A New Game!

[gilraën]

When she brought him the piece of of the tree for a safe journey.

[Firondoiel]

Correct gilraen!

2. What kind of runes were on Balin's tomb?

Scores:
gilraen - 1

[alaklondewen]

They were Daeron's Runes.

[Firondoiel]

Correct! You're quick too! smilies/smile.gif

3. What was Brandir's father's name?

Scores:
gilraen - 1
alaklondewen - 1

[ April 09, 2003: Message edited by: Firondoiel ]

[alquadae]

Handir

[Firondoiel]

You're right!

4. What two men fought for possession of Theodred's body at the Fords of Isen?

Scores:
gilraen - 1
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1

[gilraën]

Grimbold found two great axemen fighting for possession of Theodred's body.

[Firondoiel]

Yes Grimbold slew one of the axemen, but who slew the other?

[gilraën]

Elfhelm, sorry I misunderstood the question.

[Firondoiel]

correct!

5. According to the Tale of Years, in what year did Elrond wed Celebrian?

Scores:
gilraen - 2
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1

[The Saucepan Man]

Year 109 in the Third Age.

[alquadae]

TA 109

[Firondoiel]

Whoa, ya'll were both posting the correct answer the same minute! But the Saucepan Man got his post in first.

6. Who was Aghan and what tale was he in?

Scores:
gilraen - 2
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1
The Saucepan Man - 1

[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: Firondoiel ]

[gilraën]

story of the Faithful Stone?

edit: Unfinished Tales

[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: gilraën ]

[Firondoiel]

The Story of the Faithful Stone was what I was looking for, but you haven't answered the first part of the question.

[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: Firondoiel ]

[gilraën]

He was a Druadan, a 'magician'.

[Firondoiel]

You're right.

7. What was the language of Numenor?

Scores:
gilraen - 3
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1
The Saucepan Man - 1

[Eruanna]

Adûnaic.

[Firondoiel]

Correct Eruanna!

8. The city of Gondolin lasted for how many years?

Scores:
gilraen - 3
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1
The Saucepan Man - 1
Eruanna - 1

[elven maiden Earwen]

384

[Firondoiel]

You're correct!

9. Finrod Felagund had no wife, but who did he love?

Scores:
gilraen - 3
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1
The Saucepan Man - 1
Eruanna - 1
elven maiden Earwen - 1

[Eruanna]

Amarië was the beloved of Finrod, she stayed in Aman and did not make the journey to M-E.

[Gil-Galad]

i better make a note to say if someone doesn't anwser it might go of the Forum first list

[Firondoiel]

I'm sorry, I keep forgetting to come up with a new question! You're correct Eruanna.

10. What does "mithril" mean?

Scores:
gilraen - 3
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1
The Saucepan Man - 1
Eruanna - 2
elven maiden Earwen - 1

[Eruanna]

Mithril means True Silver.

[Firondoiel]

Sorry Eruanna. Mithril was called True Silver, but it did not mean that.

[Eruanna]

The only other name that I know for Mithril is Moria-silver. Is that it?

(Mithril is the Elvish name...mith means grey and ril means brilliance....grey brilliance doesn't sound too good
smilies/frown.gif )

[ April 25, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

[Beren87]

Ah, your close. It's Sindarin meaning grey-gleam.

[Firondoiel]

Beren is right. The final scores are...

Scores:
gilraen - 3
alaklondewen - 1
alquadae - 1
The Saucepan Man - 1
Eruanna - 2
elven maiden Earwen - 1
Beren87 - 1

I now hand the thread to gilraen.

[gilraën]

Sorry for the delay, I've been away on a short break. I'll post my questions later, when I've unpacked etc.

[The Saucepan Man]

smilies/biggrin.gif Gilraen, I love it that you checked the Downs before unpacking. That just about sums up what being a B-D'er is all about. smilies/cool.gif

Surely worthy of mention in the "You know your obsessed with the Barrow Downs when ..." thread in the Barrow Downs forum. smilies/biggrin.gif

[gilraën]

Thanks Saucepan man smilies/biggrin.gif

I'll post 2 questions at a time to speed things up. If that's not okay let me know.

1 What was Ilweran the Bridge of Heaven otherwise known as?

2 Who created it(Ilweran the Bridge of Heaven)?

[elven maiden Earwen]

1.the straight way or road?
2.Valar?

