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Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 06:33 AM
Day One.

#99 - After Kath points out that Agan voiced mild suspicion of Boro and tp, [but didn't want to vote for them], Agan (fairly, I think) explains. Then she tries to buddy up to Kath. This makes Kath look quite good to me; not sure if the wolves would interact like that on Day One.

#131 - Defends Boro (innocent).

#148 - Suspects Fea (evil), defends Boro. Suspicion of Lommy and Greenie mixed in there.

#187 - Votes Shasta to save Boro and Nienna (all innocent).

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 06:58 AM
Day Two

#244 - Again puts some suspicion on Fea. Also suspicion on McCaber.

Then some talk with Gaurcrist about using invisible mode. An overly elaborate ruse?

#263 - "Also, her suggestion that phantom & Gaurcrist's clash was wolf-on-wolf was weird." :p Too perfect.

#314 - Big list post.

Guilty: Gwath, Fea, Izzy, Green, Lari, Mira, Sally.
Inocent: Kath, Eomer, Inziladun
Neither: Mith, McCaber, Gaurcrist, Nerwen, Shasta, Boro, phantom.

Votes Izzy.

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So, that list is pretty interesting.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 07:42 AM
Day Three

#383 - Suspects Eomer. Bothered by Inzil and Greenie.

#440 - Connects Eomer and Inziladun. Now this obviously interests me greatly! Makes me feel better about Inzil, if Aganzir was hoping to lynch the both of us.

Votes Izzy.


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Day Four

#547 - Again goes for Inziladun. Says Nerwen and Kath look good.

Now, McCaber votes for Aganzir very early, while there is still discussion about who was lying: Aganzir or Izzy. He is certain we've found a wolf. This is veeery interesting.

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And there we have it.

Inziladun
05-28-2009, 07:43 AM
It's hard for me to tell what to take seriously from Agan. It seems in retrospect that she put quite a bit of effort into throwing off false leads and trails.
I do find her and tp's interactions with Gaurcrist, and the latter's subsequent odd behaviour, quite interesting.

x'd with Eomer

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 07:45 AM
I think Kath and Inziladun are innocent. I'll be having a closer look at Nerwen, McCaber and Larien during the night. Gaurcrist is the other wolf. Phantom's the RB. I could have tp and Gaurcrist switched around but that's not a huge deal at this stage.

If anyone else wants to play that would be great. :p

Inziladun
05-28-2009, 07:51 AM
If anyone else wants to play that would be great. :p

I'm here, even if no one else is. :rolleyes:
Maybe the easy lynch today explains the lack of participation. Day 6 needs to be more lively if we're to have a chance.

Nerwen
05-28-2009, 07:53 AM
anyone else wants to play that would be great. :p

All right, I'm here. I'll get back to you when I've done some reading.

EDIT: fixed quotes; x'd with Zil (have we settled on a nickname for him yet)?

Nerwen
05-28-2009, 07:59 AM
I'm here, even if no one else is. :rolleyes:
Maybe the easy lynch today explains the lack of participation. Day 6 needs to be more lively if we're to have a chance.

Well, the fact that I've got a major assignment due explains my lack of participation... but you're right– once a village has two or three wolves bagged, it can became lazy, with fatal results. I've played in quite a few games where that's happened.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 08:00 AM
Deadline now.

I'll be interested in watching the Hunter shenanigans tomorrow (well, for a little while anyway - cursed weekend away).

wilwarin538
05-28-2009, 08:00 AM
Narration will be up in about 10-15 minutes. Feel free to keep talking until then though. Once it's up, please stop. :)

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 08:05 AM
Also, we need to think about reveals tomorrow. Concerning Hansel und Gretel, if there is a disputed claim then a smart village can work around that. That's why it could be beneficial to get them out in the open. I don't think a villain can successfully reveal as one of these characters.

Think on it, anyway.

Inziladun
05-28-2009, 08:06 AM
EDIT: fixed quotes; x'd with Zil (have we settled on a nickname for him yet)?

I've been waiting for you all to decide. ;)

Nerwen
05-28-2009, 08:21 AM
Also, we need to think about reveals tomorrow. Concerning Hansel und Gretel, if there is a disputed claim then a smart village can work around that. That's why it could be beneficial to get them out in the open. I don't think a villain can successfully reveal as one of these characters.

Think on it, anyway.

I'd be inclined to leave that for later. I mean, there's Gaurcrist and tp in sore need of lynching before we can test any competing reveals. (unless Gaurcrist "reveals" as Hansel or Gretel. I think we could test that claim pretty quickly.;))

But still, it could work– worth considering, anyway.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 08:23 AM
I've had a really good feeling about Nerwen all game actually, though my instincts are notoriously hit or miss. :p

wilwarin538
05-28-2009, 08:23 AM
:eek:

I had it all written....and it was amazing....and then my internet....*poof*

:(

Narration will be up when I stop crying and re-write it....

K, I'm not really crying, but I am in shock....

I suppose you should all stop posting now

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-28-2009, 08:28 AM
I'll stop posting right after I say: I feel your pain. Happened to me a couple of times.

Good night, village.

wilwarin538
05-28-2009, 08:30 AM
Day 5 over.

So, I lost my narration, just *poof* gone. I'm in a rush now to go somewhere and do not have time to even write a simpler version. So I will save this spot and come back on tonight and write it then. Fea is indeed the Ugly Stepsister, as everyone suspected.

Night 6 has officially started. Please stop posting. Keep an eye out for the narration.

wilwarin538
05-28-2009, 08:02 PM
The sun set (http://oneyearbibleimages.com/sun_set.jpg) now on our little village once again. After not that much discussion the villagers began to gather in the town square (http://www.donegalcottageholidays.com/rockytown/buncrana-town-square.jpg). It was pretty obvious that Fea would be the one to be killed today so they began to gang up around her.

"Hold on! I want to tell you all a little story (http://amyletinsky.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/confessionstop-cover.jpg)." Fea said with a flourish of her dress. Even though the sun had not completely set she was beginning to change back to her real self (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UKojywH0M6Q/RmYmaMLOduI/AAAAAAAAAZA/sFSYwdX4Mw0/s400/155_Shrek_The_Third_Larry_King_Doris_(Voice)_SIGNE D_8x10__.jpg). "Once upon a time there was a little girl. She was a beautiful girl who got a lot of attention and received everything she wanted. She had a mother, a beautiful mother, who had lots of money but wanted a little bit of power. The mother decided to marry the king and became very happy, the little girl didn't mind so much either."

Fea was now twirling and dancing around in a very strange manner as the villagers watched in confusing. Her appearance was continually changing (http://bethanyr32.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/cinderella08.jpg). She then began to sway in place and hummed to herself for a time before continuing. "Then one day, when the girl was grown, the beloved king passed away. It was all quite tragic. But the girl's mother still held the throne. The girl's future looked very promising. Then a little problem arose."

She said that last part very sharply, and the villagers eyed her in awe. She now looked exactly like herself (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3039/2997560226_972c274b11.jpg), her amazing red hair flying in all directions as she paced around the small circle they had formed around her. She continued again, her tone now very cruel.

"The king's meddling son could take the thrown away from the queen with the simple words "I do (http://www.ohiolodgingrentals.com/featured_ads/ohio_weddings/images/ohio_wedding.jpg)". All he needed was his one true love." She said this last part quite sarcastically with a wave of her hands. "She wouldn't let that happen of course. That is why I'm here, and my allies. You may be ruining it all for me, taking away my chance to be queen someday, but you will not win. My mother (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GAd7SBh5HXo/R1ytqYIUeAI/AAAAAAAABBY/sIf45YGRIvg/s400/stepmom.jpg) will gain full control and you will all pay for what you have done to me!"

She yelled the last part quite forcefully and began to stomp over to the gallows (http://blog.puppetgov.com/wp-content/2009/01/gallows.jpg). The villagers watched on as Fea marched up the steps and put the noose around her own neck. They all stared.

"Well, what are you fools waiting for? Can we get this over with please?" She demanded, crossing her arms and tapping her foot impatiently. They all looked at each other for a second until someone marched up and quickly pulled the lever.

They all watched for a moment in a state of surprise before returning to their homes. The remaing baddies walked their usual ways to the meeting place, quite dissapointed with their loss. The wielder of the looking glass and the Huntsman walked towards their own homes, each of them with a letter from the other tucked safely in their pockets, dreading what the night would bring them.

The dead:
Nienna - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager
Gwath – defeated Night 4 – Prince Charming
Greenie – chopped up by the Robber Bridegroom middle of Day 4 - Cinderella
Aganzir - eaten by the kitties Day 4 – Rumpelstiltskin
Izzy – strangled Night 5 – Fairy Godmother
Fea - dramatic death scene Day 5 - Ugly Stepsister

The living:
Nerwen - bookmaker
Eomer - gravedigger
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Mira - apothocary
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice
Lari - fortune teller
the phantom - the crazy book liberator

Still Night 6, sorry for the lateness.

wilwarin538
05-29-2009, 07:55 AM
The wielder of the looking glass sat in her small little home.. She sat in front of her magic mirror for what she knew would be the last time. After saying the words she needed to say she received the role of another player, but knew she would not be able to share the information. She sat herself in her favourite chair and waited, preparing herself. Around midnight she could hear rustling outside and she knew what was coming.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

The villagers awoke to another gloomy morning. They slowly dressed and walked towards the town square. Most of them had felt pretty safe that night, for it had been obvious who would go.

After everyone had arrived they all gathered close together and walked towards Mira’s little home. When they got there everything seemed to be in place outside. They opened the door. Everything was in place here as well.

“Where is she?” McCaber asked, looking under the bed.

“Perhaps she got away?” Eomer suggested, peeking inside the cupboards.

“What’s behind this curtain?” Inziladun asked, pointing at a blue velvet curtain on the wall.

The phantom stepped forward and removed it, revealing the beautiful looking glass. At first they were all examining the frame of the mirror, but then they looked at the glass. It reflected all their faces like it should, and the room behind them, but in the mirror there was someone on the bed. They all stepped back and turned around, the bed was clear. They removed the blankets and checked under it, no one was there. They looked again at the mirror and looked closely. It was Mira, lying obviously dead in her bed.

She had been killed and then trapped inside her precious looking glass. The villagers took one final look at the magic mirror before turning and walking back. Eomer stared at it a second longer while putting the shovel back onto his shoulder and putting the curtain back up.

