View Full Version : Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, Quarantine Thread
Nogrod
05-04-2020, 03:32 PM
This is the Quarantine Thread aka. QT aka. Cutie
PEOPLE STILL "ALIVE" IN THE "Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin" Game Thread, PLEASE DO NOT CONTINUE READING ANY FURTHER!
THIS IS OUT OF BOUNDS FOR YOU.
The Thread will open on the 6th of May at 9PM GMT/UTC - to those lucky persons who are out of the Game Thread of "Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin" on the morning of D2.
Nogrod
05-06-2020, 03:00 PM
You are in the Great Hall of Húrin with all the household items and heirlooms; reserves of ale and wine, and a state of the art kitchen; a nice great fireplace and the great banqueting table; hides, furs, carpets, cushions, quilts of all sort... So you should feel yourselves comfortable.
Blind Ragnir has promised to bring you fresh water from the window twice a Day and once for the Night and the nurse will bring you some soothing herbs and clean towels in change for used ones. Húrin himself will come to ask your opinion once a Day, two hours before the sunset.
So feel free to discuss everyDay among yourselves as to whom to give the “infirmary vote”, for Hareth had insisted, that also the sick ones should have voice in these matters. No one knows how happy the brothers were giving a vote to someone like Andróg, but one just didn’t oppose one’s mother is public. And surely that would be wisdom in the long run.
~*~
In case of a tie, the latest person voted for quarantine has the decisive vote (no new votes will be cast in case of a tie). In case of there being none involved in a tie who was voted into quarantine, then the latest (involved) incomer in general will make the call.
Discussion is limited to Daytime only. You also must sleep at Nights. Well, you especially need to sleep, as many of you are actually sick.
~*~
Members of the Quarantine Thread
Galadriel 55, Andróg, the Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1)
Rikae, Haldir, formerly healthy person (infected by the shady Infectors on Night2)
Against all odds the Mod wishes you a good Day.
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 03:54 PM
*rolling in the grave laughing*
Rikae - sorry, but also not sorry. :Merisu: I didn't plan to butt heads with you, but your reaction was the most convenient.
Rikae
05-06-2020, 03:59 PM
Well, this is less fun than it sounded. I get the joy of watching people talk about me and being unable to answer them, when normally I'd just stop following the game at this point.
At least I have the comfort of knowing the person who made me lose my temper when I set out not to do so was actively trying to.
Which means this is just Sally being Sally:
That's what I assumed as well. I saw Rikae as a defensive wolf during the Night, but obviously I was wrong, so I suspect the wolves saw Rikae as a defensive gifted. After all, Rikae's temper tends to be more fiery when given a special role.
Didn't vote yesterDay: Lal. I wonder if she knows the game has started. :eek:
Weird votes yesterDay (Gal notwithstanding): Steve. What the frell? Also Green, which was another throwaway and strikes me as odd.
So, her insulting opinion of me (that my temper is worse when I have a special role) led her astray - not for the first time, if I remember correctly - but she still has to air it. Ugh.
Nothing for it, if I have the double vote today, I have to follow this ... ugh ...
Rikae
05-06-2020, 03:59 PM
Is nausea a symptom? What about wanting to bash one's head into a wall?
Rikae
05-06-2020, 04:02 PM
*rolling in the grave laughing*
Rikae - sorry, but also not sorry. :Merisu: I didn't plan to butt heads with you, but your reaction was the most convenient.
Not going to talk to you in here. No reason to.
Rikae
05-06-2020, 04:03 PM
Anything I say is to myself or the future dead.
*grumble*
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:11 PM
Is nausea a symptom? What about wanting to bash one's head into a wall?
Clearly viral encephalopathy. :p
Actually, regardless of content, I wanna reach 2 pages of posts before Half-Day, just to make the GT wonder what the Angband is happening here.
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:11 PM
Post. Post post.
Post post post, post post, post post post post.
Post post?
Rikae
05-06-2020, 04:12 PM
Clearly viral encephalopathy. :p
Actually, regardless of content, I wanna reach 2 pages of posts before Half-Day, just to make the GT wonder what the Angband is happening here.
You know, I can get on board with that, even if you are a cobbler.
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:13 PM
You know, I can get on board with that, even if you are a cobbler.
See? We can find common ground. ;)
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:16 PM
Oh frell.
I think this was my favourite reaction to read. Also, expanding my vocabulary. :p
Rikae
05-06-2020, 04:17 PM
They're not going to ask the mod, are they? They're going to argue back and forth with no real info all day and it's never going to occur to anyone to ask Nog.
https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/facepalm.gif
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:20 PM
They're not going to ask the mod, are they? They're going to argue back and forth with no real info all day and it's never going to occur to anyone to ask Nog.
They are doing my job without me! :D Meanwhile, when I asked rule-related questions to the general public, Nog very helpfully answered all but one right away. No fat fish on that rod. :D
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:29 PM
A post of no consequence, merely to add to the post count.
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:31 PM
Oh I'd so love to be a fly on the wall of the QT now.
So I'm wondering what Pitch is imagining would happen here. Mind, this is before we started posting at all. Is he expecting us to keep squabbling? :p
Nogrod
05-06-2020, 04:57 PM
Meanwhile, when I asked rule-related questions to the general public, Nog very helpfully answered all but one right away. No fat fish on that rod. :D
I did answer them - as soon as I found out there was quandary over the matter.
I mean, let people discuss on the issues rather than the rules. (I can see a Cobbler might disagree. :))
I kind of like the idea of you two hyper-posting and making the people in the Game-Thread super-curious. Let's just hope they can then hold on to their horses and resist the temptation to peek in. :rolleyes:
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 04:59 PM
I did answer them - as soon as I found out there was quandary over the matter.
I mean, let people discuss on the issues rather than the rules. (I can see a Cobbler might disagree. :))
I kind of like the idea of you two hyper-posting and making the people in the Game-Thread super-curious. Let's just hope they can then hold on to their horses and resist the temptation to peek in. :rolleyes:
Hey, I'm not holding that against you, I never meant it that way. I'm just teasing because it was a shot of mine that went wild. It only does you credit as a Mod to answer all of the questions so promptly (for the most part). :)
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 05:03 PM
So, I was thinking - Rikae, what do you say about collaborating a vote? I have to say, my main motivation is that people will assume it's my vote, but if I have nothing against your vote I might abstain and then yours will go through. And I would just love people asking why I voted that. If we drastically disagree, I still have the advantage and will use it, but it would be such a nice plot twist for all those who seem to think we're clawing each other eyes out here.
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 05:05 PM
Legate is correct here on both claims (disclaimer to the second point: unless G55 and Rikae agree on a vote...).
Ah, I see Nog has already thought of that on the game thread. :D So they have officially had due warning. :p
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 05:09 PM
I think I am gonna take a page out of Pervinca's book and 'disappear'.
Should we call Urwen the AntiCobbler? :D
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 05:19 PM
We're more than halfway through spamming Page 1! :D I had 23 posts on the GT, and that was with actual content (well, mostly). See if I can't beat that before I go to bed. :p
Rikae
05-06-2020, 06:18 PM
I kind of like the idea of you two hyper-posting and making the people in the Game-Thread super-curious. Let's just hope they can then hold on to their horses and resist the temptation to peek in. :rolleyes:
Aye aye, Captain.
I've just been attempting to fix my phone, failing miserably, and giving up when I realized I was possibly about to electrocute myself. I'm not dead yet. I don't want to go in the cart! A new phone is now in the mail.
Rikae
05-06-2020, 06:19 PM
So, I was thinking - Rikae, what do you say about collaborating a vote? I have to say, my main motivation is that people will assume it's my vote, but if I have nothing against your vote I might abstain and then yours will go through. And I would just love people asking why I voted that. If we drastically disagree, I still have the advantage and will use it, but it would be such a nice plot twist for all those who seem to think we're clawing each other eyes out here.
Perhaps. After all, you don't know any more than I do.
Rikae
05-06-2020, 06:31 PM
Just gonna analyze because there will be meaningful votes down the road in here.
I don't think Brinn's innocence is proven by any means, but I do think that the vote patterns look (to me at least) very much like wolves choosing between two "innocents". I also think that the wolves would probably have rather lynched Brinn over G55, assuming neither was a packmate.
That makes no sense at all. The wolves would certainly look less suspicious lynching the noisy, controversial one than the quiet one.
I don't think they were trying to "orchestrate an innocent lynch" - I think, based on the overall tone of the late voters, that it came down to two options, neither of whom was a wolf. No one felt like a wolf nervously trying to avoid lynching a packmate without overtly defending them, or anything like that.
So, you're saying your own attempts to save Brinn don't look wolfish, Lottie?
Rikae
05-06-2020, 06:56 PM
The Ka is giving me credit for being smarter than I am now ... :D
I didn't think you were the cobbler specifically, G55, I just thought your behavior looked too risky for a wolf! I was leaning "passionate innocent who thinks they've caught a wolf".
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 07:45 PM
Perhaps. After all, you don't know any more than I do.
I feel more strongly about some players than others. Once we have a better idea of potential lynchables, we should give this another thought.
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 07:52 PM
The Ka is giving me credit for being smarter than I am now ... :D
I didn't think you were the cobbler specifically, G55, I just thought your behavior looked too risky for a wolf! I was leaning "passionate innocent who thinks they've caught a wolf".
They are giving me both more and less credit too. Mac is certainly giving me more, with the "she's spotted a Seer and a Wolf and tried to change the lynch!". However, they would have found some interesting things among my posts had they looked at them closer. Of course, that would come at the cost of more direct wolf-hunting. :)
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 07:54 PM
[Kath] Points out G55 calling Legate's jumping on the idea "cobbler much," which in hindsight is funny.
:Merisu:
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 08:40 PM
Brinniel talks like she's on a sedative.
Boro talks like he's on a stimulant.
Not very helpful, is it? :rolleyes:
Rikae
05-06-2020, 08:42 PM
I wonder whether they'll notice the post count here anytime soon.
Rikae
05-06-2020, 08:43 PM
Hm, let's get to 10% of what they have.
Rikae
05-06-2020, 08:44 PM
Almost there.
Rikae
05-06-2020, 08:45 PM
*crash*
A lamp flies across the room untouched by living hands.
Oh wait, I'm sick, not dead. And you're sick now too, I reckon, with me talking at you and all.
