Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, Quarantine Thread

[Huinesoron]

With the Wolves not believing Kit, and most of the village not believing sally, and who knows what will happen with the Seer - I feel like the only gifted who will actually be believed is the Child, and that's because of mod omnipotence. Whence all the overflowing suspicion - from BOTH sides?

No, no, you're not being suspicious enough - the IC will post, and in the ten minutes between that and Nog showing up to confirm, nine people will vote for them. :D

Fourtified!

:D:D

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

For a noble cause! :D

Seriously [or far from so], a request for Nog: if you could do a pretend ++Brin vote from the QT before saying it's actually ++whoever, that would make everybody's day. (unless it's actually Brin) :D

Now now, I'm all for good fun, but I really wouldn't like someone of the Living to actually get a heart attack...

As for otherwise, I am starting to think that it might be one option to vote Zil. But we may want to give them something to chew on for toMorrow, in which case it could be somebody else if Zil looked like the village's probably suspect toDay anyways.

I also agree with Kit about both Steve (his last posts have also been suspicious and I'm kinda wondering if he's setting up for himself the future to bus Zil and then have innocents among his other suspects) and Lhuna.

Can someone figure out Lottie?

[Huinesoron]

Someone among the living mentioned that the Seer is up to four dreams now. When I've been reading old dreams, the Seer reveals are some of the most exciting bits - are they going to drop two or three wolves at once? Have they been working to protect a whole bunch of innocents? Have all their targets been lynched already, leaving them feeling useless? Or have they been the driving force behind multiple successful wolf lynches?

In this game, we have the added thrill that if they don't manage to get all their knowledge out in the open, the village will be stuck trying to mind-read the QT to figure out what the Seer has told them... which I would hate to be doing, but will be brilliant fun to watch. :D

hS

[Kitanna]

I feel like Zil is hard at work to get a Lommy bandwagon going. Which if Mac (he did suggest it, right? I'm at work and can't scroll through) guessed correctly and Boro is the seer and dreamt an innocent Lommy, then that makes Zil look very bad indeed.
He's been looking fishy for a while.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Been thinking the same. And I'm up for giving our vote to Zil today.

Also I see Boro has been talking about Lhuna now, which makes me think we need not give our vote to her today, bc if he is really the Seer, and if he is around, he may continue going for her also next Day, and if he dies, people would likely follow on it (plus we could put the message across from here).

Opinions? Others? Sally?

[Macalaure]

For the QT. I would vote +-Lhuna Aye Cap'n!

[satansaloser2005]

I'm awake! And here! Well, at least one of those things.

[Macalaure]

We might be able to start a bandwaggon since our vote is always one of the first. So that's nice.

My one worry is if we explicitly follow Boro's instruction, it paints a target for the wolves right on his face.

A night-killed seer still gets their dream, right? Modgod?

[satansaloser2005]

Seriously [or far from so], a request for Nog: if you could do a pretend ++Brin vote from the QT before saying it's actually ++whoever, that would make everybody's day. (unless it's actually Brin) :D

I also support this plan. :D


I'd currently prefer Steve over Dun, but I see the logic behind a Dun vote, so let me read through the GT again and I'll reconsider.

[Rikae]

For the QT. I would vote +-Lhuna


I could go for this, maybe, as she's one of the ones I was thinking of with "under the radar".

[Rikae]

We might be able to start a bandwaggon since our vote is always one of the first. So that's nice.

My one worry is if we explicitly follow Boro's instruction, it paints a target for the wolves right on his face.

A night-killed seer still gets their dream, right? Modgod?

I mean, it only indicates that we trust Boro, and we don't know anything. Nor does he, if you're right - Lhuna could be innocent. But yeah, it draws attention to the interaction. We could go for another of his suspects.

[Macalaure]

I reeeally hope Boro will dream of Greenie tonight. I will eat my mousepad if she's not evil.

[satansaloser2005]

I'm not so convinced Boro is the seer, but I'll go with the consensus for now.

I'd be okay with a Dun vote. It would certainly clear up more things in the living thread, and it's not like I'm convinced of his innocence. That said, if a "better" candidate is brought up, say Lottie or Steve for instance, I wouldn't complain.


x'd with Mac

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I mean, it only indicates that we trust Boro, and we don't know anything. Nor does he, if you're right - Lhuna could be innocent. But yeah, it draws attention to the interaction. We could go for another of his suspects.

The thing that it paints a target on his face is what I thought and why I suggested Zil instead. See above. If he's still alive, he may continue to push Lhuna toMorrow. If he isn't, people may deduce as much from his posts and go after her too. And in either of the cases we can vote her toMorrow.

[Rikae]

So, going through the whole game thread to analyze Steve, Lhuna & Zil, came upon this little exchange between Boro and our very own G55 that I'd forgotten about:


Umm, what was that all about? I get that you want to replace/amend the idea of lists with a single choice, the top pick. But seriously, what?

Should we test you for viral encephalopathy?


I might need such a test. Whether we're aware, or in the unconscious, we all remain in-character. Agreed? And what do you glean from my in-character? Am I aware I'm doing it or is it in the unconscious? Leave that thought there for a moment.


So, um, there's that.

And in response to Boro talking about waiting for someone to cough:
*cough*
*cough cough*
*ahem*
*clears throat*

Congrats on the anniversary!


(Completely unrelated, but for some reason I forgot how to spell "throat" and ended up with something like "throuaght". Do I need to be tested for viral encephalopathy too? )

That too.

[Kitanna]

I mean, it only indicates that we trust Boro, and we don't know anything. Nor does he, if you're right - Lhuna could be innocent. But yeah, it draws attention to the interaction. We could go for another of his suspects.
I'm not so convinced Boro is the seer, but I'll go with the consensus for now.

I'd be okay with a Dun vote. It would certainly clear up more things in the living thread, and it's not like I'm convinced of his innocence. That said, if a "better" candidate is brought up, say Lottie or Steve for instance, I wouldn't complain.

If Mac suspected Boro as Seer based on nothing, but a solid read-through, then methinks the wolves would be catching on by now too?

I was thinking it over and came to a few theories about Boro.
1) BoroSeer dreamt an innocent Lommy, dreamt a guilty Lhuna. He's playing everything pretty close to the vest to avoid detection.
2) He's a wolf and I'd say Lommy might be one too. I say that because of Huin's persistent suspicion of her, but then he'd vote elsewhere. This is a very bold move for wolves, but if two wolves are lynched Boro and Huin and one suspected Lommy and the other defended her, then she might be perceived innocentish in the aftermath.
3) He's a perceptive innocent who is leaving fake clues to draw wolves to him as the seer. In which case, Lommy is likely innocent.

Personally, I find Zil to be the most suspicious, followed by Eonwe as a submarine wolf, with Lhuna as a slightly distanced third.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I reeeally hope Boro will dream of Greenie tonight. I will eat my mousepad if she's not evil.
Similar sentiment here. More and more. At one point yesterDay I sorta stopped suspecting her, but otherwise I so don't like it how she's "soft-suspecting" Lommy, or others. Always the structure of her posts seems to be:
"<Quote=XY.> I think what XY says makes actually a lot of sense. I can talk for a whole paragraph about how this makes sense.
Let me just finish by saying this one reason why you should lynch them, but otherwise fine."
That's kind of a similar behaviour to Hui.

I'd be okay with a Dun vote. It would certainly clear up more things in the living thread, and it's not like I'm convinced of his innocence. That said, if a "better" candidate is brought up, say Lottie or Steve for instance, I wouldn't complain.
Basically me.

I would say,

+-Zil

and then if for some reason it messes up, secondarily Steve, tertiary Lhuna.

So, going through the whole game thread to analyze Steve, Lhuna & Zil, came upon this little exchange between Boro and our very own G55 that I'd forgotten about:

Uhh... I totally didn't get that.


x-ed with Kit

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

If Mac suspected Boro as Seer based on nothing, but a solid read-through, then methinks the wolves would be catching on by now too?

Except perhaps our Wolves aren't the brightest, given that it took them one Night and basically outright confirmation from you before they decided to kill you. What say you, our local Wolf? Is your pack not the brightest? :p

(Or perhaps they are just indecisive. That would point to Greenie.)

[Kitanna]

Except perhaps our Wolves aren't the brightest, given that it took them one Night and basically outright confirmation from you before they decided to kill you. What say you, our local Wolf? Is your pack not the brightest? :p

I mean, your Ranger wasn't the brightest. Maybe the village it's the infection eat away at our brains. :p

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I mean, your Ranger wasn't the brightest. Maybe the village it's the infection eat away at our brains. :p

Well, given how yesterDay's lynch went, I wouldn't rule that possibility out... :rolleyes:

[Kitanna]

Has anyone gotten a read on Rune? I forgot he was playing until I saw a mention of him. Talk about a submarine.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Has anyone gotten a read on Rune? I forgot he was playing until I saw a mention of him. Talk about a submarine.

He seemed super okay to me, largely because I agreed with 99% of what he said and the remaining 1% was stuff where I originally also thought the same and then changed my mind.

If he's a Wolf, he's a very good one. He at least seems to have his own mind too.