The Huntsman patted his pocket, keeping safe the final letter he had received from Mira the previous day. He felt quite alone as the discussions began.


The dead:
Nienna - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager
Gwath – defeated Night 4 – Prince Charming
Greenie – chopped up by the Robber Bridegroom middle of Day 4 - Cinderella
Aganzir - eaten by the kitties Day 4 – Rumpelstiltskin
Izzy – strangled Night 5 – Fairy Godmother
Fea - dramatic death scene Day 5 - Ugly Stepsister
Mira - trapped through the looking glass Night 6 - Wielder of the looking glass

The living:
Nerwen - bookmaker
Eomer - gravedigger
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice
Lari - fortune teller
the phantom - the crazy book liberator

Day 6 is now. You may discuss.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 08:08 AM
There's a small chance I can keep participating so here's hoping. Don't expect it, though.

I've been re-reading and I'm prepared to argue who I believe is the remaining wolf (I've already said that the other is Gaurcrist or phantom).

But I'll wait for a little while; see if anyone else is awake.

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 08:18 AM
There's a small chance I can keep participating so here's hoping. Don't expect it, though.

I've been re-reading and I'm prepared to argue who I believe is the remaining wolf (I've already said that the other is Gaurcrist or phantom).

But I'll wait for a little while; see if anyone else is awake.

I'm here, but work issues are going to be a factor today. I'll get in as much as I can.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 08:26 AM
And what was that with Mira yesterday? Is the Hunter revealing today, and giving us Seer-info?

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 08:31 AM
And what was that with Mira yesterday? Is the Hunter revealing today, and giving us Seer-info?

I spent a considerable amount of time trying to figure it out. If it was a message for the Hunter, hopefully they'll know what to do with it.

Nerwen
05-29-2009, 08:47 AM
Hello, I'm here.

And what was that with Mira yesterday? Is the Hunter revealing today, and giving us Seer-info?

What Seer-info?

All I can think of is that perhaps Mira really dreamed of a still-living player instead of Boro.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 08:57 AM
Actually, I see now they can communicate only during the day. Scratch that. No more info.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 09:28 AM
Ack, well, almost definitely no internet for me until Tuesday. I'm thinking it would be most beneficial for me to tell you what I know and leave you to it?

Or is the urge to reveal clouding my judgment? :p

McCaber
05-29-2009, 09:31 AM
Well, I'm here for now. I won't have a lot of time later toDay, though. An old friend is rolling back into town.

So right now the score is at two wolves to one Hunter. And the Bridegroom is still on the loose.

Eomer, any information you can give us is going to be helpful. I vote to hear it.

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 09:34 AM
Ack, well, almost definitely no internet for me until Tuesday. I'm thinking it would be most beneficial for me to tell you what I know and leave you to it?

Or is the urge to reveal clouding my judgment? :p

My thought is that if you are going to be out of pocket that long it would likely do more harm than good to keep what you know to yourself at this point. Your own judgement is best though, as you know what's in your head better than we.

edit- x'd with McCaber

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 09:37 AM
Hehe, sorry McCaber, but my guess is that you're the wolf. ;)

#208 - you assert that the wolves probably just want to cause confusion by killing Lommy. Minor point but I never like this comment.

#280 - more substantially, McCaber suspects Aganzir and Fea here, and is still certain of Boromir's innocence.

#565 - this is what really gets me. He is convinced by Aganzir's guilt at a time when I was still torn between who to believe: Aganzir or Izzy.

And that's why I think you're the other wolf, McCaber: because you seemed to know just too much.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 09:44 AM
Gaurcrist and the phantom - EEEEEVIL!!!

McCaber - sly evil.

Rest: innocent.

Me: Hansel. There are a couple of barely-visible hints in my posts.

Gaan yersel, villagers - gaaan! :D (That was dialect, not a hint or code - it amuses me, that's all.)

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 09:45 AM
Hehe, sorry McCaber, but my guess is that you're the wolf. ;)
#565 - this is what really gets me. He is convinced by Aganzir's guilt at a time when I was still torn between who to believe: Aganzir or Izzy.

Hmm. At the time I too was a bit taken aback by this, as I couldn't figure out why Agan (though undoubtedly deserving of suspicion) suddenly was brought into the forefront as the favorite lynch candidate when so much about Izzy had not been addressed.

edit- x'd with Eomer- and a Hansel reveal!

Nerwen
05-29-2009, 09:51 AM
#565 - this is what really gets me. He is convinced by Aganzir's guilt at a time when I was still torn between who to believe: Aganzir or Izzy.

You may well be right, Eomer – but I can't remember at what point he said that.
Aganzir did pretty much give herself away eventually that Day. (I'll check the context.)

As for the question of revealing– can I just assume my Captain Obvious guise and point out that we don't have a Ranger anymore?

EDIT: X'd with Eomer and Inzi.

Nerwen
05-29-2009, 10:02 AM
Well, well. Out of curiosity, who did you use your powers on each Day?

Lariren Shadow
05-29-2009, 10:18 AM
I'm here and packing up my room, but I am wondering what that was about the Hunter and the Seer being together. I do wonder what was told to the Hunter.

Now to believe Eomer's reveal is the question, but since it seems like he really needs to leave then its probably legitimate.

Nerwen
05-29-2009, 10:38 AM
Now to believe Eomer's reveal is the question, but since it seems like he really needs to leave then its probably legitimate.

Well, if Eomer provides a list of who he... er... hanselled each Day, we can see if it adds up.

I personally am fairly sure he's telling the truth– but then I was wrong about Fea.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 11:32 AM
Well, I took away Lari's vote for phantom first day: wasn't fussed about which one of the top suspects died (couldn't choose between them, really). Second day it was Gwath's vote for Boromir I took away - that was a crazy and hectic end where I kept switching back and forth on Mithalwen.

Next two days were obviously meaningless.

I know there's no Ranger; I'm also not certain the wolves will kill me (in order to try and make the village think I'm up to no good). But I think it's early enough to reveal. ie. if there's a competing claim today then fine: the village has caught the wolf (either me or my challenger).

But as yoú'll see, no-one other than tp or Gaurcrist will claim this because it completely gives them away.

So I think I can objectively say you can trust me. ;)

McCaber
05-29-2009, 11:38 AM
So I am a wolf now, eh? Let me try and allay some fears here before we go jumping to conclusions.

My early vote for Agan was because my prior suspicions of her matched up with a seer claim, and I figured that lynching her was the best way to test the truth of it.

I believed Boro because he was dropping gifted hints and I wanted to see how that played out. Sadly, I completely missed Mith's hints of the same.

As for Lommy's reason for dying, that was one I just dropped the ball on. I was thinking and I forgot that other people were. Thinking, that is.

In other news, I still have no idea what tp is trying to accomplish. He's either the most brazen wolf I've seen in a long time or the Bridegroom trying to attract attention away from the real villains.

Eomer of the Rohirrim
05-29-2009, 11:58 AM
Perhaps we should lynch phantom: it's possible that Gaurcrist is just an innocent bringing his own brand of craziness to the show, but phantom is definitey awry.

++THE PHANTOM

Die, fiend, die!

Wel, I've given you my thoughts. It's in your hands now, villagers. :)

the phantom
05-29-2009, 12:45 PM
And what was that with Mira yesterday? Is the Hunter revealing today, and giving us Seer-info?
Come on, now. Don't you know?

Mira didn't want to reveal the Hunter for it would ruin his chances of being Night-killed and taking out a Wolf. Not to mention the fact that it would tell the Wolves clearly who to kill the following Night. If the Hunter could but survive today, he could then reveal tomorrow (if he wants) when the odds of hitting a Wolf are improved.

Anyway, as far as your Hansel power, you ought to just make your best guess at a Wolf and then Gretel can give you extra vote power. But what about her? Should she reveal as well today? It's not as if the baddies can kill both of you in one night. If one of you is going to reveal, both of you might as well.

the phantom
05-29-2009, 12:53 PM
In other news, I still have no idea what tp is trying to accomplish. He's either the most brazen wolf I've seen in a long time or the Bridegroom trying to attract attention away from the real villains.
Perhaps we should lynch phantom: it's possible that Gaurcrist is just an innocent bringing his own brand of craziness to the show, but phantom is definitey awry.

++THE PHANTOM

Die, fiend, die!
So the thought has never occurred to either of you that I'm the fourth Ordo (or LRC) attempting to look clearly like a baddie in order to increase the odds that the real Robber Bridegroom will get killed during the Night, or the Hunter. And also so I won't be selected to be turned by the Big Bad Wolf (just in case I'm Red-Cap).

Anyway, the ploy is sort of ruined now, but as I look to be on my way to lynching, I figured I'd better say something at this point. I thought looking like the RB would buy me a lynching pass, but apparently my bluff was so convincing that you're worried I may be a bluffing Wolf.

As far as Mira's code, I maybe figured it out, and so maybe know who the Hunter is. We'll see if I'm right. (when I gave it a try last Night, I actually thought it was you, Eomer :rolleyes: )

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 02:32 PM
So the thought has never occurred to either of you that I'm the fourth and final Ordo attempting to look clearly like a baddie in order to increase the odds that the real Robber Bridegroom will get killed during the Night, or the Hunter. And also so I won't be selected to be turned by the Big Bad Wolf (just in case I'm Red-Cap).

You're a vexing Phantom, you are. I've been trying to figure you over the course of the game, with little success.
If looking suspicious has been your intent, you may have succeeded too well.
I need to go back and look at some things.

the phantom
05-29-2009, 03:01 PM
You're a vexing Phantom, you are. I've been trying to figure you over the course of the game, with little success.
If looking suspicious has been your intent, you may have succeeded too well.
Heh heh...

All right, let's see if I can appeal to your logic since I am sort of difficult to gain a gut feeling on.

Look at when I "revealed" as a baddie. It was when both the Seer and Ranger were still alive, and two Wolves were outed. At that point in the proceedings, would it make sense for a third Wolf to reveal, considering two have been caught already and the Seer still has another dream to use before she dies?

The Robber Bridegroom might well try it, but it is very doubtful that it would be intelligent for a member of the evil foursome to come out at that time. It's downright suicidal. While everyone who has played with me will tell you that it is a trademark of mine to bluff and play mind games, they would also testify to the fact that Phantom always does his best to avoid silly risks and plays the odds. While my behaviors may seem silly at times, I am at my core logical and every move of mine is intended to have pros which outweight any cons.