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 08:49 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c119da6682763733cc06f2af0ea637c7/tenor.gif?itemid=3559613
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 08:50 PM
I almost feel like they were more interested in us before we started spam-posting. :rolleyes:
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 09:35 PM
Before I go to bed...
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 09:36 PM
...a final effort...
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 09:36 PM
... to kick us...
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 09:37 PM
...onto the second page!
Galadriel55
05-06-2020, 09:37 PM
Good night. :)
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 07:40 AM
One thing I'm wondering about is the very very late timing of the G55 reveal. The options, at increasing levels of bluff, seem to be:
She was trying to get an innocent Brinn killed.
She wanted us to believe (1), but actually thought Brinn was an Infector and knew it was too late.
She wanted us to believe (2), but actually thought that Brinn was innocent and wants us to suspect her by assuming (2) is true.
He is clever, that one! ;) Though I would put a (4). :p I have to say, for all the talk of "we're gonna ignore G55", there have been quite a few musings thrown around.
Rikae
05-07-2020, 08:53 AM
A little bit of Cobbler55 ...
Well, we agreed on her yesterday, so what do you say to:
++Brinn
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 09:04 AM
A little bit of Cobbler55 ...
Well, we agreed on her yesterday, so what do you say to:
++Brinn
See, I rather like the village stewing about her, regardless of her role. She would not be my first pick if I had to choose from the list. However, then people will say "Cob55 *did* think she was innocent, I was right about yesterDay!", and start wondering what the blazes I am thinking now, which I would also rather like.
You know what? If she's not under too much pressure at the time of the vote, we can make this happen. ;)
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 09:06 AM
First, the quote within the quote within the quote, what a formatting nightmare. Second, I was just going to ignore Inzil and hope no one else brought it up. But I knew G55 was a Liar McLiarFace with her pants set ablaze.
*dances in the pants set ablaze cackling*
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 09:12 AM
Holy guacamole! They post so much. By thw time I am halfway through an analysis post I forget who the poster is.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 09:20 AM
I would laugh so hard if both Mac and Brin are wolves, fighting over who you, Rikae, were supposed to have dreamed. :D
Rikae
05-07-2020, 09:37 AM
Rikae does love traps.
Oh dear. I feel dirty for how I read that. :eek:
Rikae
05-07-2020, 09:38 AM
I would laugh so hard if both Mac and Brin are wolves, fighting over who you, Rikae, were supposed to have dreamed. :D
Well, at least Mac will always have Boro and his butter!
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 09:58 AM
Talking about referring to what others have said! :D
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 10:05 AM
Oh dear. I feel dirty for how I read that. :eek:
:D:D
Sorry guys. But you are both suspicious as Morgoth wearing a tutu under the Two Trees. When you mentioned it first, fine. When you clarified that you wouldn't have talked about it if it didn't seem clear that it was "out in the open" anyway, fine. But when you continued battering it even after Kit answered you, I was like, what in the name of all the sons of Fëanor?!?
...
All in all, your behaviour makes very little sense and we don't like it at all, no, precious.
And I think this debate should never have happened to begin with. Howgh.
It just makes me happy at how naturally we communicate in idioms about tutu-wearing Morgoth and the Sons of Feanor.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 10:07 AM
Talking about referring to what others have said! :D
I am pretty sure there is an old PM in my inbox with so many responses that the initial quote is so squished it only fits short single words across before going onto the next line. :rolleyes:
Rikae
05-07-2020, 11:21 AM
I'm going to speak frankly here, my reputation for having a bad temper (Kath talking about it now) really hurts. I was hoping I'd outgrown it and could handle a game without losing my cool and saying things I'd regret, and I didn't even make it one day. This should be my last game.
Rikae
05-07-2020, 11:27 AM
Not trying to throw a pity party, I just don't like who I am in these games and I don't think I need to revoke my own "werewolf privileges" because I abuse them. :(
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 11:37 AM
I'm going to speak frankly here, my reputation for having a bad temper (Kath talking about it now) really hurts.
Based on my experience, I wouldn't say you have a bad temper when playing as much as that you are simultaneously so manipulative and direct that it gets reactions from others. I have a temper, which is probably why I often clash with you. You don't take any of my nonsense and aren't afraid to say it, then I get offended and escalate. I didn't mean for us to clash this time specifically, I was searching for any person to pick a fight with. Most people either ignored my pokes or coddled me with explanations, you're one of the few who put their foot down.
Rikae
05-07-2020, 11:39 AM
Maybe, but it doesn't change that I eventually got sarcastic and, well, mean, and I genuinely don't like being like that. Even if the other person is deliberately looking for a fight!
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 11:50 AM
Maybe, but it doesn't change that I eventually got sarcastic and, well, mean, and I genuinely don't like being like that. Even if the other person is deliberately looking for a fight!
I don't think you came across that way. You sounded angry, sure. But it's not like you get angry without good cause. You never took it to a personal level, it was still grounded in the game. I mean, whatever you want to change for yourself, that is by your own concience and reflection. My point is that you don't have to, especially if it's for the rest of us. You aren't doing anything wrong, you aren't playing in bad taste.
Rikae
05-07-2020, 12:05 PM
Thanks, I'm glad you didn't see it that way.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 12:07 PM
Speaking of gifted roles, as they are doing on the GT, they are ignoring the Hunter, who actually doesn't wanna keep his head down so much that the wolves never target him. Do the wolves prefer to take down the Hunter early, before he gets a better read on them? Or try not to target him at all, so as to prevent him from using his power?
Rikae
05-07-2020, 12:16 PM
I have thoughts about that, but I will save them until the demographics of the quarantine shed shift ... :D
(Hm, if we end up with an evil majority in here, I'd basically be a reverse cobbler!)
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 12:21 PM
(Hm, if we end up with an evil majority in here, I'd basically be a reverse cobbler!)
I wish you all the enjoyment in the world! :D
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 12:32 PM
I feel you Rikae. You're not the only one who is sometimes embarrassed about one's behavior in WW. In a sense I'm quite happy modding this game as I can be my cool and positive self who just roots for everyone.
Rikae
05-07-2020, 12:39 PM
I'm really enjoying the narrations so far, and the setup feels like a nice refinement of the dead-thread idea!
But you're a legendary player, though. Mac & I were categorizing WW players (in general) the other day and I said you were a category all by yourself. We need another game with some good, old fashioned Nog conspiracy theories. :p
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 12:43 PM
I'm really enjoying the narrations so far, and the setup feels like a nice refinement of the dead-thread idea!
Ditto. I like this better than the empowerment votes and the loads of arguments about how to exploit them. It's almost like regular WW, except you get to discuss things while dead without waiting for Endgame. ^.^
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 12:44 PM
We need another game with some good, old fashioned Nog conspiracy theories. :p
Be aware what you wish for... :D
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 12:45 PM
Btw. QT vote is revealed in 15 minutes.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 12:46 PM
Rikae, how do you feel about the vote? Any changes of heart?
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 12:52 PM
I guess Rikae has voted, so it's up to you G to either agree or decide to make it a different one. ;)
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 12:53 PM
I guess Rikae has voted, so it's up to you G to either agree or decide to make it a different one. ;)
Oh yes. But I'm opening the floor up for second thoughts, should there be any. :)
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 12:55 PM
You have five minutes for it. :)
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 12:59 PM
Ok, here goes. My last act of chaos. Let the village chew on this.
++ I abstain:Merisu:
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 12:59 PM
Fun.
They will never think of that. :p
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 01:02 PM
I am so looking forward to the reactions. :D
Rikae
05-07-2020, 01:02 PM
Couldn't bring yourself to commit, eh? But not making a decision is, of course, still a decision!
Anyhoo:
Zil has one of the highest post counts? o.O How is that possibly true?
I think that raises him from 'moderate' to 'probable' wolf in my estimation. Sadly for Mac, with both of them having a vote, it doesn't make me think he himself is less suspicious - accusing your packmate right before one of you gets lynched sounds like a great way to alleviate suspicion of them.
hS
If this were any more fabricated, I'd buy five yards of it and stash it on my porch until I forgot what I wanted to make out of it.
Rikae
05-07-2020, 01:18 PM
Not what I was expecting or wanted to see.
Now I'm really curious what he would have wanted from a cobbler. G55, I think you missed a signal. :p
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 01:18 PM
Edit: crossed with Nog posting the QT vote. Great. Not what I was expecting or wanted to see.
And it begins! Wonder what he *wanted* to see.
Couldn't bring yourself to commit, eh? But not making a decision is, of course, still a decision!
Indeed. Your decision actually suits my needs better than a different decision from me would. Besides, as I said, I anticipate 2 hours of attributing the vote to me, which I think it just some extra messing with everyone.
If this were any more fabricated, I'd buy five yards of it and stash it on my porch until I forgot what I wanted to make out of it.
Lol. :D
Rikae
05-07-2020, 01:19 PM
Indeed. Your decision actually suits my needs better than a different decision from me would. Besides, as I said, I anticipate 2 hours of attributing the vote to me, which I think it just some extra messing with everyone.
It was one I was content to have them see as yours.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 01:23 PM
It was one I was content to have them see as yours.
Duh, or you wouldn't do it.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 01:24 PM
Now I'm really curious what he would have wanted from a cobbler. G55, I think you missed a signal. :p
Well, you're welcome to scout for it! I am frankly missing entire *posts* from that thread and am kinda glad I don't have to participate on a GT level. :eek:
Rikae
05-07-2020, 01:26 PM
Duh, or you wouldn't do it.
Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 01:34 PM
I have a feeling this will be a last minute wagon again...
Rikae
05-07-2020, 01:40 PM
I don't like how suddenly half the villag - not the least people I suspect like Lottie etc - turned into suddenly serving Mac as the main meal of the day. It feels like it isn't healthy.
Hey Mac, I think he's calling you fat ...
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 01:43 PM
Hey Mac, I think he's calling you fat ...
:D
With an online lecture happening simultaneously, all of this is extremely difficult to keep up with, or keep track of at all.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 02:30 PM
Is it up to 4 candidates now? Good grief.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 02:43 PM
6 candidates. Right?
The more I stare at that QT vote for Brinniel the more I want to test it. I think G55 is bluffing.