That isn't to say he can't be a Wolf - anybody can - but probably no reason making him the center of our interest. Yet.

[Kitanna]

That isn't to say he can't be a Wolf - anybody can - but probably no reason making him the center of our interest. Yet.
I'm not throwing him out as an option, not when so many others look so suspicious. I was just curious if anyone had a read on him. He has been completely under the radar the whole game. Which, he's a brilliant submarine wolf, if he's guilty of lupine activities.

[Huinesoron]

Except perhaps our Wolves aren't the brightest, given that it took them one Night and basically outright confirmation from you before they decided to kill you. What say you, our local Wolf? Is your pack not the brightest? :p

I would say we're thick as two short planks, but I'm not sure we're clever enough to use planks. :D

Always the structure of her posts seems to be:
"<Quote=XY.> I think what XY says makes actually a lot of sense. I can talk for a whole paragraph about how this makes sense.
Let me just finish by saying this one reason why you should lynch them, but otherwise fine."
That's kind of a similar behaviour to Hui.


I really want to promise that next game I will just point at people and scream "WOOOOLF!" if they look dodgy.

But I can't. It is totally foreign to my nature. :(

hS

[Kitanna]

In about forty minutes I'm going to go into a two hour meeting and I'll miss our DL. At this point I'm leaning toward Zil, I don't want to split our vote against our cobbler and wolf. So if if anyone else has a better candidate, they think we should go after, let me know.

[satansaloser2005]

I'm pretty comfy with a Dun vote today, so if that will guarantee us a unified innocent vote, I'll go for it.

[Rikae]

In one way or another the cobbler is the most beneficial when sacrificing for the pack (counts as an innocent lynched).

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! :D

Nice one, Boro.

[Rikae]

I'm pretty comfy with a Dun vote today, so if that will guarantee us a unified innocent vote, I'll go for it.

The more I look through his history, the more I feel like he plays too risky, and speaks too carelessly, for a wolf.

Lhuna, OTOH, looks fishier and fishier. If Boro is the seer, he's taking a calculated risk and must consider it worthwhile.

[Huinesoron]

No, they don't, but they have read Gal and Huine's interactions on the QT thread and know what lead them to pick Brinn yesterDay.

:D And has it been super helpful for you, Cutiennocents?

I see you're looking at an In/Zil/Dun vote (seriously, does he not have a single nickname?). Interesting, veeery interesting.

hS

[Macalaure]

I think I feel like simply going with Boro's suggestion of Lhuna toDay, in the hope that he knows what he's doing.

If it's going to be Inzil or Loslote, I'm not going to complain either though.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I think I feel like simply going with Boro's suggestion of Lhuna toDay, in the hope that he knows what he's doing.

If it's going to be Inzil or Loslote, I'm not going to complain either though.

How do Sally and Kit feel about it?

I'm only wondering what will happen once we cast our vote. If we cast it for Zil, the village may jump on it, since it's been in the air for a long time, and he might get lynched. With Lhuna, I am not so sure. Do you think people have been suspecting her enough for it to create any popular support, and not simply turn into pointing a big finger at Boro?

That's why I am more for Zil. But I'm listening.

[satansaloser2005]

How do Sally and Kit feel about it?

I'm only wondering what will happen once we cast our vote. If we cast it for Zil, the village may jump on it, since it's been in the air for a long time, and he might get lynched. With Lhuna, I am not so sure. Do you think people have been suspecting her enough for it to create any popular support, and not simply turn into pointing a big finger at Boro?

That's why I am more for Zil. But I'm listening.

Dun or Lottie have better chances of being lynched toDay in my opinion.

[Huinesoron]

I see you're looking at a Lhuna vote. Interesting, veeery interesting.

I see you're looking at a Lottie vote. Interesting, veeery interesting.

I see you're looking at a Brinn vote. Interesting, veeery interesting.

No? Well, it was worth a try. :D

hS

[Rikae]

I'm just saying, I think the guy who tricked the cobbler (if I'm right) probably thought through the consequences of us voting for Lhuna.

I don't know what the rest of his plan is but I'd like to find out.

[Kitanna]

Dun or Lottie have better chances of being lynched toDay in my opinion.
That's my thought too. Lhuna's gotten some talk, but it doesn't look like enough to get her lynched. Unless it turns into a last hour Huin situation.

[Rikae]

Dun or Lottie have better chances of being lynched toDay in my opinion.

And maybe they're innocent.

[Rikae]

I'd actually prefer not to vote for someone who's already likely to be lynched. Too easy for wolves to jump on our vote and push it through. Seems like going for someone under more moderate suspicion gives the living more flexibility in the last two hours.

[Kitanna]

And maybe they're innocent.
And maybe they're not. We don't have any way to know unless they get lynched (or killed in the Night), unless Huin wants to turncoat, in which case, I'd just assume he was lying anyway.

I need to go. I'd prefer to vote Zil but I'll go

++Lhuna

Her death could tell us a lot about the theory of Boro-seer.

[Macalaure]

Then again, they don't need our help to lynch Inzil or Loslote. ;)

I'm wondering whether Boro, seeing a Lhuna vote for us, will try to drum up a bandwaggon against her. The general amount of suspicion in the air might be enough. And if it's Inzil or Loslote in the end, no harm done.

[Rikae]

And maybe they're not. We don't have any way to know unless they get lynched (or killed in the Night), unless Huin wants to turncoat, in which case, I'd just assume he was lying anyway.


Uh, yeah.

Well, actually no, they can be seer-dreamed, which is preferable to lynching innocents.

Anyway, let's hope Boro knows what he's doing. And in the case he's evil or misguided ordo, at least I didn't see anything seerish about her (*knock on wood*).

++Lhuna

[Rikae]

I'm wondering whether Boro, seeing a Lhuna vote for us, will try to drum up a bandwaggon against her. The general amount of suspicion in the air might be enough. And if it's Inzil or Loslote in the end, no harm done.

Yeah, it seems like it could be possible.

[satansaloser2005]

Then again, they don't need our help to lynch Inzil or Loslote. ;)

Fair point.


I'm about to disappear for a while, but I'll be back before our DL and will vote then. I'll hold out for now just in case it's needed for some bizarre reason.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I'd actually prefer not to vote for someone who's already likely to be lynched. Too easy for wolves to jump on our vote and push it through. Seems like going for someone under more moderate suspicion gives the living more flexibility in the last two hours.
I agree with that. It would be nice if we managed to create a decent option. I was just also worried that we may draw targets to Boro and on top of that the village may lynch someone innocent, which (perhaps) may be Lommy. Then again, something like that will be an issue every Day.

Then again, they don't need our help to lynch Inzil or Loslote. ;)

I'm wondering whether Boro, seeing a Lhuna vote for us, will try to drum up a bandwaggon against her. The general amount of suspicion in the air might be enough. And if it's Inzil or Loslote in the end, no harm done.

But then we need to count on the consequences. Such as him getting hard-targeted.

Also, I did not like the amount of "what ifs" in that chain ("if Boro is a Seer and if he is right/dreamed about Lhuna"). But you, Mac, seem to operate on those this game :D

I'm okay with Lhuna, I'll just wait until the last moment so that there doesn't came any "I am the Seer" nonsense or such.

[Macalaure]

I'm not 100% certain Boro is the seer, but given what little else we know for sure, I think it's worthwhile to go with.

And I actually don't believe that he dreamt of her. But she's guilty-enough looking and it signals Boro a vote of confidence.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I'm not 100% certain Boro is the seer, but given what little else we know for sure, I think it's worthwhile to go with.

And I actually don't believe that he dreamt of her. But she's guilty-enough looking and it signals Boro a vote of confidence.

Well, let's just hope that it outweighs the minuses. Because the minuses of giving him a vote of confidence are, unfortunately, almost clearer than the pluses: our vote of confidence shows the WWs plain as day that we think he's the Seer - so the village can see we trust him, but what good will it do if he dies next Night. Since he has not revealed himself yet, maybe he would have hoped to stay hidden.
I'd sorta hope that someone else might vote Lhuna before our vote is revealed, because then it won't be all on Boro.
(But anyways, see, this is what I think we should have debated during the Day and not after half of people had to cast their votes. This by the way we should keep in mind on future Days as this thread will become more and more populated.)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

...but it's true that now that people like Lottie are doubting Boro, a vote of confidence may be appropriate.

But all this with the assumption that we are right and he's not a Wolf.

[Macalaure]

Then again, if we vote for Lhuna (whether she gets lynched or not) and the wolves know she's not one of them, they might actually not believe that he's the seer, but only that we trust him, which alone isn't necessarily reason to kill him.

[Macalaure]

If we are wrong about Boro, we will find out soon enough. And the real seer is still out there, too.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Then again, if we vote for Lhuna (whether she gets lynched or not) and the wolves know she's not one of them, they might actually not believe that he's the seer, but only that we trust him, which alone isn't necessarily reason to kill him.

Unless they think we think he thinks... :D

But yeah, good point. I guess we'll see. I mean, it isn't like we can micromanage everything in this game. We can only decide what to do with the time... yadda yadda, you know how it goes. :smokin:

[Macalaure]

Here goes nothing!