So there it is. If I'm bad, I'm at worst the Robber Bridegroom, in which case I count for the villagers in the tally and lynching me isn't overly helpful. The point is to lynch the packmates here.

Lariren Shadow
05-29-2009, 04:44 PM
Does it even matter if the Robber Bridegroom revels? I mean, if we get the last wolf then we will be able to win even if he is still alive. He did his job, there's nothing we can do to stop him other than lynch him and that's pointless as he counts as one of the villagers(I do have that right, right?).

I'm not sure about lynching the phantom. He makes a lot of sense at times and can be very helpful when he wants to be. I wouldn't want him dead, not especially this close to the end because he might be able to find something we can't.

I'm leaning to believe Eomer about his revel.

I have no idea really about anyone else other than I still don't like Nerwen.

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 07:03 PM
I'm not sure about lynching the phantom. He makes a lot of sense at times and can be very helpful when he wants to be. I wouldn't want him dead, not especially this close to the end because he might be able to find something we can't.

That's what's so annoying about the situation. He goes from sounding evil and scheming to sounding logical and forthright in the blink of an eye. Like this:


Look at when I "revealed" as a baddie. It was when both the Seer and Ranger were still alive, and two Wolves were outed. At that point in the proceedings, would it make sense for a third Wolf to reveal, considering two have been caught already and the Seer still has another dream to use before she dies?

That's a fair point, I must admit.
I want to think about McCaber some more, as well as Kath and Nerwen.
I'd also like to hear from the two who have yet to check in today.

Nerwen
05-29-2009, 09:12 PM
Anyone around?

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 09:16 PM
I am, though it's maddening trying to decide whether to believe phantom's latest. I ought to vote for him just on general principles, yet I have some misgivings.
Eomer is apparently convinced McCaber is a wolf. Not sure what I think about that either.

Nerwen
05-29-2009, 09:19 PM
I've got some things to say about tp.

Just a moment.

the phantom
05-29-2009, 09:21 PM
By the way, wouldn't everyone agree that it would increase voting odds and Hunter pick odds if Gretel also were to reveal as soon as possible?

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 09:29 PM
By the way, wouldn't everyone agree that it would increase voting odds and Hunter pick odds if Gretel also were to reveal as soon as possible?

As I see it, it might also narrow the field enough for the Hunter to be easily picked off during the Night, with a decent chance still of missing a wolf. It might be advisable to hold off another day, when the choices have narrowed a bit. Could be a calculated risk though.
But then again what do I know? :rolleyes:

Inziladun
05-29-2009, 09:59 PM
I was trying to stay up for a bit and see what else might come up here, but it looks as if I'm fighting a losing battle.
Still nothing from Kath or Gaurcrist it appears. Should Gaur be lynched? He's been a distraction from the get go, whether intentionally or not, and there's always the chance he just might be a baddie.
Just a thought for everyone to chew over.
I see no reason why I shouldn't be back in time for the vote.
Good Night!

the phantom
05-29-2009, 10:00 PM
As I see it, it might also narrow the field enough for the Hunter to be easily picked off during the Night, with a decent chance still of missing a wolf. It might be advisable to hold off another day, when the choices have narrowed a bit. Could be a calculated risk though.
But do we want to risk the chance that we'll vote for Gretel and kill her?

Or what happens if we vote for her, she reveals to save herself, then we recast our votes for someone else and whoops, it's the Hunter! Or it could happen the other way around of course. The fact is, last minute reveals to save your skin can often lead to bad things. We saw what happened when Izzy revealed at the last moment. If she would've come out hours before and said, "I'm the Ranger and I know for a fact Fea is a baddie" we never would've had any of that mess.

Not only does Gretel help us vote today, and help the Hunter choose tonight, but Hansel can be sure to not use his power on her and take her vote away. Don't forget about the votes, people. Hansel and Gretel can add/subtract votes, and the more people we have revealed the better their chances of doing some good with their powers.

And you really think the baddies will take a blind shot at the Hunter with Hansel and Gretel revealed? No, no- their voting power along with their clear innocence is far too great for the baddies to risk leaving them alive on a chance they may hit the Hunter, especially seeing as a successful Hunter pick might lead to them dying as well.

In addition, waiting until tomorrow might allow one of the baddies time to set up a reveal of their own.

And don't forget this point- what if we're well on our way towards lynching a baddie today, and then they say, "No, I'm Gretel" near the deadline and we believe them and spare them? If Gretel would go ahead and step out now then the Baddies would have absolutely NO roles to hide behind. We know Hansel, we would know Gretel, and it's not viable to reveal as the Hunter, for the real Hunter can just challenge the claim and knows exactly who to hunt then AND more likely than that has some way to prove who they are (judging by Mira's talk of a coded message).

Anyway.... that's what I think.

the phantom
05-29-2009, 10:12 PM
I've got some things to say about tp.

Just a moment.
It's been an hour. Let's have it. What's your angle on me.

Nerwen
05-29-2009, 10:19 PM
Look at when I "revealed" as a baddie. It was when both the Seer and Ranger were still alive, and two Wolves were outed. At that point in the proceedings, would it make sense for a third Wolf to reveal, considering two have been caught already and the Seer still has another dream to use before she dies?

The Robber Bridegroom might well try it, but it is very doubtful that it would be intelligent for a member of the evil foursome to come out at that time. It's downright suicidal.

The situation was this: Mira had revealed as the Seer and denounced Agan and Fea. Then Fea counter-revealed and accused you, tp, of being the Robber Bridegroom.

So your reveal supported her claim. Now, it does have a somewhat jokey, ambiguous tone to it... so yes, you could have been doing what you say... or you could have been laying ground for a retraction. Anyway, if you're innocent, you knew she was lying, so it was a dangerous stunt to pull in those circumstances– not just for you, but for the village.

To be fair, if you're the Robber Bridegroom, there's the unresolved question of how you knew which "Seer" was false (and thus the one to support)... I don't know– it may be you were more on the ball than I was, and picked Fea's slip immediately. Or it may be that the RB and wolves have found some way to identify each other– in fact Fea basically said this yesterDay.

Phantom, love of mine, I applaud you for making it so easy for me to find you. If I hadn't screwed it up, it would have made for some nice evidence of my seerhood.

On the other hand, I'm not sure what to make of Fea's parting words. They do read a bit like, "See, everyone! He IS the RB! Really!"

Bringing me to the other point. No, wouldn't have made sense for a third wolf to reveal as a wolf– but you didn't. And there's a perfectly good reason for a wolf to reveal as a cobbler. You said it yourself:

So there it is. If I'm bad, I'm at worst the Robber Bridegroom, in which case I count for the villagers in the tally and lynching me isn't overly helpful. The point is to lynch the packmates here.

So... I don't know what you are, phantom, but here are the odds I'm offering toDay:

Robber Bridegroom (2-1)
Wolf (2-1)
Innocent (50-1)


Finally, what's this mean–?

So the thought has never occurred to either of you that I'm the fourth and final Ordo

Huh? To the best of my knowledge, there are two ordos (or apparent ordos) left in this village– unless Red Cap has been turned, which isn't public knowledge...

EDIT: X'd since my last post.

Lariren Shadow
05-29-2009, 10:21 PM
Oh fine already. It's not like I've been using my power well anyway...I'm Gretel.

First Day I double Mira, the second Kath, the third the phantom, the fourth Mira again, and didn't do it at all yesterDay.

If people are wondering how I chose: simple I was going to see Mira on Day 1 so I decided to double her vote. Same with Kath because, well, I had nothing really better to go on. Third was the phantom because he seemed to be making sense and then the fourth when Mira revealed I figured why not make sure with her vote. And yesterDay I couldn't double the vote of Izzy because that's who I was going to do and I couldn't double Mira and it felt a waste because we all knew that Fea was going to die anyway.

the phantom
05-29-2009, 10:37 PM
To be fair, if you're the Robber Bridegroom, there's the unresolved question of how you knew which "Seer" was false (and thus the one to support)... I don't know– it may be you were more on the ball than I was, and picked Fea's slip immediately.
Precisely.
Huh? To the best of my knowledge, there are two ordos (or apparent ordos) left in this village– unless Red Cap has been turned, which isn't public knowledge...
I corrected that mistake 40 minutes ago. I miscounted, due to the fact that LRC is listed in a different place on the role list. So in fact there are two people left who are Ordos or who at least think they are Ordos.

But if that was the very last thing you wrote in your post (it would appear so from the wording, "Finally, what's...."), and I corrected the statement 30 minutes before you posted, why did it take you so long to hit "submit" since you obviously copied and pasted the final quote in your post 30 minutes before you posted? Makes me suspect you've been thinking and pondering and plotting about something or other regarding your wording. Why? I'm tempted to think you are actually starting to believe I'm innocent after all, but since I'm no longer your faithful RB you are wanting to spin things the other direction.

the phantom
05-29-2009, 10:40 PM
Thank you, Lari. If no one steps up to challenge then we have two known innocents to rally around.

McCaber
05-30-2009, 12:42 AM
phantom, of course it occurred to me that you were an innocent trying to flush out a wolf. But your reveal looked much too scripted to pick it up at face value. So I decided to play it like I saw it, and if you were indeed an innocent hopefully my doubt would cause a wolf to think twice.

I should be back well before DL, so I'm not too worried about it. My thoughts run to Gaurcrist, though. I don't like that singleminded focus when the village needs to consider everyone.

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 12:52 AM
Precisely.

I corrected that mistake 40 minutes ago. I miscounted, due to the fact that LRC is listed in a different place on the role list. So in fact there are two people left who are Ordos or who at least think they are Ordos.

But if that was the very last thing you wrote in your post (it would appear so from the wording, "Finally, what's...."), and I corrected the statement 30 minutes before you posted, why did it take you so long to hit "submit" since you obviously copied and pasted the final quote in your post 30 minutes before you posted?.

The delay was because I was called away to do chores. That's all.

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 12:58 AM
I mean, okay, I should have refreshed before posting.

But even if the "remaining ordo" comment is just a mistake and not a wolf-slip, you haven't answered my other points. And there's your "precisely" comment. Are you saying you are the Robber Bridegroom now?:rolleyes:

the phantom
05-30-2009, 01:37 AM
And there's your "precisely" comment. Are you saying you are the Robber Bridegroom now?
No. That "precisely" meant that you were right about me catching Fea's slip immediately, and thus I knew that she was the false Seer.