Truth be told, I have never bluffed as big or as much as I have in this game. But did I let the Brin-vote happen because I am bluffing, or double bluffing, or triple bluffing? Or just wrecking havoc? Especially since as it's not my proposed candidate, it doesn't have as much of my own imprint, and the reasons are therefore so much more indirect. But he doesn't know that. :p
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 02:54 PM
I am soooo curious about so much.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 02:57 PM
Welcome aboard, whoever is joining!
Rikae
05-07-2020, 03:00 PM
O modliness, are we allowed to talk at night in the quarantine house?
Nogrod
05-07-2020, 03:22 PM
I know I was thinking in the beginning that there should be quiet Nights here as well, but then again - why should it be thusly?
I can feel the need of getting to discuss this latest turn of events... so I can see how you feel.
So okay, feel free to talk also during the Nights.
I'l add the rule-change in the rules and PM hS about it.
Rikae
05-07-2020, 03:24 PM
Yay, first ever good cobbler! :D
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 03:31 PM
Yay, first ever good cobbler! :D
Alright, you get to say that. I wrote some further comments, but in light of Hui joining us for toMorrow's vote, I have erased them. Your turn to gloat!
Huinesoron
05-07-2020, 03:44 PM
"I wasn't actually expecting to die."
"Good one, sir," said the hangman. "We'll go with that, shall we?"
Hello, quarantine house! Tell you what, this lockdown thing is a real pain in the... legs? Or is that just the arrows?
Hi G55! Sorry for killing you. I'm terrible at spotting even evil Gifted, and besides, I had other priorities.
Hi, Rikae! Hah, I really shot myself in the... well, thighs... with that Mac-Zil post, didn't I? The hilarious part is, I wasn't being artificial. I didn't need to be! I'd already established I suspected both of them. I was just genuinely shocked that Zil had posted so much when he seemed to have said so little.
I actually, honestly have done my best to follow the evidence, even knowing that it wasn't true; the extent of my (conscious) wolf-editing has been ignoring a couple of things that looked sketchy. I mean, believe that or not as you will... :)
I'm kind of offended by Kitanna’s 'I would use profanities' post. I hope she means 'to intensify my Yes!', rather than 'I want to insult/swear at hS'.
And before you ask: I have no idea who the rest of the pack will kill, except that Kitanna pretty much claimed Ranger, so, y'know.
hS/Hareth/CutieWolf 1
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 04:01 PM
Hi G55! Sorry for killing you. I'm terrible at spotting even evil Gifted, and besides, I had other priorities.
That's quite ok. That's the point of my role, right? I was deathly afraid of accidentally killing one of you guys on D1 by poking around too much - partially the reason why I voted Rikae in the end.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 04:02 PM
And welcome, boss! :cool:
Huinesoron
05-07-2020, 04:09 PM
That's quite ok. That's the point of my role, right? I was deathly afraid of accidentally killing one of you guys on D1 by poking around too much - partially the reason why I voted Rikae in the end.
Well, it might have been nice to keep you around a little longer.
(I've read the QT logs - you abstained? Oh my stars, nobody will believe it...)
I haven't gone back and looked to see which of the Pack voted to lock me up - too scared to find out they never liked me anyway... :O
hS
PS: Just reread the opening blurb here... Hareth was really foresighted to insist that the infirmary still gets a vote, wasn't I? :D
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 04:28 PM
Well, it might have been nice to keep you around a little longer.
I can hardly disagree, and if I had a tad more knowledge - or wolf spotting skills - I would have done things differently too. Still, Kit happened, so maybe it's a worthy trade-off.
(I've read the QT logs - you abstained? Oh my stars, nobody will believe it...)
Thing is, I did not disagree with the vote. In fact, I liked it better the longer the Day went on. But abstaining rather than confirming the vote just makes is more fun. It's the small things that bring us delight on this thread. ;)
PS: Just reread the opening blurb here... Hareth was really foresighted to insist that the infirmary still gets a vote, wasn't I?
Not to put any pressure on you, but - yeah, basically all pressure on you. Sorry. :p
Now I have to rethink my wolf pack theories in light of D2 voting.
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 04:30 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/6e/72/496e7206112c105fa84b73fed65c0614.jpg
Huinesoron
05-07-2020, 04:40 PM
I can hardly disagree, and if I had a tad more knowledge - or wolf spotting skills - I would have done things differently too. Still, Kit happened, so maybe it's a worthy trade-off.
Maybe! I guess we'll see if she joins us toMorrow.
Thing is, I did not disagree with the vote. In fact, I liked it better the longer the Day went on. But abstaining rather than confirming the vote just makes is more fun. It's the small things that bring us delight on this thread. ;)
Since this is the thread where your fondest wish is to be outnumbered by the other side (unless it's to be The Only Good Cobbler, hi Rikae), I can see that one.
Not to put any pressure on you, but - yeah, basically all pressure on you. Sorry. :p
Now I have to rethink my wolf pack theories in light of D2 voting.
You enjoy that. ;) I need sleep - arrows in my legs, etc. At least this time I know where the pressure will be coming from...!
(Are you Moon-Moon or am I? Either way... yeah. XD Or perhaps the real Moon-Moon was inside us all along.)
hS
Galadriel55
05-07-2020, 04:45 PM
(Are you Moon-Moon or am I? Either way... yeah. XD Or perhaps the real Moon-Moon was inside us all along.)
We are all Moon Moon!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/29/cc/0829ccb7590f9905b52072524310e7da.jpg
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 09:10 AM
*curiosity intensifies*
Nogrod
05-08-2020, 10:06 AM
PS: Just reread the opening blurb here... Hareth was really foresighted to insist that the infirmary still gets a vote, wasn't I? :D
That thought passed my mind, although only after I had already posted the last narration...
Funnily enough, whoever joins you for Day3, there is still going to be a "baddie-order" in this house. Just thinking about the speculation before the game, whether everyone would just wait and listen to what the QT votes, and then "hide behind it". :D
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 10:40 AM
Funnily enough, whoever joins you for Day3, there is still going to be a "baddie-order" in this house. Just thinking about the speculation before the game, whether everyone would just wait and listen to what the QT votes, and then "hide behind it". :D
Oh, imagine if Hui abstains too without offering up a candidate. The resulting discussion on the GT will be priceless.
...Why are you looking at me like that? I'm just cobbling away peacefully, I mean nobody any harm. :Merisu:
Huinesoron
05-08-2020, 11:04 AM
Oh, imagine if Hui abstains too without offering up a candidate. The resulting discussion on the GT will be priceless.
...Why are you looking at me like that? I'm just cobbling away peacefully, I mean nobody any harm. :Merisu:
Well, depending on what the so-called Good Guys proffer up, maybe I just will... >:-D
hS
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 02:12 PM
And before you ask: I have no idea who the rest of the pack will kill, except that Kitanna pretty much claimed Ranger, so, y'know.
Which makes me wonder what they think about the other possible gifted I tried to flag for you guys - assuming you got the flag. I suppose one of them will be dead soon. Or none - if they wanna muddy the waters: if Kitanna doesn't die toNight, she might be a candidate for suspicion toDay. :smokin:
Huinesoron
05-08-2020, 02:51 PM
Which makes me wonder what they think about the other possible gifted I tried to flag for you guys - assuming you got the flag. I suppose one of them will be dead soon. Or none - if they wanna muddy the waters: if Kitanna doesn't die toNight, she might be a candidate for suspicion toDay. :smokin:
Oh yes, that would "muddy the waters". ;) Well, I didn't personally get the flag, but then I'm barely able to figure out who the wolves are, let alone anyone else!
Ten minutes to go - who's it gonna be?
hS
Nogrod
05-08-2020, 02:58 PM
* drumroll *
:)
Huinesoron
05-08-2020, 03:08 PM
RangerKit! Oh thank the Valar, now I don't have to spend all day pretending you might be a wolf. :)
Since I'm sure you're wondering, and these arrows through my legs take a certain amount of pressure off, you survived Night 2 because various wolves were pretty sure you were trying to cover for the real Ranger. Good thing (for the wolves) Zil brought you out into the open yesterday...
hS
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 03:12 PM
Welcome, Kitanna!
... I'm barely able to figure out who the wolves are, let alone anyone else!
We know your role now, you don't have to pretend not to know any packmates anymore! :p ;)
Huinesoron
05-08-2020, 03:31 PM
We know your role now, you don't have to pretend not to know any packmates anymore! :p ;)
Phew! Then I can finally say aloud that I hope Nogrod, Nerwen, Balfrog and The Barrow-Wight keep doing a great job staying above suspicion!
hS
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 03:32 PM
phew! Then i can finally say aloud that i hope nogrod, nerwen, balfrog and the barrow-wight keep doing a great job staying above suspicion!
Hs
:d
Rikae
05-08-2020, 03:33 PM
Oh, imagine if Hui abstains too without offering up a candidate. The resulting discussion on the GT will be priceless.
...Why are you looking at me like that? I'm just cobbling away peacefully, I mean nobody any harm. :Merisu:
Although my vote yesterday was received exactly as I'd hoped, I think toDay it would be more fun to give you two free rein. Don't mind me, I think I'll take a nap.
Rikae
05-08-2020, 03:34 PM
Phew! Then I can finally say aloud that I hope Nogrod, Nerwen, Balfrog and The Barrow-Wight keep doing a great job staying above suspicion!
hS
A shady bunch. Especially that last one.
Huinesoron
05-08-2020, 03:37 PM
Also, I've read through Hui's posts since yesterDay (assign him to Mordor for those walls of text!)
[Paddington stare]
[Looks over at Lommy and Sally praising Zil's QUOTE-Post of Doom]
[Paddington stare intensifies]
hS
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 03:58 PM
My wife said she heard me cry YES!!! in the room above her when I read the narration.
Is Pitch really appealing to meta reasoning in order to get out from under the suspicion umbrella? Is he that desperate to look like an ordo?
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 04:00 PM
[Paddington stare]
[Looks over at Lommy and Sally praising Zil's QUOTE-Post of Doom]
[Paddington stare intensifies]
hS
To be fair, yesterDay I gave up and just skipped to the conclusion of every Wall of Text, regardless of poster. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to keep up with the "current events" as they were happening.
Kitanna
05-08-2020, 04:06 PM
Welcome, Kitanna!