++Lhunardawen

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

@Cuties If I was going to vote right now, I would vote for one of:

+- Boro
+- Lommy

We may have chosen well!

[Galadriel55]

I see I have chosen a poor day to be busy with RL. So many developments! I have not even seen the GT yet...

[Rikae]

I have to say, one nice part of this format is the fun the dead get to have watching the living interpret their actions.

Although it could also turn out incredibly frustrating.

[Macalaure]

I'm glad everybody is giving us suggestions. That way, following Boro's suggestion is less glaring.

[Rikae]

I'm glad everybody is giving us suggestions. That way, following Boro's suggestion is less glaring.

Everybody is giving suggestions that look really, really evil to me at the moment. :eek:

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Everybody is giving suggestions that look really, really evil to me at the moment. :eek:

Indeed. Anyways, did Lhuna just make a slip? The part Lommy quoted.

And looks like I may have to vote from my phone, which is a bit of a pain (but I guess we are okay even without).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I like it how they are discussing as if I was actually the Seer. :rolleyes:


Anyway, pro forma

++Lhuna

[satansaloser2005]

So be it! :)

++Lhuna

[Nogrod]

With four votes, that's sealed.

Thank you for your vote.


EDIT: X-d with Sally - it is sealed with 5 votes...

[Galadriel55]

I am just sitting down to read GT, I have no idea what happened since about 9 hours ago. :eek: But [i]pro forma[/oi], as Legate said:

++ Brin, for the cause.

I am sorry I missed the action, because by the sound of it after a QT skim the action has already happened (???). Anyways, off to fix the confused state.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Lol! Nog, you did it!!! :D

Also, when I came home, Lommy said: "I don't of course know what the QT looks like and what's being discussed there, but regardless of everything let me just say that if the vote toDay turns out to be for Brinniel, the Living Thread would probably go crazy."

[Huinesoron]

Nog, you are the best mod-god. :D :D I love it.

hS

[satansaloser2005]

ALL HAIL NOG. ALL HAIL NOG.

We love you. <3

[Nogrod]

At your service. :)

[Kitanna]

Nog! Nog! Nog!

[Galadriel55]

Fourtified (or whatever)! :D You're the best, Nog!

But does that mean we had the whole thread and the Mod play cobbler for a bit? ;)

[Rikae]

At your service. :)

Most excellent and audacious mod! May the hair on his toes never fall out!

[Huinesoron]

Now taking bets on 'will the last-minute wagon be on one of the five people already voted for, or just come out of the blue?', and also 'will we get a Seer claim (and will they lynch anyway)?'.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Now taking bets on 'will the last-minute wagon be on one of the five people already voted for, or just come out of the blue?', and also 'will we get a Seer claim (and will they lynch anyway)?'.

hS

Here's a bet: we will get some kind of claim. They will get lynched anyways. There will be a vote for another throwaway but suspicious candidate when the majority have already voted.Lommy will still be alive toMorrow. So will Boro.

Prove me wrong!

[Rikae]

Thought guilty earlier but think better now:
Lottie

Could have looked seerish.

[Rikae]

Although that would mean an innocent Lottie, and if she's innocent she needs to stop looking so evil.

[Galadriel55]

Although that would mean an innocent Lottie, and if she's innocent she needs to stop looking so evil.

:smokin:

[Huinesoron]

All this in mind, I'm trusting QT

Ka trusts you lot!

Little does she know. :D

(I tried to make a pointy-toothed :D but couldn't get it to work. Alas.)

hS

[Galadriel55]

Brinniel has fallen completely under my reindeer and I consider that an issue.
This is cute.

This is cute. :cool:

See? This is why we should have voted Brin!

[Galadriel55]

I'm willing to bet G55 and Huey had fun trolling us for 2 days in the QT.

Are you going for the safe bets here? No theories about whether Hui was bluffing or double bluffing? Or that I fake revealed so late on purpose because I thought Brin is a wolf? ;)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Could have looked seerish.

Could have, and I was aware of it at the time I made it, but I think that's anyone's guess. To be fair, nobody seems to have paid attention to what *I* intended to be my "Seer-hint" (or rather a Seer-probe), but it isn't like anybody besides Lommy (and perhaps the WWs at Night) seems to have analysed my posts. To be fair I'm glad they didn't, it would be a waste overall. But Lommy overlooked some stuff and if it was correct, I understand why the WWs wouldn't bring it up. (I will just leave this here open-ended so that our resident baddies have something to wonder about.)

[satansaloser2005]

Well, this is certainly interesting....

[Galadriel55]

People holding on to votes - I hope they realize it's not just who gets the most votes, but who gets the most votes *first*.

[Huinesoron]

Both people who have voted Lhuna so far have done so solely on the basis that they trust the Cuties. It's rather adorable.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Both people who have voted Lhuna so far have done so solely on the basis that they trust the Cuties. It's rather adorable.

hS

How thrilling if the InnoCuties turn out to be wrong. :Merisu:


[Incidentally: +1000 posts on D4? Whole games have played out on less than half that. This is really insane.

++tweet-style character/post-capped game

TIG CXV - The Liar Tweets Tonight?]

Please. I gave up on reading the entire posts since I died. It is too much. Spam all you want, but please limited post length!

[Galadriel55]

sounds rather "agreeable", no?

(tm)

[Huinesoron]

How thrilling if the InnoCuties turn out to be wrong. :Merisu:

It would be absolutely delicious.

Please. I gave up on reading the entire posts since I died. It is too much. Spam all you want, but please limited post length!

10 posts per Day, max 280 characters each, each post can contain a single quote of no more than one sentence (not counted in length limit). Vote can be a separate post, not one of the 10, but most only contain your ++vote.

The setting: a Faithful hideout on Numenor during the height of the Dark Times. Everyone has to be quiet in case Sauron's priests hear.

hS, game theorist? Maybe not.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

The setting: a Faithful hideout on Numenor during the height of the Dark Times. Everyone has to be quiet in case Sauron's priests hear.

hS, game theorist? Maybe not.

Why not?

There has been a similar setting, but you could enhance it. That might be fun.

The original setting was my very first game, modded by Mac, but it was unusually the other way around: the "Wolves" were the good guys. It was "The Isle of the Were-Faithful". The former queen Tar-Míriel was the Cobbler.

[Galadriel55]

10 posts per Day, max 280 characters each, each post can contain a single quote of no more than one sentence (not counted in length limit). Vote can be a separate post, not one of the 10, but most only contain your ++vote.

The setting: a Faithful hideout on Numenor during the height of the Dark Times. Everyone has to be quiet in case Sauron's priests hear.

hS, game theorist? Maybe not.

Alternative setting: you are the Druedain during the Great War, living on different hills and communicating with drums using Morse code. While Morse code can be used to communicate even quicker than typing, it has the benefit of people having to take turns to speak rather than massive cross-post rambles.

[Huinesoron]

10 minutes to go, 3 left to vote (Shasta, Boro, Brinn), and it's Lhuna or Eonwe...

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

And looks like it may be Lhuna. If yes, we're going to see very soon whether we were right, or what...

[Huinesoron]

10 minutes to go, 3 left to vote (Shasta, Boro, Brinn), and it's Lhuna or Eonwe...

hS

And it looks like various Living can't count; they're still talking about making it interesting when it's already been decided.

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Alternative setting: you are the Druedain during the Great War, living on different hills and communicating with drums using Morse code. While Morse code can be used to communicate even quicker than typing, it has the benefit of people having to take turns to speak rather than massive cross-post rambles.

Yeah? Watch me write a massive post of usual size, all in Morse code...

[Galadriel55]

I don't think a wagon I like more is going to come along at this late stage.

Are we picking wagons now, or voting according to one's own conscience? :p

[Huinesoron]

The original setting was my very first game, modded by Mac, but it was unusually the other way around: the "Wolves" were the good guys. It was "The Isle of the Were-Faithful". The former queen Tar-Míriel was the Cobbler.

Oh, I think I read that one! I enjoyed it. :) Werewolf is fun to read afterwards (though gets tricky when there's multiple threads.)

hS

[Macalaure]

I am surprised how easily the living are swayed. I was not super optimistic about our influence on them.

With great power comes great responsibility. :eek:

Also, if we get it wrong, which is absolutely possible, if not likely, regardless of what these two taunting pain-in-the-necks in this thread may or may not imply, I worry slightly that our influence will diminish toMorrow.

[Galadriel55]

yeah? Watch me write a massive post of usual size, all in morse code...

:d:d:d

Edit: the Downs keeps un-capitalizing my posts too. :D :D :D

[Huinesoron]

Are we picking wagons now, or voting according to one's own conscience? :p

Walking is hard; everyone loves a wagon.

I am surprised how easily the living are swayed. I was not super optimistic about our influence on them.

With great power comes great responsibility. :eek:

Also, if we get it wrong, which is absolutely possible, if not likely, regardless of what these two taunting pain-in-the-necks in this thread may or may not imply, I worry slightly that our influence will diminish toMorrow.

Hehe. "If."

