to the events of last night, the two of us are more than hungry. So instead of just one, we’d like to have two meals tonight.”
“OMG, what?!!!!” cried out the hacker. “u cant eat me!!!111”
“Sure we can,” her former teammates replied. “Just you watch.”
“Mut1ny!!! Mut1ny!!!” screamed the poor hacker as she backed away.
“Mutiny?” questioned the smaller hacker. “This isn’t mutiny. We don’t even have a designated leader. Do you even know what mutiny means?”
“no. I jst wantd to sund smart.” She continued to wiggle and squirm as the others attempted to grab hold of her.
“Now hold still so we can eat you,” said the larger hacker.
“Nevr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” she cried.
“But don’t you understand? We’re just asking for a simple sacrifice. You wouldn’t want to see your fellow hackers starve, would you?”
“noo…but i wont let u eat me.”
“Not even for….a Legolas poster?”
The young hacker turned up her nose. “i alrdy have 100 of thse.”
“With an authentic autograph by Orlando Bloom?”
“lemme see!!”
The other hackers handed her the poster and she stared at admiringly.
“ZOMG Leggy is soo HAWT!!!111”
“So it’s a deal then?” asked the larger hacker. “Your flesh for the hot Legolas poster?”
“o k.”

So as the fangirl hacker stared at her poster, the other two hackers prepared a stew over the firepit. When the water was boiling, they chopped her into tiny bits and dumped her into a pot. Aside from the occasional mouthfuls of fur, it was one of the best meals they ever had.

Now with only two of them left, it suddenly seemed very lonely.
“Now this just won’t do,” said one hacker. “We should find someone to replace our last mate. And perhaps not eat them this time.”
“Good call,” replied the other. “And I have just the idea on which BDer to turn…”

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When the BDer woke, it was still dark. All that could be seen was blackness. So why had they awoken? Then suddenly…a noise. Before the BDer could move, a sharp pain shot through their arm as teeth sunk into flesh.
“Ow!” the BDer yelped. “Something bit me!”
The bitten BDer scurried for a flashlight and flipped the switch. Expecting to see some wild animal, they instead saw two familiar shapes.
“Hey, what are you guys doing in here?” the BDer wondered. “And what happened to your faces?” A pause. “Wait a minute….you can’t be….the hackers?!”
The BDer grabbed a can of bug spray and held it in front of the two hackers. “Stay back! I have pest repellent and I’m not afraid to use it.”
“No need to worry, friend,” one of the hackers finally spoke. “You’re one of us now.”
“What?”
“You see,” said the other hacker. “We didn’t bite you just for taste. It won’t be long before you’re just as furry as us. There’s no turning back.”
“You mean…I get to be evil now?” The thought of such a thrill made the BDer’s stomach flutter with excitement. Or maybe it was just growling with hunger…
“Yep.”
“So does that mean you’ll teach me how to create viruses?”
“Let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves,” the first hacker replied. “You have to earn that. For now, we just need your help brutally slaughtering innocent campers.”
“I don’t see the harm in that,” said the newly turned hackers. “So who do we get to kill tonight?”

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The next morning the BDers woke to find a large gift wrapped box sitting in the middle of the camp. Nogrod picked it up and read the tag aloud: “Haha stoopid BDrs. Evin dead i can stil mes w/ ur minds. U wil nevr cach teh oders!!!111 ges how mny threr ar now!!!111 p.s. plz send my remans to Orli XOXOXO”
Shasta quickly translated for the puzzled others. Then the BDers opened the box to find it full of bones.
“Well by the chatspeak I’m guessing this must be Nerwen,” Sally observed.
“It makes sense considering how annoying she was with all that bad grammar,” said Mithalwen. “Though I wonder why she’s dead…is this some sort of trick?”
Meanwhile Aganzir raked through the bones. “My my Nerwen, what very large teeth you had,” she held up an abnormally large tooth.
“Hey,” Formendacil spoke up as he counted heads. “Someone else is missing.”

The BDers searched each tent until they came to the very last one. What they saw was what remained of the bloody mess that had once been Kath. Laying beside her was a piece of paper written in blood.
Eomer picked it up. “It’s a poem.”

It read:

Pain surrounds me
As teeth tear into my soft pale flesh
I am exposed
I cannot run.
I cannot hide.
It’s too late for that.
Why can no one hear my screams?
Bloodcurdling, they echo through my tent
But the others, they are all heavy sleepers
Blast them.
Blast them all.
All is cold.
I am fading quickly
As I watch them chew my heart.
Avenge me!
Lynch them!
Curse you werewolves.
Curse. You.

“Aww, poor Kath,” sighed Kitanna.
“Werewolves?” wondered Ka. “You mean, werewolves actually exist?”
“Of course they do,” Durelin replied. “Though…I thought it was hackers we were dealing with.”
“Well it seems our bad guys are much more than hackers,” Boromir stated.
“Oh dear,” muttered Eönwë.
“Looks like we’ve been caught in a real life version of a Werewolf game,” Rikae concluded.

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The Living:

Nilpaurion Felagund~Ainulindalë Addict
Kitanna~the self-righteous know-it-all
Aganzir~non-anonymous neg-repper
Shastanis Althreduin~chatspeak translator
Boromir88~the one upper
Rikae~the person who tries to fake knowledge of the books and fails miserably
Durelin~Unreliable RPG Addict
Eomer of the Rohirrim~easily-offended trendy
Nogrod~the wanna-be moderator
satansaloser2005~a fan of everything but Tolkien
THE Ka~Artful Dodger
Eönwë~conspiracy theorist
Formendacil~Tolkien Canonist
Mithalwen~therapist

The Dead:

The Barrow-Wight~took up permanent residence in a barrow (mod)
The Sixth Wizard~ grammar Nazi~strung up in a tree (ordo)
McCaber~ does it 4 teh lulz~made the narration much more amusing than it originally was (ordo)
The Elf-Warrior~nitpicker~didn’t know how to float (ordo)
Nerwen~ rabid fangirl~willingly traded her life for an autographed Legolas poster (hacker/werewolf)
Kath~artiste~wrote her last poem (ordo)

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Day 3 has begun.

Wolves stop PMing. Everyone be noisy.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Why Kath?! She hadn't even gotten to play yet!