I died as I lived. Useless. And probably protecting wolves.:rolleyes:
Kitanna
05-08-2020, 04:16 PM
[Paddington stare]
[Looks over at Lommy and Sally praising Zil's QUOTE-Post of Doom]
[Paddington stare intensifies]
hS
That wall of text made my eye twitch. He should be banished to his own QT thread as punishment.
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 04:36 PM
QT -> Brinniel (1)
(known cobbler vote)
That's the Good Cobbler to you! :p
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 05:14 PM
Which by the way makes stuff more interesting, because we will basically get a known wolf vote. They can bluff or double bluff or whatever but they're nonetheless leaving a trace :smokin:
Or, we could just vote Brin again for sticks and giggles.
Or I could make a list of chaotic choices and you pick one from it.
Or you could make a list and I will pick from it.
Or we can both abstain until the DL and see what the other half of the thread comes up with as the "known wolf" vote.
Or, you could abstain and I would vote, in which case my vote would count over Rikae's and Kit's unless they pre-plan and band together.
Do you vote for a controversial player? For someone not widely suspected? For someone quiet? For someone who was once suspected but is not anymore? For the most suspected person at the moment? For a person never really suspected seriously? For someone that the GT has associated close with you as a potential mate? Or for someone who they decide cannot possibly be your mate? Are you triple bluffing or quadruple bluffing? And which one of these is the guiding principle?
What they don't realize is that the level of bluff rises as the stakes fall, and one QT vote 2h before DL accomplishes, well, not much. How high can we set the bar?
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 05:16 PM
PS. More butter! :D
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 05:28 PM
Yeah, let's keep that in mind. But actually, especially with the Evil QT, I am again (just like yesterDay with the Cobbler there) against any such vote. Because what use is it now? Only to tell the Evil QT what we are likely to do. Nopes. WWs would use it to signal the QT. Nopes. Anyone who does so goes into my suspect book. (Starting from you right now, *ping*(TM).)
Err, nope? Wolves don't need to signal the QT anymore. What is Legate doing over here?
Also, his *pinging* almost made me read that as Pitchie's post. At what point did pinging become Pitch's trademark? :rolleyes:
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 07:37 PM
At this point my curiosity is overwhelming my caution. Does nobody else hear a screaming cacophony of "Hunter" from a particular person?
Galadriel55
05-08-2020, 07:38 PM
Also,
(Work update: this is my fourth post, but I've already caught myself checking incoming work emails to see if they might come from wolves. This game gets in your head...)
Lol. :D
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 12:20 AM
Also,
Lol. :D
Oh, that post! I had to edit that one before posting, because what I wanted to say was 'I've caught myself checking my work emails to make sure they don't sound wolfish'. :D
But "to check they're not emails from the pack" didn't even cross my mind! I meant "to see if incoming emails strike me as wolfish".
I have also given my son a very suspicious look when it seemed like he was deliberately mis-hearing me. Wolf! Woooolf!
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 12:33 AM
Hui->Mac 3. I consider this important because Hui could have picked other ways to save himself (like go for Brinn or push for whatever else was in the air). First thought is of course that Mac is therefore innocent.
This assumes that with one vote on me, I was suddenly terrified and saw clearly that I was up against the wall. Nope! My actual response was an excited giggle and "ooh, I got a vote!".
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 12:43 AM
In hindsight, I'd say what got him in trouble is his non-committal attitude in forming suspicions.
Oh come on! I was very clear who my primary suspects were, once I had some (which I think was by my second post) . I feel like people want me to a) explain my reasoning less and b) Yell "X is a wolf!" rather than saying "I find X most suspicious", but... why though? Unsupported accusations aren't going to show other people why someone is a wolf, and as for b), those are plainly synonyms.
I get that my posts were over-long (I worked hard on reducing them in the latter parts of Day 2), but I don't understand this non-committal thing at all. How many people posted lists with three or four (or more) categories to let them 'vaguely suspect' people...?
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 05:03 AM
Or, we could just vote Brin again for sticks and giggles.
I am quite tempted by this plan. Consistency from the QT is a good thing, right? And as a "messing with their heads" option, I can't think of anything better.
Or we can both abstain until the DL and see what the other half of the thread comes up with as the "known wolf" vote.
Or, you could abstain and I would vote, in which case my vote would count over Rikae's and Kit's unless they pre-plan and band together.
Except for this one, because letting the "evil" QT feed them a "good" vote sounds like hecka fun.
(It could by stymied by Team Good also refusing to vote, of course. Wouldn't that be wild?)
The irritating thing is, I feel like I might have spotted the Seer. If I thought the pack would read the message right, I might just straight-up vote for them to send it, but... well, I don't think that.
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 06:06 AM
and then (which most of us failed to spot) Huey's wolf email slip...
:rolleyes: Why yes, I am so bad at this game that I posted "hey, totes expecting the rest of the pack to email me today!". That's definitely what I meant. No other possible way I could've meant those words.
Sorry, but... I'm okay with people assuming the worst about my posts. I'm rather put out at them assuming the stupidest.
That said:
After all, this means the packmate [QT!me] can continue to be useful and push their agenda elsewhere...
Snort. Because my agenda-pushing skills are so strong, right?
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 06:12 AM
I am a broken record:
Given that, like I've said, I had hard time understanding where Hui was ever coming from, I gave them the benefit of doubt and interpreted it as them talking about having email subsrcibed to the ww thread. But looks like the simpler explanation was true and I should have certainly remembered this slip because had Hui's meaning been innocent, I can't see why they wouldn't have replied to Lhuna and clarified it.
a) You can do that?
b) I did reply! (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=723279&postcount=105)
c) I really don't think 'to see if they might come from wolves' is as difficult a sentence as people are making it out to be. It's a direct working-from-home synonym for 'I've been checking my coworkers to see if they might be wolves'.
The explanation is clear: the wolves are stirring this up to try and mislynch me! :O
... wait...
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 06:13 AM
On an actual other note:
Bear watching
Lottie...
Um, Lommy, there's... there's no bears in this game. Did you get as confused as me? :confused: ;)
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 08:21 AM
Having skimmed through Page 17, I now have to leave for work.
Should be around more or less for both DLs. I think this goes without saying, but I'll follow your lead, boss. :cool:
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 09:44 AM
Having skimmed through Page 17, I now have to leave for work.
Should be around more or less for both DLs. I think this goes without saying, but I'll follow your lead, boss. :cool:
Right now I'm waiting to see what the InnoCuties do. :) I should be here from an hour before our DL, though possibly absent actually at it (it's not like we're going to be in a last-second rush over here!).
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 09:49 AM
Coupled with the non-committal "suspicion" from Huey against them, it merits consideration.
...
...
BWAHAHAHA.
Is the whole "non-committal" thing seriously because I used the word "suspicion" to describe thinking someone was a wolf?
Oh, that's just too rich. XD
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 09:56 AM
Are you trying to suggest that we go the 'fake-vote' route, throw a lot of information around our choices early on when their DL comes and then at DL vote completely different as some 'gotcha'?
A reminder that who started the fake-vote thing is sitting in the QT and is aware of it.
:confused: I started that to make a mess, not to make use of it while I'm in the QT.
Why yes, I am so bad at this game that I posted "hey, totes expecting the rest of the pack to email me today!". That's definitely what I meant. No other possible way I could've meant those words.
Sorry, but... I'm okay with people assuming the worst about my posts. I'm rather put out at them assuming the stupidest.
No no no no. Take pride in it. They are using their posts to be like "Look at how obvious it has been! How dare all the rest of you not have spotted him earlier? You are all suspicious as a result!" :p
Right now I'm waiting to see what the InnoCuties do. :) I should be here from an hour before our DL, though possibly absent actually at it (it's not like we're going to be in a last-second rush over here!).
hS
I have a feeling they are purposefully keeping silent so as to not give anything away, and try to glean information from us.
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 10:01 AM
The irritating thing is, I feel like I might have spotted the Seer. If I thought the pack would read the message right, I might just straight-up vote for them to send it, but... well, I don't think that.
I wonder if we spotted the same gifted. Except I am leaning Hunter, because this individual seems a bit bluff to be a true Seer. Taking some risky stances, and baddie trapping in the open on D1.
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 12:16 PM
It's so quiet today. Like, we are three hours away from the deadline on a weekend, and there just isn't that much going on.
I hear you, Lottie.
Hey, InnoCuties, if you want to choose who the QT votes for, get in there quick. Otherwise it'll just be Brinn again. :)
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 12:19 PM
I hear you, Lottie.
No no no, please DON'T be as chatty as the last 2 Days, I am at work today and would fall absolutely completely behind if they started chatting just now. After the QT DL - fine, chat away, as long as my job is done. :)
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 12:29 PM
Hey, InnoCuties, if you want to choose who the QT votes for, get in there quick. Otherwise it'll just be Brinn again. :)
I will have a vote template ready to fill for just before DL. I hope work does not distract me enough to miss it.
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 12:45 PM
Alas, it looks like the innocents in our humble abode are not going to make use of the voice Hareth-I spoke to eloquently to gain them. Therefore, to avoid potentially missing the deadline (I'm literally being called away right now), I will offer up my own vote in harmony with your solidarity of yesterDay:
++Brinniel
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 12:49 PM
++Brinniel
Nogrod
05-09-2020, 12:51 PM
:cool::)
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 12:53 PM
Thank you, faithful Cobbler55. :)
#718: Eonwe is now wall-of-text quote-posting... himself. I half thought he was trying to prove himself a wolf! :eek:
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 12:55 PM
Thank you, faithful Cobbler55. :)
Cheers!
I am afraid my participation will be plunging down, but at least I didn't miss the vote DL!
(Also, Nog, I bet you are enjoying this so much!...)
Rikae
05-09-2020, 01:00 PM
Oh man, Huey, watching you is bringing back memories of the frustration of being a wolf suspected for all the wrong reasons!
Anyway, I would like to exercise my right to vote. Maybe the delegates will be useful at the convention?
++Bernie
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 01:17 PM
Oh man, Huey, watching you is bringing back memories of the frustration of being a wolf suspected for all the wrong reasons!
Anyway, I would like to exercise my right to vote. Maybe the delegates will be useful at the convention?
++Bernie
Lol. :D
I don't think we can deduce anything regarding Brinn's role from this though, as this would have been a fairly smart move from Huin and G55 regardless of whether Brinn is on their side or not.