Anyway, my fear at this point is that people will show up suddenly and vote and not have time to talk at all.

Let's say hypothetically McCaber is the Hunter, and here in a couple hours when several of us are asleep Kath and Gaurcrist come running in and vote for him, and then they leave. Whoops. With them unloading their votes and leaving, he has no chance to save himself with a reveal, even if he can prove precisely who he is.

So people, seriously, let's not have any of that. Everyone try to be around in the final hour and talk about your leanings and such, so that we can have the best possibility of lynching a baddie. We can't screw this up.

Oh, and Hansel and Gretel, please don't tell us who you used your powers on today. For all we know the Baddies technically have enough voting power to take this game here and now (especially if LRC has been turned), and we don't want to give them the chance to do it. And I would recommend keeping silent on that matter tomorrow as well.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 01:56 AM
Sleepy. Bed.

I'm setting my alarm so I'm up for the final hour. See ya.

Kath
05-30-2009, 05:27 AM
So we potentially have two known innocents. Eomer and Lari.

Which leaves:
Nerwen
McCaber
Gaurcrist
Inzil
phantom

One is the Hunter (good guy), one is potentially Little Red Cap (bad guy if turned, otherwise good), the Big Bad Wolf (bad guy), the Old Witch (bad guy) and the Robber Bridegroom (bad guy but tallies as good).

Hmm, we have 8 people in this village at the moment. Only three known baddies (I'm discounting Red Cap). We have two reveals. Makes it 6-3. If the Hunter revealed it would be 5-3 but obviously that negates their power a bit. I don't know. It just feels like we ought to be able to push this on numbers but my maths isn't strong enough to work it out. I think what I mean is that if the Hunter revealed then (ignoring me) there are 4 people to vote between, with a chance of 3/4 that we'd get a bad guy (either one of the two wolves or the robber bridegroom).

Is this making any sense?

By the way I'm sorry I didn't appear before. I've been trying to think this through for ages and just couldn't make it all come together in my head. Also I will be leaving in half an hour and won't be back before deadline.

Kath
05-30-2009, 05:31 AM
I think my earlier numbers there are completely wrong.

Good guys (by tally) = 6.

Bad guys = 2 (wolves).

Known innocent is 2 (Eomer and Lari) - 6 (unknown).

So if the Hunter revealed it becomes 3 - 5 (unknown).

I'm discounting myself so it becomes 3 (known innocent) - 4 (unknown).

Thus a 3/4 chance of lynching a bad guy and a 1/2 chance of lynching a wolf.

Ah ok I think I just had it back to front before. This seems to make more sense.

Kath
05-30-2009, 05:50 AM
Now as to what I think of those five:

Nerwen: I was actually under the impression that she had been confirmed innocent at some point. This worries me slightly if only because my brain is clearly not working. Either she has just come across as very innocent because she is or her fellow wolves have done a very good job of staying away from her.

Gaurcrist: I really don't know what to make of this one. There is little to be gained from his posts because they're few, far between and when they are there there isn't a whole lot of substance. Could potentially be the Cobbler. A newbie but if his role said 'sow confusion and gain attention' that's what he's done.

phantom: Yeah, I'm not even going to try to guess! We should lynch him to be on the safe side. :rolleyes:

McCaber: Eomer's 'case' against him was pretty weak but he is one that has been under my radar since the beginning. In a 'I'm aware he's playing but couldn't tell you what he's said' kind of way. Given our known wolves have so far been Fea and Agan, if he was a wolf this wouldn't be surprising. Those two are such loudmouths it would be hard to compete.

Inzil: I have a bad feeling about this one. I didn't like his early reasoning for suspicions. He has seemed to become very savvy about the game quite quickly since the first couple of Days. Have we seen any clues in the narration that Red Cap has been turned because if they have I think it could well be Inzil.

So I think I'd be tempted to leave Nerwen and phantom alone and vote for one of the other three. I only see Gaurcrist as Cobbler rather than wolf and Inzil I suppose I have more of a 'case' for.

I'm going in ten minutes so I'll hold off on voting til then in case anyone else is around.

Kath
05-30-2009, 06:06 AM
Well, got to go.

++INZIL

the phantom
05-30-2009, 06:50 AM
The voting to this point-
Eomer for tp (1)
Kath for Inzil (1)

Anyone else around?

And has anyone besides Gaurcrist missed a vote before? If so you are in danger of Modfire, and that would be a silly way to lose this thing.

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 07:21 AM
I'm around, I just have nothing much to say. Besides the phantom and Nerwen most of those who are left have been quiet, making it difficult to find really anything.

I've gone though posts and come up with very little about people in general. Even with knowing that Eomer is Hansel there is not much to go on.

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 07:24 AM
And has anyone besides Gaurcrist missed a vote before? If so you are in danger of Modfire, and that would be a silly way to lose this thing.

I think modfire is only if you miss two consecutive Days.

Anyway, phantom, just so you know, I am most likely going to vote for you or Gaurcrist as being the two most suspicious people. (Surprising, no?)

If you'd like to try a bit harder at convincing me you're innocent, be my guest.

Then there's the other three– among whom at least one villain must be hiding... and I barely have a clue about any of them.

McCaber – I don't find Eomer's case on him to be exactly overwhelming... but he's giving me bad vibes.
Inziladun. – Has managed to slip through the whole game without anyone taking much notice of him. Tends to just follow others' suspicions. Cautious newbie feeling his way... or something more?
Kath. – *shrugs* She's hardly played.

EDIT:X'd with Lari.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:33 AM
If you'd like to try a bit harder at convincing me you're innocent, be my guest.
It's all very simple. Fea revealed as a false Seer. I noticed her Ranger-slip and so knew she was not genuine. I immediately buddied up to her and Agan and tried to become in everyone's mind a clear RB so as to increase the RB's chances of being Night-killed late in the game and decrease my chances of being picked as LRC. Either you believe it or you don't, but logic would certainly support my claim.

wilwarin538
05-30-2009, 07:40 AM
I think modfire is only if you miss two consecutive Days.



Indeed.

20 minutes.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:40 AM
Nerwen is the person I'm most confident is not the Hunter, so I'm inclined to gamble in her direction. However, since she's still holding her vote, I'm worried that I may need to compromise on a candidate to keep myself from being lynched.

Meh.... Gaurcrist seems like too obvious a vote. Inzil could be guilty but he's been reasonable, so I'm tempted to keep him alive. I liked McCaber early on but I haven't heard much from him lately. Fading into the shadows...

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 07:43 AM
It's all very simple. Fea revealed as a false Seer. I noticed her Ranger-slip and so knew she was not genuine. I immediately buddied up to her and Agan and tried to become in everyone's mind a clear RB so as to increase the RB's chances of being Night-killed late in the game and decrease my chances of being picked as LRC. Either you believe it or you don't, but logic would certainly support my claim.

Okay... it could be as you say– could just as easily be one of my scenarios, so I'm not willing to trust you.

However, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment–

++Gaurcrist.

EDIT:X'd with the phantom and mod.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:43 AM
Inzil, McCaber- are you two around?

Inziladun
05-30-2009, 07:48 AM
Overslept, here and quickly reading.

Well, got to go.

++INZIL

My first vote! I feel important now. :rolleyes:

McCaber
05-30-2009, 07:48 AM
I'm here. Are you planning anything special?

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:49 AM
Hello, people, there's only about 10 minutes left!!

McCaber, Inzil, and Lari- what are your leanings?

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 07:50 AM
So that leaves it at one all for tp, Inzil, and Gaur.

And ten minutes to go people.

...and yes I'm including myself in that.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:50 AM
I'm here. Are you planning anything special?
Well, I wouldn't mind lynching Nerwen if I can get everyone to help.

If not, then I'll settle for anything else besides me being lynched.

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 07:51 AM
Hello, people, there's only about 10 minutes left!!

McCaber, Inzil, and Lari- what are your leanings?

I personally still don't like Nerwen, but my opinions of her got better.

Other than that, I feel like I'm going to be taking a shot in the dark anyway I vote.

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 07:52 AM
Well, I wouldn't mind lynching Nerwen if I can get everyone to help.

Apparently we think alike. At least on that.

McCaber
05-30-2009, 07:52 AM
I'm still leaning Gaurcrist, but I could go with Nerwen even though she's not my top choice.

Inzil has been reasonable and helpful the whole game. I like him for now.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:53 AM
About Gaurcrist- he's been voting for me no matter what.

When I was good, he voted me. When I was the RB, he voted me. Now surely a Wolf wouldn't try and vote for his own RB? Or since lynching Fea was a given anyway he decided it wouldn't hurt?

I dunno.... I just think Gaurcrist is probably nothing special, or the RB at worst. I think voting for him is just plain too easy. Though if he's a Wolf I'll be ticked. Also be ticked if he's the Hunter, but I kind of doubt that.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:55 AM
++Nerwen

(and the final two wolves are probably Inzil and McCaber :rolleyes:)

McCaber
05-30-2009, 07:55 AM
Well then, if we're all in favor

++Nerwen

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 07:55 AM
I have no idea what to think of Gaurcrist other than he seems to have a personal vedetta(yes I know that's not spelled right) against tp.

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 07:56 AM
Can I ask why you all three are suddenly talking about lynching me?

Where did that come from?

Oh, you have lynched me.

Fine.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 07:56 AM
So, Nerwen, are we making a huge mistake?

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 07:58 AM
I haven't liked the feeling I've been getting from you most of the game, see my longer post a few days ago. Where I only thought that the guilty ones were you, Fea, and Agan and I can't even remember if that was before or after Mira revealed.

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 07:58 AM
Yes.

EDIT:X'd with Lari.

Inziladun
05-30-2009, 07:58 AM
McCaber, Inzil, and Lari- what are your leanings?

Kath apparently has it in for me at the moment, thinking I'm LRC.

Voting Gaurcrist does seem too obvious, but he hasn't been here at all this Day, and he's an obvious distraction for the good side.

Phantom, I don't know why, but your sudden bout of being reasonable gives me a worse feeling than I had before.
It's my fault I don't have as much time to double check everything as I intended

++Phantom

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 07:59 AM
Yes.

EDIT:X'd with Lari.

What then?

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 07:59 AM
++phantom

the phantom
05-30-2009, 08:00 AM
I'm the Hunter. If you take two of Mira's posts she starts with three words whose first letters are U-T-R and mine following hers begin with words H-N-E. That's the code. I'm the real Hunter. Look it up.