[gilraën]

Sorry, no to both but your 'hot' on the second question.

[elven maiden Earwen]

2. ethir Maia or Eru?

[gilraën]

You were 'hotter' with your first answer, but it's not specific enough.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Alue or Manwe

[gilraën]

No smilies/smile.gif If you knew the answer to the first question you'd get this one straight off smilies/wink.gif smilies/smile.gif

[Beren87]

Rainbow Bridge and Oromë.

[gilraën]

Yes Beren. smilies/smile.gif

Beren 2

3/ "Saruman in his degradation had become, not a dragon but a _____" What is missing?

4/ What did roses of Imloth Melui remind Ioreth of?

[Gil-Galad]

3. bat

i don't knwo the other one

[gilraën]

No it's not Bat, sorry.

[Beruthiel]

4.Kingsfoil or Athelas

is no.3 mentioned in LOTR?

[ May 01, 2003: Message edited by: Beruthiel ]

[gilraën]

Beruthiel correct. No 3 is a quote from The Unfinished Tales.

Beren 2
Beruthiel 1

[Beren87]

3. Saruman in his degradation had become, not a dragon but a jackdaw

A jackdaw is a Eurasian bird famous for thievery.

[gilraën]

Correct Beren

Beren 3
Beruthiel 1

5/What connection did John Jethro Rashbold have with Lord of the Rings?

6/How many Ruling Stewards 'ruled' before Denethor II, father of Boromir and Faramir?

[Beruthiel]

No. 6 is 26 but I can't get no. 5!!

[gilraën]

Beruthiel, how many before Denethor?

[Beruthiel]

Right I'm sorry, that would make it 25 then, correct?

[gilraën]

Yes Beruthiel, correct smilies/smile.gif

Beren 3
Beruthiel 2

[Beren87]

Isn't he one of the members or scholars of The Philippine Tolkien Society? The society is his connection anyway, I found that.

[gilraën]

He was a member, but there is another connection.

[Beren87]

I can't find anything really specific. He was on a New York radio show and answered quite a few Tolkien questions...he's apparently a really big scholar, with a special expertise around Quenya.

[gilraën]

5/What connection did John Jethro Rashbold have with Lord of the Rings?

Answer - He was JRR Tolkien.

[gilraën]

Beren 3
Beruthiel 2

7/ From whom did Prince Imrahil's alleged elvish blood come from?

8/ what does the betrayer of Gondolin and the forger of Anglachel/Gurthang have in common?

[elven maiden Earwen]

7/Mithrellas who was taken by Imrazôr the Númenórean, to be his wife

8/They are related or they are evil and they both died in Gondillion by kindred of Aredhel

[gilraën]

7/ correct

8/ which is it? related or evil? smilies/smile.gif


Beren 3
Beruthiel 2
elven maiden Earwen 1

[elven maiden Earwen]

8/evil

[Beren87]

Answer - He was JRR Tolkien.

Do explain. I'm curious.

[gilraën]

Rashbold is a translation of Tolkien. It is explained in HoME IX. It was a 'fictitious' name used when writing the Notion Club Papers.

"The surname of the apparently speechless undergraduate John Jethro Rashbold is a translation of Tolkien (Toll-Kuhn: see letters no. 165 and note 1)."

[The Saucepan Man]

8/ They are related - Maeglin, the betrayer of Gondolin, was the son of Eol, the forger of Anglachel/Gurthang.

[gilraën]

Asolutely correct smilies/smile.gif


Beren 3
Beruthiel 2
elven maiden Earwen 1
Saucepan Man 1

I'll be back shortly with the last 2 questions.

[gilraën]

9/ Who was Legolas' Grandfather, how/where did he die?

10/ Who were the two named Rangers of Ithlien with Faramir?

Two easy questions to finish off this round. smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

9/ Oropher. He was slain in the Battle of Dagorlad, while leading a joint force of Elves from Greenwood and Lorien.

10/ Mablung and Damrod.

Edit: In case you need more, "Oropher was slain in the first assault upon Mordor, rushing forward at the head of his most doughty warriors before Gil-Galad had given the signal for the advance" (impetuous fool smilies/smile.gif ).

[ May 13, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[gralin musicteeth]

Looks like Beren and Saucepan have tied. got a tie breaker there Gilraën?