It's nice to be appreciated. ^.^ Even if it is [possibly] for the wrong reasons.
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 01:21 PM
Are they going to do that for the rest of the game? Boring.
*brain wheels spinning* But what would you say if we keep doing it even after the thread becomes innocently dominated (and it's gotta eventually, statistically speaking)? If innocents vote Brin too for the sole purpose of making the GT go "whaaat?", just because they can?
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 01:25 PM
Oh man, Huey, watching you is bringing back memories of the frustration of being a wolf suspected for all the wrong reasons!
Anyway, I would like to exercise my right to vote. Maybe the delegates will be useful at the convention?
++Bernie
:D
It's nice to be appreciated. ^.^ Even if it is [possibly] for the wrong reasons.
First nice thing that's been said about me toDay. ;) (Now this one I'm not sore about - I was revealed as a wolf, after all!)
That's why the QT DL really blunts their power.
Or DOES IT?
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 01:26 PM
*brain wheels spinning* But what would you say if we keep doing it even after the thread becomes innocently dominated (and it's gotta eventually, statistically speaking)? If innocents vote Brin too for the sole purpose of making the GT go "whaaat?", just because they can?
I second the motion. ^_^
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 01:34 PM
It's also an even split over there right now, so who knows who chose Brinn as a candidate.
Rikae. :Merisu:
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 02:41 PM
Anyway, clearly messing with us in some way, that's for sure.
:D
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 02:50 PM
By all the Valar, are they seriously at 10 minutes to DL with half the village still to vote?
o.O
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 02:55 PM
"It's seven minutes to deadline but I'm not telling who I'm hunting."
Sally, you have some sort of plan here, but I'm a petty-dwarf if I know what it is.
hS
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 03:03 PM
Crap, I missed where I was actually asked. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Omguh.
And that's Deadline.
Whoo! So Day 1 we had "I'm the Ranger HAHA nope", Day 2 we had "SUDDENLY Huinesoron", and Day 3 we had "Sally the silent hunter". I tell you, reading through a full page of replies and going "where is she? She must say something soon!" was absolutely gripping.
And I'm still not sure who's coming to join us!
hS
Rikae
05-09-2020, 03:08 PM
Well, that's just great. I'll be very surprised if Mac is guilty.
And not hanging around and reading, as a gifted on the chopping block? Is every gifted in this game secretly also a cobbler?
Rikae
05-09-2020, 03:10 PM
*brain wheels spinning* But what would you say if we keep doing it even after the thread becomes innocently dominated (and it's gotta eventually, statistically speaking)? If innocents vote Brin too for the sole purpose of making the GT go "whaaat?", just because they can?
Or because even though we'd have the majority, someone doesn't turn up to vote ...
Or because we decide Brinn really is the best target.
Rikae
05-09-2020, 03:12 PM
Is every gifted in this game secretly also a cobbler?
I shouldn't have said that. Mistakes & life happen.
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 03:13 PM
Y'know, we're now into a gap in the rules - if Sally really is the Hunter, does she or her victim have the tie-break? Neither of them are night-kills, which is the only thing the rules rule out...
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 03:17 PM
Soooo... I was unable to log on since my previous post here, and the GT wrote two and a half new pages. ?!?!?!?! Also, glancing at the QT in passing, looks like something really exciting happened. Will catch up to GT first, then see what you guys have to say about it.
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 03:27 PM
Hi, Sally! Hi, Mac! Welcome to the madhouse... er, infirmary. :)
Per the rule change last Night, the quarantinies are allowed to keep nattering all night long, so if you feel up to it after that intense final hour, please do say hello. :)
hS
Macalaure
05-09-2020, 03:30 PM
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
edit: this was all-caps... the forum un-allcapsed it for me! What??
Rikae
05-09-2020, 03:31 PM
Well, it could have been worse. She could have killed the seer.
Macalaure
05-09-2020, 03:32 PM
But really, for god's sake... there were several people who were very happy to keep voting for you! :(
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 03:32 PM
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I shouldn't laugh.
I really shouldn't.
It's probably a good thing you can't see me right now.
:D
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 03:32 PM
At least sally didn't claim to be the Ranger... :rolleyes:
Are people who are insisting on her revealing the Hunt doing so because they are afraid she is hunting one of them?
I don't get what the quarantined are trying to accomplish with their vote. We know it's still in evil hand. It seems quite unlikely Brinn will be lynched toDay. If this is some attempt at reverse psychology, it's not working.
But you can only know it's not working when you know what it's trying to accomplish. And whatever Hui may or may not be trying to accomplish, my personal goal is precisely this.
Ok, caught up to GT. Welcome, newcomers!
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 03:37 PM
Y'know, we're now into a gap in the rules - if Sally really is the Hunter, does she or her victim have the tie-break? Neither of them are night-kills, which is the only thing the rules rule out...
hS
Pretty sure it's still Sally, as Mac wasn't actually lynched. But will wait for Nog to confirm.
Well, it could have been worse. She could have killed the seer.
Lol. :D I'm sorry for laughing sally. But I would certainly have enjoyed that outcome.
Rikae
05-09-2020, 03:38 PM
And whatever Hui may or may not be trying to accomplish, my personal goal is precisely this.
Okay, now I can speak freely, anyway.
My goal was to dissuade people from voting for her, which it did. The fact that I got night killed made her look less wolfish to me.
However, the fact that Huey voted for her toDay opens up a whole new discussion. After all, getting the "evil QT vote" for the second day in a row was about the safest position Brinn could be in.
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 03:41 PM
However, the fact that Huey voted for her toDay opens up a whole new discussion. After all, getting the "evil QT vote" for the second day in a row was about the safest position Brinn could be in.
I need a version of the :D smiley with great big pointy wolf teeth...
hS
Nogrod
05-09-2020, 03:43 PM
Just updating a list here as well. I'll try to update this daily form now on as the Thread seems to grow pretty fast. :)
Galadriel55 – Andróg, the Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1)
Rikae – Haldir, formerly healthy person (infected by the shady Infectors on Night2)
Huinesoron – Hareth, an Infector (voted into QT on Day2)
Kitanna – Huor, the Ranger (infected in the woods by the Infectors on Night3)
Sally – Túrin, the Hunter (voted into QT on Day3)
Macalaure – Grithnir, healthy person (dragged into the QT by the Hunter on Day3)
On another issue.
The first tie-breaker on Day4 will be Sally.
If Sally is not involved in a tie, then it will be hS whose vote decides.
In a case where neither is part of a tie, it is G55 who calls it.
If everyone votes a different person (omly other option if I counted it correctly in haste), then it is the latest incomer aka. next Night's victim whose vote counts.
This really is a special Village...
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 03:43 PM
However, the fact that Huey voted for her toDay opens up a whole new discussion. After all, getting the "evil QT vote" for the second day in a row was about the safest position Brinn could be in.
And how do you know your reaction is not exactly what Hui intended?
See what I mean about low stakes / high level psychology? How do you know what level of bluff this is happening at? And who is being bluffed more: the GT or the future QT?
Macalaure
05-09-2020, 03:49 PM
Skimmed the thread. I see I greatly overestimated the amount of conspiracy, or even thought, that you baddies put into the QT vote. :p
We're a majority of innocents in here at this point, and as long as we can remotely get our act together, we're in charge of the vote.
I am very sure that Boro is the seer. He has dreamt of Lommy and Brinn and found them innocent. I'm not sure who the third person is, but that person is innocent as well.
Rikae
05-09-2020, 03:51 PM
And how do you know your reaction is not exactly what Hui intended?
See what I mean about low stakes / high level psychology? How do you know what level of bluff this is happening at? And who is being bluffed more: the GT or the future QT?
If so, he'd be prioritizing the reactions of people with a fraction of a single vote over those with a full vote each.
Sorry, my cobbler friend, you're outnumbered now and logical discussions can resume. Obviously "Huey voted for Brinn" isn't a complete case against her, but it does justify a close look through her posting history which (finally!) I can talk openly about.
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 03:53 PM
Sorry, my cobbler friend, you're outnumbered now and logical discussions can resume.
Bah, it's just like I've always said: Team Evil has more fun.
(I have never said this.)
hS
Rikae
05-09-2020, 03:53 PM
I am very sure that Boro is the seer. He has dreamt of Lommy and Brinn and found them innocent. I'm not sure who the third person is, but that person is innocent as well.
I haven't been reading much of the last Day since my vote didn't count anyway - what did you base this on?
Macalaure
05-09-2020, 03:57 PM
When I went to analyze Boro I saw several things that looked excessively weird, but after a while the lights went on. I had to re-write everything and hint at him that I figured it out while keeping him in that semi-suspicious range that usually keeps people safe-ish from kills and lynches. I hope I didn't hint to obviously. I can post the details later.
We have all night after all.... :rolleyes:
Macalaure
05-09-2020, 04:00 PM
I do have to say, Sally: If you had been more straightforward about your pick, then:
A) People's reactions to it would have been more telling.
B) I could have summarized my thoughts with a noose around my neck. If I turn out innocent, as I did, that might've been helpful for the village the next Day.
:(
Rikae
05-09-2020, 04:26 PM
I am rather annoyed no one noticed my hunter hints.
Huinesoron
05-09-2020, 04:29 PM
I am rather annoyed no one noticed my hunter hints.
You're not alone - I set up a potential Hunter claim in my very first post, by going on about Baby Turin.
I've spent the past Night and Day wondering if reappearing and claiming when the wagon on me got going would have helped. Thanks to this lynch, at least I can be comfortable I was going down anyway. :)
hS
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 05:03 PM
I am very sure that Boro is the seer. He has dreamt of Lommy and Brinn and found them innocent. I'm not sure who the third person is, but that person is innocent as well.
Bwahahaha! :D If this doesn't make me pleased. :D
Macalaure
05-09-2020, 06:21 PM
On why I thought Boro was the seer.
The way he stays uninvolved but is able to go at great lengths about his thoughts when poked over it. He's not just goofing around having fun, he's just playing his cards really close to his chest.
His case against Lhuna - he didn't analyze anyone closely like that, so why her? Well, his analysis firmly rests on the assumption of Lommy's innocence. If he knew Lommy was innocent, it would make sense to suspect someone who makes a case against her that he doesn't like.
"I'm voting G55 to avoid Brinn getting lynched" = wolf having trouble trying to create fake suspicions. So his reasoning isn't based on faked suspicions, but on what he KNOWS. Brinn is innocent.