Lariren Shadow
05-30-2009, 08:00 AM
++Nerwen

the phantom
05-30-2009, 08:01 AM
Save me! Save me now!!

--Nerwen

++Nerwen

wilwarin538
05-30-2009, 08:01 AM
It's done. Stop please. Narration soon.

the phantom
05-30-2009, 08:03 AM
By not voting until two minutes left, Inzil, you possibly lost your chance to save me despite me being a revealed innocent. Why hold votes so long, people? Honestly.

wilwarin538
05-30-2009, 08:04 AM
Nerwen's vote for the phantom doesn't count, she did not retract her Gaurcrist vote.

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 08:05 AM
Nerwen's vote for the phantom doesn't count, she did not retract her Gaurcrist vote.

Damn it!

Nerwen
05-30-2009, 08:21 AM
Well, give me a good death scene, please.

wilwarin538
05-30-2009, 08:28 AM
As the sun moved slowly down and down, the villagers began to gather in the center of their town. The day had been full of confusion and reveals, the votes all cast quickly in the very last minutes. After the tally was taken and all was put into consideration the phantom was the one who was going to perish that day.

The villagers gathered around him and began to lead him towards the gallows, a walk they could now probably do blindfolded. When they were but a few feet away the phantom turned around and faced them all.

"You're all making such a big mistake." he said, looking them each in the eye as he spoke. "But I atleast I won't be going down alone."

He walked around the little half circle formed around him until he stopped at the villager he had chosen. Nerwen stared back at him, looking a bit confused.

"You." the phantom said before quickly pulling out a knife and stabbing Nerwen in her side. There was a moment of surprise as everyone watched this, not knowing what to do. Then there was a howl.

Suddenly Nerwen, just a small little thing, began to grow. She got larger, hair appearing everywhere. A canine snout appeared, with large teeth. Large ears sprouted from the top of her head. She was definitely one big bad wolf.

"That hurt." The Big Bad Wolf growled before pouncing at the phantom. The villagers all backed away as the fight grew more and more intense.

The phantom pulled out his trusted axe and swung full force at the giant wolf, who was actually very quick for his large size. The fight drew on for long minutes. But finally the phantom was able to get in the death blow and the Big Bad Wolf was defeated. The villagers rushed over to their hunter to find that he had been wounded.

"Told you guys you were making a mistake." he mumbled, as his eyes began to droop. "How will you all manage without me?"

With those final words he closed his eyes and was gone. Eomer stayed behind as the rest walked back to their homes, all feeling far more vulnerable but glad that the baddies numbers were dwindled.


The dead:
Nienna - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager
Gwath – defeated Night 4 – Prince Charming
Greenie – chopped up by the Robber Bridegroom middle of Day 4 - Cinderella
Aganzir - eaten by the kitties Day 4 – Rumpelstiltskin
Izzy – strangled Night 5 – Fairy Godmother
Fea - dramatic death scene Day 5 - Ugly Stepsister
Mira - trapped through the looking glass Night 6 - Wielder of the looking glass
the phantom - died nobly Day 6 - Huntsman
Nerwen - killed by the Huntsman Day 6 - Big Bad Wolf

The living:
Eomer - gravedigger
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice
Lari - fortune teller

It is now Night 7. No more posting.

Just as a note: the next phase will only be 23 hours long, I have to end it early. So the next Day will start at 9 am EST (instead of 10am like it is now), so back to the old deadline for a while. I'll let you all know if it changes back.

Oh, a little note cause I'm sure people will be confused. I didn't miscount votes, keep Hansel and Gretel in mind.

wilwarin538
05-31-2009, 06:02 AM
(So 2 hours early instead, hope nobody minds, I'll let you know later today when this Day will end. This will not be the best narration ever, I'm in a bit of a rush)

The few remaining villagers awoke and gathered in the town square. It became obvious very quickly that Lari was the one missing today. They gathered close together and walked to her little shop. She lived in a little apartment above her fortune telling shop.

They climbed up the stairs and walked into her little home. After a quick walk through they came to the little kitchen. Lari owned a small old fashioned stove, the kind that required wood inside to heat it up.

The little door was open and it was pretty easy to see that that was where she was. Eomer was not needed today, so they all left together to begin the discussions.

The dead:
Nienna - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager
Gwath – defeated Night 4 – Prince Charming
Greenie – chopped up by the Robber Bridegroom middle of Day 4 - Cinderella
Aganzir - eaten by the kitties Day 4 – Rumpelstiltskin
Izzy – strangled Night 5 – Fairy Godmother
Fea - dramatic death scene Day 5 - Ugly Stepsister
Mira - trapped through the looking glass Night 6 - Wielder of the looking glass
the phantom - died nobly Day 6 - Huntsman
Nerwen - killed by the Huntsman Day 6 - Big Bad Wolf
Lari - burned up Night 7 - Gretel

The living:
Eomer - gravedigger
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Gaurcrist - blacksmith
Kath - restaurant owner
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice

Day 7 starts now. You may discuss.

Kath
05-31-2009, 07:13 AM
What does it mean Eomer was not needed toDay? I do hope you are here Eomer but even if you are I don't know that we can win now. McCaber, Gaurcrist and Inzil must now all be evil and if we lynch the Cobbler rather than a wolf we lose.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 07:47 AM
First things first. Sorry about that, phantom. I feel an explanation of my vote is necessary.
When I signed off on Day 6 to go to bed, I had every intention of being back at least a couple of hours before deadline to read and discuss. Needless to say, it did not work out that way. I woke up about 15 minutes before DL and hurried to read the latest.
I first saw Kath's vote for me, which honestly, didn't appear to me to be any more solid than my earlier vote for her, but oh well.
I also noted Lari had revealed as Gretel.
I read as phantom exhorted eveyone to hurry up and vote. Now, I was still unsure about him, but I was leaning toward giving him a pass for at least one more Day. Then he said this:

Well, I wouldn't mind lynching Nerwen if I can get everyone to help.

If not, then I'll settle for anything else besides me being lynched.

Now that seemed to come out of the blue, as I didn't recall him voicing any serious suspicion of her recently. And what happened next? McCaber immediately latched on. That appeared to be an awfully sudden bandwagon, and that was what pushed me at the last minute to vote phantom.
I saw his claim that Mira had left a clue verifying his Huntsman status, but there was simply no time to verify that before time ran out.
Honestly, I think that even if I had been there discussing for the previous hour and had already voted for someone else, I would have retracted and voted phantom, just because that last minute push for Nerwen seemed wrong. The fact that it turned out justified is irrelevant.
There it is. I'm sorry I helped do away with the phantom, but I didn't do it alone, and I don't see what else I reasonably could have been expected to think under the circumstances.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 08:10 AM
What does it mean Eomer was not needed toDay? I do hope you are here Eomer but even if you are I don't know that we can win now. McCaber, Gaurcrist and Inzil must now all be evil and if we lynch the Cobbler rather than a wolf we lose.

I think Eomer had said he would be away this weekend. It would most helpful if he could make an appearence today. No doubt he will if at all possible.
You are correct in saying the odds are not looking all that good at the moment, but there is still a chance. We simply must make the right decision today.
And everyone's evil but you and Eomer? I feel fairly confident about him; you, not so much.
If Gaurcrist fails to show up today, I believe he'll be modfired.

McCaber
05-31-2009, 12:24 PM
Well since all our talkative players are gone, I might as well say what I think.

Eomer: Is there any doubt over his identity? No other Hansel has come forward yet, so I'm quite inclined to believe him.
Kath: Rather quiet, yet speaks well-thought out things when she appears. Much like myself, I'd say. I can't fault her for that yet.
Inzil: The loudest one of us toDay. Seems
Gaur: What are his plans now that tp's gone and revealed innocent? That seemed to be his whole campaign, but I'm actually interested to see what he has to say now.

McCaber
05-31-2009, 03:22 PM
Ok. Just got back from my brother's graduation.

So about Inzil. I'd say he seems to be on the level. He's made some good points, and nothing obvious about him seems wolvish.
This could be a tough decision toDay.

Why I voted Nerwen: I really had no blatant suspicions of anyone once tp pressed his case and eventually revealed. Nerwen seemed as good a candidate as any then to me, so I decided to trust phantom on that choice. Hopefully we have more time toDay to get stuff done other than in the last five minutes.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 03:37 PM
Well since all our talkative players are gone, I might as well say what I think.

Eomer: Is there any doubt over his identity? No other Hansel has come forward yet, so I'm quite inclined to believe him.
Kath: Rather quiet, yet speaks well-thought out things when she appears. Much like myself, I'd say. I can't fault her for that yet.
Inzil: The loudest one of us toDay. Seems
Gaur: What are his plans now that tp's gone and revealed innocent? That seemed to be his whole campaign, but I'm actually interested to see what he has to say now.

Two posts makes me 'the loudest'? Relatively, I suppose. ;) And what do I 'seem'?
I'm with you in being ready to take Eomer at his word, though it's always possible, I guess, that Gaur is Hansel.

edit-x'd with McCaber

wilwarin538
05-31-2009, 03:39 PM
What does it mean Eomer was not needed toDay? I do hope you are here Eomer but even if you are I don't know that we can win now. McCaber, Gaurcrist and Inzil must now all be evil and if we lynch the Cobbler rather than a wolf we lose.


Well there was no body for him to bury. That's all I meant. Sorry for confusion, wrote that in a rush.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 03:51 PM
Well there was no body for him to bury. That's all I meant. Sorry for confusion, wrote that in a rush.

I misread that myself. Thanks for the clarification.

McCaber
05-31-2009, 04:09 PM
Inzil, by loudest I meant most posts across the game and able to post toDay. Says a lot about us, right? Anyway, sorry about the confusion.

And if Gaur comes back claiming to be Hansel, that could be the gamechanger. I highly doubt it, but it would set back my thinking quite a bit.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 04:16 PM
Inzil, by loudest I meant most posts across the game and able to post toDay. Says a lot about us, right? Anyway, sorry about the confusion.

And if Gaur comes back claiming to be Hansel, that could be the gamechanger. I highly doubt it, but it would set back my thinking quite a bit.

I got it after your next post. Thanks.
It is highly unlikely about Gaur being the real Hansel, but it would certainly help if we could see more of him. Since his apparent mortal enemy phantom is gone, I too wonder if he'll be back, or if so what he'll do.