(But yes, that surprised me too.)

hS

[Macalaure]

The original setting was my very first game, modded by Mac, but it was unusually the other way around: the "Wolves" were the good guys. It was "The Isle of the Were-Faithful". The former queen Tar-Míriel was the Cobbler.

Good times :)

I spent a fair amount of times digging through HoME and whatnot to find quotes and snippets to turn into narrations. Great fun!

[Galadriel55]

I am surprised how easily the living are swayed. I was not super optimistic about our influence on them.

What was it that people kept repeating on Day 1? People who wait for the QT vote and then make decisions that are guided by it, without a dead Seer, are subject to suspicion?No, it can't be that.


Honestly, they are analyzing the vote of a collection of un-Seer innocents more than they analyzed the vote likely cast by a known wolf. :rolleyes:

[Huinesoron]

The only reason I'm not happy with how this is going is if Lhuna doesn't turn out to be a wolf

#ContextlessQuotes

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[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I am surprised how easily the living are swayed. I was not super optimistic about our influence on them.

With great power comes great responsibility. :eek:

Also, if we get it wrong, which is absolutely possible, if not likely, regardless of what these two taunting pain-in-the-necks in this thread may or may not imply, I worry slightly that our influence will diminish toMorrow.

Been thinking the same.

Aaanyway... let's see who is it that we welcome here...

[Galadriel55]

#ContextlessQuotes

hS

:D Naughty Hui!

[Huinesoron]

:D Naughty Hui!

So very naughty. :D

So, Lhuna... I'm thinking Seer? That would be about right for this game.

hS

[satansaloser2005]

So very naughty. :D

So, Lhuna... I'm thinking Seer? That would be about right for this game.

hS

Hush up, Huey. No one asked you. :p

[Galadriel55]

So very naughty. :D

So, Lhuna... I'm thinking Seer? That would be about right for this game.

hS

Child! Child! Child!

[Galadriel55]

Hush up, Huey. No one asked you. :p

Too bad :p

[Huinesoron]

Hush up, Huey. No one asked you. :p

Don't I get seniority for being quarantined longer than you? [Waves walking stick petulantly]

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[Rikae]

Hush up, Hui, no one asked you.

[Galadriel55]

Hush up, Hui, no one asked you.

Too bad :p

[Huinesoron]

Hush up, Hui, no one asked you.

Dag-nabbit.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Anyways, welcome Lhuna, whatever you are!

[Rikae]

Too bad :p

Maybe you should ask him. Did you save a wolf, or blunder into a pointless day 1 suicide? That would really suck.

[Galadriel55]

Maybe you should ask him. Did you save a wolf, or blunder into a pointless day 1 suicide? That would really suck.

Ask Kit if it was pointless. ^.^

[Macalaure]

Lhunardawen – Sador, an Infector (voted into QT on Day4)

Niiice! :)

[Galadriel55]

Ahey! Welcome, sister! :p I am selfishly happy about you joining us. :p

[Macalaure]

Welcome to the dead side. We have cookies!

[Galadriel55]

Now we can finally figure out a proper way to integrate Prolonged QT Syndrome into this game. :D

[Rikae]

Ask Kit if it was pointless. ^.^

You gifted revealed, like any cobbler would, and got lucky. Still think you'd have been more use to the wolves alive in the late game ... but why don't you ask them? :p

[Huinesoron]

Hi Lhuna, welcome to the madhouse! This lot are all annoyingly in tune on who to vote for, so hopefully the rest of the pack send us someone who can get them squabbling and let your tie-breaker get to work.

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[Huinesoron]

... but why don't you ask them? :p

Don't know about that, but she's been invaluable in preserving my lack of sanity in the QT.

hS

[Galadriel55]

You gifted revealed, like any cobbler would, and got lucky. Still think you'd have been more use to the wolves alive in the late game ... but why don't you ask them? :p

Or perhaps the Wolves thought I would be best used the way I was? Did that thought make its way into your considerations? :smokin:

[satansaloser2005]

Welcome, Lhunatic! Happy to have you here on many levels! :smokin:


I stand corrected today re: my hesitance to vote Lhuna. Well done, all!

[Galadriel55]

Don't know about that, but she's been invaluable in preserving my lack of sanity in the QT.

hS

:Merisu:

[Rikae]

Or perhaps the Wolves thought I would be best used the way I was? Did that thought make its way into your considerations? :smokin:

Obviously you thought they did. And I know why. And it's hilarious.

[Galadriel55]

Obviously you thought they did. And I know why. And it's hilarious.

Or did I pretend I thought they did? You keep either underestimating or overestimating the thought process I put into the last bit of Day 1 when I came back to see I was on the block.

[Rikae]

Or did I pretend I thought they did? You keep either underestimating or overestimating the thought process I put into the last bit of Day 1 when I came back to see I was on the block.

https://i.imgur.com/DZQTDMs.gif

[Galadriel55]

:D

https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/90/90eab8eb70b4b2ec6fe32e9aea86f55f.jpeg

[Macalaure]

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders,

the most famous of which is

“Never get involved in a land war in Asia,”

but only slightly less well known is this:

“Never talk to a cobbler, when death is on the line!”

[Galadriel55]

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders,

the most famous of which is

“Never get involved in a land war in Asia,”

but only slightly less well known is this:

“Never talk to a cobbler, when death is on the line!”

* Hey, look over there! Just behind you, over your shoulder! *

:p

[Macalaure]

"Boo! Boo! Rubbish! Filth! Slime! Muck! Boo! Boo! Boo!"

:p

[Lhunardawen]

I'm so happy to finally be in (what I believe is) the more fun thread! :smokin:

If I had known I would wake up and find myself here, I would have given my greeting to sally in person.

[Lhunardawen]

And putting this out there for those of us west of the Pacific:

THIS DEADLINE SUCKS

:p

[Lhunardawen]

Caught up to the first half of the thread while totes not-working from home. Bad Lhuna.

Actually, regardless of content, I wanna reach 2 pages of posts before Half-Day, just to make the GT wonder what the Angband is happening here.
*raises hands* I was tempted to comment about it on the living thread but was paranoid it might be used against me somehow. Apparently anything can happen in this game. :rolleyes:

I'm dead now anyway, but I will have to admit that every now and then I checked the post count on this thread and wonder what's happening.

I kind of like the idea of you two hyper-posting and making the people in the Game-Thread super-curious. Let's just hope they can then hold on to their horses and resist the temptation to peek in.

:D Lucky we don't have a modmegil in the game (but I do wish morm were playing, though).

Talking about referring to what others have said!
The Mod God had screencapped my post - my work here is done. :smokin:

[Lhunardawen]

Aaand now I'm caught up.

We could do a race. Can we add posts faster than Legate can catch up? Highly unlikely, given that there are only so many of us active at the moment, and our posts are not Walls of Text.
++WALLS OF TEXT to Mordor. I'm already loving this thread. <3

The mention of Aoife in a werewolf thread gives me bad flashbacks. Who among the presently dead were already around to play with Roa of old? Kitanna, Nog? She was scary good at this.
*raises hand* That woman is unreal. Gurthang and his Good Side was decimated in DWW I.

Also Mac, I saw what you did with the permutations. Thank you for noticing.

Seriously [or far from so], a request for Nog: if you could do a pretend ++Brin vote from the QT before saying it's actually ++whoever, that would make everybody's day. (unless it's actually Brin)
If it's not too much to ask, Noggie, can you do this with every QT vote until she joins us? :Merisu:

I'm also hoping to keep an eye on Lhuna. She's been raising alarm bells for me since end of Day 2
Genuinely curious, may I ask why? Mac, sally, and Leggie can attest (if they remember, that is) that I hate being evil and am always nervous and over-cautious when I am one. Except for this game. It was a relief to finally enjoy being a wolf, for the first time, but apparently evil Lhuna works better when she's nervous and guilty about being evil. :rolleyes:

Indeed. Anyways, did Lhuna just make a slip? The part Lommy quoted.
What was it?

10 posts per Day, max 280 characters each, each post can contain a single quote of no more than one sentence (not counted in length limit). Vote can be a separate post, not one of the 10, but most only contain your ++vote.

The setting: a Faithful hideout on Numenor during the height of the Dark Times. Everyone has to be quiet in case Sauron's priests hear.

hS, game theorist? Maybe not.
I would join this game - if you promise not to make me a baddie.

The original setting was my very first game, modded by Mac, but it was unusually the other way around: the "Wolves" were the good guys. It was "The Isle of the Were-Faithful". The former queen Tar-Míriel was the Cobbler.
I think I was there, but I totally can't remember. You know you've been gone from the Downs for far too long when.

Welcome to the dead side. We have cookies!
One of the reasons I wanted to get here as soon as I can.

You gifted revealed, like any cobbler would, and got lucky. Still think you'd have been more use to the wolves alive in the late game ... but why don't you ask them?
I had a chaos-inducing suicide plan that was anchored on the Cobbler being alive, but I'm not sure if that makes her getting lynched early a good thing or not. :p

Now we can finally figure out a proper way to integrate Prolonged QT Syndrome into this game.
Isn't the fact that we can talk Day and Night already a manifestation of this?