This doesn't make any sense to me logically, but the "Brinn is innocent" part really reads like a seer hint for people to figure out after he's dead.
So far I've had this feeling that I'm on the most direct trajectory that leads to wolves, but my aim is slightly off-center. Like I'm hitting the target, but I'm not going to win any marksmanship competition.
This either reads as a wolfish "Geez, I'm so sorry I haven't been good at spotting wolves, yet, but I'm totally trying." or a seerish "I haven't been able to dream of any wolves yet, but I'm really trying."
He's also very panicky about a bandwaggon against him after Sally's reveal. Borowolf does not lose his cool that quickly, but Boroseer might.
It's not airtight, so feel free to make fun of it. :p
I think he dreamt of Lommy during Night1 or Night2 and Brinn during Night3. I don't have any idea who the third is. I wonder whether it might have been Rikae during Night2.
Rikae
05-09-2020, 07:14 PM
I agree, Mac, that Brinn comment is especially odd.
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 07:53 PM
Oh, but you haven't spotted the best bit. :smokin:
Macalaure
05-09-2020, 08:26 PM
Do share then. ;)
Galadriel55
05-09-2020, 08:49 PM
Do share then. ;)
Cue: I know something you don't know!
Or, as people on the thread keep reminding each other, I don't know anything. So, I see something you don't see!
I am just really happy you picked up on those bits and not the others.
Rikae
05-09-2020, 10:28 PM
I am just really happy you picked up on those bits and not the others.
Well, if it's relevant, Hui will know if it's true. Shame you can't talk to him privately.
Huinesoron
05-10-2020, 02:57 AM
So we're voting Boro toMorrow, is that what I'm hearing? Sounds good to me!
hS
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 10:30 AM
Kitanna? Sally? I'd love to hear from you! :)
We're 4 against 2 with the tie-breaker on our side, 5 against 2 once we get to vote again. So we're looking pretty good in here, unless we don't work together or have no-votes.
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 10:49 AM
Did anyone else get a temporary blackout a short while ago? :confused:
Well, if it's relevant, Hui will know if it's true. Shame you can't talk to him privately.
There's something I am 99% sure is true. But it's amusing to see you guys go on.
satansaloser2005
05-10-2020, 10:54 AM
Sorry, I had entered a brief but intense period of mourning. The people who were helping me paint my house thought someone had actually died.
I'm so forking angry. I finally decided, at literally the last minute, to be end the question of Mac and Huey once and for all. Sadly, I was on the losing side. So sorry, Mac.
Not bolded because I'm on mobile and the site is being wonky.
satansaloser2005
05-10-2020, 11:03 AM
Oh man, Huey, watching you is bringing back memories of the frustration of being a wolf suspected for all the wrong reasons!
Anyway, I would like to exercise my right to vote. Maybe the delegates will be useful at the convention?
++Bernie
I just want you to know I tried to rep this post and it wouldn't let me. A+++++++++
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
edit: this was all-caps... the forum un-allcapsed it for me! What??
I KNOOOOOOOOW. *regretful sobbing* Also, I had the caps issue too the other day. How odd.
Our DL is in about two hours, yes/no?
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 11:05 AM
I'm so forking angry. I finally decided, at literally the last minute, to be end the question of Mac and Huey once and for all. Sadly, I was on the losing side. So sorry, Mac.
You know, I kept wondering about people who demanded most loudly *coughLegatecough* that you reveal your prey early. Out of curiosity, what made you decide to keep your cards close? Or you just didn't want to make a decision until the last moments of the Day?
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 11:06 AM
Our DL is in about two hours, yes/no?
Correct. (Except in Daytime).
satansaloser2005
05-10-2020, 11:08 AM
You know, I kept wondering about people who demanded most loudly *coughLegatecough* that you reveal your prey early. Out of curiosity, what made you decide to keep your cards close? Or you just didn't want to make a decision until the last moments of the Day?
I actually said I was hunting Lottie, or rather hinted at it, in a post I'll find and quote later. I like making people guess, but not like that. I was trying not to be That Lazy Girl who had people over to help me and then did nothing, but I finally sat down right before DL and told them I needed to do A Thing or it would be Very Bad. Sadly, I was too late.
Legate was such a curious cookie. They should fry him, perhaps. :p
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 11:28 AM
I actually said I was hunting Lottie, or rather hinted at it, in a post I'll find and quote later. I like making people guess, but not like that. I was trying not to be That Lazy Girl who had people over to help me and then did nothing, but I finally sat down right before DL and told them I needed to do A Thing or it would be Very Bad. Sadly, I was too late.
I am pretty sure Lottie got the message. I am curious about what would have happened if Mac (and the rest) got the new message with time to spare.
*daydream: "No, I am the Innocent Child / Seer! Leave me for the wolves to kill!"*
Legate was such a curious cookie. They should fry him, perhaps. :p
Bake him. Because frying cookies would be weird. :p
Kitanna
05-10-2020, 12:08 PM
Kitanna? Sally? I'd love to hear from you! :)
We're 4 against 2 with the tie-breaker on our side, 5 against 2 once we get to vote again. So we're looking pretty good in here, unless we don't work together or have no-votes.
Out of spite I want to get Zil or Legate. But really, I did not not keep up with Day 3, except for the harrowing last minute stuff with our dear cupcake. I'm ready to be more active here on the QT once Day starts.
Rikae
05-10-2020, 12:26 PM
Our DL is in about two hours, yes/no?
No, because it's night right now.
We can discuss now, but it could be wasted if the person we're analyzing gets night killed, so I'm going to wait for them.
We should probably not engage with G55 either. She doesn't know anything & is going to do whatever she can to provoke (if anyone wants to analyze Hui/their interactions, though, have at it - I'm going to be sifting through the living thread).
Rikae
05-10-2020, 12:31 PM
Out of spite I want to get Zil or Legate. But really, I did not not keep up with Day 3, except for the harrowing last minute stuff with our dear cupcake. I'm ready to be more active here on the QT once Day starts.
Zil had some really wolfy moments in the stuff I read. I did want to go back and look at him more closely.
We also need to look at the under-the-radar types. There's been too much noisy debate about a handful of people and it's giving me a creepy feeling.
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 12:36 PM
We should probably not engage with G55 either. She doesn't know anything & is going to do whatever she can to provoke
Who, me? :Merisu:
I have been kind to you. But speaking of provoking, here is a thought-provoking question I did not get a chance to throw out on the GT. So while we chat the Night boredom away, here goes. If The Phantom was playing, he would surely have figured out a way to exploit the Innocent Child role. Probably by making them reveal early. Why? I don't know, I'm not TP, but he always has a reason. It does give the village a known innocent at the cost of losing their dear Lalaith in the Night, but it may be very useful in untangling some of the knots that were tied on D2 and D3.
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 12:37 PM
We also need to look at the under-the-radar types. There's been too much noisy debate about a handful of people and it's giving me a creepy feeling.
Lynch Lalaith! :p
satansaloser2005
05-10-2020, 12:41 PM
Hush now, child. The other desserts are talking. ;)
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 12:55 PM
Who, me? :Merisu:
I have been kind to you. But speaking of provoking, here is a thought-provoking question I did not get a chance to throw out on the GT. So while we chat the Night boredom away, here goes. If The Phantom was playing, he would surely have figured out a way to exploit the Innocent Child role. Probably by making them reveal early. Why? I don't know, I'm not TP, but he always has a reason. It does give the village a known innocent at the cost of losing their dear Lalaith in the Night, but it may be very useful in untangling some of the knots that were tied on D2 and D3.
The seer has plans. The wolves have plans. The phantom always has plans. You know, they're schemers. Schemers trying to control their little worlds.
I'm not a schemer, and look where that got me.
... wait... that's not quite how that quote goes. :rolleyes:
Anyway.
A known innocent is a game-changer in the late game and roadkill in the early game.
Nogrod
05-10-2020, 03:01 PM
Quarantined
Galadriel55 – Andróg, the Cobbler (voted into QT on Day1)
Rikae – Haldir, formerly healthy person (infected by the shady Infectors on Night2)
Huinesoron – Hareth, an Infector (voted into QT on Day2)
Kitanna – Huor, the Ranger (infected in the woods by the Infectors on Night3)
Sally – Túrin, the Hunter (voted into QT on Day3)
Macalaure – Grithnir, healthy person (dragged into the QT by the Hunter on Day3)
Legate of Amon Lanc – Asgon, healthy person (infected sneakily on Night4)
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 03:01 PM
Leggggiiiitt! *cheers*
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 03:02 PM
Heya Legate! :)
Rikae
05-10-2020, 03:06 PM
Welcome Legate! Hooray for not being the seer!:D
Huinesoron
05-10-2020, 03:16 PM
Mornin' Legate, welcome to the thread. :) We're all friends here, except for how I'm actively working against you and Cobbler55 is the incarnation of chaos. But that doesn't mean we can't still have fun!
hS
Huinesoron
05-10-2020, 03:37 PM
Can we trust the QT now? Please. But I swear if they give us Brinn again I'm going to lose it.
:D
Come on. You know you want to.
hS
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 03:49 PM
:D
Come on. You know you want to.
hS
I just got to that spot on the GT and was bursting with giggles to the point where I had to get up and take a walk before typing this. Seriously, InnoCuties, don't you want to even slightly? :D
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 03:51 PM
I just got to that spot on the GT and was bursting with giggles to the point where I had to get up and take a walk before typing this. Seriously, InnoCuties, don't you want to even slightly? :DIt would be hilarious! :D
Who said that? :eek:
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 03:59 PM
It would be hilarious! :D
Who said that? :eek:
Mac, are you channeling Nilp's alter-egos? ;)
In unrelated news, Lottie, as Pitch might say, is *pinging* me on multiple levels.
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 04:14 PM
Welcome Legate! Hooray for not being the seer!:D
Mornin' Legate, welcome to the thread. :) We're all friends here, except for how I'm actively working against you and Cobbler55 is the incarnation of chaos. But that doesn't mean we can't still have fun!
hS
Hullo everyone! Well, at least I got merry company, that's for sure. :) Nah, what is a life without a bit of a quarantine. Also... here... we can do whatever we want!!! *starts shamelessly hugging innocents, tickling the Wolf and patting the Cobbler on the head*
So, is there anything I should know before I run through the previous few pages of the thread? (I quickly read the first one... looks like it's been active here from the start.)