[gilraën]

Okay then, I thought this had been forgotten smilies/smile.gif

Beren 3
Beruthiel 2
elven maiden Earwen 1
Saucepan Man 3

Tie-breaker

Where does the word Palathrin refer to?

[Gil-Galad]

can i still anwser?


Aqualnde, the elves taht made the Palantari for the Numernoreans?

[gilraën]

Gil-Galad I'm sorry but this is a tie-breaker for Beren and Saucepan Man, as one of them has already won.

BTW that's not the right answer. smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

No idea, but I'll take a guess at Tirion on Tuna.

[Beren87]

Strangly, I have no idea either.

Does it have to do with some marsh?

[gilraën]

No it is an obscure reference to where Isildur lost his life.

[The Saucepan Man]

Is it the Gladden Fields, then?

[gilraën]

Yes Saucepan Man, your turn smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Oh good. I've not had a go at this one yet. Now, for a question ...

1) What was the name originally given to Finrod?

[Eruanna]

Finrod the Faithful?
Or do you mean a name other than Finrod? smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Or do you mean a name other than Finrod?

Yes. smilies/tongue.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Wasn't it Inglor or Ingold?

[Beren87]

Findarato! (Quenya, don'tchaknow)

[The Saucepan Man]

The original name for Finrod was Inglor Felagund, so Sophia is correct.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 1

2) What was believed to be in Mim's sack?

[Beren87]

The original name for Finrod was Inglor Felagund, so Sophia is correct

No it's not, Felagund was a name given to him by the Dwarves, meaning cave-hewer, because he excavated Nargothrond.

[The Saucepan Man]

I meant the original name given to the character by Tolkien. In footnote 20 to the History of Galadriel and Celeborn in the UT Christopher Tolkien states:

Before the revised edition of Lord of the Rings was published in 1966 my father changed Finrod to Finarfin, while his son Felagund, previously called Inglor Felagund, became Finrod Felagund.

[Beren87]

I meant the original name given to the character by Tolkien.

Ahh...

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Roots and small stones?

[The Saucepan Man]

Roots and small stones?


I need more. smilies/evil.gif smilies/wink.gif I have in mind the mysterious contents that remained after Mim had shared with the outlaws the roots referred to as earth-bread.

[ May 19, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

From the footnotes of Narn i Hin Hurin: The mystery of the other things in Mim's sack is not explained. The only other statement on the subject is a hastily scribbled note, which suggests that they were ingots of gold disguised as roots, and refers to Mim seeking "for old treasures of a dwarf-house near the 'flat stones'" Possibly Gold, then, but in the long run it's uncertain.

[The Saucepan Man]

ingots of gold disguised as roots

That's what I was looking for.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 2

3) What was the Sindarin name for the lands between the rivers Poros and Harnen?

[ May 20, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Harondor

[The Saucepan Man]

Harondor it was. This is rapidly turning into a runaway victory for Sophia. smilies/wink.gif Any other challengers out there?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 3

4) What was the name of Saeros' father?

[Annunfuiniel]

Ithilbor(sp?). Sorry it took a while, I had to look that up from my UT. smilies/smile.gif

[Eruanna]

I believe his father was Ithilbor.

Whoops, not quick enough. smilies/wink.gif

[ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Ithilbor it is. Annun got there first, so:

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 3
Annunfuiniel: 1

5) What was the name given to Galadriel by her mother, Earwen?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Nerwen smilies/wink.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

You are, of course, correct, Earwen. smilies/wink.gif smilies/smile.gif

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 3
Annunfuiniel: 1
elven maiden Earwen : 1

6) Who died in an unfortunate incident involving a tipping wheelchair and a flight of garden steps?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Lalia Clayhanger Took (known as the Fat) wife of Thain Fortinbras II.

[The Saucepan Man]

And Sophia races further into the lead. smilies/wink.gif

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 4
Annunfuiniel: 1
elven maiden Earwen : 1

7) Who or what was the "Throng-cleaver"?

[gilraën]

Hadhafang - Arwen's sword, in the movies, a name devised for a sword by Tolkien, but never used in his stories.

[The Saucepan Man]

No, that's not the answer that I'm thinking of ...

[gilraën]

Sangahyando, a corsair of Umbar, and great grandson of Castamir?

[The Saucepan Man]

That's the fellow. smilies/smile.gif

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 4
Annunfuiniel: 1
elven maiden Earwen: 1
gilraën: 1


8) Which two characters in Lord of the Rings were born in the same year?

