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 I guess he will edit those posts into a narration later.
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01-26-2008, 02:46 PM
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01-26-2008, 02:53 PM
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So we can gloat? I say YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
 I never thought I'd enjoy wolfing some day, but I did, at least from time to time. Mostly thanks to my awesome fellows, we had a great team spirit and our nightly discussions were hilarious. But I still prefer being all nice & innocent, suits me better as I'm afraid I'm very bad at being dishonest.
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01-26-2008, 03:01 PM
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Ah, but you're good at being evil too, as we can plainly see! I'm all for gloating as well, but the only ones here are our fellows. Pity really. Well, I am in need of some sustenance (aka I'm starving!) so I'll be back in about an hour or so. Well done my lupine ladies!
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01-26-2008, 03:17 PM
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Nicely done ladies! I was indeed the cobbler. My investigations revealed that Roa was a werewolf (I felt bad after hearing that) and that Legate was indeed innocent.
I see I was just suspicious enough to be lynched at the right time. I like it when a plan comes together like that. This was my first werewolf game here, but I've played it many a time with friends and read through a good amount of the games here. Thanks for making it a good one.
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01-26-2008, 03:24 PM
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Woman of Secret Shadow
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Oh gosh, I was so sure you were a seer or some other nasty thing.
 And I actually felt almost bad lynching you! That was just wonderfully played.
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01-26-2008, 03:28 PM
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Shady She-Penguin
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McCaber, you were awesome.
Sally, thank you so much for saving and posting those!  However, it seems you've posted one PM of mine twice and marked the change of Night incorrectly... but those are minor details...I will write a longer ramble about my feelings/thoughts/misfortunes later, so watch out... 
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01-26-2008, 03:34 PM
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Woman of Secret Shadow
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Some thoughts
Thanks to Volo for the game. The idea was interesting but too unbalanced, I think. It took only one mis-lynch and suddenly a game that looked impossible to win became impossible to lose.
But the narrations were funny (thanks also to Leggie). I'm sorry about my trial day, I wasn't lying low deliberately or anything, I was just so unbelievably tired that I didn't quite have the energy to post anything. Thanks for my wolfy team. Despite the early losses we managed quite well, and, as Lommy put it, we had a great team spirit and hilarious discussions. By the way, I've been a wolf in half of the games I've played now (and a cobbler once). Quite nice. I'll post more when I know all the roles & something else occurs to me.
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Night One....(including a couple from our mod-god
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From : Volo To : satansaloser2005 Date : 2008-01-14 12:42 Title : WW42 ROLE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are a Werewolf! Your fellows will be revealed to you during Night1. ================================================== ============================== From : Volo To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 14:12 Title : Wolves! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello dear Wolves! Congratulations on surviving! You may now PM one another at Nights. ModVolo PS: Friend Valier would like to inform you that she'll be around only after six hours or so from now (deadline time). ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 14:21 Title : Full moooooooooooooooooooooon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello fellows. I'd love to start with a cheerful greeting but I'm afraid I can't. Really. I think we're going to lose this game: we have no kill toNight and one of us (=me) is practically lynched already. The gifteds and lynch-informations are going to make up a list of known innocents really quickly. I really can't see us winning this game, at least not with a normal style. So, I think we should play a totally crazy game. Like, vote for the same person (no one is ever going to believe we're all wolves if we vote the same person, however silly the reason), come out as gifteds and lie ruthlessly about the roles of the lynched. It should be fun. I've been toying with the idea of coming out as a seer toMorrow. I could say I've been under so much suspicion that I'm afraid I will be lynched. I would announce Nogrod and possibly someone else too as wolves - or claim somebody innocent. Then, just imagine, if you all "believed" me, we could possibly get one 95% sure gifted lynched and no one would catch us all. It's be hilarious. Yes, I'm quite sure Noggie is