And yeah, I am equally glad I'm not the Seer. Was it a thing, I wonder?
*glances at the Living and shakes head*
Also Sally, sorry for yesterDay. Though to be fair I think it was likely to happen even if everyone didn't band up. I don't know if it's any consolation, but at that stage, I would likely have voted for you even if you had appeared and told us your pick.
Wanna look back and read if you settled it with Mac here...
EDIT: x-ed with the last two except nobody cares here hahahhahaaaaa *ahem* okay, back to serious mood. But hey, one has to cope somehow with quarantine, right.
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 04:16 PM
:D
Come on. You know you want to.
hS
Actually that was my first thought when I saw it as well.
Although of course, there may be other candidates to consider too. But since he said it, ah, the TEMPTATION! *shakes fist*
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 04:26 PM
If I was a wolf
Can someone on the GT please ban this phrase? It's been used so often that everyone who says that has to automatically be lynched - errr, sorry Mac. I think you were the first, and sally's done it too. :p Popular defense this game, eh?
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 04:27 PM
Actually that was my first thought when I saw it as well.
Although of course, there may be other candidates to consider too. But since he said it, ah, the TEMPTATION! *shakes fist*
That's the spirit! :D
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 04:30 PM
As for the Legate kill - I'm not surprised at all. He was very widely considered innocent, especially after the Huine lynch. I will look at his posts at some point to look for "seer clues" the wolves might have picked up, but now I'm off to read toDay's discussion so far.
And here I was, trying to drum up suspicion for Legate for insisting sally revealed her pick - simply because I agree, he was looking on the whole too innocent. :p
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 04:31 PM
Can someone on the GT please ban this phrase? It's been used so often that everyone who says that has to automatically be lynched - errr, sorry Mac. I think you were the first, and sally's done it too. :p Popular defense this game, eh?
What has to stop is that people who say that are instantly everybody's prime suspect. If you want to catch the wolf you have to think like the wolf! ;)
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 04:32 PM
C'mon Legate, read quicker. We want your input! :)
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 04:53 PM
C'mon Legate, read quicker. We want your input! :)
We could do a race. Can we add posts faster than Legate can catch up? Highly unlikely, given that there are only so many of us active at the moment, and our posts are not Walls of Text.
Huinesoron
05-10-2020, 04:56 PM
We could do a race. Can we add posts faster than Legate can catch up? Highly unlikely, given that there are only so many of us active at the moment, and our posts are not Walls of Text.
Did someone say walls of text?!
https://i.imgur.com/Ezlxv35.png
(The delightful Aoife McLysaght courtesy the 2018 Royal Institution Christmas Lectures (https://www.rigb.org/christmas-lectures/watch/2018/who-am-i/where-do-i-come-from).)
I won't, I won't... but I will do this.
++Brinniel
^_^
hS
Huinesoron
05-10-2020, 05:00 PM
He was very widely considered innocent, especially after the Huine lynch. I will look at his posts at some point to look for "seer clues" the wolves might have picked up, but now I'm off to read toDay's discussion so far.
Er...
... maybe they just watched him lynch a wolf?
(I mean, I thought Legate might be the Seer after I wound up with arrows through both legs. Though that may just have been to make myself feel better. :))
hS
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 05:02 PM
https://freight.cargo.site/t/original/i/e8e16ae112df9653efa3b27054aa48e3c4c602d4c2e16f8d19 877a36d9c853ef/LuciferSans_WallOfText_36x47-01.jpg
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 05:02 PM
The mention of Aoife in a werewolf thread gives me bad flashbacks. :eek: Who among the presently dead were already around to play with Roa of old? Kitanna, Nog? She was scary good at this.
edit: MY EYEBALLS!
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 05:05 PM
The mention of Aoife in a werewolf thread gives me bad flashbacks. :eek: Who among the presently dead were already around to play with Roa of old? Kitanna, Nog? She was scary good at this.
I don't think I've ever played with her, but my first association was with the Downer as well. :D
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 05:06 PM
C'mon Legate, read quicker. We want your input! :)
Yeah yeah. Done now. Well! You been busy.
I died as I lived. Useless. And probably protecting wolves.:rolleyes:
Incidentally, whom did you protect, out o' curiosity? (Don't think it's any sensitive information now... is it.)
We're a majority of innocents in here at this point, and as long as we can remotely get our act together, we're in charge of the vote.
Yeah. Let's make sure we have enough time to talk this through AND vote (I don't know how are all of your schedules, but we can't do this last-minute, obviously). What do we want to do? Do we want to try to agree on a person (or ideally, some list of a few, in case we pick one and they say "I'm the Seer!" just before we send our votes), so maybe like "whom we think is most likely a Wolf" and then vote for them all at once? Is there a time of the Day we can all be around (sometime shortly before our DL, maybe?) so that we can just vote simultaneously?
I am rather annoyed no one noticed my hunter hints.
You're not alone - I set up a potential Hunter claim in my very first post, by going on about Baby Turin.
Hunter hints? What hunter hints? Sorry, I always sucked at this. Has anyone thought I was posting hints? No? Thought so.
On why I thought Boro was the seer.
The way he stays uninvolved but is able to go at great lengths about his thoughts when poked over it. He's not just goofing around having fun, he's just playing his cards really close to his chest.
His case against Lhuna - he didn't analyze anyone closely like that, so why her? Well, his analysis firmly rests on the assumption of Lommy's innocence. If he knew Lommy was innocent, it would make sense to suspect someone who makes a case against her that he doesn't like.
This doesn't make any sense to me logically, but the "Brinn is innocent" part really reads like a seer hint for people to figure out after he's dead.
Originally Posted by Boro
So far I've had this feeling that I'm on the most direct trajectory that leads to wolves, but my aim is slightly off-center. Like I'm hitting the target, but I'm not going to win any marksmanship competition.
This either reads as a wolfish "Geez, I'm so sorry I haven't been good at spotting wolves, yet, but I'm totally trying." or a seerish "I haven't been able to dream of any wolves yet, but I'm really trying."
Okay, this, maybe. I was, to be sure, from the start in accord with Lommy on "there's something weird about Boro" and once the Cobbler55 was out of the game (hullo there again), I was like, "okay, maybe he's 'da Chiiild'". Didn't see anything Seerish, but of all things, yes, that quote looks like it a bit. But the WWs may be oblivious not to have noticed it. Well, so was I then, but there are four times as many of them.
It may be incidentally good that I died because I was getting increasingly paranoid about people in the sort of scatterbrained way. But I'm a bit afraid who will be the people who are going to occupy the more central, louder spots of the village.
I'm so forking angry. I finally decided, at literally the last minute, to be end the question of Mac and Huey once and for all. Sadly, I was on the losing side. So sorry, Mac.
Actually, I know it's a very little consolation, but from the cruel, cold, practical perspective... it did at least solve that problem. I mean it would have been much better had Mac been a Wolf but... hey. I kinda hope the village can now use that info for something.
I actually said I was hunting Lottie, or rather hinted at it, in a post I'll find and quote later.
That was actually what I kinda assumed (and Lottie probably figured).
Legate was such a curious cookie. They should fry him, perhaps. :p
*Raises eyebrows barely noticeably.*
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 05:12 PM
Okay, this, maybe. I was, to be sure, from the start in accord with Lommy on "there's something weird about Boro" and once the Cobbler55 was out of the game (hullo there again), I was like, "okay, maybe he's 'da Chiiild'". Didn't see anything Seerish, but of all things, yes, that quote looks like it a bit. But the WWs may be oblivious not to have noticed it. Well, so was I then, but there are four times as many of them.
... From which you conclude? ...
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 05:13 PM
Er...
... maybe they just watched him lynch a wolf?
(I mean, I thought Legate might be the Seer after I wound up with arrows through both legs. Though that may just have been to make myself feel better. :))
hS
Well, I am very glad I spotted you even without Seer powers (but to be fair I am still very surprised how easily the bandwagon went. I think Kit can definitely be credited with part of it. How many your people threw you under the bus, huh?).
The mention of Aoife in a werewolf thread gives me bad flashbacks. :eek: Who among the presently dead were already around to play with Roa of old? Kitanna, Nog? She was scary good at this.
I played with her maybe only twice... one time was really late, some comeback-after-many-years in some Dueling Wizards Fifty-And-Half. She was scary.
But more importantly, in my very first game... modded by you, no less... was she a Cobbler! And she was great! She helped us so much! Oh, what a beautiful game... ahem yeah I was a Wolf.
edit: MY EYEBALLS!
Word.
Huinesoron
05-10-2020, 05:17 PM
Well, I am very glad I spotted you even without Seer powers (but to be fair I am still very surprised how easily the bandwagon went. I think Kit can definitely be credited with part of it. How many your people threw you under the bus, huh?).
Oh, lots - no, none at all, not one!
hS
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 05:19 PM
... From which you conclude? ...
...that they are dumber than me, or what is it you want me to say? :D
What do you people think about Zil? And what about for instance Lottie? (I suspected her like the first few Days a lot, but then there were a things I thought a Wolf would not say.) I could list everyone here... but I'm kinda curious about actual known innocents' opinion on these people.
And now that we all, and not just Mac, know the truth about the votes the Day before... :rolleyes:
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 05:20 PM
Oh, lots - no, none at all, not one!
hS
Burrawolf? Sorry, Wolfahobbit? (That makes more sense.)
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 05:20 PM
With the Wolves not believing Kit, and most of the village not believing sally, and who knows what will happen with the Seer - I feel like the only gifted who will actually be believed is the Child, and that's because of mod omnipotence. Whence all the overflowing suspicion - from BOTH sides?
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 05:26 PM
Yeah. Let's make sure we have enough time to talk this through AND vote (I don't know how are all of your schedules, but we can't do this last-minute, obviously). What do we want to do? Do we want to try to agree on a person (or ideally, some list of a few, in case we pick one and they say "I'm the Seer!" just before we send our votes), so maybe like "whom we think is most likely a Wolf" and then vote for them all at once? Is there a time of the Day we can all be around (sometime shortly before our DL, maybe?) so that we can just vote simultaneously?