[Lhunardawen]

Quintuple posting, just because I can. :smokin:

[Lhunardawen]

The original setting was my very first game, modded by Mac, but it was unusually the other way around: the "Wolves" were the good guys. It was "The Isle of the Were-Faithful". The former queen Tar-Míriel was the Cobbler.
I think I was there, but I totally can't remember. You know you've been gone from the Downs for far too long when.
Nope, I wasn't there. :rolleyes:

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Welcome, Lhuna!


If I had known I would wake up and find myself here, I would have given my greeting to sally in person.
Well well, but imagine if you didn't. And now you also were the first :)

That being said: happy birthday, sally! Should we throw some party here?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/4f/2c/294f2c08f92ff1f237a81fb8d26bb1fa.jpg

Though to be fair, it should be the Infected posting this one, not me! But given how nicely I participated in lynching sally, I think I can consider myself qualified... :rolleyes:


What was it?
I think it was something in that whole discussion you and Lommy had about whether I would have dreamed of this or that if I were the Seer. I don't recall what this one thing was in particular, but I got the feeling that you were kind of writing as if you really actually considered I was the Seer (when, obviously, the moment I died it was clear I wasn't one).

Nope, I wasn't there.
Yeah, I thought not in that one. I remember you played in the first game I modded, which was incidentally also CoH-themed, "Werewolves Among The Wolf-Men", and there you were a Wolf, if I'm not mistaken.

[Lhunardawen]

Yeah, I thought not in that one. I remember you played in the first game I modded, which was incidentally also CoH-themed, "Werewolves Among The Wolf-Men", and there you were a Wolf, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, with Jay! For some reason, every now and then I still randomly remember "Androg stole Beleg's bow" (was that right?) in that game and have a little chuckle, even though I hardly recall its context.

[Huinesoron]

Though to be fair, it should be the Infected posting this one, not me! But given how nicely I participated in lynching sally, I think I can consider myself qualified... :rolleyes:

That's okay; you can be honorary Infected. All you have to do is vote with us. :D

hS

[Lhunardawen]

That's okay; you can be honorary Infected. All you have to do is vote with us. :D

hS

Seconded. :D

[Lhunardawen]

One can never have too much cake, plus here are cupcakes for everybody!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes, with Jay! For some reason, every now and then I still randomly remember "Androg stole Beleg's bow" (was that right?) in that game and have a little chuckle, even though I hardly recall its context.
Ooh yes! I rememeber! The point was that there was Beleg (=Ranger), but also Andróg, a sort of semi-Cobbler, or rather a person who was simply out for themselves, and who could target someone every Night and if they targeted Beleg, they took away his bow (Ranger powers) and got it for themselves.

...wait. Wasn't it so that Beleg and Andróg were Mac and Rikae? :eek: Now I remember...!

That's okay; you can be honorary Infected. All you have to do is vote with us. :D

hS
Nah, you are very kind, but I think I'll pass on that one!

[Lhunardawen]

...wait. Wasn't it so that Beleg and Andróg were Mac and Rikae? :eek: Now I remember...!
Yes, it was. :D

Nah, you are very kind, but I think I'll pass on that one!
Awwww. And we were getting along so well! *pouts*

[Rikae]

Yes, with Jay! For some reason, every now and then I still randomly remember "Androg stole Beleg's bow" (was that right?) in that game and have a little chuckle, even though I hardly recall its context.

I have a vague memory of that ... what was it?

...wait. Wasn't it so that Beleg and Andróg were Mac and Rikae? Now I remember...!

Oh yeah! :D

[Macalaure]

Also Mac, I saw what you did with the permutations. Thank you for noticing. :)

[satansaloser2005]

One can never have too much cake, plus here are cupcakes for everybody!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ghVBiD5zHCVUPvoyFuDWPd9CjEJnLFGIc0QMe1Y6YOMGLrWuVf B4BqJTO3E4iQth0-8pShQZnLQO-EX7Ntcm-f2Uk-QevKFDg1_9

I really wanted to be evil this game so I could make evil puns on my birthday, but this is even better! <3

Thanks, folks! :D

[satansaloser2005]

The mention of Aoife in a werewolf thread gives me bad flashbacks. :eek: Who among the presently dead were already around to play with Roa of old? Kitanna, Nog? She was scary good at this.

edit: MY EYEBALLS!

Oh yes, I remember Roa quite fondly as well! With all the people coming out of the woodwork for this game, I almost expected to see her, but alas, perhaps another time.

[Galadriel55]

I really wanted to be evil this game so I could make evil puns on my birthday, but this is even better! <3

Thanks, folks! :D

You can still make evil puns, sallycupcakes. :)

[Nogrod]

Oh yes, I remember Roa quite fondly as well! With all the people coming out of the woodwork for this game, I almost expected to see her, but alas, perhaps another time.
I actually thought of asking her to join via Messenger, but then thought that she'll join if she has time / feel for it.

She really is one of the "All Time Greats".

[Galadriel55]

I have to apologize to me lovely infectors for not being able to participate as much. The way my schedule works this week, I will be available just before the QT DL, but that means I'll have a lot to catch up to from the bulk of the Day. I am very happy that I died before my schedule changed. :D

[Lhunardawen]

I have to apologize to me lovely infectors for not being able to participate as much. The way my schedule works this week, I will be available just before the QT DL, but that means I'll have a lot to catch up to from the bulk of the Day. I am very happy that I died before my schedule changed. :D
Echoing whoever it was who said in the LT that too bad (xe might have said good thing, of course) you can't PM with us. :(

[Galadriel55]

Echoing whoever it was who said in the LT that too bad (xe might have said good thing, of course) you can't PM with us. :(

I am there in spirit :)

[Galadriel55]

Any bets on who will be joining us?

[Huinesoron]

Any bets on who will be joining us?

I can't even remember who's still healthy. I keep being surprised to see Mac in the QT.

Here's hoping for the Seer!

hS

[Nogrod]

Ten minutes... and counting. :)

[Nogrod]

Galadriel55 – Andróg, the Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1)

Rikae – Haldir, formerly healthy person (infected by the shady Infectors on Night2)

Huinesoron – Hareth, an Infector (voted into QT on Day2)

Kitanna – Huor, the Ranger (infected in the woods by the Infectors on Night3)

Sally – Túrin, the Hunter (voted into QT on Day3)

Macalaure – Grithnir, healthy person (dragged into the QT by the Hunter on Day3)

Legate of Amon Lanc – Asgon, healthy person (infected sneakily on Night4)

Lhunardawen – Sador, an Infector (voted into QT on Day4)

Lalaith – Rían, healthy person (overrun and infected by the Infectors on Night5)

[Galadriel55]

Welcome, Lalaith! I have to say, I am a liiiitle disappointed that neither you nor Urwen got the Child role. :p


Lommy will still be alive toMorrow. So will Boro.

Nailed it. :p

After every Night there comes a Day.

Aure entuluva!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Welcome, Lalaith - however sad a welcome that is!

But feel free to make yourself at home, such as it may be... and we'll be happy for any of your input. :)

Good thing is that we have a majority here, that the Seer is still alive, and there are three baddies down and only three to go *cracks knuckles menacingly*

[Nogrod]

Welcome, Lalaith! I have to say, I am a liiiitle disappointed that neither you nor Urwen got the Child role. :p
It clearly wasn't in the cards of the atmospheric noise...

Aure entuluva!
Or should we say: Lacho calad! Drego morn!

[Lalaith]

Hello everyone...a bit surprised to be here but hey...:Merisu:

[Nogrod]

Hello everyone...a bit surprised to be here but hey...:Merisu:
This is a nice place to be.

And in a day or two, this will be The Place to be. :)

[Huinesoron]

Hello everyone...a bit surprised to be here but hey...:Merisu:

You and everyone else except possibly Kit. :)

Welcome to the Infirmary. To update you, everyone's agreed to vote Brinniel today, so you may as well cast your vote now. :D

hS

[Lalaith]

So what's the deal? Are you lovely furries allowed to tell your packmates what's going down in the QT? :smokin:
Or is what goes in the QT, staying in the QT?

[Macalaure]

Welcome, Lalaith! :)

[Lalaith]

Hello all! And thank you for your wise guidance yesterday.

[Galadriel55]

So what's the deal? Are you lovely furries allowed to tell your packmates what's going down in the QT? :smokin:
Or is what goes in the QT, staying in the QT?

The QT is extremely exclusive. No peeks. :p

I see that Pitch has passed his 3000th post on this thread. I wish him hearty congratulations on the anniversary, and hope that no one posts such an overwhelming amount that we hit many more of these anniversaries. :p

[Huinesoron]

So what's the deal? Are you lovely furries allowed to tell your packmates what's going down in the QT? :smokin:
Or is what goes in the QT, staying in the QT?

While we would dearly love to, the CutieWolves have a separate night-chat. Night-and-day chat, actually - Nog has informed me that the 'round the clock QT' cuts both ways.

(I'm not sure this has been made explicit elsewhere? I would consider it cheating for us to Day-chat without you lot being aware that we were allowed to.)