gifted, because I'm a wolf and TM seemed very ordoish. As to what gifted, I think he might be the assassin/hunter thing, as he joked to me in RL that he's going to kill me on Night1. I've already discussed these things with Aganzir to a little extent - pardon us, but Volo was as lenient as to tell us each others' identities a bit too early and we had happened to plan to meet today anyway - but I'd very much like to hear everybody else's opinions - especially if you'd like traditional-style wolfing or something totally crazy, and if something crazy, then what do you think of my suggestions? -Lommie ================================================== ============================== From : Aganzir To : Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 15:42 Title : Howl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder what it is that Sauron attracts only female warriors this time... Brinn, you can't believe how happy I was when Volo *eventually* told you are a wolf (he's the second greatest liar I've ever met. I asked him about my fellows after my pre-day, and he gave me different names every day after that). The first time you're wolf here, sally? I'm rather looking forward to this. You're such a mad player. And I'm happy you are a wolf also, Valier. You would have been among my killing preferences otherwise - I found you scary. Lommy m'dear... Nice to get to prowl with you at last. Let's hope it lasts more than this one night. I'm sorry to lose such players as Roa and Greenie. If not for McCaber failing to vote, Roa would probably be here among us now. I think he deserves to be lynched for that. Okay. My opinion is the same as Lommy's - that we don't have good chances to win. The reasons? *numbers. There are 6 gifteds, and even if there was a cobbler, it's quite a big number. *seers. This is not entirely fair, but as it's Volo's own fault I don't mind sharing it (not that it couldn't be guessed anyway). I was discussing with him in MSN and he said "you'd better get rid of the defenders during stage 1." So there are surely at least two of them. *it's too easy to find known innocents. Usually it would take a defender two nights to find out if their dream is gifted or a wolf, but with the pre days they have one known wolf / innocent by tomorrow. In the worst case, two of us are revealed this early. And for every lynched wolf whose role is revealed, there's one known innocent. *we will soon face a situation when the known innocents outnumber our chances to kill them. When that happens our battle is lost. I agree about Nog probably being a gifted. Menel could be also, or am I reading too much? Quote:
I think we can't afford to lynch Lommy on Day 1 if we want to be rid of Nogrod. My guess is that he would be protected the night after lynching Lommy - and by very bad luck it'd even be a ranger who received Lommy's role. But if Nog is a hunter/assassin thing, he's not too dangerous for us after he's killed one (and that is Lommy, if she's not lynched before that). So yup, the best idea would probably be to get him lynched before he has a chance to kill. We must remember that decisive vote thing. Surely we don't want anyone to be able to have themselves protected? If possible, we should at least try that one of us is the one to cast the decisive vote. I would love to play a crazy game. But if we want to win, sacrifices must be made. The best way would probably be that a couple of us ruthlessly lynched the others and tried to make it through by themselves. Anyway, I prefer the idea of losing but playing a totally unforeseen and memorable game. Labelling all the fellows as innocents? Seriously trying to lynch all of us? Playing gifteds just for fun (that might even reveal some of them from their hiding places)? Lying about the lynched player's role? Lying about receiving the lynched player's role when actually didn't? All voting for the same person? Making a bandwagon just out of the blue when it's already quite probable that someone else will be lynched? The thing is, the first person to reveal something is generally believed. It'd be nice to see if that's only because the first person to reveal is usually not lying. At the beginning, I thought I would try not to lie at once. If we aim for winning, I'm willing to continue like that, but in case we're going to make this a total chaos I'm just happy to abandon truth. Anyway. Whatever our goal is, I'd like to have a strategy. I've never before got to play with a proper strategy, and it'd be very nice to try that. To even find a way to discuss during the days would be great. What say you? -Agan ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 19:31 Title : Re: Howl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Urgh, I was really hoping Volo wouldn't reveal to everyone the number of wolves and gifteds left alive. That's another disadvantage towards us... Since I've realised I'm a really bad guesser (especially after Nogrod's game), I decided to play as an ordinary for my Day and throw out my suspicions since I had a 2/3 chance of being wrong. In the case of Nogrod/Lommy, I was split between the two so I chose to go after Lommy...very sorry about that one, Lommy... Obviously those of us who did suspect Lommy cannot simply drop it...that would be suspicious in itself. But at the same time I'd rather not get her lynched because Nogrod as a known innocent (and probably gifted) would be plain dangerous. So while we should