McCaber
05-31-2009, 06:40 PM
So what's everyone thinking for toDay? I don't want to vote Gaurcrist without a further reason, as modfire is looking extremely likely for him.

So it's got to come down to Inzil or Kath. And I don't know what to think about either of you two. I don't like these sorts of days.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 07:40 PM
So what's everyone thinking for toDay? I don't want to vote Gaurcrist without a further reason, as modfire is looking extremely likely for him.

So it's got to come down to Inzil or Kath. And I don't know what to think about either of you two. I don't like these sorts of days.

The most difficult vote, thus far. Like you, I think Gaurcrist is a wasted vote, not only because modfire appears probable, but because I really don't believe he's a wolf. It's possible he could be LRC, I suppose, but the odds seem to be against it.
If I trust Eomer, and for the moment I do, my vote has to go for Kath, or you.
I didn't like your jumping on the train with phantom for what appeared to be no good reason. You've explained it as trusting him and having no particular inclinations about anyone else. I'm considering that. I really have little else that gives me pause about you.
Kath's last vote was for me. She said she wouldn't be surprised if you were a wolf, but in the same post thought I could be LRC. Now, as I said, I think the odds of LRC being a factor now are low, and there is no further danger of my being turned. The Old Witch has to be our focus at this point.

wilwarin538
05-31-2009, 08:17 PM
Since Gaur didn't post or vote yesterDay (please correct me if that is wrong), if he does not post/vote toDay aswell he is in danger of my modfire powers.

Gaurcrist, I hope you're seeing this.

This Day phase may be a bit longer, really it depends on what time I wake up tomorrow. :rolleyes:Try to get your votes in by at least 9am EST (so what the deadline was at the start of the game), but you can all keep talking until I've told you to stop. I've had a very long weekend, so we'll see if it will result in more sleep or not, I sure hope it does.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 08:25 PM
Since Gaur didn't post or vote yesterDay (please correct me if that is wrong), if he does not post/vote toDay aswell he is in danger of my modfire powers.

Gaurcrist, I hope you're seeing this.

I did not see him. I think that's the second time he's missed an entire Day, though not consecutively.

Inziladun
05-31-2009, 08:56 PM
Considering how late in the game it is, there certainly hasn't been much going on toDay. I do have a bit more to go on regarding McCaber, which is good.
I have to turn in now. I'll sleep on the vote. With luck, this will be the last DL of the game.
Night all.

Inziladun
06-01-2009, 04:52 AM
Anyone here? This is likely my only chance to be here before DL.

Kath
06-01-2009, 05:51 AM
Can't believe on this one day I have to miss deadline. :(

Right, Eomer, I'm hoping one of the evil lot misses the vote and you can add to this at the last minute:

++GAURCRIST

You seem more keen on him being a wolf than Inzil and I'm up for following you if it gets us through the Day!

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 06:53 AM
K...

well, since there are like no posts, I'll give you guys the next 35 minutes.

If Gaurcrist doesn't post before then he will be modfired.

Inziladun
06-01-2009, 06:54 AM
Can't believe on this one day I have to miss deadline. :(

Right, Eomer, I'm hoping one of the evil lot misses the vote and you can add to this at the last minute:

++GAURCRIST

You seem more keen on him being a wolf than Inzil and I'm up for following you if it gets us through the Day!

Gaurcrist? When by all appearances he's about to be modfired?
That's just too much, Kath. I know Eomer voiced the possibility of his being evil, but that smells of throwaway to me.
Eomer? McCaber? Are you here?

Inziladun
06-01-2009, 06:56 AM
++ Kath

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 07:30 AM
K.....where is everyone??????

I'm gonna be super super nice and give you guys another half hour. If nothing happens after that then I'm gonna kill Kath and Gaur.

So....start talking people.

McCaber
06-01-2009, 07:42 AM
Curses, overslept. Not like I missed much, but still it's the principle of the thing. Thanks for the extra time my moddess goddess.

Kath for Gaur is a terrible vote, unless she just didn't want to make a decision. Hmm. I don't have a lot of time left.

What a day.

Kath
06-01-2009, 07:45 AM
wilwa we've got another half an hour anyway no? I thought deadline was at 3pm my time from now on.

Btw, here I am! Surprisingly. :D Got done with school a lot quicker than I thought.

So I hadn't realised Gaurcrist hadn't voted in two Days. If he's going to be modfired anyway then the choice is Inzil or McCaber. I suspect Inzil anyway, and clearly McCaber is going to be more likely to vote him than himself! But then if he's evil he's going to vote me anyway so ...

Eomer? Could really do with you popping up!

I will retract the Gaurcrist vote and vote either Inzil or McCaber in the near future.

McCaber
06-01-2009, 07:47 AM
Well then. I've made my choice here.

++Kath

for lack of a better option.

Edit: crossed with Kath.

Kath
06-01-2009, 07:48 AM
Told you. :(

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 07:49 AM
Well, I had moved back the deadline for the last Day or so by an hour. But yeah, now I suppose it's back to what it has been.

Kath
06-01-2009, 07:50 AM
You should warn people about that wilwa. :p Some of us don't actually pay attention to the timing of the narration post! :D

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 07:53 AM
I did, right here:


Try to get your votes in by at least 9am EST (so what the deadline was at the start of the game), but you can all keep talking until I've told you to stop.

But, now it's back to what it was. So really nothing's changed, haha.

Kath
06-01-2009, 07:53 AM
Well I'm going to vote anyway I think. Go down fighting and all that.

--GAURCRIST

++INZIL

EDIT: Had missed out the -- vote.

Kath
06-01-2009, 07:59 AM
Alright wilwa, no need to rub my stupidity in. :p

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 08:01 AM
ahaha, that's so not what I meant to do. :D You're quiet intelligent my dear, I know that!

So, it's done. Maybe even completely done, I'm not gonna tell. Narration for lynching/modfire up in moments. Then.....we'll see what happens.


Patience. No more posting please.

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 08:12 AM
The sun began to set on our little village yet again. The 5 remaining villagers gathered in the town square. They were just about to discuss when suddenly a large bolt of lightning (even though it was a gorgeous day out) came down and struck Gaurcrist. Uh oh.

So as the sun began to set the now 4 remaining villagers discussed, but only a little bit (bunch of slackers :p ). Kath was the one who would be lynched today.

They led the young lass to the gallows and walked her up the steps.

"By killing me you're dooming the village." She said as tears ran down her face.

"Or we're winning because you are the final baddie." Inziladun suggested hopefully as he put the noose around her neck.

McCaber walked over to the lever and pulled it. The three stood and watched as Kath's completely ordinary and innocent body swayed back and forth.

They walked down the steps and all stood in the middle of the town square. The Old Witch, the Robber Bridegroom and Hansel stared at each other, waiting, as the sun set completely.

The dead:
Nienna - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager
Gwath – defeated Night 4 – Prince Charming
Greenie – chopped up by the Robber Bridegroom middle of Day 4 - Cinderella
Aganzir - eaten by the kitties Day 4 – Rumpelstiltskin
Izzy – strangled Night 5 – Fairy Godmother
Fea - dramatic death scene Day 5 - Ugly Stepsister
Mira - trapped through the looking glass Night 6 - Wielder of the looking glass
the phantom - died nobly Day 6 - Huntsman
Nerwen - killed by the Huntsman Day 6 - Big Bad Wolf
Lari - burned up Night 7 - Gretel
Gaurcrist - modfire Day 7 - Ordinary Villager
Kath - lynched Day 7 - Ordinary Villager

The living:
Eomer - gravedigger
McCaber - humble shopkeeper
Inziladun - shruberrer's apprentice

It is now Night 8. Be patient. Let's see what happens.

No posting please.

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 09:10 AM
The sun set completely and the stars twinkled happily as the moon shone down on the three remaining people. The rest of the night was silent, there was no movement. The Old Witch, the Robber Bridegroom and Hansel stood and stared each other down, waiting to see what would happen.

And it did. A small cackle could be heard from within the circle. The Robber Bridegroom and Hansel turned their heads and watched as his appearance began to change. Within minutes the Old Witch stood before them.

“Hahaha, I knew I’d be able to do this.” She cackled as she stared evilly at the two others. “The others all failed, they weren’t strong enough. But I made it. I kept everything going and I succeeded.”

She stared back and forth between the two others and pulled out a little stick. She spoke a few random words and pointed it at Hansel. Eomer’s body fell dead on the ground.

“Wow, we won!” the Robber Bridegroom said staring at the Old Witch.

“How do you know I won’t kill you too?” the Old Witch asked, turning her little wand to point at McCaber. She didn’t get the chance to do anything however, for a loud noise was heard coming in the distance. They both watched as a large carriage, lead by 6 huge black horses arrived in the town square. It came to a halt and after a long, epic moment of complete silence someone stepped out.

She was quite beautiful, just like her daughter had been, but way scarier. She walked slowly up to where the Old Witch and Robber Bridegroom stood, her long black gown twirling in the sudden wind and her bright crimson hair flowing all down her back.

“Let him be. He did help us when he got hold of Cinderella. Perhaps I shall reward him.” The Evil Queen said smoothly while patting him on the shoulder. She turned to the Old Witch. “You did very well. The village is empty; my people can now keep guard over the castle. Philip’s birthday is today, if he doesn’t wed by midnight I shall gain full control of the kingdom. I have won, and no one can stop me now”

She smiled cruelly and took a glance at the castle where Rosamund still slept soundly.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

A few miles away the Prince sat on his horse looking down on the village. The night had grown very cold and it was the darkest he had ever seen. He looked at the castle where he knew Rosamund slept.

“I should be down there, marrying her right now.” He said to one of his guards.

“We can’t risk it sir.” His guard answered.

“Well, I’d rather be dead then standing here watching that women take away my kingdom.” He said grabbing hold of his reigns.

“Your Majesty, we’ve gone over this. Even if she takes over there is still hope. The lady is not going anywhere.” His advisor said as he rode up to stand beside him, nodding in the direction of the castle.

“But I won’t be king.” Philip said looking back at him.

“It’s in your blood; we’ll find another way to get you on that throne. But we cannot risk your life; no matter what. You are our only hope, even when it seems there is none.” He answered. The Prince nodded but he still looked as if he’d ride down that hill any moment.

There was a strange sound and suddenly something appeared in front of the Prince and his guards. It was foggy at first but after looking closely it became clear they were ghosts. A large wolf, a beautiful girl and a little man. They hovered there and stared at the Prince with terrible smiles on their faces. The wolf and the girl turned and flew off down towards the village. A strange laughter was heard among the wind as the little man flew forward and stood in front of the Prince.