I see that Pitch has passed his 3000th post on this thread. I wish him hearty congratulations on the anniversary, and hope that no one posts such an overwhelming amount that we hit many more of these anniversaries. :p

I think I hit 2K sometime yesterDay. This game is crazy. :)

hS

[Lhunardawen]

This is a nice place to be.

And in a day or two, this will be The Place to be. :)
I was here before being here became cool. I'm a hippie. :cool:

Welcome, Lalaith!

[Lhunardawen]

Had a peak at the GT. AAAAAHHH MASSIVE WALLS OF TEXT! I don't want to go back there anymore. *whimpers*

[Galadriel55]

I think I hit 2K sometime yesterDay. This game is crazy. :)

hS

So you did! Happy anniversary to you too! :D

[Nogrod]

While we would dearly love to, the CutieWolves have a separate night-chat. Night-and-day chat, actually - Nog has informed me that the 'round the clock QT' cuts both ways.

(I'm not sure this has been made explicit elsewhere? I would consider it cheating for us to Day-chat without you lot being aware that we were allowed to.)

I think I did inform about it both in the Discussion Thread and made the change in the official rules.

Infectors still in the GT and Infectors in the QT are not allowed to PM between them. The Infectors in the GT can PM among themselves by Nights, and the Infectors in the QT can PM among themselves whenever they wish (Nights and Days - as this Thread is open Nights and Days).

Just to make that clear to everyone.

[Lhunardawen]

Infectors in the QT can PM among themselves whenever they wish (Nights and Days - as this Thread is open Nights and Days).
Or, as Cobb55 put it, Prolonged QT. (Check for hypocalcemia.)

[Lhunardawen]

Look how she got away with self-voting on Day1 as a wolf in this game!

Aw Lommy, you give me too much credit. I don't think I've ever Nilped myself as a wolf (or as anything at all for that matter), and I only did so now because I couldn't convince Nilp himself to join the game. :p

[Galadriel55]

Aw Lommy, you give me too much credit. I don't think I've ever Nilped myself as a wolf (or as anything at all for that matter), and I only did so now because I couldn't convince Nilp himself to join the game. :p

I once started the game as a Seer with the words "I am the Seer". And that game actually had one of my best survival records (ie I lived past Day 2 :rolleyes:). I also started several games with the words "I am a wolf", regardless of my role. These are the legendary moments; take credit whether you deserve it or not. :D

[Galadriel55]

Or, as Cobb55 put it, Prolonged QT. (Check for hypocalcemia.)

Don't you try to feed us macrolides! No azythtomycin prophylaxis! Or the points we'll give you will not be of the kind you expect. :D

[Huinesoron]

I'm starting to feel like every other post among the living consists of "[Points vaguely at the rest of the village] I'd be amazed if there's not an Infector among them."

hS

[Lhunardawen]

They're all Infectors! Lynch them all!!!

++ENTIRE DOR-LÓMIN

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, so! What do y'all think of the situation?

General disclaimer - I will be around here and there, and I will be around the hour before DL, but I won't be up for any longer posts at that point as I shall be chiefly in transit and on my phone.

[Lhunardawen]

Well, so! What do y'all think of the situation?

Dire. Dire, I say. There will not be enough room for us all ere this is over. Perhaps Brethil has a hall or tent among its trees that we can use as another quarantine shed?

[Huinesoron]

The QT can whack my head for saying "we should coordinate something with the qt" repeatedly, yet taking no initiative on that.

I think it's clear that the Cuties will have to take the initiative on coordinating. I suggest letting the living know who you trust most by voting for your most innocent take. :D

hS

[Lalaith]

Well thank you Nog for making this Hall so comfortable and cosy, (and indeed for modding this game so superbly) and thank you all for providing me with such amusing reading matter!
When I said I was surprised to be QTed I meant it. By the end of YesterDay I thought Boro was the Seer and was fully expecting the wolves to think so too, and that he would be the one to wake up in the halls of Hurin.
Then I come here and find that Mac had cleverly come to this conclusion long before and hence the QT vote for Lhuna.
So, toDay I was going to suggest that we followed Boro's lead and go for Eonwe. But now I am confused by his latest post. What do you all think?

Also FWIW I think the innocent child is Lottie.

[Lhunardawen]

Come now, Innocuties, let us know how you're planning to vote. I don't have all Day. ;)

(Local time check: 9:07 PM)

[Lalaith]

Btw to explain my own thinking (it's quite fun to see it being analysed over on the GT!)
I said at one point that I think I am better at spotting innocents than wolves. This is quite true, and its one of the reasons I get flustered by lynches - I am never sure if we have the right person. WHen in doubt, I look at what the people I've identified as trustworthy are doing. This strategy seems to have worked a bit too well in this game (I mean that it seems to have got me killed. Of course I'm pleased that I helped to kill both the wolves - with apologies to the present company :Merisu:)

[Huinesoron]

(Of course I'm pleased that I helped to kill both the wolves - with apologies to the present company :Merisu:)

https://i.imgur.com/6CB3EPA.jpg

I'm just having a little lie down! :D

hS

[Huinesoron]

Btw to explain my own thinking (it's quite fun to see it being analysed over on the GT!)

It's been great fun watching people debate the deep inner meaning of my votes as part of some grand strategy. Ha!

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

So, toDay I was going to suggest that we followed Boro's lead and go for Eonwe. But now I am confused by his latest post. What do you all think?
Along the same lines. I have been thinking absolutely innocentish about Rune, but it may have clouded my judgment, and it's true he did not stand out at all. Question being what is Boro really saying here. If Boro-seer (?) dreamed of anyone, I could imagine him going after submarines.

Then there are many other conspiracy theories one could throw forward. I think the WWs may distance themselves from each other nowadays a bit more and tiptoe. Problem is that in a village this size, we're also reaching the point where everyone would have suspected everyone at some point in the game - and that makes stuff much less clear.

That also makes current posts much more important, but the village is posting a bit too much and a bit too little for my taste at the same time. Too much often to have to read through very long posts, but too little because there isn't really much of a constructive discussion happening.


Also FWIW I think the innocent child is Lottie.

Nothing against that possibility, I think. I suspected her heavily at one point, but to be fair, it stopped later because of something I considered rather clear, sadly I don't recall half of what I thought back then.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Also what do you think Boro is saying here? Is he simply saying "I want to vote Rune", or is there some more-layered message in there?

I also like it how on Day 1, everyone was "Legate, what kind of nonsense are you talking about here! What pre-votes! It doesn't make any sense!"

And toDay (while I had given up on that idea ages ago) everyone and their dog seems to be doing it... :rolleyes:

[Kitanna]

And toDay (while I had given up on that idea ages ago) everyone and their dog seems to be doing it... :rolleyes:
Seriously. Though I think part of their issue with your suggestion was a lot of people thought you meant there would be a fake vote and no real vote. *shrug*
I dunno. I'm trying to skim through everything. I forgot Day started. :rolleyes:

https://i.redd.it/to3v225w8nlz.jpg

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Seriously. Though I think part of their issue with your suggestion was a lot of people thought you meant there would be a fake vote and no real vote. *shrug*
I dunno. I'm trying to skim through everything. I forgot Day started. :rolleyes:


Absolutely could be. But even those who got it weren't very enthusiastic (apart from a few exceptions).
But let us know once you've caught up :)

For the record, since it seems to be a thing, "fake votes" toDay thus far:

Boro->Rune
Lommy->Eönwë (with THE Ka and Zil as B-options)
Greenie->Zil (with "THE Ka a strong runner up. I wouldn't actively mind Eonwe, Shasta, Brinn or Kath either.)*
Zil->Brinn
Rune->Zil (secondary being Brinn and Eönwë)


*This is what she has been doing the entire game!!!!! "I could vote for X, but also for Y,Z,A,B...up to W, actually". I seriously can't.)

This tells me that Zil could be lynched toDay without our involvement. If Rune is a Wolf, then it seems like he might be operating with the assumption that it would be a bandwagon to jump on.

Good thing about these votes is that now people can perceive how their voting changes based on what happened if they are forced to pick someone else from their options. (Which was the point of why I was originally arguing for doing that.)

[Rikae]

I definitely think Boro would like us to vote for Rune. Meanwhile he seems to be backing off Steve and though he puts Inzil down as suspicious he leaves him alone for now ... well, if I were a seer trying to find wolves by process of elimination I'd go after the quiet ones first too.

Two other possibilities, Boro is a very insightful ordo or a wolf, but we could trust the real seer to have checked him by now. Although I do feel like he's getting Rune by process of elimination, and not a direct dream, and I kinda hate to vote for someone who's looked very innocent to me all along (Rune, if you're a wolf, excellent work just creating a vague warm fuzzy aura around yourself) but ... yeah, I think it's best to vote for Rune and continue this game with Boro.

A couple other things of note:
- now Rune is buttering Greenie up. Mmm, buttered Mac n' Green! Why is he doing that?

- Why is Pitch questioning Boro so pointedly out in the open like that? There are a few explanations and I don't like any of them.

[Rikae]

Also, if Mac is right about Lommy and Brinn, then Shasta's psychic abilities are conspicuously absent - except when it comes to me and G55. It might not be fair, but after seeing him in action in many a game, this makes me suspicious of Shasta.