Or you could vote Brin. :cool:
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 05:35 PM
I'm still getting seer vibes from Boro. Look at how defensive of Lommy he is. I feel if he was not the seer, or even a wolf impersonating a seer, he wouldn't be this consistent. I'm gonna run with that assumption for now.
I'm starting to get a clearer picture, and imagining a pack of Lhuna, Lottie and Inzil.If he really hasn't dreamt of a wolf until now, he can't have all three of them figured out now. The fact that they're listed in a row like this makes me suspect that he doesn't know any of them and has dreamt of another innocent. With our luck, he dreamt of Legate. :rolleyes:
Inzil I need to get a better read onDefinitely didn't dream of him.
I still think it would make sense for us to go along with his suspicions. Lhuna?
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 05:41 PM
I'm still getting seer vibes from Boro. Look at how defensive of Lommy he is. I feel if he was not the seer, or even a wolf impersonating a seer, he wouldn't be this consistent. I'm gonna run with that assumption for now.
Could be. I am personally not sure either way, but repeat, I suck at spotting Gifteds (I mean... *glances at both Kit and sally*). So I think your assumption may be perfectly plausible. No harm if you run with it, no harm if I vaguely run with it as test-theory, or if anyone else does with it however they fell.
If he really hasn't dreamt of a wolf until now, he can't have all three of them figured out now. The fact that they're listed in a row like this makes me suspect that he doesn't know any of them and has dreamt of another innocent. With our luck, he dreamt of Legate.
Yeah, doubt it. (And I hope he didn't dream of me... that would not even make much sense!!!)
I still think it would make sense for us to go along with his suspicions. Lhuna?
She has definitely been on my watchlist, for a loooong time. May not be a bad pick. Can see how the situation develops on the Living Thread later in the Day.
One more post I have ready coming up, then I'm off to bed for a while.
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 05:42 PM
Okay, apologies for having spammed with some posts, but hey, at least they are short. I'll absolutely impose a limit on myself not to write my classic long posts here at least. Oh look, three lines already just explaining what I'm not gonna do. Four lines now. Ok, enough.
Just a remark:
Anyway, the whole discussion of my attitude about "Sally the hunter" is pretty theoretical. You have to understand I was 90% sure she was a wolf. 90% of my brain was "I don't trust her, I don't trust her, I don't trust her let's kill her". The remaining 10% was "but ok what if she is actualy the hunter? what then?" and my brain's answer was "well it's just gonna be fun and it would be epic if she stabbed a wolf". I will readily admit that I was arguing for lynching a potential hunter making sense just because I wanted to get Sally lynched because I was convinced she was a wolf, not the hunter, so I kinda twisted my whole logic around that. I see I'm still doing it to a degree... :D
You don't need to tell me I was wrong about Sally, and that I was stupid, and that I literally pressed my fellow villagers to lynch our hunter. I perhaps ignored whether it's strategically wise because I was too blinded by my conviction that Sally was bluffing. So yes, I shot us in the foot a little, and you can be angry and frustrated about that, but I truly thought I was doing what's best for the village.
This makes me 90% think Lommy is innocent. There was a time I was veeeeeery suspicous of her and Lottie, but it changed later. Also incidentally pretty much agree with this:
Also I'm just gonna say that personally I think Lottie's "oh please Sally don't hunt me I'm innocent!!!" looks pretty innocent (especially paired with her Huey vote). I mean I guess she might be a brilliant wolf, but my infamous logic tells me she's unlikely to be one.
Zil, on the other hand, is shady as Ephel Dúath in early autumn. He's horribly inquisitive and been so before, but the whole playing style... like I said, on first Day I even didn't realise how much he posted.
Anyways. I am soon going to bed, but before I go, I will repost some clearly formulated list of what I reckon we should think about so it's easily visible and so that any of you who are around when I'm asleep can take that into account (or at least those innocent of us, anyway :smokin: )...
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 05:48 PM
I suck at spotting Gifteds
Me, too, that's why I'm so excited! :D
Can see how the situation develops on the Living Thread later in the Day.
Definitely gonna wait and see how things develop. Not suggesting that we make up our mind right now.
Okay, apologies for having spammed with some posts,
The Dead Thread is for spamming,
And that's just what we'll do!
:smokin:
Rikae
05-10-2020, 05:51 PM
Yeah. Let's make sure we have enough time to talk this through AND vote (I don't know how are all of your schedules, but we can't do this last-minute, obviously). What do we want to do? Do we want to try to agree on a person (or ideally, some list of a few, in case we pick one and they say "I'm the Seer!" just before we send our votes), so maybe like "whom we think is most likely a Wolf" and then vote for them all at once? Is there a time of the Day we can all be around (sometime shortly before our DL, maybe?) so that we can just vote simultaneously?
Mac & I, at least, will be around at the QT deadline.
Kitanna
05-10-2020, 05:53 PM
Zil, on the other hand, is shady as Ephel Dúath in early autumn. He's horribly inquisitive and been so before, but the whole playing style... like I said, on first Day I even didn't realise how much he posted.
I'll probably cast a vote for him. He has been very vocal, not always saying much and definitely pushed me into the open. I mean, I shot myself in the foot, but he definitely pushed the issue.
Rikae
05-10-2020, 05:54 PM
What do you (not you G55) think about Eonwe? He just posted this:
I think that means we have 3 Days (I see Boro said 4 earlier). The worst case scenario:
ToDay: We quarantine a Good. 9 good: 4 bad.
ToNight: Infectors infect a Good. 8 good: 4 bad.
ToMorrow: We quarantine a Good. 7 good: 4 bad.
ToMorrow Night: Infectors infect a Good. 6 good: 4 bad.
OverMorrow (does anyone ever use that term in this game? this seems like a useful way to reference it): We quarantine a Good. 5 good: 4 bad.
OverMorrow Night: Infectors infect a Good. 4 good: 4 bad. Infectors win.
So we actually have toDay, toMorrow, and the Day after toMorrow to catch the Infectors.
Now, this is a reasonable thing for innocents to think about, but in my experience, it more often comes from wolves.
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 05:59 PM
So, if y'all can speak your mind on this, and act on this (anytime when you are around)?
I think we should:
1. Make a shortlist of candidates for our vote. (Multiple names because what if we pick X and then X says "hey I'm a Seer".) We can start with putting Lhuna there as one, since both me and Mac seem to think it a decent idea. (Anyway obviously, we need to coordinate and all cast our actual vote for the same person... I hope it's obvious why.)
2. Decide on a time when we cast our votes. (Sometime after we've all had the chance to make the input and still enough before our DL to actually cast our votes. I mean we don't really need to set a time, but we just should make sure we have enough time to all be around between our decision and the actual DL.) I, for instance, after some ten hours from now, could be around basically more or less all the time, to a degree. I should be able to steal myself at least some time during the last hour before the DL for sure.
3. Before the time decided in step (2.), pick one person form the shortlist made in (1.) and cast the actual votes. (No, really?)
4. Generally otherwise talk about stuff, any ideas, suspicions, questions... and have a good time.
Public service announcement end. Farewell, comrades?
EDIT: see ya posting, folks. Good. But it's seriously 3 AM here, so I'm gonna reply anything more complicated... when I have... braaaaaains... but good to hear people can be around at DL, and stuff... See you around!
Kitanna
05-10-2020, 05:59 PM
:)What do you (not you G55) think about Eonwe? He just posted this:
Now, this is a reasonable thing for innocents to think about, but in my experience, it more often comes from wolves.
I didn't pay a lot of attention to him after my Day 2 analysis, but I thought he might be a submarine wolf based on his voting habits.
I don't think this alone damns him, but combined with other factors...
I'm also hoping to keep an eye on Lhuna. She's been raising alarm bells for me since end of Day 2
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 06:00 PM
We should try and reach a consensus before we cast our votes. Hui threw his vote away, but Gala is still lurking in the shadows (well, she's lurking in plain sight, actually) to cast her vote and mess us up.
Legate of Amon Lanc
05-10-2020, 06:02 PM
Yeah, to me Steve was also a bit of a submarinewolf-looking. I mean he's often a submarine.
Ok, but now seriously goodnight (not Night).
Kitanna
05-10-2020, 06:04 PM
We should try and reach a consensus before we cast our votes. Hui threw his vote away, but Gala is still lurking in the shadows (well, she's lurking in plain sight, actually) to cast her vote and mess us up.
I'm for Legate's[/] shortlist and getting in a consensus before our DL.
For my own shortlist I put Zil at the top, followed by [b]Eonwe and Lhuna. I'm inclined to believe the Boro is seer theory and if that's true, Lommy is likely innocent too.
Rikae
05-10-2020, 06:04 PM
2. 3/4ths of you are as suspicious as suspicion can be.
Which could easily be the number of living a Boroseer hasn't dreamt of yet, which would mean he'd dreamt of three living innocents. Lommy, Brinn and ...?
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 06:20 PM
What do you (not you G55) think about Eonwe? He just posted this:
Well since you ask ;) - he's better at math than Boro, and he fact-checks other people's posts carefully rather than accepting them at face value.
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 06:27 PM
Hui threw his vote away
For a noble cause! :D
Seriously [or far from so], a request for Nog: if you could do a pretend ++Brin vote from the QT before saying it's actually ++whoever, that would make everybody's day. (unless it's actually Brin) :D
Galadriel55
05-10-2020, 06:28 PM
Zil at the top, followed by Eonwe and Lhuna
I could consider that.
Rikae
05-10-2020, 06:37 PM
Seriously [or far from so], a request for Nog: if you could do a pretend ++Brin vote from the QT before saying it's actually ++whoever, that would make everybody's day. (unless it's actually Brin) :D
Seconded
Kitanna
05-10-2020, 06:44 PM
Seriously [or far from so], a request for Nog: if you could do a pretend ++Brin vote from the QT before saying it's actually ++whoever, that would make everybody's day. (unless it's actually Brin) :D
Thirded
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 06:44 PM
Now, this is a reasonable thing for innocents to think about, but in my experience, it more often comes from wolves.
Yeah, not liking it. It implies that it's totally ok not to lynch a wolf toDay or toMorrow or etc.
Macalaure
05-10-2020, 06:45 PM
Seriously [or far from so], a request for Nog: if you could do a pretend ++Brin vote from the QT before saying it's actually ++whoever, that would make everybody's day. (unless it's actually Brin) :D
Fourtified!
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