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Originally Posted by Väinämöinen
I have always wondered more about Sauron and the orcs. After all, Morgoth created the orcs as a race, and Sauron was of a different temperament. Does anyone know of any specific passages from the Lord of the Rings or Unfinished Tales that mentions Sauron's view of the matter?
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Sauron apparently looked on the Orcs as nothing more than a tool. There is a passage from
The Two Towers that seems to reflect his view of them.
Though he knew Shelob took them for food, he wasn't concerned.
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And Orcs, they were useful slaves, but he had them in plenty. If now and again Shelob caught them to stay her appetite, she was welcome: he could spare them.
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Shelob's Lair
Looks as though Sauron didn't care about Orcs at all, beyond their service to him.
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Originally Posted by LadyBrooke
Hmm...but at the same time, unless my memory serves me wrong, wasn't Morgoth supposed to be quite like Aule? Of course, Aule created the dwarves out of tenderness and impatience, so there are the differences...I believe, personally, that Sauron wouldn't have been opposed to creating things to serve him.
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It's just that the creation of the orcs seems to me such a great cruelty and perversion that it could only have originated with Morgoth. Sauron no doubt found them useful, but the question is if he would have gone out of his way to invent them in the first place, but who can say. |
As for the "maker" of Orcs,
The Silmarillion seems to make it clear that they were the design of Morgoth.
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....thus did Melkor breed the hideous race of the Orcs in envy and mockery of the Elves...
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Of the Coming of the Elves