still suspect Lommy, maybe we should redirect attention to someone else. Lommy may still be suspicious, but there are other innocents who have been suspected too...Nogrod, Menel, Zali come to mind. While I'd love to get Nogrod out of the way toMorrow or the next Night, once he's dead Lommy certainly will be lynched next. Of course, it'd still be better to for Nogrod to die before Lommy does... We are at a disadvantage with so many gifteds (especially two seers...eek!), but at least with so many, it should be easier to eliminate them. What I'm worried about with the seers is that they're probably going to dream their living opponent from their Day and that means two different seers might know the identity of two different wolves come Day 2. When it comes to Night pickings, we will have to be careful with whom we pick. Some ordinaries already lynched a lot of people are going to assume innocent...such as Might, Shasta, Groin, and Gil...these newbies/no shows/suicidals were easy for us to lynch but most people won't see them as suspicious in the long run. So I think whenever Nogrod, Ka, Zali, or Kath gets killed, a wolf will be heavily at risk. Of course, that's a lot of people, so we might just have to sacrifice a wolf early on... I don't know...we may be at a disadvantage, but I still think we have a fair shot. Only one of us has to survive for us to win, and it's quite possible as long as we can eliminate all the seers. Plus we have a cobbler(s) on our side who can also examine the dead. I'm totally for playing crazy as long as it means completely confusing everyone for a win. Revealing is a good idea, though it only works for a Day or so. Starting a new bandwagon from nowhere can work (we all know Aganzir can pull that off real well ). Okay, a thought just came to mind...it could work for toMorrow or afterwards: When I think about it, if someone really wanted to sacrifice themself, we might actually have a good chance of winning. If a wolf started the bandwagon against another wolf and every single other wolf ganged up too and voted that one wolf, no one would suspect that. Especially if it was a wolf who made the deciding vote to lynch another wolf. Because while it's normal for wolf-on-wolf votes to occur, I don't think the innocents will expect every wolf to do a wolf-on-wolf vote. It'd take them a long time (if ever) for them to figure it out...though it'd only work if only we were the ones responsible for starting the bandwagon and not the innocents. No wolf should try to make their vote look like a safe wolf-on-wolf vote; we should all play boldly. Even better, if an innocent mistakenly tried to save the wolf getting lynched, they could easily be targeted the next Day. But of course, we'd have to have a wolf who wants to sacrifice themself like that...and whoever that is need to be able to put up a pretty good show, but still manage to gain the trust (and not votes) of at least some innocents (a unanimous vote would make this pointless). I don't know...it could just be crazy enough to work. What do you guys think? We may be at the disadvantage, but I still want a shot at winning. After all, I haven't managed to win a game since Legate's... -Brinn ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 19:38 Title : *evil raucous laughter* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ah, to return from work and find a message aligning me with the likes of you all. Huzzah, an army of she-wolves which shall trample our village like none has been trampled before! *more evil raucous laughter* Okay, enough of that. I agree with Lommie. I think at least one of us should come forward as fake gifteds. I actually kind of assumed we might have to do this and so in my analysis of Legate I gave the slightest hint that I myself was a gifted (post 224, where I eliminated four of the five gifteds for Legate's role, and left one unspoken). This was actually a mistake, because I got the counsellor and the guardian mixed up and aligned myself with the latter, a wolf-assisting post. But no matter. Either way I've hopefully managed to give myself the appearance of gifted, which might come in handy later if someone conveniently gets overanalytical with my posts. Whatever butters your toast. What we choose to do with gifteds is up for further discussion, as we can't all just go off half-cocked claiming seership. Course I'm confident a pack of pros like yourselves can come up with quite a cunning plot by the "morning". Brinn, your message just popped up. In response, I agree that those of us that were after Lommie should stay in that direction. The rest of us can go after Noggie if necessary. Divide and conquer of sorts hehe. K I should send this sometime soon as I've got a few assignments due tomorrow that I need to start on before my friend Emily comes over for supper. I'll be around for the rest of my night to reply to any messages and such. Good job surviving the preliminary battles my hairy cohorts. Let's kick this village's tail! ~~Sally~~ ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 19:42 Title : FW: *evil raucous laughter* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay, I'm really going in a bit here. But I just finished reading Brinn's message. The part about the wolf sacrifice in a couple days is something to seriously consider, especially if the first day or two doesn't go in our favor. I hate to have to sacrifice one of our own, but if it helps the group and we have a willing lynchee I'm not completely against the idea. ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-22 21:43 Title : mwahahaha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree, lets turn this village upside!!!! It's a little crappy that we can't talk during the day, so have to make sure we pay attention to what each other is doing, so we know to play along or not to any craziness. I think I will probably be a person of great interest tomorrow. If everyone looks at the days as they go I was on the first day. Quite a few people have voiced suspicion towards me. I think I should play up the innocent as far as it will take me. But I am willing to sacrifice myself. Let me try and see how much confusion I can spread in a few days, if at anytime it looks like I'm going down, let's have a code phrase like....every one's going crazy!! If I say that in the first line of any of my posts, all of you start a bandwagon against me as Brinn suggested. This will at least save a few of you. Since no one would suspect that all the wolves would bandwagon and lynch a fellow. We need to be one of the first if not the first and last to vote for me, sealing my fate. I think all of us should come up with a bit of a plan of their own to mess with everyone and do it. I like the idea of lying about roles, deaths etc... I say we lie about everything. LOL everyone of us should make up something or do something weird or suspicious, then we have a greater chance of one of us sneaking by as innocent. let's come up with something for each of us to do the next day, every night. They won't expect all of us to be bold and weird and not caring if we lynch each other. I do think we should be careful about too many of us arguing, as that does sound a lot like a recent game, where all the wolves went after each other and got lynched. So my plan for tomorrow is to play the innocent, but if it looks like it's not going to work, then I will say (every one's going crazy!!) in the beggining of my post then all of you start voting for me. I really can see me being the object of lynchdom tomorrow, but let's hope I can sway others away from me. I rushed this a bit, but I will be home all night and right up until the day starts, so please I would like to hear back from all of you or some of you...lol ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-22 22:34 Title : Re: mwahahaha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well Valier, I think Lommy will receive more pressure than you, but I'm sure you'll be suspected as well. But I actually agree with Valier's choice to sacrifice herself. Because while Lommy may seem the easier target, I fear if she becomes our sacrifice we will end up with a unanimous vote. With Valier, suspecting her may be sensible to some innocents while others may disagree. Yet I don't think we should all pursue it until we know we're ready to...with Valier's keyword, for example. But we shouldn't gang up on her all at once. I think there should be one of us who actively pursues her from the very start, say Aganzir, since she already suspected her and can be quite persuasive. If Lommy's in serious trouble, it might be good for us to find a way to turn the tables and have people bandwagon towards Valier. And if Lommy managed to make the deciding vote (say if there were a tie), that would take a lot of heat off her. If for some reason Valier doesn't get lynched right away, we can still continue this plan into the next Day (and we'll have another Night to discuss). Surely no one would expect all the wolves to be so persistent on lynching their packmate for multiple Days! It's extremely late, so I'm heading to bed... P.S. I'm going to Belgium this weekend and I haven't decided if I should take my computer or not. The first hotel I'm staying at looks secure enough, but I don't know about the hostel. I'd rather not drag around my laptop, but at the same time I wouldn't want to miss out on the fun. If I don't take my laptop, I'd be missing part of Day 1, Night 2, Day 2, and half of Night 3. Ugh, that's a lot. You know what, I'll really try to bring my laptop as long I know it'll be secure...but I still won't be able to participate as much as I'd like. Sorry for the inconvenience...I'll let you know what happens asap. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 00:04 Title : mwahahahahaha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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I think there will be a lot of pressure on me toMorrow, Nogrod will take care of it. So what do you seriously think if I came out and claimed to be a seer? I would say I was so much suspected that I was afraid I'd get lynched. I could say that Might's post after our trial deadline convinced me of his innocence (because it really was the manifestation of ordoness) and thus I conclude that Noggie is a wolf. I could also say I dreamed of someone this Night and found him/her non-ordo. I think I could go for THE Ka. I could say that she's not an ordo, she herself might believe me if she's gifted like Agan thinks and I could reason coming out with her role by that I considered Agan innocent and Shasta didn't look giftedish, so I guess THE Ka is a wolf and even if not, well, I don't want to die without providing any information. Now, two questions 1) Are there any serious flaws in this plan? 2) Am I overestimating the suspicion and lynch-mood towards myself? And lastly, I'm not sure I understand what does this mean: Quote:
Looking forward to hearing from you (especially comments on my seer-plan)... -Lommy ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 06:31 Title : Re: hello again -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Another idea is to go with the sacrifice Valier plan...have maybe Aganzir start accusations and suddenly Lommy jumps on board. If people still are focused on lynching Lommy, then Lommy could reveal as a seer exposing Valier. And as mentioned, she could say she didn't dream Nogrod because she assumed Might innocent, therefore the former guilty. People would argue whether to lynch Valier or Nogrod...they'd probably choose Valier since she was the one dreamt of. Once proven a wolf, people would actually believe Lommy, so if they lynched Nogrod next and proved him innocent, they'd think it was an honest mistake. And since we could leave the possibility two protectors, she could keep this up for sometime. The only problem is that if Lommy reveals, the real seers might reveal too. The risk of that is people might believe them and lynch Lommy...though the advantage everyone could just assume with her guilt, Valier must be innocent (therefore she should be protected). If we wanted complete chaos, another thing we could do if a real seer reveals in reaction to Lommy is that Valier could reveal as a seer too in retaliation exposing Lommy as a wolf. Then we could have up to four people claiming seership...two would be wolves accurately declaring each other wolves. Who would expect that? Either way, I think one of us is probably going to have to die either toMorrow or the next Day for the rest of us to survive. One thing is that I seriously don't think we have to worry about a seer revealing their role unless one of us does first. The gifteds probably think they have the advantage over us, and so unless they think their life is seriously threatened the seer wouldn't want reveal until later in the game. A seer Lommy or Valier revealing would make sense because, like any other seer, they wouldn't do it unless their own life was threatened. Does that make any sense? I hope so.. Quote:
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I've been toying with the idea of rolling dice about the night kills. That would at least leave the village baffled. The wolf-bandwagon is a nice idea. But that'd need a volunteer who hasn't been suspected that much. If we eg. lynched Lommy like that, there would be someone to say that these people he suspects would be bold enough to lynch their fellow who has already been under heavy suspicion in order to look better. Plus the reasons Brinn stated. Anyway, I'm fine with being the one to suspect Valier. The only problem is that I'm not going to be around at the beginning of the day (first I'm sleeping and then at school). But I see what the situation looks like when I come and decide then what to do. Quote:
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I don't like this kind of reasoning too much, but anyway. Before the game started (with 18 players), I wondered how many there would be of each gifted, and (after Volo's slip) reached the conclusion that two seers and rangers, one hunter and cobbler. My guess was, though, that there would more likely be two cobblers than two hunters. Maybe it's just better we left Rikae alive for now. Though, I don't think we can ever be sure that she's not leaving false cobbler hints. I will post more something gifted-related later, but I must say I've never before played in a game where it's this easy to spot possible gifteds. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 07:42 Title : Re: Good morn' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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Okay must finish paper. I'm out for now. Leaving for class in about an hour so I'll be available until then and that'll be about it until Day starts, so I won't be able to reply after that. Later ladies! ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 11:10 Title : Hmmm... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My head hurts... This is doing no good to me. I will be online right after the deadline but then it will take ages til I get online next time. With bad luck, I will be able to be online about 8-9pm GMT and then next time a bit before 2pm the next day... so I'm afraid it might mess up some plans. And now this seer-thing is getting more complicated. I like this idea: Quote:
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My innocent list for right now, done in a hurry as I need to scurry off. I just kind of eliminated people I thought to be gifteds and went from there. I think McCaber is innocent and didn't vote because he was torn between killing a wolf and killing a gifted. Isabellkya strikes me as an innocent as well, as does Naria. Don't quote me on that though; I looked at the list of still-alive players and whittled it down, so I probably have two people from the same day or something, but meh. It'll do for now. Right now I'm up for whatever is in the best interest of the group. I'll be of more actual planning skills tomorrow Night after my class ends because I'll have ample time to think and post. Until then my lovely wolvies, ~~Sally~~ p.s. I won't be around til 4hrs after the Day starts, just an fyi. Then tonight I have church but I'll be sure to post in between the two in case you need me.