[gilraën]

Samwise Gamgee and Faramir, son of Denethor and brother of Boromir.

[The Saucepan Man]

Correct, gilraën. smilies/smile.gif

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 4
Annunfuiniel: 1
elven maiden Earwen: 1
gilraën: 2

9) Which members of Thorin's company were not Longbeards?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I believe Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur. For Dwarves, that is... if you're being exceedingly exact, Bilbo and Gandalf weren't either smilies/wink.gif.

Sophia

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, it was the Dwarves that I was looking for, Sophia. smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/wink.gif

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 5
Annunfuiniel: 1
elven maiden Earwen: 1
gilraën: 2

Well, it looks like you're up next, Sophia. smilies/smile.gif But, before that, my final question ...

10) What was a sandastan?

[gilraën]

'Dirnaith'= wedge shaped battle formation used by the Dunedain, [(quenya) Sandastan 'shield-barrier'].

Congratulations Sophia smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

That is correct, gilraën. smilies/smile.gif

Final scores:

Sophia the Thunder Mistress: 5
Annunfuiniel: 1
elven maiden Earwen: 1
gilraën: 3

Take it away, Sophia ...

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yay! Thanks, Saucepan.

1) Of whom was it said:
All flowers spring as she passes and open if she glances upon them; and all birds sing at her coming.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Melian or Luthien?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

neither, Earwen smilies/wink.gif.

Sophia

[gilraën]

It was Orome's better half, Yavanna's little sister - Vana.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

It was indeed.

gilraen- 1

2) What grew on Cerin Amroth?

[Mahal]

A mallorn tree

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

A comprehensive list please. smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

To the left stood a great mound, covered with a sward of grass as green as Spring-time in the Eldar Days. Upon it, as a double crown, grew two circles of trees: the outer had bark of snowy white, and were leafless but beautiful in their shapely nakedness; the inner were mallorn-trees of great height, still arrayed in pale gold. High amid the branches of a towering tree that stood in the centre of all there gleamed a white flet. At the feet of of the trees, and all about the green hillsides the grass was studded with small golden flowers shaped like stars [elanor]. Among them, nodding on slender stalks, were other flowers, white and palest green [niphredil]: they glimmered as a mist amid the rich hue of the grass.

Is that comprehensive enough? smilies/wink.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Perfect. I wanted both types of trees and both types of flowers. Grass was an extra smilies/wink.gif.

gilraen- 1
Saucepan- 1

How old was Thorongil at the time of Gondor's defeat of the Corsairs?

[The Saucepan Man]

I'll guess at 49, on the basis that it was the last act of his "great journeys and errantries", which concluded in 2980.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes, your guess would be correct.

gilraen- 1
Saucepan- 2

Next question will be along as soon as I have time to think of it... promise.

Sophia

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Who did Bilbo's great uncle Fastolph marry?

[The Saucepan Man]

Pansy Baggins.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Correct Saucepan. Now who's running away with the thread? smilies/wink.gif

gilraen- 1
Saucepan- 3

5) Who was Othrod?

[Beren87]

A lord of Orcs, he was slain by Turin in the First Age.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Of course.

Beren87- 1
gilraen- 1
Saucepans- 3

7) What was the hill under which Dol Guldur was built?

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

[gilraën]

Amon Lanc?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Of course. smilies/biggrin.gif

7) Who was the High Captain of Angband?

Gilraen-2
Saucepan-3
Beren- 1

[alaklondewen]

Is it Gothmog, dearest Mistress of Thunder?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

It is, it is, Alak.

Saucepans- 3
gilraen- 2
Beren- 1
Alaklondewen-1

8) Who was Elemmire?

[alaklondewen]

The elf who wrote the Lament of the Two Trees...Aldudénië.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Yes, Alak.

9) Who was the son of Tarciryan?

Saucepan- 3
gilraen- 2
Beren- 1
Alak- 2

[Beruthiel]

Earnil?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Indeed, Earnil I it was.

Saucepans- 3
gilraen- 2
Alak- 2
Beren- 1
Beruthiel- 1

10) What was the name of the third child of Finduilas(II)?

Easy I know, but I've been asking a lot of questions, I'm burnt out.

Sophia

[The Barrow-Wight]

Please continue this game in a new thread.

Thanks

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