`You lose.’ he whispered before shrieking another laugh and flying between the horses, causing them all to run in the opposite direction of the village. The little man ghost flew down and followed the others to the village.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

The three spirits moved up to the castle and watched the Lady Rosamund sleep. They smiled evilly yet again. The Queen was already taking over, starting by having the Lady`s room locked up and guarded. She was leaving her there to give Philip the tiniest bit of hope, more to rub in her victory than anything else.

The three defeated baddies were not the only ghosts looking on at the scene. Wilwarin stood in a corner of Rosamund`s room watching her friend sleeping soundly. She shed a silent ghostly tear as she vowed that she would not move on from here until the Prince came and rescued the lady, no matter how long it took.

The Queen rewarded the Old Witch and the Robber Bridegroom, and she began making plans for her new kingdom. It seemed hopeless that anything could go back to the peace and happiness that had been in the land before.

Even when the night grew dark, and still stayed dark when the sun should have been rising, the chirping of birds could still be heard as the Lady Rosamund slept soundly in her high tower. Perhaps there could still be a happily ever after.


The dead:
Nienna - hung Day 1 - ordinary villager
Lommy – mauled Night 2 – ordinary villager
Mith - lynched Day 2 - Fair Maiden
Boro88 – yum, frog legs Night 3 – Frog-Prince
Sally – died of shear sorrow Night 3 - Princess
Shasta - shot by arrows Day 3 - ordinary villager
Gwath – defeated Night 4 – Prince Charming
Greenie – chopped up by the Robber Bridegroom middle of Day 4 - Cinderella
Aganzir - eaten by the kitties Day 4 – Rumpelstiltskin
Izzy – strangled Night 5 – Fairy Godmother
Fea - dramatic death scene Day 5 - Ugly Stepsister
Mira - trapped through the looking glass Night 6 - Wielder of the looking glass
the phantom - died nobly Day 6 - Huntsman
Nerwen - killed by the Huntsman Day 6 - Big Bad Wolf
Lari - burned up Night 7 - Gretel
Gaurcrist - modfire Day 7 - Ordinary Villager
Kath - lynched Day 7 - Ordinary Villager
Eomer – killed by the Old Witch Night 8 - Hansel

The living:
McCaber - Robber Bridegroom
Inziladun - Old Witch

BADDIES WIN
VILLAGERS LOSE
LOVERS LOSE

Game summary to follow.

Everyone did wonderfully! Thank you all for playing, I had a wonderful time! :D Hope you all did as well!!!

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 09:14 AM
After Game Stats/Gifted Picks

Little Red Cap: Nienna ;)

Night 1
Mirror Mira: Fea
Big Bad Nerwen: Lommy
Princess Sally and Prince Gwath: forgot to give a guess

Day 1
Princess Sally: Boro, yay!
Prince Gwath: Mith
Hunstman phantom: Lari
Hansel Eomer: Lari
Gretel Lari: Mira
Robber McCaber: Lommy

Night 2
Prince Gwath: Sally
Hunstman phantom: Lari
Big Bad Nerwen: Greenie
Mirror Mira: Boro
Fairy Izzy: Kath

Day 2
Gretel Lari: Kath
Prince Gwath: Fea
Hansel Eomer: Gwath
Robber McCaber: Sally
Hunstman phantom: Izzy

Night 3
Prince Gwath: Agan
Huntsman tp: tp
Mirror Mira: Izzy
Fairy Izzy: Mira
Big Bad Nerwen: Kath

Day 3
Robber McCaber: Izzy
Gretel Lari: phantom
Hansel Eomer: Agan
Prince Gwath: Mira

Night 4
Prince Gwath: Kath
Mirror Mira: Agan
Fairy Izzy: Izzy
Huntsman tp: Wilwa :rolleyes:
Big Bad Nerwen: Mira

Day 4
Robber McCaber: Greenie
Hansel Eomer: Fea
Gretel Lari: Mira

Night 5
Mirror Mira: phantom
Fairy Izzy: Mira
Huntsman tp: Fea
Big Bad Nerwen: Lari

•Hansel and Gretel did not make choices Day 5.

Night 6
Mirror Mira: Gaurcrist
Big Bad Nerwen: McCaber

Day 6
Huntsman tp: Nerwen
Gretel Lari: Eomer


Another way of organising the picks:

Prince Gwath: Mith, Sally, Fea, Agan, Mira, Kath
Princess Sally: Boro
Big Bad Nerwen: Lommy, Greenie, Kath, Mira, Lari, McCaber
Mirror Mira: Fea, Boro, Izzy, Agan, phantom, Gaurcrist
Fairy Izzy: Kath, Mira, Izzy, Mira
Huntsman tp: Lari, Izzy, phantom, Wilwa, Fea, Nerwen
Robber McCaber: Lommy, Sally, Izzy, Greenie
Hansel Eomer: Lari, Gwath, Agan, Fea
Gretel Lari: Mira, Kath, phantom, Mira, Eomer

Inziladun
06-01-2009, 09:40 AM
Evil Triumphs!!!!

Many thanks for the help, McCaber. Obviously you clinched it. Kath had been onto me for awhile, so I feel I dodged a bullet there. And Gaur helped by courteously allowing himself to be modfired. :cool:
Agan, Fea, Nerwen, your advice and assistance was an enormous asset. I couldn't have asked for better accomplices for my first game.
TO EVIL!!!!

Wilwa, I appreciate all your hard work on this. I had a lot of fun.
Thanks to everyone. I'd love to play with you all again. You'll probably take me out the first Day next time, though. ;)

Boromir88
06-01-2009, 09:59 AM
Congrats on your first game Inziladun, when I found out who all the baddies were after dying, I wanted to just point out everything that looked suspicious...hindsight is a killer. :p

So...McCaber, how did you like that robber bridegroom role? hehe :D

Awesome idea for a game wilwa, too bad nasty wolves killed the lover pair so early.

Nerwen
06-01-2009, 10:04 AM
Many thanks for the help, McCaber. Obviously you clinched it.

Yes... pity he had to try and lynch me first, though!:rolleyes:

Inzi– you were just brilliant– I can still hardly believe it's your first game.

To EVIL!!!:D

McCaber
06-01-2009, 10:08 AM
Haha! Once again the McCobbler stands victorious!

Sorry, Nerwen. I totally failed to pick up on you. Good job being so obviously not a wolf you fooled your ally.

That final Day was tense. I had a hard time finding the wolf, but when Kath voted Gaur I could tell she was on the level. Inzil, nicely done. I was worried about Gaur showing up late, though. I'd have to pull a TORE (for all you students on WW history) on that last Day.

And I found one of the three princesses. But Sally escaped me barely, and I lynched Mith by accident. So at the end all three were dead and I made it through. I count that a bonus victory.

Mithalwen
06-01-2009, 10:14 AM
In case anyone is interested my choices for Rumpelstiltskin were:

Boro at the beginning of Day 2 and

Lari
Sally
Gaucrist
Gwath

in a desperate panic as the noose tightened.

I had crossed out Issy from my short list (I was convinced she was evil because she was (to my mind) unfair in her criticism of me) if I had kept her I would have got another guess but I don't think it would have been Aganzir at that point. I went for quieter ones.

I really did think this would be hard for the village which is why I was hoping you wouldn't lynch me (never wrongfully lynched record broken at last). Once I quoted Morwen I felt sure the RB would pin me so I was doomed anyway sinceI could not be protected from him, so I obviously thought lynching me was not teh best course but since I was completely wrong about Shasta and Issy and indeed everybody! lynching me was clearly the way to go:rolleyes:

Anyway very clever concept and I am sorry I didn't get to play longer.

wilwarin538
06-01-2009, 10:28 AM
I'd have to pull a TORE (for all you students on WW history) on that last Day.



I was really hoping that would happen actually, haha. :D

Boromir88
06-01-2009, 10:40 AM
Oh and Mira, asking you if you had anything you were forgetting before going to bed was completely accidental. I had no idea you had the looking glass.

I looked at my role and it said I was supposed to be getting my princesses guesses, but going late into Day 1 I hadn't received anything. So, I PMed wilwa and asked if I would get them, and I found out my lover was slacking (wilwa's words sally, not mine :p). So, I thought my princess was either Mira, Fea, Lari, or sally based on activity. And my question for Mira was to see if she was my princess then she should send in her guess before going to bed. :p

Which Fea pegged down perfectly of course, but I guess I was being that obvious...:rolleyes:

They didn't even give us a chance Sally, but at least you were saved from McCaber.

Inziladun
06-01-2009, 10:49 AM
Congrats on your first game Inziladun, when I found out who all the baddies were after dying, I wanted to just point out everything that looked suspicious...hindsight is a killer. :p

Thanks, Boro. We thought it was a good idea to take you out quickly. ;)

Inzi– you were just brilliant– I can still hardly believe it's your first game.To EVIL!!!:D

See? That voting mistake wasn't such a big deal after all. It really helped to be able to observe you, Agan, and Fea and get general ideas from that.

Haha! Once again the McCobbler stands victorious!

That final Day was tense. I had a hard time finding the wolf, but when Kath voted Gaur I could tell she was on the level. Inzil, nicely done. I was worried about Gaur showing up late, though. I'd have to pull a TORE (for all you students on WW history) on that last Day.

I was a bit worried about Gaur myself. I saw him as a wild card after phantom was gone. Once all the reveals were in, I was quite sure you had to be the RB, and you certainly came through.
TORE- The Only Real Estel?

McCaber
06-01-2009, 11:00 AM
TORE- The Only Real Estel?
Indeed. Look up WWVII (or T-i-G as it was known back then) here. (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=12068) It was recommended to me as one of the best games ever played when I started around game 40.

I still hold it up as an example of how to play a cobbler. Although I may have just spoiled it by mentioning names.

Aganzir
06-01-2009, 11:53 AM
Well done, darlings! I loved being a wolf with you, and especially you Inzil did a great job. :smokin: Plus Cab of course (how come I'm always a wolf when you're the cobbler?).
But if only we had checked Nienna instead of Lommy on night 1 (in the end it was pretty much down between those two)!

Izzy (and Mira), you had me so frustrated but ah well - and maybe it was good I died, I would've been terribly busy later. Good work.