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From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 11:10 Title : Hmmm... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My head hurts... This is doing no good to me. I will be online right after the deadline but then it will take ages til I get online next time. With bad luck, I will be able to be online about 8-9pm GMT and then next time a bit before 2pm the next day... so I'm afraid it might mess up some plans. And now this seer-thing is getting more complicated. I like this idea: Quote:
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So here's my list of suggestions for toMorrow: -Aganzir, try to make a case against Valier if you can...especially if I do one and mine doesn't look like a strong one -Lommy, do as you said and act seerish particularly towards Valier -If you need to or we advice it, reveal yourself as a seer, Lommy -Valier, if (either toMorrow or Day 2) Lommy, reveals herself as the seer and exposes you as possibly evil, reveal yourself as a seer to....but ONLY if you look threatened to be lynched or a second real seer reveals. (Btw, I agree you should "dream" of Menel toNight) -Aganzir, Sally, and me need to help sway things, but without drawing attention to ourselves. I agree we should try to avoid wavering too much...at least when we're talking about each other. If both Lommy and Valier reveal, we need to disbelieve one of them. It doesn't matter who- we don't have to hop on the same bandwagon...as long as we don't waver too much and strongly pursue one of them. I don't think the innocents would expect us to actually want to lynch a wolf, so we should really should just attack each other (not all at once though) instead of feeling neutral. Bold, is the key word here. Quote:
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It just sometimes seems that way because of the growing number in Lommy's clan. You see, apparently Nogrod, Volo, Aganzir, and Greenie are evidence of how persuasive Lommy can be. Beware. -Brinn (P.S. Just got 3 new PMs as I wrote this. Geez, I'm reaching my quota fast... ) ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 13:34 Title : Good luck! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alright everyone, I think we've done everything we can do right now. We have ideas and possible scenarios, and all we can do is wing it from there. I love our crazy plans and I think if we play this well, we have just as a fair shot of winning as the innocents do. And even if we do lose, at least we can manage to mess with their heads. I had lots of fun plotting toNight. In the last few games I was a wolf, I've had problems with having my mates get killed on the first Days and other communication issues. I'm glad to see that's not the case so far...everyone here is quite vocal and even if one of us dies early on, there'll still be four left. Anyways, I just wanted to wish everyone good luck for toMorrow. We should be able to totally play these innocents. And just a reminder: While there is a good chance I may bring my laptop to Belgium with me, I'll be limited to posting during the later hours. This means I probably can only post during the beginning of Night 2 and Day 2...though hopefully I should be back for the beginning and end of Night 3. Most likely, I'll be voting early on toMorrow since I don't know if I'll be back for the deadline (don't know if it'll be for a wolf or innocent...we'll see what happens). I'll post something on the admin thread, once I know whether or not I'm taking my laptop for sure... Okay, hope to talk to everyone again tomorrow Night! -Brinn ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-23 13:54 Title : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck to you all as well! And just to be clear, there will be no coded messages in my first post, so even if I manage to mess all up and make it sound like that, it is not so. ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 14:03 Title : !!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm laughing hysterically. If there's no other guardian, they can't kill me before Day3!!!!!!!!!! Hey, we might actually win. ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-24 14:39 Title : ladies -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMG I missed the whole day!!! Hope everything went ok and I didn't mess up any of our plans. I will have to read the thread to see what's up, can one of you ladies fill me in as to what happened? Did we carry out any of our plans? did anything work? what all happened? Also what are our plans for tomorrow and who shall we kill tonight? Oh yes while I remember I made a list of the gifteds (who I think) I think Legate was a gifted McCaber is 100% a gifted. I know Naria and she is not gifted. she is 110% an Ordo I think Ka could be Nog is of course a gifted Kath I am sure is the gifted I think Groin may have been gifted and I think Isabel is a Seer This may change as I get more info and read the thread ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-24 14:46 Title : !!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMG ladies!!! I was the random choice of villager to get the pm telling me that Nogrod was indeed the Guardian. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS!!!! since we were fortunate enough to get this info and not an ordo or gifted. Lommy you can use this to help you tomorrow no? I've started reading and Lommy if you said you received the pm revealing the lynch, no one could dispute you. If they do we know they are lying since I was the one who got it.....does this make sense? Sorry I got excited when I read it!!! Volo thinks we are going to win!! LOL I am sure we can use this for wicked purposes. what say all of you? Ok I'm going back to read....I'll be around ================================================== ============================== From : Valier To : Aganzir, Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-24 15:10 Title : whoah -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok I got ahead of myself....didn't read everything. I guess my knowing that Nog was indeed a Guardian doesn't help us, since we know he was because of Rikae dying. I'm not sure if we can use this. I was thinking....do you think I should come out tommorow as the Ranger? LOL just burn menel's butt!! I've got so many things running through my mind at the moment I think I'll sit and chew on it for a bit. Hope to hear from you all. I am sure we can win this!! Oh and I say that we should kill either Isabel, McCaber or Kath. I think kath and Is are the seers and I am SURE MCaber is a gifted, what? I'm not sure. P.S Lommy I say your codes in your one post...I laughed!! Footbagging and watching the stars?LOL Not sure if anyone else answered direct like or added codes but this will be hilarious to tell when the game is over!!! LOL!!! GO FEMME FATALES!!!!! I am sure they are gifted. I think ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 19:11 Title : Re: !!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
*squeals in delight* Okay I havent' actually gotten to read the thread yet but I phoned one of my friends on the way back to campus (ah I love lurkers) and she told me the tremendous news. So we says to ourselves, "If one of us wolfiekinses gets the Noggie pm, wouldn't that be hysterical?" And WOW!!!!!!! This is like, molten awesome! Okay I need to go read the thread and see what transpired. I'm sure there's much kudos due to you all for your lovely skillehz after I'd left for the day. Okay I really need to go read the thread now. Expect another PM soon! and again....WOW! This is beyond coolness! P.S. Lommie's inbox is full just as an FYI in case you haven't tried to send her something already. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 19:21 Title : Re: whoah -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
*giggles, snorts, and eventually laughs herself into a tizzy* Okay, first of all, I forgot about Rikae being Noggie's guardian pick, so that indeed kind of negates Val's PM. But still, that means there's hope of the rest of us maybe getting access to a seer's role or something of the sort. By the way, what the heck is up with Rikae being the pick anyway? (yeah I obviously still haven't read the thread. I'm a Foat, what can I say?) NOt that I'm complaining, because I expected to come back from work this evening and find Lommie dead, one way or another. But no! We all live! Huzzah! Who to pick tonight by the way? I'll have to compile my own little who's-who list in a bit, but I'm so in awe of the turnout of today's events I'm just not in the mind to concentrate on tonight's activities right at this point. *is stoked* ================================================== ============================== From : Brinniel To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Valier Date : 2008-01-24 19:32 Title : Omg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was so shocked when Noggie actually hunted Rikae. I can see why he did it...to leave one known wolf to lynch and take down another. But lucky for us, Rikae was not a wolf. It wouldn't be exactly fair if there were two guardians since it's a pretty powerful position. So I hopeNoggie was the only one. Are you planning to choose to be protected Day 3, Lommy? If you were, you could really mess with people's heads. No one would know when your lying or telling the truth. Everyone will know you're guilty, but they wouldn't be able to lynch you. Even better, if you could somehow make the deciding vote, then you'd be protected again (though that may be difficult to do). Another idea: If you are worried about a guardian, you could protect yourself for toNight. Most people will expect you to protect yourself during the Day, so they might not even try to lynch you. I don't really have much more advice for Lommy, except really try to mess with these people in whatever way you can. Mix up the truth and the lies so that they don't know what to think. Valier- Whatever you do I would suggest NOT revealing as a gifted, but to remain ordinary looking. While you may look suspicious, a lot of people aren't too sure Menel is telling the truth...so he might eventually end up getting lynched. If Menel was lynched and revealed and people believed it, you will head down the same road Lommy is about to. Otherwise, even if Menel died, some people may think the wolf is Legate. (I would actually suggest believing Menel and calling out Legate as a dead wolf...that would look more innocentish) As for the rest of us, I think I'm the only one who did gather any real suspicion yesterDay (wow). Hopefully I can stay under-the-radar since I won't be able to get online much toMorrow anyway (I worry people might look at me more with Noggie's innocence...hopefully not). Anyways since we're already sort of suspicious, I still think the best way for at least one of us to survive is to viciously attack each other. It'll be wild and fun...we might get one of us killed, but surely at least one (or two) of us would survive looking rather innocent. This is an outrageous game...so we can only play outrageously. So I say we do what they won't expect and actually try to lynch each other. And if some innocent gets killed in the middle of it...all the better. 