[Lalaith]

Why is Pitch questioning Boro so pointedly out in the open like that?
Yes I noticed that too.
To be fair, I did pose the question to Boro originally. (About how he knew, as he seemed to be claiming, that both Gal and Brinn were innocent on Day 1) But that was before I started to suspect he might be the Seer.
But Pitch (unless he knows different because *he* is the Seer?) should know better than to push that toDay given the seerish vibes Boro gave off at DL. By that I mean, putting that last-minute vote in for Eonwe at DL (which I read as a "if I die in the Night this is who to vote for" message)
Which is why I don't understand why he is backing off and hinting at Rune.
FWIW one of the reasons I feel so puzzled is that I think Rune is innocent.

[Lalaith]

Another worry: if we keep following Boro's suggestions, that's basically saying: "QT think Boro is the Seer"

[Lalaith]

Oh and I know I said I was no good at wolf-spotting but I do still think Eonwe is a wolf.

[Rikae]

Another worry: if we keep following Boro's suggestions, that's basically saying: "QT think Boro is the Seer"

Yes, but for whatever reason Boro doesn't seem worried about that. I'm surprised he's still alive toDay, and I think he's working to throw the wolves off his trail.

Also, it tells Boro we think he's the seer, which gives him more leverage without actually revealing . Our vote carries some weight at this point, for sure. His days are no doubt numbered but hopefully we can make sure they count and the village doesn't go too far astray. Ugh, that's punny ... I'll leave it.

[Macalaure]

I don't necessarily feel like Boro dreamed of Rune either. He might be out of known wolves and just gave us his main unknown suspect.

Nobody else among the living is going for him either, so we would again make Boro stick out somewhat if we go for Rune, with our chances of hitting a wolf possibly being only so-so.

After being suspicious of Loslote yesterDay, he has backed off of her toDay, in #1073 even complimenting a point of hers. Did he dream of her and, to his own surprise, found her innocent?

We had a considerable amount of influence on the voting yesterDay, and with the wolves aware of that, I daresay they are not going to put any wolf-on-wolf stuff into their plusminuses.

Boro for Rune
Lommy for Eonwe, Ka, or Inzil
Greenie for Inzil
Inzil for Brinn
Rune for Inzil

We should trust Boro's suspicion at least so far as to not follow Rune's suggestion. I'm suspicious of Greenie in addition, so I really don't want to go for Inzil toDay.

Following Boro we can trust Lommy, so if we want to avoid picking Rune, then Eonwe or THE Ka could be options for us. The point Boro picked up from Loslote was against Ka, while he's backed off of Eonwe. We would take the focus off him until we get a clearer message, while still providing a meaningful vote.

I hope Boro gets to tell us about his close looks at Ka, Kath, and Greenie before we have to vote.

So what do you guys think about a vote for THE Ka at the moment?

[Lalaith]

So what do you guys think about a vote for THE Ka at the moment?

Possibly. Why her rather than Eonwe?

[Rikae]

THE Ka was the first to follow our vote yesterday, and her reasons looked manufactured. I think she spotted Boro's seerishness and followed his lead. I'm definitely not voting for her.

In fact I really think any vote aside from Rune is likely to backfire badly. We have more power scheming with a seer or even faux-seer than we do just voting like an extra village whose votes carry less weight (*shakes fist at electoral college*).

Let's not outsmart ourselves here. Boro knows he's going to attract attention. Suggesting we vote Rune could even *be* his cover: Rune isn't that likely to be lynched as it stands.

[Rikae]

After all, if the wolves think we erroneously think he's the seer, they'll likely want to keep him around.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I'm mostly on the boat with what y'all said here. I have been also thinking about Ka. She's kinda in a similar boat where Lhuna was for me. I just hope that with our luck, she isn't the Child or something.

I have been suspicious of Steve since forever, but he could be of course something else. And Shasta has been a horrible submarine of the worst kind. Still, the main problem with all three of these (the middle one maybe the most) is that I have very little actual suspicious points, or, there's a lot that could be either-or.

But I'm up for any of them. Or even following Boro's idea. But the question whether it wouldn't pull too much attention to him is valid. I'm still surprise tho that it hasn't already. So who knows.

(Been thinking otherwise - if there's some terrifying conspiracy and Boro is still a Wolf who bussed Lhuna to make himself live forever, obviously there would come a moment when the real Seer wouldn't let it stand, plus, it's still a long way till the numbers in the village are in such balance that it would be a problem.)

EDIT: X-ed with Rik

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Let's not outsmart ourselves here. Boro knows he's going to attract attention. Suggesting we vote Rune could even *be* his cover: Rune isn't that likely to be lynched as it stands.

Actually very clever points overall. Yeah... I think I could go with that.

[Macalaure]

THE Ka was the first to follow our vote yesterday, and her reasons looked manufactured. I think she spotted Boro's seerishness and followed his lead. I'm definitely not voting for her.
Point taken.

And I also see the point that picking anybody else at this point is just as much a shot in the dark as a living vote is.

But there's also a wicked part of me that feels like messing with Boro. :p

[Galadriel55]

Point taken.

And I also see the point that picking anybody else at this point is just as much a shot in the dark as a living vote is.

But there's also a wicked part of me that feels like messing with Boro. :p

Cobblerism is contagious. :p

If you were to mess with Boro, would it be +-Eonwe? Or Ka?

[Huinesoron]

But there's also a wicked part of me that feels like messing with Boro. :p

https://i.imgur.com/8LFdBGV.png

(Someone do tell me if I'm breaking any Downs rules about too many non-Tolkien images. I can't see one anywhere, but...)

hS

[Lalaith]

Rune isn't that likely to be lynched as it stands.

Just to clarify: do you want Rune lynched?
Because after following the QT lead worked so well for innocents yesterDay we need to beware our power...

[Galadriel55]

(Someone do tell me if I'm breaking any Downs rules about too many non-Tolkien images. I can't see one anywhere, but...)

hS

All is fair in love and werewolf. ;)

[satansaloser2005]

Have been reading a bit. Will be back in about 45 and will stick around until our DL.

[Macalaure]

I mean it would be hilarious to see his reaction to seeing a QT vote of ++Boromir88.

[Huinesoron]

I mean it would be hilarious to see his reaction to seeing a QT vote of ++Boromir88.

I agree let's do it.

++BOROMIR88

(What? If we can confuse enough of you it might even go through!)

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Also for future reference:

Boro->Rune
Lommy->Eönwë (with THE Ka and Zil as B-options)
Greenie->Zil (with "THE Ka a strong runner up. I wouldn't actively mind Eonwe, Shasta, Brinn or Kath either.")
Zil->Brinn
Rune->Zil (secondary being Brinn and Eönwë)
Lottie -> Ka and Zil (equally)
Kath ->Zil and Eönwë
THE Ka->Shasta

[Rikae]

Just to clarify: do you want Rune lynched?
Because after following the QT lead worked so well for innocents yesterDay we need to beware our power...

I think if Boro actually wants him lynched he'll try to keep the ball rolling, and if he doesn't, he'll try to redirect it. If I'm right about Ka, maybe some others looking at him as a possible seer, he may be able to.

But if we go for someone already under a lot of suspicion we'll seal their face, which seems too risky.

And because I can just imagine Boro's frustration if he's made a lovely plan and we mess it up trying to protect him! So,. I've convinced myself:

++Rune

Edit: fixing autocorrect

[Lalaith]

we'll seal their face,

that sounds :eek:
I thought we were the good guys?

:)

Ok I'm a newbie here so I'll do what I'm told - I'll just wait to see if the rest of the A team agree.

[Lalaith]

Btw I remember Roa too. She was formidable.

I had a misadventurous session as Seer in Lommy's Werepenguin game. I dreamed Boro the first night, and got sent a hilarious picture of a Rockhopper...anyway I got overexicted and tried to go after Boro straight away, he turned the lynch-mob around on me so I had to out myself. Roa stood beside me like a furious mother dragon at deadline, absolutely incandescent with rage at the village who had tried to lynch their seer - it was scary but strangely comforting.

[Rikae]

that sounds :eek:
I thought we were the good guys?

:)

Ok I'm a newbie here so I'll do what I'm told - I'll just wait to see if the rest of the A team agree.

Looks like autocorrect won after all. :rolleyes:

[Huinesoron]

I mean the extremes are posting nonsense all Day and Night (in which case the innocents there do not know much)...

Oh Lommy, how well you know me. :D

hS

[Lalaith]

I'm going to have to peel off in about 5 minutes and won't be back for our QT deadline. Is everyone ok with ++Rune?

[Kitanna]

I'm going to have to peel off in about 5 minutes and won't be back for our QT deadline. Is everyone ok with ++Rune?
I'm going to vote that way. I haven't been able to do more than skim, but seeing Rikae vote that way and Boro who seems pretty trustworthy (so far...) hint that way, seems like a good bet.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I'm going to have to peel off in about 5 minutes and won't be back for our QT deadline. Is everyone ok with ++Rune?

Short version - basically okay.