Thanks for the game, wilwa - it was great. :)

satansaloser2005
06-01-2009, 12:18 PM
Dang. Well, it was much fun while it lasted.

*holds onto Boro tightly and pretends nothing past Day 2 happened* :p


Can't stay -things to do presently- but I'll be back later to tell you all how lovely you are! :D

Feanor of the Peredhil
06-01-2009, 12:33 PM
That was totally amusing. While I admit to being wrong about the phantom, even if I'd known his role for certain, I'd have done exactly what I did with him: make the village want him dead.

I tried, oh how I tried, to get my cohorts to kill Mira the very first night after she said "Fea's evil." And every night after...

But it all worked out for the best, so no harm done. :cool:

Mithalwen
06-01-2009, 12:47 PM
Ah but saying Fea is evil is something that always happens.... it is like the Queen's speech at 3pm 25th December....

Feanor of the Peredhil
06-01-2009, 02:30 PM
Ah but saying Fea is evil is something that always happens.... it is like the Queen's speech at 3pm 25th December....

Yes, but...

After two days, there were only actually two players who had said anything with any conviction about any specific player: Greenie and Mira. Seers leave hints. I couldn't bring myself to believe that the game's seer would be so careless as to leave no trackable hints, and as soon as I saw her argument and thought quietly to myself that if my Stick was seer, she'd dream of me first...

Her saying I'm dead guilty is a bit different than everybody else saying I'm probably guilty, particularly when the seer-options are 50:50 her or someone else.

Gwathagor
06-01-2009, 05:44 PM
Oh look, the game's over. There's just one thing I don't understand - how did I die? I never picked the Old Witch as one of my guesses. Is there a rule I'm missing?

Gwathagor
06-01-2009, 05:50 PM
And thanks, Wilwa, for a cool game. :)

Inziladun
06-01-2009, 05:50 PM
Oh look, the game's over. There's just one thing I don't understand - how did I die? I never picked the Old Witch as one of my guesses. Is there a rule I'm missing?

I think we night-killed you.

Gwathagor
06-01-2009, 05:53 PM
Oooooh. Ah ha ha ok I see. :rolleyes:

the phantom
06-01-2009, 06:18 PM
Well, that last day I was alive was interesting. I was shocked to find myself dead, then I slapped my forhead. Hansel and Gretel! Duh! If I had been more careful I might have revealed earlier, but I wanted to play my cards close as long as possible and force people to actually vote without knowledge.

In my mind that would be what would tell the difference between the Baddie-Cobbler and actual Baddie-Wolves. The Wolves wouldn't be so afraid to vote for me, but the Cobbler would have almost no choice but to try and save me after my behavior the previous two days. The Cobbler is flying completely blind, and I figured that there'd be no way he could take the risk of lynching me after my act, even if he was starting to believe I was innocent.

And it worked! McCaber voted with me and Inzil voted against me. :)

Unfortunately our votes weren't what they seemed (something to do with the kids I assume) and I died instead of Nerwen, meaning I had to use my hunt on the second to last wolf that day rather than the last wolf the next night. Oh well. :rolleyes: It was still a blast. I've always wanted to go out like that. :D

Inziladun
06-01-2009, 06:26 PM
Unfortunately our votes weren't what they seemed (something to do with the kids I assume) and I died instead of Nerwen, meaning I had to use my hunt on the second to last wolf that day rather than the last wolf the next night. Oh well. :rolleyes: It was still a blast. I've always wanted to go out like that. :D

I was lucky that Eomer had already voted for you! That's what I meant when I said your suspicious act might have worked too well.
The reason I killed Lari was that I had to assume she had chosen me, and her vote had not counted. All she would have had to do the next Day was tell you all and I'd be done. As it turned out, I think she had chosen Eomer, so his vote was double.

the phantom
06-01-2009, 06:36 PM
I was lucky that Eomer had already voted for you!
Don't remind me! :rolleyes:

I blame myself for that. If I wouldn't have been such a slug and got out of bed at a decent time and made my case earlier in the day (the way I did later in the day), I think I could've gotten on Eomer's wavelength or at least got him to put off voting me for one day. He's played with me a lot and I think he'd have recognized some signs of sincerity. But yeah- when I woke up and saw that his vote was already cast and he was unlikely to return, I was sooooo ticked at myself.

The next day as the deadline approached I can't tell you how much I was hoping for Eomer to come riding in on his warg and save the day. But sometimes RL gets in the way of ME-L. Ah well. Risks don't always pay off.

the phantom
06-01-2009, 06:46 PM
And just because I think it's funny....

I posted this earlier in the game-
And Nerwen, I really miss your odds! I was wanting to place some bets today.

How do these sound?

20-1: We lynch an Ordo.
24-1: There won't be a last minute voting flurry.
1-1: We lynch a Baddie.
9-1: Three people or more retract their votes.
5-1: Shasta puts on another "Phantom show".
24-1: These odds I'm giving are actually a coded message.

:D
Yeah. The odds actually were a code. :p

Each number matches up with a letter in my first post. (20th letter of 1st paragraph is "H", 24th letter of 2nd paragraph is "U", etc etc.... spells out "HUNTER" when finished)

I didn't expect anyone to spot it. I did it just to amuse myself.

McCaber
06-01-2009, 07:00 PM
I knew I should have taken that bet on the code. 24-1 was very tempting.

Nienna
06-01-2009, 08:45 PM
Good game everyone! I didn't really know who to root for especially since I had a wolf talking to me from across the room (Fea) and the seer talking to me over IM... and they were all especially glad that I was dead. Speaking of which...

I DIED ON DAY ONE... AGAIN... thanks guys. And we should just mention that I was one of the few if not the only person who voted for a wolf on that same Day. Just mentioning. Anyway... I guess if we are being technical I was a threat as I could have been turned by a wolf... but no one knew this (not even me). My PM to Wilwa after I died was pretty entertaining and was pretty much me being like: So does the village epically fail or just fail.

Ok I'm done complaining now :D. It really was a great game and I loved watching it. Fabulously played everyone and thanks Wilwa.

satansaloser2005
06-01-2009, 08:53 PM
Huntsman tp: Wilwa :rolleyes:


Wow....I didn't think you'd really do it. Lol a deal's a deal, Phantom. I owe you dinner. :p

satansaloser2005
06-01-2009, 09:40 PM
I think the lovers have rotten luck. Or rather, good luck that turns rotten.

I got Boro right on my first guess, but died pretty much right after. (Well, not really, but I wasn't able to do much and then I died.)

When Mira found Shasta in my game I think she found him at the end of the Day and was dead by the next Dawn.


:eek:

Mirandir
06-02-2009, 12:11 AM
IWhen Mira found Shasta in my game I think she found him at the end of the Day and was dead by the next Dawn.

*grumble* Something like that *grumble*

Anyway, great game everyone! Especially to you, wilwa. And excuse me for a moment while I go "YAY I WAS GIFTED!" and dance around for a little while.

I'll say more at some point tomorrow, but for the time being it is sleepy time for little Miras since she has to go into work in the morning to do nasty bad paperwork so she can actually start work. :rolleyes:

Although before I go, I will say that Lari was absolutely correct when she said she thought I would dream of Izzy after she started attacking me. Consider me predictable like that. :p

Nighty night!

Isabellkya
06-02-2009, 12:29 AM
That was a very fun game Wilwa, thanks for hosting!!

It turned out a lot closer than I thought it would be.
I'm only going to say a half-whups. Since my loopy guessing was at least partially on target.

I thought everyone whom took Agan and Fea at their words on Agan's last day, were completely out of it. Then I remembered, that if I were on the opposite side of it, I'd probably think so to. Then again, who knows.

Great game everyone! xD

Gaurcrist
06-02-2009, 08:30 AM
Oh. Sorry Phantom. Well, at least you had a noble death. Hehe.

Gaurcrist
06-02-2009, 08:52 AM
Since Gaur didn't post or vote yesterDay (please correct me if that is wrong), if he does not post/vote toDay aswell he is in danger of my modfire powers.


Oops. Sorry for being late.

Gaurcrist
06-02-2009, 08:55 AM
HAHA! I was an ordinary villager!!!!!!

Gaurcrist
06-02-2009, 09:05 AM
I had no internet for like 3 days. Life sucks. Well, thanks for playing with me, guys, and thanks for hosting wilwa.

Lariren Shadow
06-03-2009, 01:29 AM
Good game and I really would never have thought of Inzil as the last wolf!

I failed at the whole adding votes the Day tp died. I sent in Eomer knowing that he was a known innocent...and then everything happened and I tried to get it changed at the last minute to save tp. It didn't work, obviously. But it did work in that we still got a wolf!

Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-03-2009, 06:36 AM
Well, that was a fantastic game and thanks to everyone. Congratulations to the victors and especial best wishes to wilwa for the great concept. I had a great time (my post count is ridiculous).

But, ah! what could have been... Especially with retractable votes. Had I been around at the end things might have gone differently. ;)

But whatever: my guesses in this game were absolutely, positively, dreadfully wrong. :D

I love werewolf.

Inziladun
06-03-2009, 07:06 AM
But whatever: my guesses in this game were absolutely, positively, dreadfully wrong. :D

I, for one, am quite glad that was the case.;)

Kath
06-03-2009, 07:33 AM
I really messed up on that last Day ... I am glad I was right about Inzil though! :D

Mithalwen
06-03-2009, 07:46 AM
But since you are usually killed night one, Kath, m'dear last days as an ordo are practically uncharted water :p

Still don't know whether I should be relieved or gutted that I lost my never wrongfully lynched status... I was going to give up WW (I always say this) but this game was so tempting.. now I think I shall have to go on until I can survive as a wolf in a "grown up game" to restore my amour propre. Without a total personality change this is never going to happen I fear ...

Eomer of the Rohirrim
06-03-2009, 08:02 AM
Inziladun, I couldn't suspect you on the basis that you always seemed to agree with me; it was a constant worry, though just dull and sufficiently hidden enough to be ignored. I haven't played with you before and I've not played with Nerwen too much either, but I think you were both tremendous wolves. Both very reassuring to innocents.

Thinlómien
06-03-2009, 04:36 PM
Hey, it was a great game. :D I'm sad I died so early but it was maybe better for my exams and besides it was also great fun to observe and snicker.... ;) Thanks everybody!

Shastanis Althreduin
06-03-2009, 08:27 PM
No mention of my lunacy? I am shocked and appalled.

Thanks for the game, Wilwa. ;)