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Are the codes decided last night still valid? So if Valier says everyone's going crazy we start a bandwagon against her and if any of us wants to start the bandwagon against her she just refers to her own horoscope? Are there any other things we should have a chance to speak about? ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 12:29 Title : Re: Buenas Noches, mis amigas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Speaking of lovers, if we can find them today and lynch one of them, we win at the end of the Day. Probably won't have that kind of luck though. Rikae cobbler seems indeed very possible. Either way, it saved us a death in the pack and so I'm happy she was Noggie's pick. I'm all for picking Zali. I'd really like to not kill Kath, not only because it would make me look bad, but because I think she trusts me, at least a smidge. At the same time though, she could be a seer who is playing it safe until she's figured out for certain that I'm wolfie. Okay I need to send this real quick. My inbox is full, so I'm cleaning it out as soon as I send this message. I have to leave in about 15 minutes or less, so you ladies sending in the kill can pick whoever you choose and I should be pretty happy with it. ================================================== ============================== From : satansaloser2005 To : Aganzir, Brinniel, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 12:37 Title : Re: I'm here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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Haha. Very snazzy. Okay I like it indeed, so if one of us needs to communicate during the day, we can do it like that. Sorry kind of rushed right now, but wanted to reply to Agan's PM real quick before I left. I'll check my messages before I leave but if there's any response at all it'll basically be "yeah-huh, nuh-uh" etc. And remember my lovely wolfiekinses, it's possible for us to win toDay and do so with no wolf casualties. If at all possible, let's strive for that. P.S. If anyone thinks my Noggie-Rikae lover plot is valid, we can definitely use the fact that Val got the PM about him to our advantage. Okay, I'm out! Back around four hours into the Day. ~~Sally~~ ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : satansaloser2005 Date : 2008-01-25 12:38 Title : Lovers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
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I think saying that there are lovers was a joke from Volo's part - that's his sense of humour. In his last game there were secret lovers, one of whom being a secret cobbler... Lommy knows more about that. The problem is that Rikae was so vocally for lynching Nog, which she wouldn't have done if it had meant her death also. But that was just a wonderful idea anyway. I don't know if Lommy should suggest that when she comes with Nog's role? If any of us said it, it would probably draw some negative attention to us. Quote:
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================================================== ============================== From : Aganzir To : Brinniel, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien, Valier Date : 2008-01-25 12:55 Title : Kill -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I sent Naria's name to Volo. Since you three from the other side of the pond weren't around and Lommy was suspiciously quiet, I called her and we decided Naria would be the best choice. She's probably not a gifted, but now we can hopefully get Cab into a bad situation... ================================================== ============================== From : Aganzir To : satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-25 13:54 Title : Some final words -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck, darlings. Let's hope we all will be rejoined in the evening, with a table lain and a fresh and sweet dinner prepared for us. Lommy, are you protected tonight or tomorrow? Brinn and Val have their inboxes full... Lommy, is there any way you could deliver this message to them? Or at least tell them when you're protected? ================================================== ============================== From : Thinlómien To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005 Date : 2008-01-25 13:56 Title : Re: Some final words -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
================================================== ============================== From : Volo To : Aganzir, satansaloser2005, Thinlómien Date : 2008-01-25 14:00 Title : Re: Tappo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You killed Naria, who was just a quiet Ordo and simply Innocent. EDIT: Brinn and Valier have their boxes full.
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