[Kitanna]

I forgot to do my actual vote last post :rolleyes: This day, geez

++Rune

[Lalaith]

++ Rune

Ok, I'll do what I'm told. I do think he's innocent though.:cool:

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Like, if Boro's been trying to hint us something else than that we should vote him, he did a bad job of making it clear.

Occurred to me now in the last moment that maybe he intended a two-way communication, i.e. "I suspect Rune, you check him yourselves and if your collective intelligence agrees with me, send me back a 'yes', if not, vote someone else" - but to be fair, a bit late for that. (Also yesterDay it worked totally differently.)

Anyway we can see.

[Kitanna]

++ Rune

Ok, I'll do what I'm told. I do think he's innocent though.:cool:

Really? If you have time to elaborate later on why, I'm curious.
I haven't gotten a read on him at all. Which, makes me immediately suspicious at this point. To be this far in and not having any opinion worries me. But again, I've only skimmed toDay, I'm probably missing something.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I thought him innocent originally. But hey. In any case, it will at least get some discussion started about him. Which - even if we imagine that he was innocent - would force the Wolves to also express their opinions on him and they can either be caught suddenly jumping at him or defending him or need to interact with him if he's their packmate or whatever.

[Huinesoron]

Come on, Team Evil, they've only got three votes on Rune! We could still swing this!

hS

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

On the note of further spamming, now I did a really quick run-through of Rune and there's that, his super-independent voting behaviour plus the fact that he did not much interact with any of our resident Wolves. Greenie mentioned earlier in the thread that he's possible packmate for Hui but unlikely one for Lhuna because Lhuna undermined the likelihood of him being innocent based on my death, which did not make much sense, but perhaps exactly that was the way to safely distance oneself from a fellow... perhaps Lhuna could tell us something about that? :p

Note that this is all rather a justification afterwards for why to vote him than picking up reasons beforehand and then deciding to vote him based on that.

Since Boro's back, I'm waiting for some last-minute wisdom from him (but not that it matters now).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Also, apparently we are "GT thread" now. Cheers!

https://www.thespruceeats.com/thmb/8rtDjB-YdRW-RLVCEckIl6uoof8=/960x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/gin-tonic-5a8f334b8e1b6e0036a9631d.jpg

[Nogrod]

Also, apparently we are "GT thread" now. Cheers!

Let's not sport with Swapping Threads! :eek::D

[Galadriel55]

Come on, Team Evil, they've only got three votes on Rune! We could still swing this!

Your wish is my command!

++Boro


Also for reasons of being absolutely behind on GT shenanigans.

;)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

++Karl Marx... I mean, Rune

Let's see what becomes of it.

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry, I lost track of time.

++Rune

Just for a unified stance.

[Macalaure]

*rushes in*

++Borom... *cough*

++Rune Son of Bjarne

[Lhunardawen]

perhaps Lhuna could tell us something about that? :p

:Merisu:



++BOROMIR88

Hey if I couldn't get him on the other side, I could at least do so (in principle) here.



Also I wish people would stop using [name of Downer]-alysis: it conjures images of the said Downer spontaneously bursting. :eek:

[Kitanna]

I enjoy the confusion the QT vote has sowed (sown, sowned...) on the GT. It is delightfully fun to watch.

[Lhunardawen]

Dang. How likely is it that Lhuna decided this vote?

I wish. :rolleyes: Grumble grumble.

[Huinesoron]

Dang. How likely is it that Lhuna decided this vote?

If the final TWO MINUTES had gone differently... :(

hS

(Crossed with... hah, Lhuna)

[Lhunardawen]

Only if the dead innocents made a mess, basically.
*snorts* Again, I wish. :rolleyes:

[Macalaure]

So, for the QT my proposted vote...

+-Rune

Fascinating...

Hmm, well maybe I can do a look through Rune. Yesterday I was already suspicious of Lhuna. Maybe just a knock on our head saying Rune's been passed over/fallen off the side of the road lately, should get discussing him.

It would take a lot more than the QT vote today to get me seriously considering Rune.

Interesting.

Wondering where he is going with this.

[Rikae]

Fascinating...

Hmm, well maybe I can do a look through Rune. Yesterday I was already suspicious of Lhuna. Maybe just a knock on our head saying Rune's been passed over/fallen off the side of the road lately, should get discussing him.

It would take a lot more than the QT vote today to get me seriously considering Rune.

Hm. Either I was right (or testing us?) Or maybe he's doing two-way communication as Legate suggested .. maybe taking our vote as a dream-suggestion?

[Huinesoron]

It must have read : D as an all uppercase post. During the Sally deadline, I responded to a post where she said she was going to hunt me with "DON'T." and it autocorrected it to "don't.", so I think all caps isn't allowed.

Oh, that makes sense! The filter doesn't look at quotes. Would also explain why it doesn't affect me.

V
V
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hS

[Galadriel55]

Then again, I wonder whether calling him Rune Son of Bjarne, Son of Marx might indicate that the final vote was Legate's, as he has referred to Rune and Kath as Marx and Kant a few times. Though I guess it might also be a joke from Nog.

Legate, you're caught. :p

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Legate, you're caught. :p

Meta-caught. But hey, whatever rocks their boat.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

So this might go completely opposite of what I've been championing for with the QT for days. But I do want to put a reminder that we still have the living seer, so while this is an unexpected choice for the QT, they have no known evidence to Rune's guilt or innocence. Same applied to Lhuna yesterday.

It might turn up beneficial/we find out more from it tomorrow, but for today, it's too much of a turnaround to make in 2 hours.
Okay, so what was he trying to say?

I mean what's the post above even supposed to mean? Am I reading the sentence correctly if I read it as "Dead, you messed up my plan"? Or?

Also if yes, then what? Did he want us to vote something else so we would cover for his Seerishness? If yes, he did a terrible job of it.

Can I also say that he's been posting horribly unclear and weird, sort of complicated posts since the beginning? I hope he isn't posting any coded message. Has anyone tried to read, say, the first letters of each of his posts or some nonsense like that? I may look at that.

Or how are you reading this? Or is it okay and now he's distancing himself from the stuff? Or what? Or did he want us to send him a Seer pick? No? (But that would be a stupid thing to ask. He should figure it out himself.)

I'm curious what in the name of all the grandchildren of Finwë is this supposed to mean.

In the hands of the innocent dead, I can't see any of the evil-doers being careless. I don't know Huey that well, but G55 and Lhuna are probably having a blast posting nonsense, not at all related to anything that's going on here.

He's got you lot figured out tho :p

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Also: looked through Boro's posts for some obvious stuff and also his early posts for some announcement of strategy and found zip, nil, nada.

And now Rune made a post titled "The Last Will And Testament" and that makes me somewhat worried. I seriously hope he isn't the Seer :eek: But if he is and Boro knew it, then he did abysmal job of alerting us to that.

Though taking recent events into consideration I would like to stress that an innocent QT thread is clearly quite capable of mistakes.

There. But I mean that means nothing, he would likely say the same also as Wolf.

Anyways, the good side certainly being that the discussion on the thread got rolling. That can't be denied. The Day was rather sleepy otherwise, it seemed to me.

[Rikae]

Why would we "trust our gifteds" when they aren't seers? Why would we screw up the vote so badly as to let the baddies break a tie?

*facepalm*

I don't care what Boro wants, tomorrow I'm voting for one of these people who seems to think the virus is eating our brains.

[Rikae]

I think he's distancing himself like I expected him to. I'm thinking he wanted the effect of a QT Rune vote, rather than wanting Rune lynched toDay. Hope I'm right, though.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I think he's distancing himself like I expected him to. I'm thinking he wanted the effect of a QT Rune vote, rather than wanting Rune lynched toDay. Hope I'm right, though.

That's what I thought too and hope that it will have a positive effect and won't result in some nonsense mess.

Let's see what tomorrow brings.

[Galadriel55]

He's got you lot figured out tho :p

:D

There is another trick we could pull. For instance, we could discuss Wilson's disease of the groin that results in alopecia only in the circumstance where ANA manifests as the classic combination of cerebellar intention tremor and CNS dysesthesia, and whether monoclonal antibodies would be of any help in that situation. :p

[satansaloser2005]

My prince is indeed being ever so bizarre.

:rolleyes:

[Galadriel55]

Half an hour to go. Bets on how many votes will come in the last 5 minutes? :D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Half an hour to go. Bets on how many votes will come in the last 5 minutes? :D

https://i.imgflip.com/41budn.jpg

[Galadriel55]

And it's between 2 people again. Why is it that three-way bandwagons are so rare? Especially since there is usually a range of people to choose from in the beginning.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

But nope. Turns out people are avoiding last-minute thing. Well whatever happens, this will be close.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

And it's between 2 people again. Why is it that three-way bandwagons are so rare? Especially since there is usually a range of people to choose from in the beginning.

I think it always starts to snowball once it becomes "clear" that two people are ahead of others. Something to consider for election sociologists/crowd psychologists/whatever. Who probably have lots of existing theories and working models on this.

Anyways, I think we can slowly get ready to welcoming our new guest, which, if I'm not mistaken, is going to be Zil. Most. Curious.

[Galadriel55]

Is there beer in the QT? If so, all is well.

I hear there's gin and tonic. :D